I get the sense that people enjoy putting schools just outside the top-tier in their place, reminding anyone who will listen that it's not HYP (says the Ivy grad) or that it's not Michigan or Berkeley (says the striving UCLA grad). It definitely isn't like other high-end publics when it comes to research dollars and pulling great faculty, but that arguably makes its ranking even more interesting. In the end, there's a population who likes it and, really, that's fine. I'm not trying to scream can't we all just get along, but why is it so important to get anonymous people you don't know to admit that a shook you didn't attend isn't "really" that good? |
Because UVA grads tend to be obnoxious and pretentious without even earning the privilege and it's annoying when false statement is repeated over and over again so that some ignorant people actually believe the false statement (e.g. Cheney & Company). UNC, Illinois, Washington, Wisconsin etc. grads don't appear to give off the same obnoxious vibe. In fact, these schools may enjoy better overall academic reputation than UVA nationally outside of VA. |
The rankings speak for themselves. You sound bitter and unhinged. |
| I don't think they sound unhinged. I think they made a good point. Graduates from other top state universities seem more down to earth. |
UVA College of Arts and Sciences and W&M undergraduate (minus the business school) are pretty much the same thing. UVA Arts & Sciences enrolls nearly 75% of the undergraduates, but it does have engineering, nursing, architecture as well. You can apply to the business school at both in your second year. UVA undergraduate enrollment is about 2.7 times larger than W&M. |
This isn’t a big mystery. Those who put UVA down on this forum are mostly people from Maryland envious of UVA’s higher ranking compared to UMD, rounded out by miscellaneous people whose own kids got rejected from UVA. |
| I wish the GA would do something about rising costs at UVA |
This isn't accurate. I'm from Virginia and my kids haven't been rejected from UVA. I have no clue whether they will or won't be. Right now my DC has a 4.0 unweighted gpa. Again, I have no clue if this will continue. What's off putting is the constant reference of UVA as a "public Ivy." I think it's a good school, but its students and grads are very pretentious. It's off putting. |
Isn't UVA ranked above Mich, and isn't UCLA ranked above UCB and Mich? Fail to see how these schools aren't peers at the undergraduate level. In fact, it often seems that Umich isn't too difficult to get into. |
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My DD was really turned off by the attitude presented at the UVA tour. Elitism without the chomps to back it up. She felt that they were trying to present everyone is an extrovert future leader. My DD wants to save the world through science, not policy.
She was accepted to UVA, Tech, W & M (and every other school she applied to except Cornell). She is going to Tech. |
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This thread is from 2015.
UVA is a great school. The people who go there love it and are proud to have gone there. They don’t “Wahoowa” as much as Baka people say “roll tide,” but their enthusiasm for their school is similar. You don’t have to like the school, but restarting yet another thread where people try to argue that it’s a bad place is ridiculous. If it’s not for your kid, that’s fine. |
Well said. NP with no skin in this game. It boils down to the haters needing to hate to mitigate their own insecurities. When people try so hard to put something down, it says much more about them and their issues than it does about the thing they're trying to step on. |
| Tuition. Plantation. |
| UVA is very prestigious. End of story. |
+1. Not at all unhinged. I think that many UVA students could have gotten into a good or even great private but either couldn’t afford it or couldn’t justify the additional expense. They compensate for their lingering insecurity at having gone to a public state school by telling anybody that will listen that UVA is an elite college. |