Ed Gillespie Attack Ad

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This isn’t about you. This is about Gillespie. He supports Trump. Ergo, he is racist.

It is clear that reasoning skills are rough for you.
So - lots of Hollywood “stars” supported Hillary. She trotted them out, embraced them, loved their support. Turns out some of those stars were rapists and pedophiles. So, I guess if you supported Hillary, you support rapists and pedophiles? Or, maybe you ARE a rapist or pedophile?

Of course liberals are not pedophiles! Stop painting everyone with such a broad brush!
*5 seconds later*
EVERY SINGLE TRUMP SUPPORTER IS A RACIST. FULL STOP!

Make up your minds, liberals.

DP, your logical reasoning skills are not as sharp as you think they are because the comparison you're trying to make isn't parallel.

+1. People with poor morals giving money to X's campaign does not make X a racist (and btw they don't necessarily pay that much attention to the source of donations unless something comes to their attention, which generally happens after the fact - and terrible people donate to all politicians. They don't have secret dossiers on every campaign donor and often learn the news when the rest of the public does). People supporting the racist policies of Y, on the other hand, are racist in their actions. That's the difference.
What racist policies? I haven't seen Trump institute any racist policies. That you interpret them as racist doesn't mean they are.....it just means you're a liberal with skewed values and perspectives.

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Anonymous wrote:How can anyone really defend this ad?

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Anonymous wrote:Bottom line - the Northam camp is defending this ad.
Pretty sad, really.

Why? If Latinos truly feel threatened by a candidate & his policies then I think their voices should be heard.

It's not hard to understand why they'd feel that way:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/10/26/a-10-year-old-immigrant-was-rushed-to-the-hospital-in-an-ambulance-she-was-detained-on-the-way/

Nobody is saying their voices cannot be heard. This ad is unacceptable. It is inflammatory and blatantly false.
And, I think it will backfire on the Dems.

It is false that racists and white supremacists support Gillespie? Really?

Racists and white supremacists support Gillespie. Therefore, everyone who supports Gillespie is a racist or a white supremacist. Right? That's how I learned it in school.

No, but if you don't want to be called a racist and a white supremacist you have to stop taking support from racist and white supremacist. This "wink, wink, nod, nod" crap is getting a little old.

I'm not a politician, so I don't take support from anyone. As a citizen, however, I'm not going to align myself with Democrats when I don't agree with many of their positions, and I'm sickened by their identity politics. So, I guess I'll just stay a Republican, disavow racism, live my life as a good person, and know that being a Republican, like I have been my entire adult life, does not suddenly make me a racist. And if you feel you need to, then go ahead and continue claiming that it does.

So you'll disavow Democrats because you "don't agree with many of their positions" but will stay a Republican DESPITE their racist policies and positions. Yeah, that makes a shit ton of sense. Good luck with the mental gymnastics.

It makes a lot of sense once you realize it's not despite those policies and positions but because of them.

How do you know that? If you honestly believe that all conservatives are racists, then you are delusional. If it's a fact that half of all Americans are raging racists, then we as a country are effed up. God, you must live in complete despair. I'm so sorry.

I don’t think all conservatives are racist. But everyone who still supports Trump after all that has happened most certainly is. 100%.

I do not support Trump, and I didn't say that I did. You might want to watch how freely you go around accusing everyone of being a racist. You're not doing yourself any favors.

This isn’t about you. This is about Gillespie. He supports Trump. Ergo, he is racist.

It is clear that reasoning skills are rough for you.
So - lots of Hollywood “stars” supported Hillary. She trotted them out, embraced them, loved their support. Turns out some of those stars were rapists and pedophiles. So, I guess if you supported Hillary, you support rapists and pedophiles? Or, maybe you ARE a rapist or pedophile?

+ 1 Kevin Spacey supported Hillary, and he is a apparently a pedophile. So, all of you who supported Hillary, you're all pedophiles!

No, that's not how this works. This would only work if HILLARY were the pedophile. But, you guys tried that lie and it blew up in your face.

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Anonymous wrote:This is VA. Where a car did run down and kill a woman for opposing the KKK, if you remember. Our President came out and said some members of the group that killed the young women— and a VA citizen—were “very fine people”.

Gillespie has now decided to cosy up to Trump. Who defended a racist who used a car to mow down one of our citizens. Gillespie could have come out and said he didn’t want the endorsement of someone who repeatedly failed to condemn the KKK and Heather Heyer’s killers. He chose not to. I am 100% okay with this ad. In the wake of Charlottesville, it is fair to say that racists with confederate flags are mowing down Virginia citizens. And next time the KKK rallies and there is violence, I do not want our governor to be someone who would refuse to condemn the murder of a young woman.

NPR did a segment on this ad. And it is apparently playing very well well with minorities, but also women and moderates. A lot of us want to take our state back from the “very fine people” who killed Heather Hayer. I know I do.

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If "very fine people" don't like the ad, too bad.

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Anonymous wrote:This is VA. Where a car did run down and kill a woman for opposing the KKK, if you remember. Our President came out and said some members of the group that killed the young women— and a VA citizen—were “very fine people”.

Gillespie has now decided to cosy up to Trump. Who defended a racist who used a car to mow down one of our citizens. Gillespie could have come out and said he didn’t want the endorsement of someone who repeatedly failed to condemn the KKK and Heather Heyer’s killers. He chose not to. I am 100% okay with this ad. In the wake of Charlottesville, it is fair to say that racists with confederate flags are mowing down Virginia citizens. And next time the KKK rallies and there is violence, I do not want our governor to be someone who would refuse to condemn the murder of a young woman.

NPR did a segment on this ad. And it is apparently playing very well well with minorities, but also women and moderates. A lot of us want to take our state back from the “very fine people” who killed Heather Hayer. I know I do.

You do realize those people (Neo Nazis, etc.) were not even from VA, right?

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Anonymous wrote:I thought this was a pro-Gillespie ad that would appeal to his base.

When liberals (above example) make these types of comments, I get concerned. I hate the fact that Gillespie may lose, and we will have in charge Democrats who despise half their constituents.

THIS.

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Anonymous wrote:Based on people I know personally, the more strenuously someone objects to the deplorable label, the more overtly racist they are.

Based on people I know personally - and here on DCUM - the more recklessly someone throws around the word "racist," the more hypocritical and sanctimonious they are.

In my kids' elementary and middle schools, they have had to ban the word "racist" as it has become such a constant accusation, exclaimed in any and every situation, most of which have nothing to do with racism. The word has become meaningless and honestly, a joke, because of its misuse and overuse.

Wait a second. They do not let children in an ES and an MS say the word racist? Seriously? Where do you live, in Alabama? Not to mention that that is likely illegal.

Okay, I exaggerated when I said it was banned. The teachers in my kids' classes, last year and now again this year, have had to tell kids to stop shouting our "RACIST!" all the time as it had become obnoxious and out of control.

Maybe try sticking to the truth. People will be a lot less likely to go

This is good advice and I'll take it. Similarly, if liberals would stop calling every conservative a racist, people would be a lot less likely to Half of all Americans (give or take) are not racists.

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You'd think by now liberals would have learned their lesson, but apparently not.

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Anonymous wrote:This is VA. Where a car did run down and kill a woman for opposing the KKK, if you remember. Our President came out and said some members of the group that killed the young women— and a VA citizen—were “very fine people”.

Gillespie has now decided to cosy up to Trump. Who defended a racist who used a car to mow down one of our citizens. Gillespie could have come out and said he didn’t want the endorsement of someone who repeatedly failed to condemn the KKK and Heather Heyer’s killers. He chose not to. I am 100% okay with this ad. In the wake of Charlottesville, it is fair to say that racists with confederate flags are mowing down Virginia citizens. And next time the KKK rallies and there is violence, I do not want our governor to be someone who would refuse to condemn the murder of a young woman.

NPR did a segment on this ad. And it is apparently playing very well well with minorities, but also women and moderates. A lot of us want to take our state back from the “very fine people” who killed Heather Hayer. I know I do.

I thought the alleged perpetrator was from out of state.

He was, as were almost all of the white supremacists. They pick a town and converge on it. Charlottesville had nothing to do with this, as much as some posters want to paint it otherwise.

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Anonymous wrote:Bottom line - the Northam camp is defending this ad.
Pretty sad, really.

Why? If Latinos truly feel threatened by a candidate & his policies then I think their voices should be heard.

It's not hard to understand why they'd feel that way:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/10/26/a-10-year-old-immigrant-was-rushed-to-the-hospital-in-an-ambulance-she-was-detained-on-the-way/

Nobody is saying their voices cannot be heard. This ad is unacceptable. It is inflammatory and blatantly false.
And, I think it will backfire on the Dems.

It is false that racists and white supremacists support Gillespie? Really?

Racists and white supremacists support Gillespie. Therefore, everyone who supports Gillespie is a racist or a white supremacist. Right? That's how I learned it in school.

No, but if you don't want to be called a racist and a white supremacist you have to stop taking support from racist and white supremacist. This "wink, wink, nod, nod" crap is getting a little old.

I'm not a politician, so I don't take support from anyone. As a citizen, however, I'm not going to align myself with Democrats when I don't agree with many of their positions, and I'm sickened by their identity politics. So, I guess I'll just stay a Republican, disavow racism, live my life as a good person, and know that being a Republican, like I have been my entire adult life, does not suddenly make me a racist. And if you feel you need to, then go ahead and continue claiming that it does.

So you'll disavow Democrats because you "don't agree with many of their positions" but will stay a Republican DESPITE their racist policies and positions. Yeah, that makes a shit ton of sense. Good luck with the mental gymnastics.

It makes a lot of sense once you realize it's not despite those policies and positions but because of them.

How do you know that? If you honestly believe that all conservatives are racists, then you are delusional. If it's a fact that half of all Americans are raging racists, then we as a country are effed up. God, you must live in complete despair. I'm so sorry.

I don’t think all conservatives are racist. But everyone who still supports Trump after all that has happened most certainly is. 100%.

I do not support Trump, and I didn't say that I did. You might want to watch how freely you go around accusing everyone of being a racist. You're not doing yourself any favors.

This isn’t about you. This is about Gillespie. He supports Trump. Ergo, he is racist.

It is clear that reasoning skills are rough for you.
So - lots of Hollywood “stars” supported Hillary. She trotted them out, embraced them, loved their support. Turns out some of those stars were rapists and pedophiles. So, I guess if you supported Hillary, you support rapists and pedophiles? Or, maybe you ARE a rapist or pedophile?

Of course liberals are not pedophiles! Stop painting everyone with such a broad brush!
*5 seconds later*
EVERY SINGLE TRUMP SUPPORTER IS A RACIST. FULL STOP!

Make up your minds, liberals.

Great analogy, PPs. It'll be interesting to hear how they'll try and spin that one. "But, but...!!"

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This isn’t about you. This is about Gillespie. He supports Trump. Ergo, he is racist.

It is clear that reasoning skills are rough for you.
So - lots of Hollywood “stars” supported Hillary. She trotted them out, embraced them, loved their support. Turns out some of those stars were rapists and pedophiles. So, I guess if you supported Hillary, you support rapists and pedophiles? Or, maybe you ARE a rapist or pedophile?

Of course liberals are not pedophiles! Stop painting everyone with such a broad brush!
*5 seconds later*
EVERY SINGLE TRUMP SUPPORTER IS A RACIST. FULL STOP!

Make up your minds, liberals.

DP, your logical reasoning skills are not as sharp as you think they are because the comparison you're trying to make isn't parallel.

+1. People with poor morals giving money to X's campaign does not make X a racist (and btw they don't necessarily pay that much attention to the source of donations unless something comes to their attention, which generally happens after the fact - and terrible people donate to all politicians. They don't have secret dossiers on every campaign donor and often learn the news when the rest of the public does). People supporting the racist policies of Y, on the other hand, are racist in their actions. That's the difference.

And there it is! Predictable spin, at its finest. Too funny. The parallels were accurate, you simply don't want to acknowledge it. How does it feel?

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Anonymous wrote:Bottom line - the Northam camp is defending this ad.
Pretty sad, really.

Why? If Latinos truly feel threatened by a candidate & his policies then I think their voices should be heard.

It's not hard to understand why they'd feel that way:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/10/26/a-10-year-old-immigrant-was-rushed-to-the-hospital-in-an-ambulance-she-was-detained-on-the-way/

Nobody is saying their voices cannot be heard. This ad is unacceptable. It is inflammatory and blatantly false.
And, I think it will backfire on the Dems.

It is false that racists and white supremacists support Gillespie? Really?

Racists and white supremacists support Gillespie. Therefore, everyone who supports Gillespie is a racist or a white supremacist. Right? That's how I learned it in school.

No, but if you don't want to be called a racist and a white supremacist you have to stop taking support from racist and white supremacist. This "wink, wink, nod, nod" crap is getting a little old.

I'm not a politician, so I don't take support from anyone. As a citizen, however, I'm not going to align myself with Democrats when I don't agree with many of their positions, and I'm sickened by their identity politics. So, I guess I'll just stay a Republican, disavow racism, live my life as a good person, and know that being a Republican, like I have been my entire adult life, does not suddenly make me a racist. And if you feel you need to, then go ahead and continue claiming that it does.

So you'll disavow Democrats because you "don't agree with many of their positions" but will stay a Republican DESPITE their racist policies and positions. Yeah, that makes a shit ton of sense. Good luck with the mental gymnastics.

It makes a lot of sense once you realize it's not despite those policies and positions but because of them.

How do you know that? If you honestly believe that all conservatives are racists, then you are delusional. If it's a fact that half of all Americans are raging racists, then we as a country are effed up. God, you must live in complete despair. I'm so sorry.

I don’t think all conservatives are racist. But everyone who still supports Trump after all that has happened most certainly is. 100%.

I do not support Trump, and I didn't say that I did. You might want to watch how freely you go around accusing everyone of being a racist. You're not doing yourself any favors.

This isn’t about you. This is about Gillespie. He supports Trump. Ergo, he is racist.

It is clear that reasoning skills are rough for you.
So - lots of Hollywood “stars” supported Hillary. She trotted them out, embraced them, loved their support. Turns out some of those stars were rapists and pedophiles. So, I guess if you supported Hillary, you support rapists and pedophiles? Or, maybe you ARE a rapist or pedophile?

+ 1 Kevin Spacey supported Hillary, and he is a apparently a pedophile. So, all of you who supported Hillary, you're all pedophiles!

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Harvey Weinstein supported Hillary (and she sang his praises). Harvey Weinstein is a rapist and a sexual predator. So all you Hillary supporters are also rapists and sexual predators! Hey, this is fun!

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These threads - the entire Political Forum, in fact - only solidify my decision to never vote for a Democrat again. What a bunch of sanctimonious hypocrites. No thank you.

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A white man driving a pick-up in NYC just proved the ad was a completely correct stereotype.

White man? Check.

Pick up truck? Check.

Running over people of color and Jews? Check.




So it seems like the ad was pretty accurate after all.

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Anonymous wrote:A white man driving a pick-up in NYC just proved the ad was a completely correct stereotype.

White man? Check.

Pick up truck? Check.

Running over people of color and Jews? Check.




So it seems like the ad was pretty accurate after all.

Oh my...now this thread has, as they used to say, truly jumped the shark.

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Anonymous wrote:These threads - the entire Political Forum, in fact - only solidify my decision to never vote for a Democrat again. What a bunch of sanctimonious hypocrites. No thank you.

That's nice.

ps - no one GAF.