Cooper Middle School New AAP center

[Anonymous]

Janie Strauss is the school board representative to Dranesville, and she heavily is in favor of Option 1 to make Cooper a center in the Fall of 2016 (despite telling parents prior to the election that it wouldn't happen that soon). Won't she have a strong say?

[Anonymous]

Is John Foust the magisterial district representative to Dranesville?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread has totally got off topic. The issue at stake here is whether or not to force the issue at Cooper next year or to preserve the opportunity to choose between Cooper's local level IV or the centers of Longfellow and Kilmer. I'd personally rather see the choice be preserved-don't know when in life it has ever been good to limit options.

But apparently it's just fine to limit the options of General Ed students. No such choices for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Janie Strauss is the school board representative to Dranesville, and she heavily is in favor of Option 1 to make Cooper a center in the Fall of 2016 (despite telling parents prior to the election that it wouldn't happen that soon). Won't she have a strong say?

You may hear what you want to hear. Janie has been saying for years that this was inevitable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Janie Strauss is the school board representative to Dranesville, and she heavily is in favor of Option 1 to make Cooper a center in the Fall of 2016 (despite telling parents prior to the election that it wouldn't happen that soon). Won't she have a strong say?

[/b]You may hear what you want to hear. Janie has been saying for years that this was inevitable.

[b]

It wasn't selective hearing-other parents can confirm. ES Principal said same thing too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread has totally got off topic. The issue at stake here is whether or not to force the issue at Cooper next year or to preserve the opportunity to choose between Cooper's local level IV or the centers of Longfellow and Kilmer. I'd personally rather see the choice be preserved-don't know when in life it has ever been good to limit options.

But apparently it's just fine to limit the options of General Ed students. No such choices for them.

+1000
If I hear one more time about one group of snowflakes having a choice of schools, I'm going to vomit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread has totally got off topic. The issue at stake here is whether or not to force the issue at Cooper next year or to preserve the opportunity to choose between Cooper's local level IV or the centers of Longfellow and Kilmer. I'd personally rather see the choice be preserved-don't know when in life it has ever been good to limit options.

But apparently it's just fine to limit the options of General Ed students. No such choices for them.

+1000
If I hear one more time about one group of snowflakes having a choice of schools, I'm going to vomit.

I love my that my kids get to choose which ES & MS are right for them!! (Standing back now so your puke doesn't hit my shoes). Seriously, what's the damage, Heather? Do you feel GE students should also have school choice in ES? If so between what and what? (And ignoring the fact that your kids CAN choose a magnet or immersion program, and that AAP kids whose base school is a Center DON'T have a choice). Are you arguing for charters (which are less choice and more lottery)? More or different magnet ESs? Something else? Or are you just pissed that AAP kids have Centers? Because I would have a lot more respect for this argument if you were arguing for your child having more choice (with a specific proposal or plan as to what that choice is), rather than just arguing that my child should have fewer options. The former make it seem like you really care about a good educational environment for your kid. The later makes you seem jealous and petty.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread has totally got off topic. The issue at stake here is whether or not to force the issue at Cooper next year or to preserve the opportunity to choose between Cooper's local level IV or the centers of Longfellow and Kilmer. I'd personally rather see the choice be preserved-don't know when in life it has ever been good to limit options.

But apparently it's just fine to limit the options of General Ed students. No such choices for them.

+1000
If I hear one more time about one group of snowflakes having a choice of schools, I'm going to vomit.

I love my that my kids get to choose which ES & MS are right for them!! (Standing back now so your puke doesn't hit my shoes). Seriously, what's the damage, Heather? Do you feel GE students should also have school choice in ES? If so between what and what? (And ignoring the fact that your kids CAN choose a magnet or immersion program, and that AAP kids whose base school is a Center DON'T have a choice). Are you arguing for charters (which are less choice and more lottery)? More or different magnet ESs? Something else? Or are you just pissed that AAP kids have Centers? Because I would have a lot more respect for this argument if you were arguing for your child having more choice (with a specific proposal or plan as to what that choice is), rather than just arguing that my child should have fewer options. The former make it seem like you really care about a good educational environment for your kid. The later makes you seem jealous and petty.

Not the PP, but I agree with the sentiment. If you're actually implying that AAP kids have the choice between two different programs, you'd be seriously incorrect. If they have LLIV at their base school, but are then choosing to attend a center, they are not choosing a different program, they're simply choosing a different school - with free transportation included, to boot. You can argue until the cows come home, but that's the truth. The choice is redundant and shouldn't be offered unless FCPS plans to offer all students the choice of switching schools.

Kids choosing immersion are actually choosing a program that is not offered at their base school (with no transportation included) - you're comparing apples and oranges.

[Anonymous]

Cooper has a LLIV program and when all those kids get moved over and Carson gets split up too, Cooper will be among largest center middle schools in FCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If they have LLIV at their base school, but are then choosing to attend a center, they are not choosing a different program, they're simply choosing a different school - with free transportation included, to boot. You can argue until the cows come home, but that's the truth.

No cows here, but correcting an error -- there is a difference between the Center and LLIV programs, with wide deviations at some schools.

For example, our neighborhood school has a LLIV program with 3 Center-eligible students in each grade. A student who chooses to be placed at the assigned Center school is not in the same program at the Center school as they would be at the base school with LLIV.

If I were the FCPS Superintendent, I would be eliminating LLIV at schools where there are less than 15 to 20 Center-eligible students per grade level.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If they have LLIV at their base school, but are then choosing to attend a center, they are not choosing a different program, they're simply choosing a different school - with free transportation included, to boot. You can argue until the cows come home, but that's the truth.

No cows here, but correcting an error -- there is a difference between the Center and LLIV programs, with wide deviations at some schools.

For example, our neighborhood school has a LLIV program with 3 Center-eligible students in each grade. A student who chooses to be placed at the assigned Center school is not in the same program at the Center school as they would be at the base school with LLIV.

If I were the FCPS Superintendent, I would be eliminating LLIV at schools where there are less than 15 to 20 Center-eligible students per grade level.

Good point, PP. To stay with the spirit of this thread, though, this is not the case with the LLIV program at Cooper. All students in their program are LLIV eligible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Looks as though the school board has been hard at work already and have sent out an email today requesting community "feedback" on the issue of having Cooper become an official center school for next fall. Anyone care to comment (preferably not a bunch of disgruntled Longfellow and Kilmer parents either)...

The recommended boundary adjustment from Facilities (as posted on BoardDocs for tomorrow's work session) lists an "Anticipated Effective Date" of SY17-18. So fall of 2017, not next fall.

Of course the School Board can go with or against Facilities' recommendation.

http://www.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/goto?open&id=A4JL9M51F963

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looks as though the school board has been hard at work already and have sent out an email today requesting community "feedback" on the issue of having Cooper become an official center school for next fall. Anyone care to comment (preferably not a bunch of disgruntled Longfellow and Kilmer parents either)...

The recommended boundary adjustment from Facilities (as posted on BoardDocs for tomorrow's work session) lists an "Anticipated Effective Date" of SY17-18. So fall of 2017, not next fall.

Of course the School Board can go with or against Facilities' recommendation.

http://www.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/goto?open&id=A4JL9M51F963

At the meeting, it was mentioned they would be sending out a parent survey-I haven't received anything yet. I wonder if they are trying to shore up a bunch of community support to push this through for next year. Personally hoping for a choice for one last year...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looks as though the school board has been hard at work already and have sent out an email today requesting community "feedback" on the issue of having Cooper become an official center school for next fall. Anyone care to comment (preferably not a bunch of disgruntled Longfellow and Kilmer parents either)...

The recommended boundary adjustment from Facilities (as posted on BoardDocs for tomorrow's work session) lists an "Anticipated Effective Date" of SY17-18. So fall of 2017, not next fall.

Of course the School Board can go with or against Facilities' recommendation.

http://www.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/goto?open&id=A4JL9M51F963

If that's true, it's disappointing. No relief for kids at absurdly overcrowded Kilmer ( 150% capacity), but plenty of time for Cooper families to have a "perfect" AAP experience. The hypocrisy in this system is ludicrous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looks as though the school board has been hard at work already and have sent out an email today requesting community "feedback" on the issue of having Cooper become an official center school for next fall. Anyone care to comment (preferably not a bunch of disgruntled Longfellow and Kilmer parents either)...

The recommended boundary adjustment from Facilities (as posted on BoardDocs for tomorrow's work session) lists an "Anticipated Effective Date" of SY17-18. So fall of 2017, not next fall.

Of course the School Board can go with or against Facilities' recommendation.

http://www.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/goto?open&id=A4JL9M51F963

If that's true, it's disappointing. No relief for kids at absurdly overcrowded Kilmer ( 150% capacity), but plenty of time for Cooper families to have a "perfect" AAP experience. The hypocrisy in this system is ludicrous.

Actually, if you review the documents handed out at the AAP meeting, the majority of Great Falls schools including Colvin Run are already selecting Cooper over Kilmer for their Level
IV program-so you can't blame AAP for the 150% capacity. Moving the remainder of the kids out won't be a panacea for Kilmer. Thems the facts..