9th Grade Muslim student arrested for making a homemade clock fro school project

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:was not sure how to edit previous post to combine them-not sock puppetting!

Well, you've posted a dozen times, including talking to yourself in the 3rd person. Maybe you can collect your thoughts before the next post?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: Guess what, a Texas middle school seems a pretty unlikely target in comparison to the "President's Park." Once a goober always a goober.

And how about a high school in say, Columbine, Colorado? Is that an unlikely target? If a student walks in with what looks like a gun or a bomb, should we not say anything, because it is most likely harmless?

A bomb is neither a joking matter or an opportunity to score political points.

[Anonymous]

I hope he and his family move north where we value smart, inventive people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:yet no support to this kid for a pop tart http://www.cbsnews.com/news/examiner-recommends-school-board-uphold-pop-tart-suspension/

It was only a matter of time before someone brought this up. Are you seriously this stupid? The pop tart gun case is nothing like this case. In the pop tart case, the kid broke a rule (albeit a very stupid rule) and was suspended according to the school's standard procedure. This child broke no rules, was hauled out of school in handcuffs, questioned in a hostile manner by obviously xenophobic cops, and suspended on top of it. He was not doing something inane like pointing a gun shaped pop tart. He built a clock. He is a future engineer and we need more students like him. With all the emphasis on STEM and the future of the American workforce, it makes perfect sense for Obama to invite him to the White House.

I didn't know there are rules against pop tarts

Did you read the article about the pop tart? The kid had a long history of disruptive behavior.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Guess what, a Texas middle school seems a pretty unlikely target in comparison to the "President's Park." Once a goober always a goober.

And how about a high school in say, Columbine, Colorado? Is that an unlikely target? If a student walks in with what looks like a gun or a bomb, should we not say anything, because it is most likely harmless?

A bomb is neither a joking matter or an opportunity to score political points.

At what point after you have determined that it is not a bomb, do you quit persecuting the poor kid? I don't think anyone is bothered that someone thought the clock looked threatening. The issue is that that in reaction to their fear, the school officials called the police, the police cuffed him and subjected him to interrogation. That was an extreme over-reaction. By their own admission, the police were not willing to accept that the clock was a clock. They had predetermined that there was a "wider explanation".

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Guess what, a Texas middle school seems a pretty unlikely target in comparison to the "President's Park." Once a goober always a goober.

And how about a high school in say, Columbine, Colorado? Is that an unlikely target? If a student walks in with what looks like a gun or a bomb, should we not say anything, because it is most likely harmless?

A bomb is neither a joking matter or an opportunity to score political points.

At what point after you have determined that it is not a bomb, do you quit persecuting the poor kid? I don't think anyone is bothered that someone thought the clock looked threatening. The issue is that that in reaction to their fear, the school officials called the police, the police cuffed him and subjected him to interrogation. That was an extreme over-reaction. By their own admission, the police were not willing to accept that the clock was a clock. They had predetermined that there was a "wider explanation".

and Tsarnev's Djokar simply had a pressure cooker-sadly these days we need to take all kinds of precautions.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Guess what, a Texas middle school seems a pretty unlikely target in comparison to the "President's Park." Once a goober always a goober.

And how about a high school in say, Columbine, Colorado? Is that an unlikely target? If a student walks in with what looks like a gun or a bomb, should we not say anything, because it is most likely harmless?

A bomb is neither a joking matter or an opportunity to score political points.

At what point after you have determined that it is not a bomb, do you quit persecuting the poor kid? I don't think anyone is bothered that someone thought the clock looked threatening. The issue is that that in reaction to their fear, the school officials called the police, the police cuffed him and subjected him to interrogation. That was an extreme over-reaction. By their own admission, the police were not willing to accept that the clock was a clock. They had predetermined that there was a "wider explanation".

and Tsarnev's Djokar simply had a pressure cooker-sadly these days we need to take all kinds of precautions.

They had a bomb. Ahmed had a clock. If you are not capable of distinguishing one from the other, you have no business being in either a school or a police department.

[Anonymous]

Debate what the clock looks like/what they interpreted it as til the wee hours if you want - won't change the fact that the boy was wronged.

Hell the President invited him to the White House if the kid was even remotely culpable that invite wouldn't have been extended.

The administrators and the police f'ed up big time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://www.wired.com/2015/09/heres-bomb-clock-got-ahmed-mohamed-arrested/

looks more like a bomb detonator thing than a clock to me.....

Do you mean that clock thingy that counts down time till the bomb goes off?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The news tonight said that while the police dropped charges, the school suspension stands. Why on earth is a school insisting on suspending this student?
Really, is this the nation in which I live?

Reading between the lines ("passive agressive" answers) my suspicion is that the boy gave them attitude when he was questioned.

[Anonymous]

My news feed says the white house shut down today over a coffee cup

[Anonymous]

Ahmed had a crude bomb resembling clock-look at the clocks in your home-do any of them look like a bunch of wires, and electrical tape on circuits in a tiny black suitcase?

When I conjure up the image of a clock-the thing that kid made would never cross my mind-home made project or not. Look, I hope this is just a good kid who was misunderstood. I hope he goes far in life-gets into MIT and contributes great things to society. I hope that is the case. There will always be racism, unfair judgements about others, including Islamophobia-part of life and we all have to deal with it. Barak Obama should focus more on real issues and not get involved in basic everyday civil crap issues like this. There are much bigger fish to fry on his plate.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:My news feed says the white house shut down today over a coffee cup

Well, not so long ago the Secret Service let a gunman walk into the Obama's living room. So, I guess it's one extreme to the other.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The news tonight said that while the police dropped charges, the school suspension stands. Why on earth is a school insisting on suspending this student?
Really, is this the nation in which I live?

Reading between the lines ("passive agressive" answers) my suspicion is that the boy gave them attitude when he was questioned.

They are also standing behind their determination that this was a "hoax bomb" device. They are taking a zero tolerance policy agains kids bringing weapons, actual weapons AND anything that looks like weapons or could be interpreted as being a weapon, into school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Guess what, a Texas middle school seems a pretty unlikely target in comparison to the "President's Park." Once a goober always a goober.

And how about a high school in say, Columbine, Colorado? Is that an unlikely target? If a student walks in with what looks like a gun or a bomb, should we not say anything, because it is most likely harmless?

A bomb is neither a joking matter or an opportunity to score political points.

To the best of my knowledge, no one is arguing that the school did anything wrong by asking questions about the device. If anything, it would have been remiss of them not to. The problem is the knee-jerk escalation simply because he was a Muslim - I won't bring his skin tone into the mix lest it distract some of you. Perhaps even notifying the police was prudent and part of the protocol. The problems start with stupid cops making stupid comments and baseless allegations. Had I been in the place of the student - who some of you seem to forget is only 14 - I would have copped an attitude the size of the Lone Star State itself. It may be presumptuous but I'm guessing an intelligent Muslim teenager living in Texas has a pretty good understanding of his rights as an Ametican citizen. Then, in spite of the fact there was more than sufficient evidence to realize that this was an overreaction on the part of the school, he winds up arrested and cuffed because irving's version of Starsky and Hutch don't care for his attitude. A much better way to have handled the situation would have been not to treat the boy as a terrorist but to sit him down and explain why the school was alarmed and responded in the manner it did. A teachable moment if you will. That would be expecting too much. Instead, the fucknute double down on their stupidity by not bothering to contact his parents before taking a minor into custody and then adding further insult and injustice by suspending him from school. In the end, the 14-year old comes out looking more mature than the dumbass adults who are supposed to be in charge. Someone needs to be held accountable.