How common is a math or reading MAP score at the 99th percentile in this area?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP,

At grade level MAP 99th percentile is really easy. It is based nation wide sample. This area is known to have many high achievers

I got my DC MAP-M score from 3rd Grade (fall) of 244 to 5th Grade of 295 --- not gifted at all


I don't think you can take MAP out of grade level, but maybe I am misunderstanding. Are you talking about comparing the RIT score with RIT scores in higher grade levels?

295 is extremely high for for fifth grade. What makes you say 'not gifted?'


Yeah, 295 is way high. like unheard of high. Maybe the top 8th grade magnet students at TPMS are getting that. 250s is very high for 5th grade, 260s super high.


Again
295 was from a 5th grade (2016 spring) of non-CES MCPS school. Again, it does not have to be gifted/talented but it needs a self-driven and highly motivated kid to spend spare time on Khan Academy to learn above grade math.
and Again, MAP-M test has not limit on grade -- if you got 295 last time, next time you would likely be challenged with high school math like trigonometry.
Anonymous


I posted this image to prove nobody lie about map score -- it is for parents discussion share information. the point is MAP-M score has really nothing to do with "gifted/talented" but it needs a great focus and self-driven to learn math beyond grade level
Anonymous
My child consistently scores 99th percentile on both map r and m testing. However, he was not accepted at an HGC or the TPMS magnet. So my guess is that there are many students who test at those scores. On a related note, I always tested at 99th percentile on the annual standardized testing, and I was a good but not outstanding student. I think standardized tests are pretty worthless- hard work means so much more (I did not learn that until grad school, sadly!).
Anonymous
It's really not as common as you may think by reading this thread. Self-reporting bias here!

Neither of my elementary kids (both excellent students) have consistent MAP-M/MAP-R of 99%.
Anonymous
I'd go with the county's graphs over anecdotes from this thread as an authoritative source.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP,

At grade level MAP 99th percentile is really easy. It is based nation wide sample. This area is known to have many high achievers

I got my DC MAP-M score from 3rd Grade (fall) of 244 to 5th Grade of 295 --- not gifted at all


I don't think you can take MAP out of grade level, but maybe I am misunderstanding. Are you talking about comparing the RIT score with RIT scores in higher grade levels?

295 is extremely high for for fifth grade. What makes you say 'not gifted?'


Yeah, 295 is way high. like unheard of high. Maybe the top 8th grade magnet students at TPMS are getting that. 250s is very high for 5th grade, 260s super high.


Again
295 was from a 5th grade (2016 spring) of non-CES MCPS school. Again, it does not have to be gifted/talented but it needs a self-driven and highly motivated kid to spend spare time on Khan Academy to learn above grade math.
and Again, MAP-M test has not limit on grade -- if you got 295 last time, next time you would likely be challenged with high school math like trigonometry.


WRONG - Fifth grade MAP does not include high school math. Read https://community.nwea.org/docs/DOC-2841

If the fifth grader takes MAP 6+ instead of fifth grade MAP, the test will include higher level topics. I do not know if MCPS allows MAP 6+ to be used for students in grade 5 or below.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Any teachers on here who can weigh in on how often they see 99th%?


I teach in Bethesda and see a lot of 99th percentile students. Probably 4-5 out of each class of 25-28.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP,

At grade level MAP 99th percentile is really easy. It is based nation wide sample. This area is known to have many high achievers

I got my DC MAP-M score from 3rd Grade (fall) of 244 to 5th Grade of 295 --- not gifted at all


I don't think you can take MAP out of grade level, but maybe I am misunderstanding. Are you talking about comparing the RIT score with RIT scores in higher grade levels?

295 is extremely high for for fifth grade. What makes you say 'not gifted?'


Yeah, 295 is way high. like unheard of high. Maybe the top 8th grade magnet students at TPMS are getting that. 250s is very high for 5th grade, 260s super high.


Again
295 was from a 5th grade (2016 spring) of non-CES MCPS school. Again, it does not have to be gifted/talented but it needs a self-driven and highly motivated kid to spend spare time on Khan Academy to learn above grade math.
and Again, MAP-M test has not limit on grade -- if you got 295 last time, next time you would likely be challenged with high school math like trigonometry.


WRONG - Fifth grade MAP does not include high school math. Read https://community.nwea.org/docs/DOC-2841

If the fifth grader takes MAP 6+ instead of fifth grade MAP, the test will include higher level topics. I do not know if MCPS allows MAP 6+ to be used for students in grade 5 or below.

Don't you know MCPS has compacted math -- 5th grader learns 5/6 grade math ?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP,

At grade level MAP 99th percentile is really easy. It is based nation wide sample. This area is known to have many high achievers

I got my DC MAP-M score from 3rd Grade (fall) of 244 to 5th Grade of 295 --- not gifted at all


I don't think you can take MAP out of grade level, but maybe I am misunderstanding. Are you talking about comparing the RIT score with RIT scores in higher grade levels?

295 is extremely high for for fifth grade. What makes you say 'not gifted?'


Yeah, 295 is way high. like unheard of high. Maybe the top 8th grade magnet students at TPMS are getting that. 250s is very high for 5th grade, 260s super high.


Again
295 was from a 5th grade (2016 spring) of non-CES MCPS school. Again, it does not have to be gifted/talented but it needs a self-driven and highly motivated kid to spend spare time on Khan Academy to learn above grade math.
and Again, MAP-M test has not limit on grade -- if you got 295 last time, next time you would likely be challenged with high school math like trigonometry.


WRONG - Fifth grade MAP does not include high school math. Read https://community.nwea.org/docs/DOC-2841

If the fifth grader takes MAP 6+ instead of fifth grade MAP, the test will include higher level topics. I do not know if MCPS allows MAP 6+ to be used for students in grade 5 or below.

Don't you know MCPS has compacted math -- 5th grader learns 5/6 grade math ?


NP here: doesn't matter-- compacted math kids still take fifth grade version. I asked to confirm as I thought the same thing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_3_LeMoDWsNy7sU0ZX4VE1XHcKl8NipF/view


Where is this kind of graph available? In the MAP report I see (the one that gets sent home or posted in the portal) I do not see this graph.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_3_LeMoDWsNy7sU0ZX4VE1XHcKl8NipF/view


Where is this kind of graph available? In the MAP report I see (the one that gets sent home or posted in the portal) I do not see this graph.


got from an MPCS elementary school principal in a letter after graduation

see attached letter

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YdCb_JuVWxlZ03E1ZPVK4MRxQnPdof1Q/view
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_3_LeMoDWsNy7sU0ZX4VE1XHcKl8NipF/view


Where is this kind of graph available? In the MAP report I see (the one that gets sent home or posted in the portal) I do not see this graph.


got from an MPCS elementary school principal in a letter after graduation

see attached letter

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YdCb_JuVWxlZ03E1ZPVK4MRxQnPdof1Q/view


The letter clearly states that MAP grades 3-5 version was administered.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_3_LeMoDWsNy7sU0ZX4VE1XHcKl8NipF/view


Where is this kind of graph available? In the MAP report I see (the one that gets sent home or posted in the portal) I do not see this graph.


got from an MPCS elementary school principal in a letter after graduation

see attached letter

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YdCb_JuVWxlZ03E1ZPVK4MRxQnPdof1Q/view


The letter clearly states that MAP grades 3-5 version was administered.


Okay, I was stupid to believe MAP-M was like a weight/height scale to fit (any age/grade). I did not pay much attention my "straight-P" DC's report card until saw the principal letter with MAP results included. Anyway, I still don't believe MAP score can be an good indicator for "gifted/talented". IQ test may be more reliable.
Anonymous
My kid has been in the 99% group for MAP for a while, and got some letter identifying him as GT for next year (3rd grade)... based on a few things, including some PARCC (?) score. Which seemed not great, to me. No idea what GT means for 3rd grade, or how it's different from whatever regular differentiation they do.

Anyhow, he's an ok student, but good at tests!
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