Ohio heartbeat law

[Anonymous]

I also hope that Jill Frankenstein keeps pushing her recount effort:

Every dollar that proggys spend enriching her personal coffers (she's been upfront that not everything donated will actually go the the "recount effort") they can't spend defending Planned Parenthood.

GO JILL GO!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that Camille Paglia (of all people: a flamboyantly liberal lesbian) has long claimed liberals are dishonest in stating abortion is anything other than murder. To pretend it isn't murder belittles the murder of a fetus in the course of a crime.

Obviously abortion is murder, we're just deciding what someone gets to prioritize.

No, it's not murder. It's no more murder than a woman having her period each month, a man jerking-off, donating a kidney, or brushing your teeth.

Wait, what? Brushing your teeth. Well, brushing your teeth removes live cells inside your mouth. When you spit, you are ejecting those live, human cells into an environment in which they will cease to live eventually. Those cells each had the potential to become human life.

See how ridiculous your claim that it is murder is?

Also, murder means killing a human being. Tissue is not a human being.

[Anonymous]

Cutting your nails is murder

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Libs can stomp their feet all they want, but I'll NEVER vote for a pro-choice politician. Ever. This literally takes precedent over every other issue. A large share of the voting population of the country feels the same way. So the GOP starts off with ~30% of the vote automatically.

I'm not a liberal, but I am pro-choice. I don't get the idea of conservatives saying the government shouldn't dictate everything about how people live their lives, yet with the abortion debate, conservatives are quite happy to do just that - tell women what to do with their bodies. How does that make any sense?

Also, PP, I presume most of your anti-choice passion comes from a strong religious belief? If that's the case, ever read the reasons we have the 1st amendment and separation of church and state? Might do you some good to go research the topic a little.

This is such BS. If somebody wants to murder someone with a knife, they are using "their body" to do it. The government shouldn't make it illegal to do that just because it's "their body"? What BS. Every criminal law governs what you can do with your body.

My opposition to abortion doesn't come from religion, it comes from basic morality. Murder is wrong. An arbitrary distinction between a person located on one or another side of the brith canal doesn't change that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that Camille Paglia (of all people: a flamboyantly liberal lesbian) has long claimed liberals are dishonest in stating abortion is anything other than murder. To pretend it isn't murder belittles the murder of a fetus in the course of a crime.

Obviously abortion is murder, we're just deciding what someone gets to prioritize.

No, it's not murder. It's no more murder than a woman having her period each month, a man jerking-off, donating a kidney, or brushing your teeth.

Wait, what? Brushing your teeth. Well, brushing your teeth removes live cells inside your mouth. When you spit, you are ejecting those live, human cells into an environment in which they will cease to live eventually. Those cells each had the potential to become human life.

See how ridiculous your claim that it is murder is?

Also, murder means killing a human being. Tissue is not a human being.

How about an hour before a woman gives birth? A week? A month? When does it become murder in your mind?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Cutting your nails is murder

Sure. So is picking your nose. Thanks for proving how stupid progs are.

[Anonymous]

The PPs above sound like nazis rationalizing the killing of Jews.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that Camille Paglia (of all people: a flamboyantly liberal lesbian) has long claimed liberals are dishonest in stating abortion is anything other than murder. To pretend it isn't murder belittles the murder of a fetus in the course of a crime.

Obviously abortion is murder, we're just deciding what someone gets to prioritize.

No, it's not murder. It's no more murder than a woman having her period each month, a man jerking-off, donating a kidney, or brushing your teeth.

Wait, what? Brushing your teeth. Well, brushing your teeth removes live cells inside your mouth. When you spit, you are ejecting those live, human cells into an environment in which they will cease to live eventually. Those cells each had the potential to become human life.

See how ridiculous your claim that it is murder is?

Also, murder means killing a human being. Tissue is not a human being.

You're willfully blind, and it's why progs have no credibility. A 26 week old fetus is, in fact, viable outside the womb. It's not "tissue" and the fact that you would equate it as such indicates how far you are outside the mainstream of compassionate thought. Meet a woman who has lost her baby, and try patting her on the back and saying "good thing it's only tissue!"

You jackass.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The PPs above sound like nazis rationalizing the killing of Jews.

They were only tissue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Libs can stomp their feet all they want, but I'll NEVER vote for a pro-choice politician. Ever. This literally takes precedent over every other issue. A large share of the voting population of the country feels the same way. So the GOP starts off with ~30% of the vote automatically.

And I'll NEVER vote for an anti-choice politician. Ever. And a large share of the voting population of the country feels the same way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that Camille Paglia (of all people: a flamboyantly liberal lesbian) has long claimed liberals are dishonest in stating abortion is anything other than murder. To pretend it isn't murder belittles the murder of a fetus in the course of a crime.

Obviously abortion is murder, we're just deciding what someone gets to prioritize.

No, it's not murder. It's no more murder than a woman having her period each month, a man jerking-off, donating a kidney, or brushing your teeth.

Wait, what? Brushing your teeth. Well, brushing your teeth removes live cells inside your mouth. When you spit, you are ejecting those live, human cells into an environment in which they will cease to live eventually. Those cells each had the potential to become human life.

See how ridiculous your claim that it is murder is?

Also, murder means killing a human being. Tissue is not a human being.

How about an hour before a woman gives birth? A week? A month? When does it become murder in your mind?

Go back and read information about the concept of viability and actually become an informed citizen instead of spouting off ridiculous arguments.

I'll help you get started, "Roe vs. Wade, the 1973 case legalizing abortion, made fetal viability an important legal concept. The Supreme Court ruled that states cannot put the interests of a fetus ahead of the interests of the pregnant woman until the fetus is "viable." The court defined viable to mean capable of prolonged life outside the mother's womb. It said this included fetuses that doctors expected to be sustained by respirators. The court accepted the conventional medical wisdom that a fetus becomes viable at the start of the last third of a pregnancy, the third trimester, sometime between the 24th and 28th week (a pregnancy usually lasts 38 weeks). Because the point of viability varies, the court ruled, it could only be determined case by case and by the woman's own doctor. Even if the fetus is viable, the court said, states could not outlaw an abortion if the woman's life or health was at stake."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that Camille Paglia (of all people: a flamboyantly liberal lesbian) has long claimed liberals are dishonest in stating abortion is anything other than murder. To pretend it isn't murder belittles the murder of a fetus in the course of a crime.

Obviously abortion is murder, we're just deciding what someone gets to prioritize.

No, it's not murder. It's no more murder than a woman having her period each month, a man jerking-off, donating a kidney, or brushing your teeth.

Wait, what? Brushing your teeth. Well, brushing your teeth removes live cells inside your mouth. When you spit, you are ejecting those live, human cells into an environment in which they will cease to live eventually. Those cells each had the potential to become human life.

See how ridiculous your claim that it is murder is?

Also, murder means killing a human being. Tissue is not a human being.

How about an hour before a woman gives birth? A week? A month? When does it become murder in your mind?

Go back and read information about the concept of viability and actually become an informed citizen instead of spouting off ridiculous arguments.

I'll help you get started, "Roe vs. Wade, the 1973 case legalizing abortion, made fetal viability an important legal concept. The Supreme Court ruled that states cannot put the interests of a fetus ahead of the interests of the pregnant woman until the fetus is "viable." The court defined viable to mean capable of prolonged life outside the mother's womb. It said this included fetuses that doctors expected to be sustained by respirators. The court accepted the conventional medical wisdom that a fetus becomes viable at the start of the last third of a pregnancy, the third trimester, sometime between the 24th and 28th week (a pregnancy usually lasts 38 weeks). Because the point of viability varies, the court ruled, it could only be determined case by case and by the woman's own doctor. Even if the fetus is viable, the court said, states could not outlaw an abortion if the woman's life or health was at stake."

How about a premature baby who requires life support? Should parent be able to Murder them too?

[Anonymous]

The state has no business forcing a woman to go through 9 months of an unwanted or doomed pregnancy and then forcing her to go through labor and delivery.

Women have aborted their pregnancies since humans began roaming the world, and they're not going to stop even if the government takes away their access to safe procedures. Take a look at any country that has outlawed abortions and tell me there are no abortions there. Tell me there are no women dying or being mutilated in their desperate quest to abort an unwanted pregnancy. Tell me what a paradise it is in those countries for all the women forced to go through pregnancies they didn't want. Tell me it's a paradise for all the kids born into these circumstances.

I dare all anti-choice people to read up on Savita Halappanavar and tell me this is your idea of how a great nation treats its women. Shame on you.

[Anonymous]

Abortion is a horrible, murderous act, but it does keep the crime rate down and also reduces the number of people on welfare and food stamps. Ironically, if abortion were made illegal the democrats would get millions of additional votes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The PPs above sound like nazis rationalizing the killing of Jews.

They were only tissue.

Trying to equate the Holocaust with abortion is one of those tired, crazy anti-choice arguments. The Jews were full on persons. A fetus does not receive legal recognition until viability.