2 found dead at Rob Reiner's house; possibly Rob and his wife

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Anonymous wrote:They are Jewish and killed then first day of Jewish holidays

When this story was breaking last night, I thought it was another act of anti-Semitic violence.

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I am really, really saddened by this, but found these words from people who knew Rob and Michele, worked with them, or made art inspired by them, comforting in a strange way:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/1pn7x0p/cary_elwes_quinta_brunson_ayo_edebiri_kathy_bates/

Just so sad and so unfair. No one should die this way. He brought so much joy to so many people, including me. I love his movies. Princess Bride and When Harry Met Sally are two of my all-time favorites. I showed my 8 year old Princess Bride last year for the first time and she just giggled all the way through it and it was amazing to share it with her and see it through her eyes.

It's really amazing to me to think about the different movies he made even aside from those two which are may favorite. He took on so many different sorts of stories. He obviously loved and understood humor but he could make you scared, sad, sentimental, relieved... just a master of human emotion. What a titan.

I hope he and Michele are somewhere peaceful now. I hope his living family also finds peace somehow in this horrible tragedy. What a loss.

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Anonymous wrote:Nick had 17 stays in rehab. Severely mentally ill and needed more than rehab support/interventions.

Why is rehab so ineffective? This isn't a matter of money or access. I have a brother like this too, I don't trust him and just hope he doesn't rage out like this some day.

It’s ineffective when people are only doing it out of force. Same as all therapy.

It has to be choice and the person wants to get help. Many mentally ill folks do not want to be on drugs and don't think they need drugs.

Then they need to be locked up and not free to harm others.

Oh sure! Snap! It's so easy to get someone locked up just in case they might do something someday. You clearly have no idea.

When there's a history of drug/alcohol addiction and mental illness, the person needs to be hospitalized longterm if that person refuses help.

This is not easy to do. The family may have tried but it's very, very hard to institutionalize someone. I have personal experience with this.

PP here. I know due to family members' mental illness and addictions. The laws need to change.

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Anonymous wrote:Nick had 17 stays in rehab. Severely mentally ill and needed more than rehab support/interventions.

Why is rehab so ineffective? This isn't a matter of money or access. I have a brother like this too, I don't trust him and just hope he doesn't rage out like this some day.

It’s ineffective when people are only doing it out of force. Same as all therapy.

It has to be choice and the person wants to get help. Many mentally ill folks do not want to be on drugs and don't think they need drugs.

Then they need to be locked up and not free to harm others.

Oh sure! Snap! It's so easy to get someone locked up just in case they might do something someday. You clearly have no idea.

When there's a history of drug/alcohol addiction and mental illness, the person needs to be hospitalized longterm if that person refuses help.

It is virtually impossible to get someone locked up unless the explicitly threaten harm against themselves or others. If happens over and over that people tell the police that they will not harm anyone, the cops leave, and the person kills people later.

I understand and know from family members' struggles. The laws need to change.

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Anonymous wrote:They are Jewish and killed then first day of Jewish holidays

Yeah, when there are family issues, violence often increases around holidays. Because families are spending time together. Sometimes it’s a time when family members say things like “we love you. You are out of control. We can’t keep paying your bills for you to live like those. You need to go to rehab.” I don’t know if that happened here but often it’s when family members draw boundaries, it leads to violence. Or even just a “don’t talk your mom that way” and things escalate from there. Holidays can be rough for a lot of people for a lot of reasons.

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Anonymous wrote:He seemed like a super nice human. I wish this hadn’t happened. So many parts of my childhood were touched by his work. Huge loss.

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Anonymous wrote:They are Jewish and killed then first day of Jewish holidays

Why do you repeat this error when you know it was their son?

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Anonymous wrote:They are Jewish and killed then first day of Jewish holidays

When this story was breaking last night, I thought it was another act of anti-Semitic violence.

As others have pointed out, the holidays, regardless of which religion or tradition, dredge stuff up.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t every criminal mentally ill? Healthy people aren’t evil.

Oh I totally disagree.

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When someone with Rob Reiner's level of wealth and connections can't get help for his adult son, what chance do the rest of us have?

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Anonymous wrote:When someone with Rob Reiner's level of wealth and connections can't get help for his adult son, what chance do the rest of us have?

Money does not solve certain things.

Anyone who deals with a family member who has addiction issues struggles.

My parents are wealthy (not Rob Reiner wealthy, but wealthy enough to throw a lot of money at a problem) and my brother still struggles enormously with addition. I sometimes think that having parents who are capable of rescuing you makes recovery harder, whether they help you or not. Because you know they can. My brother has come to my parents for help so many times in his life. They love him, they help him. When they have set boundaries with him or tried to say, we can only help you so far and then you have to help yourself, he gets very angry and it can trigger more issues.

Money is not a solution to this particular problem, as much as many of us wish it was.

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He really made some lovely films. I think the best thing to honor him would not to let his life be defined by how it ended.

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Anonymous wrote:When someone with Rob Reiner's level of wealth and connections can't get help for his adult son, what chance do the rest of us have?

Addiction doesn't care about wealth and connections. You can have all the money in the world and still not be able to overcome addiction.

I'm the sister of an addict. My sister went to rehab 6 times before she was finally able to stay sober. It's been 7 years, but I don't think I'll ever be able to truly relax and not worry about her relapsing.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t every criminal mentally ill? Healthy people aren’t evil.

Not all criminals committed violent crime and only a small percentage are 'evil'.

Look up the education level of those incarcerated - many didn't even finish 8th grade. Look up the neighborhoods they grew up in. Look up how many ACEs they had. The factors that lead to incarceration for many start young, and well before the decision making age.

Mental illness is very prevalent and also often goes undiagnosed and undetected and untreated in homes and neighborhoods where chaos, emotional and behavioral dysregulation, impulsivity, poor insight and judgment etc are simply part of life.

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17 rehabs before age 21, the first at 15