Do you think having an abortion will mean you are going to hell?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:LOL no it doesn't work that way

It most certainly does. God knows his people are sinners and he forgives them as long as they are sorry and continue to believe in Jesus as their savior. If they are sorry, or stop committing so many sins but no longer believe in Jesus, then he does not forgive them. Those people don't care, because they no longer believe in salvation, but God is still keeping track of them and will punish them after they die for their lack of belief, no matter how good they were compared to faithful Christians.

My God is not that petty.

You decided that christian beliefs are petty and invented your own god

No, I decided your version of Christianity is petty and wrong.

Well, again that's nice, but "what you decided" has no basis in fact or reality.

Sure it does, just as much as yours does. I've read the Bible. I'm good at interpreting words. Lots of Christians disagree with you on this.

So what -- Christianity is not a popularity contest.

So you should stop pretending this is what all Christians believe.

They are standard Christian beliefs and it's pretty obvious from this thread that not all Christians believe them. Some people make up their own beliefs.

They're not standard for my Protestant church. Are you one of those born again types?

You mean the "type" that follows God's word?

So your version of Christianity is the only right way. You dismiss many mainstream Christian churches. You're Shiite Christian.

uh-oh -calling Christians who believe in salvation "Shites"

Nope. Just those who think their way of Christianity is the only acceptable way.

how to decide what is acceptable? - from the Bible, from Church doctrine, or inside people's heads by just deciding what seems right for themselves. Maybe individuals can come up with something as good or even better than what's in the Bible or church doctrine, but they should at least acknowledge that they are making it up on their own and that they don't represent the word of god.

Or maybe you should accept that you're making up which parts of the bible and which church's doctrine you choose to believe.

Actually lots of people should accept that they believe what they want to, for instance al the people, like Luther, and Henry the 8th and Calvin, who start up new branches of Christianity because they don't like certain aspects of what they were taught. But even al those branches, as well as the more recent evangelicals believe in heaven and hell. Now hell is going out of style for some people. Fine -- start you own branch of non-hell Christianity -- heaven only, which begs the question of why Christ died for our sins, if there is no hell to save us from, but maybe this new branch won't even believe that Christ died for us. They'll just believe in some of the stuff Jesus said that makes them feel good.

So to those people who don't believe in hell -- do you also not believe Jesus died for our salvation?

Do you believe in ESP and alien abductions?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Yes. The guy who saves wounded civilians in war zones but worships the "wrong" God gets to go to heaven. I'm okay with that. Much better than him going to Hell. Or worse, the unbelieving hold going to hell. I can't conceive of a God who would be so arbitrarily cruel.

Just because you can't conceive of such a god doesn't mean he doesn't exist. really, have you read the Bible lately? God can be really mean to people who displease him. Maybe your god has nothing to do with the bible or any religious denomination -- but is just an amalgamation of things that appeal to you.

Yes I've read the Bible. I think it's an account of God written by fallible humans and many things in it are symbolic. And I think the interpretation of PP is jus what appeals to him as well.

So what good is the Bible, if everyone just interprets it for themselves? Why not just put it aside and determine what's best based on common sense, experience and evidence?

Just eave out God and religion entirely. Who needs it.

Perhaps some people feel better thinking their personal morality is in alignment with established religion.

Sure! And the great thing is, there are so many to choose from, anyone can find one to suit them!

And then they can say things like "my God isn't like that."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Or maybe you should accept that you're making up which parts of the bible and which church's doctrine you choose to believe.

Which is what everyone is doing, really -- except those who discard "doctrine" altogether and just try to lead a good life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Do you believe in ESP and alien abductions?

Like Mormons having their private planets in the next life.

[Anonymous]

There is no hell. You made a decision, get on with your life. If you have bad feelings about it, they'll fade. Go out and treat people well and be the best you can be with this second chance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:First of all, I don't believe in hell.

But if there were a hell and women who had abortions were sent there after death, then many would surrounded by friends. So how bad could hell be?

Pretty bad if you and your friends are screaming in eternal torment

And that would be MANY women from around the world screaming in eternal torment, yes?

women (and some young girls) who have -

married, raised families, done good for humanity, adopted children, fostered children, created opportunities for other women, babysat grandchildren, taught future generations, cured others

all screaming in eternal torment, yes?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:First of all, I don't believe in hell.

But if there were a hell and women who had abortions were sent there after death, then many would surrounded by friends. So how bad could hell be?

Pretty bad if you and your friends are screaming in eternal torment

And that would be MANY women from around the world screaming in eternal torment, yes?

women (and some young girls) who have -

married, raised families, done good for humanity, adopted children, fostered children, created opportunities for other women, babysat grandchildren, taught future generations, cured others

all screaming in eternal torment, yes?

Cue for mellow Christian to come on and say: "My god doesn't have a hell like that. My hell is filled with girlfriends talking about the good old days."

[Anonymous]

If you think your going to hell then you probably are. Whatever your believe in hell is, that is where you are going.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you think your going to hell then you probably are. Whatever your believe in hell is, that is where you are going.

Do you mean metaphorically, or literally?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No. Not believing and trusting in Jesus Christ as your savior is why people go to hell, not specific sins.

This.

According to Christianity, you can commit any sin you want and still go to heaven and long as you believe and trust in Jesus Christ and ask forgiven for your sins. People sin repeatedly and ask forgiveness and God grants it as long as you're sincere and continue to believe.

Whoa! I am not religious, so this is interesting to read. You can do ANYTHING, and get a "get out of jail free card" so long as you blah, blah, blah? Nice! Sign me up!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you think your going to hell then you probably are. Whatever your believe in hell is, that is where you are going.

Do you mean metaphorically, or literally?

metaphorically, because literally no one knows what hell is or isn't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No. Not believing and trusting in Jesus Christ as your savior is why people go to hell, not specific sins.

This.

According to Christianity, you can commit any sin you want and still go to heaven and long as you believe and trust in Jesus Christ and ask forgiven for your sins. People sin repeatedly and ask forgiveness and God grants it as long as you're sincere and continue to believe.

Whoa! I am not religious, so this is interesting to read. You can do ANYTHING, and get a "get out of jail free card" so long as you blah, blah, blah? Nice! Sign me up!

It doesn't work that way, you have to ask Jesus to enter your heart, and then wait for him to enter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No. Not believing and trusting in Jesus Christ as your savior is why people go to hell, not specific sins.

This.

According to Christianity, you can commit any sin you want and still go to heaven and long as you believe and trust in Jesus Christ and ask forgiven for your sins. People sin repeatedly and ask forgiveness and God grants it as long as you're sincere and continue to believe.

Whoa! I am not religious, so this is interesting to read. You can do ANYTHING, and get a "get out of jail free card" so long as you blah, blah, blah? Nice! Sign me up!

It doesn't work that way, you have to ask Jesus to enter your heart, and then wait for him to enter.

How long does that take, or do you mean you have to be sincere, or what do you mean?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No. Not believing and trusting in Jesus Christ as your savior is why people go to hell, not specific sins.

This.

According to Christianity, you can commit any sin you want and still go to heaven and long as you believe and trust in Jesus Christ and ask forgiven for your sins. People sin repeatedly and ask forgiveness and God grants it as long as you're sincere and continue to believe.

Whoa! I am not religious, so this is interesting to read. You can do ANYTHING, and get a "get out of jail free card" so long as you blah, blah, blah? Nice! Sign me up!

It doesn't work that way, you have to ask Jesus to enter your heart, and then wait for him to enter.

How long does that take, or do you mean you have to be sincere, or what do you mean?

sometimes he enters and sometimes he doesn't -- it's up to Jesus -- the timing and whether he does or not. They say the asker has to be very sincere, but I've heard of many sincere people who were disappointed that Jesus did not take their invitation and some of them think it was their fault -- not doing it right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No. Not believing and trusting in Jesus Christ as your savior is why people go to hell, not specific sins.

This.

According to Christianity, you can commit any sin you want and still go to heaven and long as you believe and trust in Jesus Christ and ask forgiven for your sins. People sin repeatedly and ask forgiveness and God grants it as long as you're sincere and continue to believe.

Whoa! I am not religious, so this is interesting to read. You can do ANYTHING, and get a "get out of jail free card" so long as you blah, blah, blah? Nice! Sign me up!

It doesn't work that way, you have to ask Jesus to enter your heart, and then wait for him to enter.

How long does that take, or do you mean you have to be sincere, or what do you mean?

Hmmm. How can you tell when he's entered?
sometimes he enters and sometimes he doesn't -- it's up to Jesus -- the timing and whether he does or not. They say the asker has to be very sincere, but I've heard of many sincere people who were disappointed that Jesus did not take their invitation and some of them think it was their fault -- not doing it right.