Liberals: How can you, in good conscience, support illegal immigrants?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do not support illegal immigration or illegal aliens. That said, I believe that the issue with E-verify is that there are problems with the database to the extent that it includes legal residents and citizens. I don't know the details, but I believe that this is the argument against its use.

no that is not the reason democrats are against eVerify. it works very well.

it is political games played by democrats

Instead of backing down in the face of a budget impasse (as the GOP leadership is prone to do), Republican leaders must force their political opponents to explain to the American people why they are willing to hold both the federal budget and job security for American workers hostage to amnesty for illegal aliens. This is particularly true in the Senate, where 60 votes are needed to break a filibuster. While Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) might not pay a political price for holding E-Verify and DHS’s budget hostage to rewards for illegal aliens, he has a slew of vulnerable senators in his caucus who are facing reelection next year in red or purple states. In particular, those vulnerable Democrats should be forced to explain to their constituents why they are standing in the way of protecting the jobs of American workers.

Exactly.

[Anonymous]

There is no good conscience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If Republicans really wanted to stop illegal immigration they would increase the penalties for hiring them and aggressively prosecute employers.

They do not.

So this is all smoke and mirrors, Trump fans. They are riling you up to get your votes. At the same time they laughing at you on their way to the bank to deposit the extra income they earn because of the lower wages they pay.

What do the Trump fans think of this?

I think that plenty of big government arms are getting rich off illegal immigration. Why do you think they hate Conservatives so much?

[Anonymous]

As a Christian, Jesus taught us to welcome foreigners.

I'm not for illegal immigration, but neither am I for demonizing al of them.

[Anonymous]

Most Americans don’t want illegals here. Both mainstream parties do - for different interests.

You don’t live in a democracy people! Your congress doesn’t respond to you. It responds to special interests.

Revolution time coming.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My spouse recently returned from France. Said there were masses of immigrants and police state presence. My spouse looks N African and was moved along a couple of time. When he spoke he was immediately allowed to continue his business there, but clearly they are keeping a close eye on Moroccans etc. Given events in the past five years cannot fault them for that. What a way to live. Pity them all - how do they go forward there? We need thoughtful immigration reform and to not encourage illegal immigration, which is what amnesty does.

Your DH got profiled. That's more sad, IMO and probably how a lot of Hispanic Americans feel about being tagged as a potential illegal immigrants while driving/walking to work, minding his own business. If your DH looks Middle Eastern he may even be profiled here as a potential terrorist by some ignoramous in the US. Isn't that sad?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I do not support illegal immigration or illegal aliens. That said, I believe that the issue with E-verify is that there are problems with the database to the extent that it includes legal residents and citizens. I don't know the details, but I believe that this is the argument against its use.

Tea Party was against E-verify because the paperwork was too "onerous", and they were concered with Americans' civil rights.

[Anonymous]

Most liberals I know don't support illegal immigration. They just feel sympathy for them. I'm going to assume most Rs don't support white nationalists and their policies or Roy Moore, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most liberals I know don't support illegal immigration. They just feel sympathy for them. I'm going to assume most Rs don't support white nationalists and their policies or Roy Moore, right?

Of course they don't support white nationalists. And we don't sympathize with them either.

But your sympathy of illegal aliens has led to sanctuary cities and failing public schools, even though it hurts Americans. To me, that's support.

[Anonymous]

How can Republicans continue to fail in their duty to enforce fair labor by cracking down on employers?

Why have you allowed the break-up of unions that have always

1) set the skills standards for hiring,
2) maintained the job pipeline for American workers through vocational training.
3) ensured occupational safety,
4) negotiated fair wages and workplace standards

??

Republicans have been setting up the current state of affairs for the American worker for nearly four decades, ever since their lord and savior Ronald Reagan showed them how in the 80s.

Now that the jig is up, it's especially important that the ripped off American worker falls for the jedi mind trick. American employers need to keep their slave labor, which means they need to keep immigration illegal and the American worker can just suck it.

That's all on Republicans.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How can Republicans continue to fail in their duty to enforce fair labor by cracking down on employers?

Why have you allowed the break-up of unions that have always

1) set the skills standards for hiring,
2) maintained the job pipeline for American workers through vocational training.
3) ensured occupational safety,
4) negotiated fair wages and workplace standards

??

Republicans have been setting up the current state of affairs for the American worker for nearly four decades, ever since their lord and savior Ronald Reagan showed them how in the 80s.

Now that the jig is up, it's especially important that the ripped off American worker falls for the jedi mind trick. American employers need to keep their slave labor, which means they need to keep immigration illegal and the American worker can just suck it.

That's all on Republicans.

Some posters on here still haven’t figured it out, the GOP is about making rich people money. All the cultural issues like “build the wall”are to get the necssary votes to make rich people money. Immigration both legal and illegal helps rich people make money. There will be no crackdown on employers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How can Republicans continue to fail in their duty to enforce fair labor by cracking down on employers?

Why have you allowed the break-up of unions that have always

1) set the skills standards for hiring,
2) maintained the job pipeline for American workers through vocational training.
3) ensured occupational safety,
4) negotiated fair wages and workplace standards

??

Republicans have been setting up the current state of affairs for the American worker for nearly four decades, ever since their lord and savior Ronald Reagan showed them how in the 80s.

Now that the jig is up, it's especially important that the ripped off American worker falls for the jedi mind trick. American employers need to keep their slave labor, which means they need to keep immigration illegal and the American worker can just suck it.

That's all on Republicans.

Some posters on here still haven’t figured it out, the GOP is about making rich people money. All the cultural issues like “build the wall”are to get the necssary votes to make rich people money. Immigration both legal and illegal helps rich people make money. There will be no crackdown on employers.

A LOT of people haven’t figured it out. That’s what the GOP is counting on. And that’s what’s behind all the racism and xenophobia. They figured out how to make their weakest selling point - help for the American worker - their greatest electoral strength.

Donald Trump started his campaign with the message that the whole world, and especially their own country, is against the uneducated white American male. This is the primary recruiting tactic for ISIS. He’s been beating that drum ever since because it works so well.

If dumb white Americans ever get a clue, the Republicans are toast. But we can see that won’t happen. Instead, they’ll grab their pitchforks and tiki torches and eagerly march right off a cliff.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How can Republicans continue to fail in their duty to enforce fair labor by cracking down on employers?

Why have you allowed the break-up of unions that have always

1) set the skills standards for hiring,
2) maintained the job pipeline for American workers through vocational training.
3) ensured occupational safety,
4) negotiated fair wages and workplace standards

??

Republicans have been setting up the current state of affairs for the American worker for nearly four decades, ever since their lord and savior Ronald Reagan showed them how in the 80s.

Now that the jig is up, it's especially important that the ripped off American worker falls for the jedi mind trick. American employers need to keep their slave labor, which means they need to keep immigration illegal and the American worker can just suck it.

That's all on Republicans.

Some posters on here still haven’t figured it out, the GOP is about making rich people money. All the cultural issues like “build the wall”are to get the necssary votes to make rich people money. Immigration both legal and illegal helps rich people make money. There will be no crackdown on employers.

A LOT of people haven’t figured it out. That’s what the GOP is counting on. And that’s what’s behind all the racism and xenophobia. They figured out how to make their weakest selling point - help for the American worker - their greatest electoral strength.

Donald Trump started his campaign with the message that the whole world, and especially their own country, is against the uneducated white American male. This is the primary recruiting tactic for ISIS. He’s been beating that drum ever since because it works so well.

If dumb white Americans ever get a clue, the Republicans are toast. But we can see that won’t happen. Instead, they’ll grab their pitchforks and tiki torches and eagerly march right off a cliff.

You shouldn't be talking about xenophobia and bigotry when you make nasty cracks about "dumb whites." Dumb blacks have voted in some pretty bad people, too, like Marion Barry (on the local forum). Am I allowed to say "dumb blacks" or is only anti-white comments allowed?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How can Republicans continue to fail in their duty to enforce fair labor by cracking down on employers?

Why have you allowed the break-up of unions that have always

1) set the skills standards for hiring,
2) maintained the job pipeline for American workers through vocational training.
3) ensured occupational safety,
4) negotiated fair wages and workplace standards

??

Republicans have been setting up the current state of affairs for the American worker for nearly four decades, ever since their lord and savior Ronald Reagan showed them how in the 80s.

Now that the jig is up, it's especially important that the ripped off American worker falls for the jedi mind trick. American employers need to keep their slave labor, which means they need to keep immigration illegal and the American worker can just suck it.

That's all on Republicans.

Some posters on here still haven’t figured it out, the GOP is about making rich people money. All the cultural issues like “build the wall”are to get the necssary votes to make rich people money. Immigration both legal and illegal helps rich people make money. There will be no crackdown on employers.

A LOT of people haven’t figured it out. That’s what the GOP is counting on. And that’s what’s behind all the racism and xenophobia. They figured out how to make their weakest selling point - help for the American worker - their greatest electoral strength.

Donald Trump started his campaign with the message that the whole world, and especially their own country, is against the uneducated white American male. This is the primary recruiting tactic for ISIS. He’s been beating that drum ever since because it works so well.

If dumb white Americans ever get a clue, the Republicans are toast. But we can see that won’t happen. Instead, they’ll grab their pitchforks and tiki torches and eagerly march right off a cliff.

More college-educated men voted for Trump than Hillary, and even 45% of college-educated women voted that way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How can Republicans continue to fail in their duty to enforce fair labor by cracking down on employers?

Why have you allowed the break-up of unions that have always

1) set the skills standards for hiring,
2) maintained the job pipeline for American workers through vocational training.
3) ensured occupational safety,
4) negotiated fair wages and workplace standards

??

Republicans have been setting up the current state of affairs for the American worker for nearly four decades, ever since their lord and savior Ronald Reagan showed them how in the 80s.

Now that the jig is up, it's especially important that the ripped off American worker falls for the jedi mind trick. American employers need to keep their slave labor, which means they need to keep immigration illegal and the American worker can just suck it.

That's all on Republicans.

Some posters on here still haven’t figured it out, the GOP is about making rich people money. All the cultural issues like “build the wall”are to get the necssary votes to make rich people money. Immigration both legal and illegal helps rich people make money. There will be no crackdown on employers.

A LOT of people haven’t figured it out. That’s what the GOP is counting on. And that’s what’s behind all the racism and xenophobia. They figured out how to make their weakest selling point - help for the American worker - their greatest electoral strength.

Donald Trump started his campaign with the message that the whole world, and especially their own country, is against the uneducated white American male. This is the primary recruiting tactic for ISIS. He’s been beating that drum ever since because it works so well.

If dumb white Americans ever get a clue, the Republicans are toast. But we can see that won’t happen. Instead, they’ll grab their pitchforks and tiki torches and eagerly march right off a cliff.

More college-educated men voted for Trump than Hillary, and even 45% of college-educated women voted that way.

Look at those with post grad and professional degrees - the actual smart people. Both genders rejected Trump by large majorities.