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Anonymous wrote:If public schools were significantly better, there would be more competition and it would be harder to keep increasing the tuition above inflation. But that is not the case, so an annual increase of 4 to 6 percent will continue to be the norm in the years to come.

Some case studies: The best school in the DMV is a public school. The best schools in NYC are public schools. But if you have the cash and your kid can’t get in or if you are afraid of minorities, then off to private school to buy some nice diplomas.

Holton may be better than some MD publics. But is it $1 mil better? Almost certainly not. Especially since there is a good argument that the same kid does better in college admissions coming from a public vs a non-elite private like Holton.

This is a massive fallacy. Something like 30-40% of Ivy League students come from private schools.

Being rich, not necessarily smart, gets you into top colleges over others.

True. And whether you’re a rich kid at a public school or a private school, you’re probably going to be fine.

All of this is besides the point of this conversation, which was purely about college admissions prospects from private vs public school.

Private school kids are over represented in the Ivy League.

What that means, why, etc is not the point.

I think you might be confused. OP was this: “Tuition increase email came out. Holton next year will be $60,535 for all grades. Any other schools cross the $60k threshold?? Woof”

Discussions do change and wander though, so don’t get upset.

Read the exchange I was responding to. Someone argued public school kids do better in college admissions than kids from schools like Holton.

Similarly situated kids do just as well or better out of publics. And that is the truth.

Prove it.

I’ll counter with this: https://interactives.thecrimson.com/2024/news/feeders

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Anonymous wrote:I love how these people argue that:

1. Private school parents seek status.

2. Private schools do WORSE in college admissions than public schools.

If these parents seek status, why would they send their kid somewhere that makes it HARDER for their kid to get into an elite college?

That would work against the very thing you argue these parents want.

Because it is an illusion?

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Anonymous wrote:I love how these people argue that:

1. Private school parents seek status.

2. Private schools do WORSE in college admissions than public schools.

If these parents seek status, why would they send their kid somewhere that makes it HARDER for their kid to get into an elite college?

That would work against the very thing you argue these parents want.

It is because private schools are "perceived" as easier to get into Ivies, but in fact, only the top 20% students. So these parents want status and want to send their kid to Ivies. Aspiration versus reality? It is not at all contradictory.

If the top 20% of students at a private school go to an Ivy, that’s better than virtually any public school. How do you not see that?

Boy howdy for people claiming to know the value of private schools, you are dumb. Those students at the private getting into an Ivy would get in there from a public too. The value-add of private is if you have a slow/bad/lazy kid - you’ll still get them into college because that is what you are paying for.

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Anonymous wrote:I love how these people argue that:

1. Private school parents seek status.

2. Private schools do WORSE in college admissions than public schools.

If these parents seek status, why would they send their kid somewhere that makes it HARDER for their kid to get into an elite college?

That would work against the very thing you argue these parents want.

It is because private schools are "perceived" as easier to get into Ivies, but in fact, only the top 20% students. So these parents want status and want to send their kid to Ivies. Aspiration versus reality? It is not at all contradictory.

If the top 20% of students at a private school go to an Ivy, that’s better than virtually any public school. How do you not see that?

That is still an aspiration, not all private (not all Big 5) have the stats (maybe only Sidwell, maybe). The problem is that the bottom 50% sometimes fare worse than the rest of the public, but the parents still pay all the money. But the parents at the private, all of them, aim for Ivies.

Not all private school parents aim for Ivy League schools.

You are so out of your depth.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I love how these people argue that:

1. Private school parents seek status.

2. Private schools do WORSE in college admissions than public schools.

If these parents seek status, why would they send their kid somewhere that makes it HARDER for their kid to get into an elite college?

That would work against the very thing you argue these parents want.

Because it is an illusion?

So these people can’t look at matriculation stats? Are they blind?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I love how these people argue that:

1. Private school parents seek status.

2. Private schools do WORSE in college admissions than public schools.

If these parents seek status, why would they send their kid somewhere that makes it HARDER for their kid to get into an elite college?

That would work against the very thing you argue these parents want.

Because it is an illusion?

So these people can’t look at matriculation stats? Are they blind?

Not Blind at all. Yes, on average, top private schools might do a bit better for their top 20% students. But still, a top student at Montgomery-Blair or Walls might have a higher chance of getting into an Ivy than a top student at GDS or Maret. The bottom 50% is even harder to predict.

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Anonymous wrote:I love how these people argue that:

1. Private school parents seek status.

2. Private schools do WORSE in college admissions than public schools.

If these parents seek status, why would they send their kid somewhere that makes it HARDER for their kid to get into an elite college?

That would work against the very thing you argue these parents want.

It is because private schools are "perceived" as easier to get into Ivies, but in fact, only the top 20% students. So these parents want status and want to send their kid to Ivies. Aspiration versus reality? It is not at all contradictory.

If the top 20% of students at a private school go to an Ivy, that’s better than virtually any public school. How do you not see that?

That is still an aspiration, not all private (not all Big 5) have the stats (maybe only Sidwell, maybe). The problem is that the bottom 50% sometimes fare worse than the rest of the public, but the parents still pay all the money. But the parents at the private, all of them, aim for Ivies.

Not all private school parents aim for Ivy League schools.

You are so out of your depth.

Yes, of course. But I am responding to the person who said status should be aligned with Ivy League admission. Some of the logic is very odd: parents want status, so private schools must offer. Higher Ivy admission because if not, why do parents send the kids there?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I love how these people argue that:

1. Private school parents seek status.

2. Private schools do WORSE in college admissions than public schools.

If these parents seek status, why would they send their kid somewhere that makes it HARDER for their kid to get into an elite college?

That would work against the very thing you argue these parents want.

It is because private schools are "perceived" as easier to get into Ivies, but in fact, only the top 20% students. So these parents want status and want to send their kid to Ivies. Aspiration versus reality? It is not at all contradictory.

If the top 20% of students at a private school go to an Ivy, that’s better than virtually any public school. How do you not see that?

That is still an aspiration, not all private (not all Big 5) have the stats (maybe only Sidwell, maybe). The problem is that the bottom 50% sometimes fare worse than the rest of the public, but the parents still pay all the money. But the parents at the private, all of them, aim for Ivies.

Not all private school parents aim for Ivy League schools.

You are so out of your depth.

Not a single one I met from Big 3 did not have this aspiration before they realized their snowflakes are kind of dumb.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love how these people argue that:

1. Private school parents seek status.

2. Private schools do WORSE in college admissions than public schools.

If these parents seek status, why would they send their kid somewhere that makes it HARDER for their kid to get into an elite college?

That would work against the very thing you argue these parents want.

Because it is an illusion?

So these people can’t look at matriculation stats? Are they blind?

Not Blind at all. Yes, on average, top private schools might do a bit better for their top 20% students. But still, a top student at Montgomery-Blair or Walls might have a higher chance of getting into an Ivy than a top student at GDS or Maret. The bottom 50% is even harder to predict.

The magnet schools are not a reasonable comparison.

Look at regular public schools.

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Anonymous wrote:I love how these people argue that:

1. Private school parents seek status.

2. Private schools do WORSE in college admissions than public schools.

If these parents seek status, why would they send their kid somewhere that makes it HARDER for their kid to get into an elite college?

That would work against the very thing you argue these parents want.

It is because private schools are "perceived" as easier to get into Ivies, but in fact, only the top 20% students. So these parents want status and want to send their kid to Ivies. Aspiration versus reality? It is not at all contradictory.

If the top 20% of students at a private school go to an Ivy, that’s better than virtually any public school. How do you not see that?

That is still an aspiration, not all private (not all Big 5) have the stats (maybe only Sidwell, maybe). The problem is that the bottom 50% sometimes fare worse than the rest of the public, but the parents still pay all the money. But the parents at the private, all of them, aim for Ivies.

Not all private school parents aim for Ivy League schools.

You are so out of your depth.

Not a single one I met from Big 3 did not have this aspiration before they realized their snowflakes are kind of dumb.

Yes, you clearly have a vast knowledge of private school parents, so we will trust you blindly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I love how these people argue that:

1. Private school parents seek status.

2. Private schools do WORSE in college admissions than public schools.

If these parents seek status, why would they send their kid somewhere that makes it HARDER for their kid to get into an elite college?

That would work against the very thing you argue these parents want.

Because it is an illusion?

So these people can’t look at matriculation stats? Are they blind?

Not Blind at all. Yes, on average, top private schools might do a bit better for their top 20% students. But still, a top student at Montgomery-Blair or Walls might have a higher chance of getting into an Ivy than a top student at GDS or Maret. The bottom 50% is even harder to predict.

The magnet schools are not a reasonable comparison.

Look at regular public schools.

But the magnet schools are free.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love how these people argue that:

1. Private school parents seek status.

2. Private schools do WORSE in college admissions than public schools.

If these parents seek status, why would they send their kid somewhere that makes it HARDER for their kid to get into an elite college?

That would work against the very thing you argue these parents want.

Because it is an illusion?

So these people can’t look at matriculation stats? Are they blind?

Not Blind at all. Yes, on average, top private schools might do a bit better for their top 20% students. But still, a top student at Montgomery-Blair or Walls might have a higher chance of getting into an Ivy than a top student at GDS or Maret. The bottom 50% is even harder to predict.

The magnet schools are not a reasonable comparison.

Look at regular public schools.

But the magnet schools are free.

But almost no one goes to them. They’re also tailor-made for STEM acceleration. They’re very specialized.

Private school aren’t specialized like that. It’s apples to oranges to compare private schools to STEM magnets.


So it’s a better comparison to look at private schools vs regular public schools.

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In any case you cannot really compare Holton with a regular or magnet public school. It is completely different from both.

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Anonymous wrote:In any case you cannot really compare Holton with a regular or magnet public school. It is completely different from both.

And yet people on this thread argue kids at Holton are at a disadvantage in college admissions compared to public school kids.

Why people would send their kids to a school that is a liability for college admissions is beyond me. But this is the world these posters live in.

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Anonymous wrote:I love how these people argue that:

1. Private school parents seek status.

2. Private schools do WORSE in college admissions than public schools.

If these parents seek status, why would they send their kid somewhere that makes it HARDER for their kid to get into an elite college?

That would work against the very thing you argue these parents want.

Because it is an illusion?

So these people can’t look at matriculation stats? Are they blind?

Not Blind at all. Yes, on average, top private schools might do a bit better for their top 20% students. But still, a top student at Montgomery-Blair or Walls might have a higher chance of getting into an Ivy than a top student at GDS or Maret. The bottom 50% is even harder to predict.

The magnet schools are not a reasonable comparison.

Look at regular public schools.

Why are magnets not a reasonable comparison? Your Ivy-bound kid should have been able to get into a magnet. And we don’t need to look at magnets either, just the outcomes of similar demographics at public schools. I’m sorry if going to say, Whitman instead of Holton, would have so crippled your child as to diminish their college prospects, then your kid likely was not Ivy bound in the first place, at any school.

The real comparison for privates is how average or below average kids fare. There, I can believe that those kids might get a boost compared to public.