2 found dead at Rob Reiner's house; possibly Rob and his wife

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious how his lawyer is being paid. Probably doing it for the publicity because I doubt Nick has any money of his own and doubt any family member would pay for it.

I’m sure his siblings aren’t wholesale abandoning him…because they know he was mentally ill.

But I’m sure the parents had a trust and plan in place with a trustee to handle whatever happened with their troubled son. That sort of planning ahead is standard when people with money have a troubled or disabled adult child. You don’t leave them money directly, and you don’t leave it up to siblings. There’s a trusted trustee in place.

I would never forgive my brother if he killed my parents and I certainly wouldn't be contributing to his defense fund. We have no idea how the Reiner siblings are reacting to this. And hopefully the trust has a clause about slaying and not being able to collect on the estate.

No one asks for or wants to have severe mental illness related to brain chemistry and neurological wiring. Go visit group homes with kids and adults with the severest manifestations of low cognitive functioning, autism, physical abnomalities, and mental illness. Nick was displaying disturbing behaviors as a very young child, and I'm sure his siblings want him to remain in a restricted environment, prison or otherwise, but will provide needed help and support. It's a heartbreaking situation.

No shit. The cops have done well visits on my brother to confiscate his guns. My other sibling and I don't talk to him. We're surely don't want to give him much needed love and support. He's brought nothing but heartbreak and misery to our family. He is rightly cut off from us and our families for their safety. Cutting off toxic mentally ill family members is pretty common.

You are indeed fortunate to have not inherited the genetic makeup that he did. Hope your kids don't either. No one asks to be born with problematic genes.

I am not my brother's keeper. Ask Ryan Lanza how he felt about his brother Adam. This yarn you're spinning about families feeling nothing but pity and deep understanding for their troubled relatives isn't realistic.

I'll repeat...you are indeed fortunate to not be the one who inherited that genetic makeup. Hope your kids avoid it, too. I have a cousin with schizophrenia who has spent his entire adult life in a private hospital/group home run by nuns. I understand the pain and frustration, as do my cousin's two sisters.

What exactly is your point? That families lovingly surround and protect these other family members? Obviously they do not.

I'm just trying to say that it's painful but support is needed. Not saying that family members necessarily feel loving towards these very problematic siblings.

People can only give so much. Often these people are parasites demanding more and more "support" eventually many say "enough" and move on.

I read a comment that when dealing with an addict that cannot (or will not) recover, it’s either enable or abandon.

And then innocent people can get killed on public transit?

Are you implying the family members are NOT innocent?

Not at all. Just saying that innocent people who are not related to the mentally ill person can get killed on public transit. We need to bring back longterm hospitalization.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious how his lawyer is being paid. Probably doing it for the publicity because I doubt Nick has any money of his own and doubt any family member would pay for it.

I’m sure his siblings aren’t wholesale abandoning him…because they know he was mentally ill.

But I’m sure the parents had a trust and plan in place with a trustee to handle whatever happened with their troubled son. That sort of planning ahead is standard when people with money have a troubled or disabled adult child. You don’t leave them money directly, and you don’t leave it up to siblings. There’s a trusted trustee in place.

I would never forgive my brother if he killed my parents and I certainly wouldn't be contributing to his defense fund. We have no idea how the Reiner siblings are reacting to this. And hopefully the trust has a clause about slaying and not being able to collect on the estate.

No one asks for or wants to have severe mental illness related to brain chemistry and neurological wiring. Go visit group homes with kids and adults with the severest manifestations of low cognitive functioning, autism, physical abnomalities, and mental illness. Nick was displaying disturbing behaviors as a very young child, and I'm sure his siblings want him to remain in a restricted environment, prison or otherwise, but will provide needed help and support. It's a heartbreaking situation.

No shit. The cops have done well visits on my brother to confiscate his guns. My other sibling and I don't talk to him. We're surely don't want to give him much needed love and support. He's brought nothing but heartbreak and misery to our family. He is rightly cut off from us and our families for their safety. Cutting off toxic mentally ill family members is pretty common.

You are indeed fortunate to have not inherited the genetic makeup that he did. Hope your kids don't either. No one asks to be born with problematic genes.

I am not my brother's keeper. Ask Ryan Lanza how he felt about his brother Adam. This yarn you're spinning about families feeling nothing but pity and deep understanding for their troubled relatives isn't realistic.

Their parents did not gi e appropriate care and support to Adam. Leaving him alone in a basrment with guns was a terrible, careless way of "parenting."

When you have a sibling prone to violence your obligation is first and foremost to your own family, spouse, children, etc. Not your unpredictable volatile brother. That the Reiner siblings will stand by their brother remains to be seen.

THIS. Will you PLEASE go tell that to the people over on the Family Estrangement thread https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1304734.page
The people piling on the guilt seem to think the same does not apply when you have a parent prone to violence who is unpredictable and volatile.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious how his lawyer is being paid. Probably doing it for the publicity because I doubt Nick has any money of his own and doubt any family member would pay for it.

I’m sure his siblings aren’t wholesale abandoning him…because they know he was mentally ill.

But I’m sure the parents had a trust and plan in place with a trustee to handle whatever happened with their troubled son. That sort of planning ahead is standard when people with money have a troubled or disabled adult child. You don’t leave them money directly, and you don’t leave it up to siblings. There’s a trusted trustee in place.

I would never forgive my brother if he killed my parents and I certainly wouldn't be contributing to his defense fund. We have no idea how the Reiner siblings are reacting to this. And hopefully the trust has a clause about slaying and not being able to collect on the estate.

No one asks for or wants to have severe mental illness related to brain chemistry and neurological wiring. Go visit group homes with kids and adults with the severest manifestations of low cognitive functioning, autism, physical abnomalities, and mental illness. Nick was displaying disturbing behaviors as a very young child, and I'm sure his siblings want him to remain in a restricted environment, prison or otherwise, but will provide needed help and support. It's a heartbreaking situation.

No shit. The cops have done well visits on my brother to confiscate his guns. My other sibling and I don't talk to him. We're surely don't want to give him much needed love and support. He's brought nothing but heartbreak and misery to our family. He is rightly cut off from us and our families for their safety. Cutting off toxic mentally ill family members is pretty common.

You are indeed fortunate to have not inherited the genetic makeup that he did. Hope your kids don't either. No one asks to be born with problematic genes.

I am not my brother's keeper. Ask Ryan Lanza how he felt about his brother Adam. This yarn you're spinning about families feeling nothing but pity and deep understanding for their troubled relatives isn't realistic.

Their parents did not gi e appropriate care and support to Adam. Leaving him alone in a basrment with guns was a terrible, careless way of "parenting."

When you have a sibling prone to violence your obligation is first and foremost to your own family, spouse, children, etc. Not your unpredictable volatile brother. That the Reiner siblings will stand by their brother remains to be seen.

THIS. Will you PLEASE go tell that to the people over on the Family Estrangement thread https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1304734.page
The people piling on the guilt seem to think the same does not apply when you have a parent prone to violence who is unpredictable and volatile.

If they want me to take care of my brother then I will demand they take care of their aging Boomer parents they can't stand. Fair is fair.

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Corpse picking.

Please let this rest.

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Anonymous wrote:One consequence of their murder is that their son will finally sober up. In jail for life.

Plenty of street drugs are available in jail.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious how his lawyer is being paid. Probably doing it for the publicity because I doubt Nick has any money of his own and doubt any family member would pay for it.

I’m sure his siblings aren’t wholesale abandoning him…because they know he was mentally ill.

But I’m sure the parents had a trust and plan in place with a trustee to handle whatever happened with their troubled son. That sort of planning ahead is standard when people with money have a troubled or disabled adult child. You don’t leave them money directly, and you don’t leave it up to siblings. There’s a trusted trustee in place.

I would never forgive my brother if he killed my parents and I certainly wouldn't be contributing to his defense fund. We have no idea how the Reiner siblings are reacting to this. And hopefully the trust has a clause about slaying and not being able to collect on the estate.

No one asks for or wants to have severe mental illness related to brain chemistry and neurological wiring. Go visit group homes with kids and adults with the severest manifestations of low cognitive functioning, autism, physical abnomalities, and mental illness. Nick was displaying disturbing behaviors as a very young child, and I'm sure his siblings want him to remain in a restricted environment, prison or otherwise, but will provide needed help and support. It's a heartbreaking situation.

No shit. The cops have done well visits on my brother to confiscate his guns. My other sibling and I don't talk to him. We're surely don't want to give him much needed love and support. He's brought nothing but heartbreak and misery to our family. He is rightly cut off from us and our families for their safety. Cutting off toxic mentally ill family members is pretty common.

You are indeed fortunate to have not inherited the genetic makeup that he did. Hope your kids don't either. No one asks to be born with problematic genes.

I am not my brother's keeper. Ask Ryan Lanza how he felt about his brother Adam. This yarn you're spinning about families feeling nothing but pity and deep understanding for their troubled relatives isn't realistic.

I'll repeat...you are indeed fortunate to not be the one who inherited that genetic makeup. Hope your kids avoid it, too. I have a cousin with schizophrenia who has spent his entire adult life in a private hospital/group home run by nuns. I understand the pain and frustration, as do my cousin's two sisters.

What exactly is your point? That families lovingly surround and protect these other family members? Obviously they do not.

I'm just trying to say that it's painful but support is needed. Not saying that family members necessarily feel loving towards these very problematic siblings.

People can only give so much. Often these people are parasites demanding more and more "support" eventually many say "enough" and move on.

NP. Weird to call a family member with a mental illness a ‘parasite’. You have no sympathy? Fwiw I’ve noticed that siblings who ‘hate’ their family member with a mental illness often seem to exhibit elements of it themselves…

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Anonymous wrote:One consequence of their murder is that their son will finally sober up. In jail for life.

What makes you think people in jail or prison are sober?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious how his lawyer is being paid. Probably doing it for the publicity because I doubt Nick has any money of his own and doubt any family member would pay for it.

I’m sure his siblings aren’t wholesale abandoning him…because they know he was mentally ill.

But I’m sure the parents had a trust and plan in place with a trustee to handle whatever happened with their troubled son. That sort of planning ahead is standard when people with money have a troubled or disabled adult child. You don’t leave them money directly, and you don’t leave it up to siblings. There’s a trusted trustee in place.

I would never forgive my brother if he killed my parents and I certainly wouldn't be contributing to his defense fund. We have no idea how the Reiner siblings are reacting to this. And hopefully the trust has a clause about slaying and not being able to collect on the estate.

No one asks for or wants to have severe mental illness related to brain chemistry and neurological wiring. Go visit group homes with kids and adults with the severest manifestations of low cognitive functioning, autism, physical abnomalities, and mental illness. Nick was displaying disturbing behaviors as a very young child, and I'm sure his siblings want him to remain in a restricted environment, prison or otherwise, but will provide needed help and support. It's a heartbreaking situation.

No shit. The cops have done well visits on my brother to confiscate his guns. My other sibling and I don't talk to him. We're surely don't want to give him much needed love and support. He's brought nothing but heartbreak and misery to our family. He is rightly cut off from us and our families for their safety. Cutting off toxic mentally ill family members is pretty common.

You are indeed fortunate to have not inherited the genetic makeup that he did. Hope your kids don't either. No one asks to be born with problematic genes.

I am not my brother's keeper. Ask Ryan Lanza how he felt about his brother Adam. This yarn you're spinning about families feeling nothing but pity and deep understanding for their troubled relatives isn't realistic.

I'll repeat...you are indeed fortunate to not be the one who inherited that genetic makeup. Hope your kids avoid it, too. I have a cousin with schizophrenia who has spent his entire adult life in a private hospital/group home run by nuns. I understand the pain and frustration, as do my cousin's two sisters.

What exactly is your point? That families lovingly surround and protect these other family members? Obviously they do not.

I'm just trying to say that it's painful but support is needed. Not saying that family members necessarily feel loving towards these very problematic siblings.

People can only give so much. Often these people are parasites demanding more and more "support" eventually many say "enough" and move on.

NP. Weird to call a family member with a mental illness a ‘parasite’. You have no sympathy? Fwiw I’ve noticed that siblings who ‘hate’ their family member with a mental illness often seem to exhibit elements of it themselves…

Said like someone who has never had a sibling ask them for money, a place to stay, help asking parents for same, a job, a reference (even when you know they are not reliable), over and over while continuing to relapse and get in trouble with the law.

Said like someone who has never had to make the hard choice of telling their mentally ill and/or addicted sibling that they cannot come in the house anymore because their behavior scares, upsets, and confuses your kids.

Said like someone who has never received phone calls from hospitals and police stations at 3am and braced themselves mentally for the news their sibling is dead, or has killed someone else.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious how his lawyer is being paid. Probably doing it for the publicity because I doubt Nick has any money of his own and doubt any family member would pay for it.

I’m sure his siblings aren’t wholesale abandoning him…because they know he was mentally ill.

But I’m sure the parents had a trust and plan in place with a trustee to handle whatever happened with their troubled son. That sort of planning ahead is standard when people with money have a troubled or disabled adult child. You don’t leave them money directly, and you don’t leave it up to siblings. There’s a trusted trustee in place.

I would never forgive my brother if he killed my parents and I certainly wouldn't be contributing to his defense fund. We have no idea how the Reiner siblings are reacting to this. And hopefully the trust has a clause about slaying and not being able to collect on the estate.

No one asks for or wants to have severe mental illness related to brain chemistry and neurological wiring. Go visit group homes with kids and adults with the severest manifestations of low cognitive functioning, autism, physical abnomalities, and mental illness. Nick was displaying disturbing behaviors as a very young child, and I'm sure his siblings want him to remain in a restricted environment, prison or otherwise, but will provide needed help and support. It's a heartbreaking situation.

No shit. The cops have done well visits on my brother to confiscate his guns. My other sibling and I don't talk to him. We're surely don't want to give him much needed love and support. He's brought nothing but heartbreak and misery to our family. He is rightly cut off from us and our families for their safety. Cutting off toxic mentally ill family members is pretty common.

You are indeed fortunate to have not inherited the genetic makeup that he did. Hope your kids don't either. No one asks to be born with problematic genes.

I am not my brother's keeper. Ask Ryan Lanza how he felt about his brother Adam. This yarn you're spinning about families feeling nothing but pity and deep understanding for their troubled relatives isn't realistic.

I'll repeat...you are indeed fortunate to not be the one who inherited that genetic makeup. Hope your kids avoid it, too. I have a cousin with schizophrenia who has spent his entire adult life in a private hospital/group home run by nuns. I understand the pain and frustration, as do my cousin's two sisters.

What exactly is your point? That families lovingly surround and protect these other family members? Obviously they do not.

I'm just trying to say that it's painful but support is needed. Not saying that family members necessarily feel loving towards these very problematic siblings.

People can only give so much. Often these people are parasites demanding more and more "support" eventually many say "enough" and move on.

NP. Weird to call a family member with a mental illness a ‘parasite’. You have no sympathy? Fwiw I’ve noticed that siblings who ‘hate’ their family member with a mental illness often seem to exhibit elements of it themselves…

Said like someone who has never had a sibling ask them for money, a place to stay, help asking parents for same, a job, a reference (even when you know they are not reliable), over and over while continuing to relapse and get in trouble with the law.

Said like someone who has never had to make the hard choice of telling their mentally ill and/or addicted sibling that they cannot come in the house anymore because their behavior scares, upsets, and confuses your kids.

Said like someone who has never received phone calls from hospitals and police stations at 3am and braced themselves mentally for the news their sibling is dead, or has killed someone else.

Life can be really, really hard. I have a friend with two adult sons with severe manifestations of autism and another friend whose adult son's near drowning left him unable to even turn over. The parents of these kids basically spend 24/7 involved with their care, can rarely go out because babysitters don't want to take care of them, and worry about what will happen to their kids after the parents die. They don't get to just ignore them. Mental and physical health challenges are a never ending worry.

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My sibling has schizophrenia that went undiagnosed for decades. Drugs, personality, being entitled/coddled and also highly intelligent/gifted when younger masked what was actually a disordered mind. This whole episode has been traumatic on a second hand basis, even though my sibling is not violent.

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Anonymous wrote:My sibling has schizophrenia that went undiagnosed for decades. Drugs, personality, being entitled/coddled and also highly intelligent/gifted when younger masked what was actually a disordered mind. This whole episode has been traumatic on a second hand basis, even though my sibling is not violent.

same. found this horrible news really triggering.

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Anonymous wrote:My sibling has schizophrenia that went undiagnosed for decades. Drugs, personality, being entitled/coddled and also highly intelligent/gifted when younger masked what was actually a disordered mind. This whole episode has been traumatic on a second hand basis, even though my sibling is not violent.

I'm so sorry and know just how hard it can be. We have one individual with schizophrenia and two with autism in our extended family. Incredibly challenging to keep all three of them in a safe environment.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious how his lawyer is being paid. Probably doing it for the publicity because I doubt Nick has any money of his own and doubt any family member would pay for it.

I’m sure his siblings aren’t wholesale abandoning him…because they know he was mentally ill.

But I’m sure the parents had a trust and plan in place with a trustee to handle whatever happened with their troubled son. That sort of planning ahead is standard when people with money have a troubled or disabled adult child. You don’t leave them money directly, and you don’t leave it up to siblings. There’s a trusted trustee in place.

I would never forgive my brother if he killed my parents and I certainly wouldn't be contributing to his defense fund. We have no idea how the Reiner siblings are reacting to this. And hopefully the trust has a clause about slaying and not being able to collect on the estate.

No one asks for or wants to have severe mental illness related to brain chemistry and neurological wiring. Go visit group homes with kids and adults with the severest manifestations of low cognitive functioning, autism, physical abnomalities, and mental illness. Nick was displaying disturbing behaviors as a very young child, and I'm sure his siblings want him to remain in a restricted environment, prison or otherwise, but will provide needed help and support. It's a heartbreaking situation.

No shit. The cops have done well visits on my brother to confiscate his guns. My other sibling and I don't talk to him. We're surely don't want to give him much needed love and support. He's brought nothing but heartbreak and misery to our family. He is rightly cut off from us and our families for their safety. Cutting off toxic mentally ill family members is pretty common.

You are indeed fortunate to have not inherited the genetic makeup that he did. Hope your kids don't either. No one asks to be born with problematic genes.

I am not my brother's keeper. Ask Ryan Lanza how he felt about his brother Adam. This yarn you're spinning about families feeling nothing but pity and deep understanding for their troubled relatives isn't realistic.

I'll repeat...you are indeed fortunate to not be the one who inherited that genetic makeup. Hope your kids avoid it, too. I have a cousin with schizophrenia who has spent his entire adult life in a private hospital/group home run by nuns. I understand the pain and frustration, as do my cousin's two sisters.

What exactly is your point? That families lovingly surround and protect these other family members? Obviously they do not.

I'm just trying to say that it's painful but support is needed. Not saying that family members necessarily feel loving towards these very problematic siblings.

People can only give so much. Often these people are parasites demanding more and more "support" eventually many say "enough" and move on.

NP. Weird to call a family member with a mental illness a ‘parasite’. You have no sympathy? Fwiw I’ve noticed that siblings who ‘hate’ their family member with a mental illness often seem to exhibit elements of it themselves…

Why should i feel sympathy for a gun hoarding underemployed man with multiple DUIs who blames everyone else for his problems? Do you like drunk drivers?

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I have an older sibling that has been in and out of sobriety for 30+ years. It’s a cross for the whole family to bear. Besides the drama and crisis that she seems to always have swirling around her, it is very challenging to be around her. I love her but I can’t tolerate much time with her - it’s unpleasant and annoying.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious how his lawyer is being paid. Probably doing it for the publicity because I doubt Nick has any money of his own and doubt any family member would pay for it.

I’m sure his siblings aren’t wholesale abandoning him…because they know he was mentally ill.

But I’m sure the parents had a trust and plan in place with a trustee to handle whatever happened with their troubled son. That sort of planning ahead is standard when people with money have a troubled or disabled adult child. You don’t leave them money directly, and you don’t leave it up to siblings. There’s a trusted trustee in place.

I would never forgive my brother if he killed my parents and I certainly wouldn't be contributing to his defense fund. We have no idea how the Reiner siblings are reacting to this. And hopefully the trust has a clause about slaying and not being able to collect on the estate.

No one asks for or wants to have severe mental illness related to brain chemistry and neurological wiring. Go visit group homes with kids and adults with the severest manifestations of low cognitive functioning, autism, physical abnomalities, and mental illness. Nick was displaying disturbing behaviors as a very young child, and I'm sure his siblings want him to remain in a restricted environment, prison or otherwise, but will provide needed help and support. It's a heartbreaking situation.

No shit. The cops have done well visits on my brother to confiscate his guns. My other sibling and I don't talk to him. We're surely don't want to give him much needed love and support. He's brought nothing but heartbreak and misery to our family. He is rightly cut off from us and our families for their safety. Cutting off toxic mentally ill family members is pretty common.

You are indeed fortunate to have not inherited the genetic makeup that he did. Hope your kids don't either. No one asks to be born with problematic genes.

I am not my brother's keeper. Ask Ryan Lanza how he felt about his brother Adam. This yarn you're spinning about families feeling nothing but pity and deep understanding for their troubled relatives isn't realistic.

I'll repeat...you are indeed fortunate to not be the one who inherited that genetic makeup. Hope your kids avoid it, too. I have a cousin with schizophrenia who has spent his entire adult life in a private hospital/group home run by nuns. I understand the pain and frustration, as do my cousin's two sisters.

What exactly is your point? That families lovingly surround and protect these other family members? Obviously they do not.

I'm just trying to say that it's painful but support is needed. Not saying that family members necessarily feel loving towards these very problematic siblings.

People can only give so much. Often these people are parasites demanding more and more "support" eventually many say "enough" and move on.

NP. Weird to call a family member with a mental illness a ‘parasite’. You have no sympathy? Fwiw I’ve noticed that siblings who ‘hate’ their family member with a mental illness often seem to exhibit elements of it themselves…

Said like someone who has never had a sibling ask them for money, a place to stay, help asking parents for same, a job, a reference (even when you know they are not reliable), over and over while continuing to relapse and get in trouble with the law.

Said like someone who has never had to make the hard choice of telling their mentally ill and/or addicted sibling that they cannot come in the house anymore because their behavior scares, upsets, and confuses your kids.

Said like someone who has never received phone calls from hospitals and police stations at 3am and braced themselves mentally for the news their sibling is dead, or has killed someone else.

Life can be really, really hard. I have a friend with two adult sons with severe manifestations of autism and another friend whose adult son's near drowning left him unable to even turn over. The parents of these kids basically spend 24/7 involved with their care, can rarely go out because babysitters don't want to take care of them, and worry about what will happen to their kids after the parents die. They don't get to just ignore them. Mental and physical health challenges are a never ending worry.

I’ve spent my career in education, law and now healthcare and I’ve seen so many really sad stories like this.

It’s been a solace to me as regards never having had children myself - I lament missing out, but I realize my lamentations are over the ideal we all wish for. What far too many parents get is a lifetime of grief - if they’re lucky enough to avoid the end that Rob and Michelle Reiner faced.

Kids are the greatest crapshoot in life and you can’t really divorce them. Some parents will totally abandon their kids but most don’t. I’m well into middle age and I know a number of people whose lives are a constant drama and stress, coping with the serious mental health or addiction issues that their kids suffer with. There is (fraught) love, but very little joy in such a life.

May the Reiners rest in peace now.