School residency cheaters investigated

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I do believe there is residency fraud. However, I believe this reporter out right lied in this article. How many people would stop and share their family situations with a stranger? Would any of you? And he states that he pulled tax records among other things to determine their lack of residency. Who gave them the names to pull? How many people would share their names with a stranger standing on the street asking questions.

You don't need a name if you have an address.

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They followed these people to their home. Once you have the address, you can pull all sorts of property and tax records from the District and MD county websites. Then once you have a name, you can cross-reference it with property in the District. They can also then look up marriage and divorce records to establish the household make-up.

My guess is that these parents didn't willingly volunteer information. More likely is that they were ambushed by these reporters with rhetorical questions - "Why do you live in MD and send your child to school in DC? Are you paying tuition to DCPS? Can you confirm that you are Joe Smith that works at the Department of Labor?" - that the reporters already knew the answers to. Using public records, you can easily figure out with 95% certainty if someone is a cheater. If these parents work for the government, they're even dumber - all their salary info is public record.

So why doesn't OSSE do this level of investigation?

The Chancellor does't give them the resources. There's a lot of solidly middle class and UMC families that would get caught up in the investigations. These people are fellow church goers and relatives of DC pols, business folks, and bureaucrats. And there is certainly a very strong element that folks who left the District but grew up here still have "rights" to their old block and former schools. Lots of messy inter-personal relationships that just make it easier to ignore the problem.

Plus, DCPS is primarily spending Federal government money. The more kids in the system, the more DCPS pulls from Congress. They have every incentive to keep headcount high.

Finally, I think there is a feeling that kids in PG County are getting shafted by the MD state government. District pols feel the need to protect those kids and families by offering them District resources.

Good Lord, you just pulled all of this crap out of your ass. First, The middle class families, and definitely the UMC families in PG send their kids to parochial and private schools. They have the money and wouldn't waste their time in DCPS, as they deem it inferior. The MC seek out tuition assistance, and the UMC simply write a check. Second, DC is spending DC dollars. DC send more to the Feds than they receive back. Third, where are you getting your data that MD is shafting PG Cty. More what in the world would make you think DC pols care?

If anyone is shafting PG, it's the sorry politicians that the PG voters have elected. Remember County Executive Jack Johnson and his wife, who was also drawing a PG government salary (on top of a DC salary) and stuffed bribe cash in her bra when the FBI showed up? The same county that spent thousands on a "Gorgeous Prince George's" campaign when it should have put money into schools and services? One of the most notoriously corrupt, pay to play jurisdictions in the US. The present county executive has done some things to clean PG it, but it's still a cesspool. To the extent that voters want to blame anyone, they should blame themselves for electing clowns like Johnson and Wayne Curry before him -- much like DC used to be seduced by pols like Marion B.arry.

And in any event, who made the taxpayers of DC the guardians of PG school children? PG at least has a state government and a broader tax base to fall back on.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The "free preschool" DC v MD fraud does not hold much water at least for L-T; the pre-school families are almost all from the Capitol Hill area, and there is little fraud there, as I know pretty much all the neighbors that go there (small school, few families).

Principal Bell is gone now, but I can see why she would not agree to go harass kids and families at drop off on the spot, in front of reporters, on the sidewalk! Just not professional, in any possible way.

agree. that the "reporter" seemed to want to force her to take some kind of action in the moment demonstrates that this was hack "reporting" like those planned parenthood guys, not real journalism.

Principal Bell was given DCPS' Marion S. Barr.y award for demonstrated integrity on the job.

[Anonymous]

I actually read this - giving a click to dumb Tucker Carlson - and it has barely more evidence than the typical DCUM post about this issue. Plus two glaring errors that even I, a Maryland resident with kids in Maryland schools - know to be false - that the Ludlow-Taylor neighborhood is "mostly white" and that DC residents get in-state tuition. I look forward to more inaccurate race acting for the rest of the series.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The school is almost entirely black and government statistics indicate that few of the students live in the neighborhood. Poor test scores have left neighborhood parents feeling they can’t use their own school, and must pay for private education or enroll their children in a more distant public school.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/04/investigation-md-residents-ripping-off-dc-schools-while-admins-refuse-to-address-it/#ixzz4DYsNU91D

Basically she is arguing that there are too many Black children at the school and the good white folks in the neighborhood won't send their kids to the neighborhood school. Therefore, clean out those blacks, so the whites who can already attend the school will be more comfortable in attending.

[/b]There you go again, playing the race card. [b] The last refuge of scoundrels. People should be very interested in cleaning out those fraudsters.

Read the article before giving your minus two cents. The reporter dealt the race card from the bottom of the deck.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I do believe there is residency fraud. However, I believe this reporter out right lied in this article. How many people would stop and share their family situations with a stranger? Would any of you? And he states that he pulled tax records among other things to determine their lack of residency. Who gave them the names to pull? How many people would share their names with a stranger standing on the street asking questions.

You don't need a name if you have an address.

+1

They followed these people to their home. Once you have the address, you can pull all sorts of property and tax records from the District and MD county websites. Then once you have a name, you can cross-reference it with property in the District. They can also then look up marriage and divorce records to establish the household make-up.

My guess is that these parents didn't willingly volunteer information. More likely is that they were ambushed by these reporters with rhetorical questions - "Why do you live in MD and send your child to school in DC? Are you paying tuition to DCPS? Can you confirm that you are Joe Smith that works at the Department of Labor?" - that the reporters already knew the answers to. Using public records, you can easily figure out with 95% certainty if someone is a cheater. If these parents work for the government, they're even dumber - all their salary info is public record.

So why doesn't OSSE do this level of investigation?

The Chancellor does't give them the resources. There's a lot of solidly middle class and UMC families that would get caught up in the investigations. These people are fellow church goers and relatives of DC pols, business folks, and bureaucrats. And there is certainly a very strong element that folks who left the District but grew up here still have "rights" to their old block and former schools. Lots of messy inter-personal relationships that just make it easier to ignore the problem.

Plus, DCPS is primarily spending Federal government money. The more kids in the system, the more DCPS pulls from Congress. They have every incentive to keep headcount high.

Finally, I think there is a feeling that kids in PG County are getting shafted by the MD state government. District pols feel the need to protect those kids and families by offering them District resources.

Good Lord, you just pulled all of this crap out of your ass. First, The middle class families, and definitely the UMC families in PG send their kids to parochial and private schools. They have the money and wouldn't waste their time in DCPS, as they deem it inferior. The MC seek out tuition assistance, and the UMC simply write a check. Second, DC is spending DC dollars. DC send more to the Feds than they receive back. Third, where are you getting your data that MD is shafting PG Cty. More what in the world would make you think DC pols care?

If anyone is shafting PG, it's the sorry politicians that the PG voters have elected. Remember County Executive Jack Johnson and his wife, who was also drawing a PG government salary (on top of a DC salary) and stuffed bribe cash in her bra when the FBI showed up? The same county that spent thousands on a "Gorgeous Prince George's" campaign when it should have put money into schools and services? One of the most notoriously corrupt, pay to play jurisdictions in the US. The present county executive has done some things to clean PG it, but it's still a cesspool. To the extent that voters want to blame anyone, they should blame themselves for electing clowns like Johnson and Wayne Curry before him -- much like DC used to be seduced by pols like Marion B.arry.

And in any event, who made the taxpayers of DC the guardians of PG school children? PG at least has a state government and a broader tax base to fall back on.

Reading comprehension failure.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am extremely skeptical about the quality and motivation of Daily Caller investigative reporting, but I have to say, it does sound like a pretty severe problem and like they did actual (appropriate) reporting. It's not "stalking". But I'm not sure about the quality of the reporting. For example, how they describe L-T as

"in a mostly white neighborhood along a commuter route that runs from Prince George’s County to federal buildings downtown.

The school is almost entirely black and government statistics indicate that few of the students live in the neighborhood. Poor test scores have left neighborhood parents feeling they can’t use their own school, and must pay for private education or enroll their children in a more distant public school."

I don't think that accurately represents the L-T demographics, the current reputation of L-T, or the legitimate OOB system. It also seems to be trying to drive a pretty ugly racial/class wedge.

What's the commuter route from MD to L-T? The neighborhood demographics of L-T is not predominantly white. What am I missing in this awful reporting. There are so many lies or misinformation, such as in-state tuition to any state school, one has to wonder what the blogger got right.

Ward 6 was of 2010, 49% white, 41% black (it was majority black in 2000). The trend continues as Home values near LT start at 500k.

If you ever came over to the Hill on a weekday morning, you would notice the large volume of MD plated cars speeding through on MD Ave., PA Ave., C & H Streets, coming from Route 50, NY Abe, Bladensberg, 295, etc.

These parts of the article are absolutely true.

The article states that the area is all white, and the Black kids are all from Maryland. So where should the 41% of the Black kids attend school. And what's stopping the 49% of white kids from attending their inbound school. The author basically stated that white folks can't send their kids to school with all those black kids. The horror.

You are perhaps unaware that there is a significant difference in demographics between all of ward 6 and the people who live IB for LT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am extremely skeptical about the quality and motivation of Daily Caller investigative reporting, but I have to say, it does sound like a pretty severe problem and like they did actual (appropriate) reporting. It's not "stalking". But I'm not sure about the quality of the reporting. For example, how they describe L-T as

"in a mostly white neighborhood along a commuter route that runs from Prince George’s County to federal buildings downtown.

The school is almost entirely black and government statistics indicate that few of the students live in the neighborhood. Poor test scores have left neighborhood parents feeling they can’t use their own school, and must pay for private education or enroll their children in a more distant public school."

I don't think that accurately represents the L-T demographics, the current reputation of L-T, or the legitimate OOB system. It also seems to be trying to drive a pretty ugly racial/class wedge.

What's the commuter route from MD to L-T? The neighborhood demographics of L-T is not predominantly white. What am I missing in this awful reporting. There are so many lies or misinformation, such as in-state tuition to any state school, one has to wonder what the blogger got right.

Ward 6 was of 2010, 49% white, 41% black (it was majority black in 2000). The trend continues as Home values near LT start at 500k.

If you ever came over to the Hill on a weekday morning, you would notice the large volume of MD plated cars speeding through on MD Ave., PA Ave., C & H Streets, coming from Route 50, NY Abe, Bladensberg, 295, etc.

These parts of the article are absolutely true.

The article states that the area is all white, and the Black kids are all from Maryland. So where should the 41% of the Black kids attend school. And what's stopping the 49% of white kids from attending their inbound school. The author basically stated that white folks can't send their kids to school with all those black kids. The horror.

You are perhaps unaware that there is a significant difference in demographics between all of ward 6 and the people who live IB for LT.

You think LT's boundaries are 100% white?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am extremely skeptical about the quality and motivation of Daily Caller investigative reporting, but I have to say, it does sound like a pretty severe problem and like they did actual (appropriate) reporting. It's not "stalking". But I'm not sure about the quality of the reporting. For example, how they describe L-T as

"in a mostly white neighborhood along a commuter route that runs from Prince George’s County to federal buildings downtown.

The school is almost entirely black and government statistics indicate that few of the students live in the neighborhood. Poor test scores have left neighborhood parents feeling they can’t use their own school, and must pay for private education or enroll their children in a more distant public school."

I don't think that accurately represents the L-T demographics, the current reputation of L-T, or the legitimate OOB system. It also seems to be trying to drive a pretty ugly racial/class wedge.

What's the commuter route from MD to L-T? The neighborhood demographics of L-T is not predominantly white. What am I missing in this awful reporting. There are so many lies or misinformation, such as in-state tuition to any state school, one has to wonder what the blogger got right.

Ward 6 was of 2010, 49% white, 41% black (it was majority black in 2000). The trend continues as Home values near LT start at 500k.

If you ever came over to the Hill on a weekday morning, you would notice the large volume of MD plated cars speeding through on MD Ave., PA Ave., C & H Streets, coming from Route 50, NY Abe, Bladensberg, 295, etc.

These parts of the article are absolutely true.

The article states that the area is all white, and the Black kids are all from Maryland. So where should the 41% of the Black kids attend school. And what's stopping the 49% of white kids from attending their inbound school. The author basically stated that white folks can't send their kids to school with all those black kids. The horror.

You are perhaps unaware that there is a significant difference in demographics between all of ward 6 and the people who live IB for LT.

You think LT's boundaries are 100% white?

I know right.

[Anonymous]

Wait, what? I could've sent my kids to preschool in DC and traded my Honda Civic in for Cadillac Escalade???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am extremely skeptical about the quality and motivation of Daily Caller investigative reporting, but I have to say, it does sound like a pretty severe problem and like they did actual (appropriate) reporting. It's not "stalking". But I'm not sure about the quality of the reporting. For example, how they describe L-T as

"in a mostly white neighborhood along a commuter route that runs from Prince George’s County to federal buildings downtown.

The school is almost entirely black and government statistics indicate that few of the students live in the neighborhood. Poor test scores have left neighborhood parents feeling they can’t use their own school, and must pay for private education or enroll their children in a more distant public school."

I don't think that accurately represents the L-T demographics, the current reputation of L-T, or the legitimate OOB system. It also seems to be trying to drive a pretty ugly racial/class wedge.

What's the commuter route from MD to L-T? The neighborhood demographics of L-T is not predominantly white. What am I missing in this awful reporting. There are so many lies or misinformation, such as in-state tuition to any state school, one has to wonder what the blogger got right.

Ward 6 was of 2010, 49% white, 41% black (it was majority black in 2000). The trend continues as Home values near LT start at 500k.

If you ever came over to the Hill on a weekday morning, you would notice the large volume of MD plated cars speeding through on MD Ave., PA Ave., C & H Streets, coming from Route 50, NY Abe, Bladensberg, 295, etc.

These parts of the article are absolutely true.

The article states that the area is all white, and the Black kids are all from Maryland. So where should the 41% of the Black kids attend school. And what's stopping the 49% of white kids from attending their inbound school. The author basically stated that white folks can't send their kids to school with all those black kids. The horror.

You are perhaps unaware that there is a significant difference in demographics between all of ward 6 and the people who live IB for LT.

You think LT's boundaries are 100% white?

In terms of families with young children, yes.

[Anonymous]

the article is infuriating and the only race card is the one being played by central office or by black principals who don't want to see their schools gentrified. every tax payer should be disgusted by this.

[Anonymous]

Great points. And let's not forget that one of Kaya's goals with her 5 year plan was to increase the number of students in DC schools. She managed to do it - by any means necessary.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I do believe there is residency fraud. However, I believe this reporter out right lied in this article. How many people would stop and share their family situations with a stranger? Would any of you? And he states that he pulled tax records among other things to determine their lack of residency. Who gave them the names to pull? How many people would share their names with a stranger standing on the street asking questions.

You don't need a name if you have an address.

+1

They followed these people to their home. Once you have the address, you can pull all sorts of property and tax records from the District and MD county websites. Then once you have a name, you can cross-reference it with property in the District. They can also then look up marriage and divorce records to establish the household make-up.

My guess is that these parents didn't willingly volunteer information. More likely is that they were ambushed by these reporters with rhetorical questions - "Why do you live in MD and send your child to school in DC? Are you paying tuition to DCPS? Can you confirm that you are Joe Smith that works at the Department of Labor?" - that the reporters already knew the answers to. Using public records, you can easily figure out with 95% certainty if someone is a cheater. If these parents work for the government, they're even dumber - all their salary info is public record.

So why doesn't OSSE do this level of investigation?

The Chancellor does't give them the resources. There's a lot of solidly middle class and UMC families that would get caught up in the investigations. These people are fellow church goers and relatives of DC pols, business folks, and bureaucrats. And there is certainly a very strong element that folks who left the District but grew up here still have "rights" to their old block and former schools. Lots of messy inter-personal relationships that just make it easier to ignore the problem.

Plus, DCPS is primarily spending Federal government money. The more kids in the system, the more DCPS pulls from Congress. They have every incentive to keep headcount high.

Finally, I think there is a feeling that kids in PG County are getting shafted by the MD state government. District pols feel the need to protect those kids and families by offering them District resources.

[Anonymous]

Honestly, I think is cruel to remove a child from a school he/she has attended for years; similarly to the children brought to the US as illegal immigrants, it is not their fault.

The current 'cheaters' should be allowed to stay and finish, but the administration should also clamp down to prevent any new non-residents from enrolling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:the article is infuriating and the only race card is the one being played by central office or by black principals who don't want to see their schools gentrified. every tax payer should be disgusted by this.

Do you even live here? Because you would be aware that the principals of the schools named are NOT African American.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I think is cruel to remove a child from a school he/she has attended for years; similarly to the children brought to the US as illegal immigrants, it is not their fault.

The current 'cheaters' should be allowed to stay and finish, but the administration should also clamp down to prevent any new non-residents from enrolling.

No. Millions of kids get moved between schools all the time and turn out just fine. If they aren't residents they need to go. Period. Plus, based on what was observed, 40 percent of their friends might be coming with back to their i