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Anonymous wrote:Thank you, OP!!

My kid's scores are surprising too. Highest on nonverbal, which is traditionally a family weakness (96). 90% on verbal and 93 on quant. Composite score 128.

Why on earth are these baffling? 90s aren’t weakness. Someone is saying their kid is in the 50s and you come in saying “me too!” Is it just to make the other feel bad?

No, not at all. I'm just saying that historically my children's nonverbal scores are their lowest.

It seems that NGAT wasn't either designed or administered properly. Looking at the other posters' comments, it seems that the score discrepancy between categories is more than one should normally expect.

NP here. Also a composite of 128 isn't that good. My 3rd grade DC was rejected from full time AAP with that score on Cogat and NNAT. So, if you're hoping your child will get into AAP, it is s disappointing score.

You know what, it isn't. But my oldest got in with a score of 124 on the strength of his teacher's gushing recommendation and my referral, so I'm hoping the magic will work again.

Same, current AAP 3rd grader got a 124 Cogat and I thought that was the end for them but theyre in and thriving so far (Some 3s, mostly 4s on the report card). Don't envy this cohort with the NGAT, seems confusing but maybe you won't need 98++ percentiles this time around.

We have perfect test scores but mostly 3s in the report card. Does that hurt the chances?

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Anonymous wrote:Thank you, OP!!

My kid's scores are surprising too. Highest on nonverbal, which is traditionally a family weakness (96). 90% on verbal and 93 on quant. Composite score 128.

Why on earth are these baffling? 90s aren’t weakness. Someone is saying their kid is in the 50s and you come in saying “me too!” Is it just to make the other feel bad?

No, not at all. I'm just saying that historically my children's nonverbal scores are their lowest.

It seems that NGAT wasn't either designed or administered properly. Looking at the other posters' comments, it seems that the score discrepancy between categories is more than one should normally expect.

NP here. Also a composite of 128 isn't that good. My 3rd grade DC was rejected from full time AAP with that score on Cogat and NNAT. So, if you're hoping your child will get into AAP, it is s disappointing score.

You know what, it isn't. But my oldest got in with a score of 124 on the strength of his teacher's gushing recommendation and my referral, so I'm hoping the magic will work again.

Same, current AAP 3rd grader got a 124 Cogat and I thought that was the end for them but theyre in and thriving so far (Some 3s, mostly 4s on the report card). Don't envy this cohort with the NGAT, seems confusing but maybe you won't need 98++ percentiles this time around.

We have perfect test scores but mostly 3s in the report card. Does that hurt the chances?

Perfect? As in a 175?

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Universal Screener emails are launching now! Got ours a little while ago.

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Anonymous wrote:Thank you, OP!!

My kid's scores are surprising too. Highest on nonverbal, which is traditionally a family weakness (96). 90% on verbal and 93 on quant. Composite score 128.

Why on earth are these baffling? 90s aren’t weakness. Someone is saying their kid is in the 50s and you come in saying “me too!” Is it just to make the other feel bad?

No, not at all. I'm just saying that historically my children's nonverbal scores are their lowest.

It seems that NGAT wasn't either designed or administered properly. Looking at the other posters' comments, it seems that the score discrepancy between categories is more than one should normally expect.

NP here. Also a composite of 128 isn't that good. My 3rd grade DC was rejected from full time AAP with that score on Cogat and NNAT. So, if you're hoping your child will get into AAP, it is s disappointing score.

You know what, it isn't. But my oldest got in with a score of 124 on the strength of his teacher's gushing recommendation and my referral, so I'm hoping the magic will work again.

Same, current AAP 3rd grader got a 124 Cogat and I thought that was the end for them but theyre in and thriving so far (Some 3s, mostly 4s on the report card). Don't envy this cohort with the NGAT, seems confusing but maybe you won't need 98++ percentiles this time around.

We have perfect test scores but mostly 3s in the report card. Does that hurt the chances?

I don't think there are any perfect test scores (175) on the current NGAT.

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Anonymous wrote:Is 146 good score. NV 99, V95, Q99…what if teacher is not motivated to submit good packet.

AART and 1st grade teacher are involved in the packet alongside 2nd - or they were at our school (our base is a mid-range center)

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Anonymous wrote:Is there any cut off score..? We have composite score of 121, quant at 95 percentile, verbal at 87 and non verbal at 75.

There is a cut off for automatically having a packet made. It's top 10% of your school right now. Historically kids well below that cut off will get in and kids well above that cut off (at any school) will not, based on holistic factors. If AAP sounds like a match for your kid, parent refer.

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My DD was in last year with a 127 NNAT and 135 CoGAT. She is doing great in AAP. I am pretty confident the HOPE matters more than the scores.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD was in last year with a 127 NNAT and 135 CoGAT. She is doing great in AAP. I am pretty confident the HOPE matters more than the scores. [/quote

Those are solid NNAT and CoGAT scores, though.

For the very competitive elementary schools, the truth is you need BOTH good test scores AND a good HOPE. At good base schools, they have to narrow it down somehow and there are enough kids with the "whole" package to fill the class. At the less competitive schools, this is less true.

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Anonymous wrote:NV >99 V 96 Q >99 T164

My DC has these numbers, but Total Score is 149! How is that TS different when the subtests scores are the same?

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Anonymous wrote:NV >99 V 96 Q >99 T164

My DC has these numbers, but Total Score is 149! How is that TS different when the subtests scores are the same?

The 99 percentile covers a long range of points. So the other kid has more points yet both kids are incredibly awesome.

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Anonymous wrote:NV >99 V 96 Q >99 T164

My DC has these numbers, but Total Score is 149! How is that TS different when the subtests scores are the same?

The scores are not the same, only the percentiles. Once you get to the >99 percentile for sub-areas, the score can really be anything from 130s all the way to 160s.

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Anonymous wrote:NV >99 V 96 Q >99 T164

My DC has these numbers, but Total Score is 149! How is that TS different when the subtests scores are the same?

Age norming.

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Anonymous wrote:NV >99 V 96 Q >99 T164

My DC has these numbers, but Total Score is 149! How is that TS different when the subtests scores are the same?

Age norming.

Age norming on these tests would make sense, but I don't think it does age norm. Is there anything that says they do?

The raw scores in the 99th percentile were likely different.

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Anonymous wrote:NV >99 V 96 Q >99 T164

My DC has these numbers, but Total Score is 149! How is that TS different when the subtests scores are the same?

Age norming.

Age norming on these tests would make sense, but I don't think it does age norm. Is there anything that says they do?

The raw scores in the 99th percentile were likely different.

The reporting FCPS uses is not age normed--they use a national comparison sample of all students in the same grade. Any differences can be attributed to raw scores.

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Anonymous wrote:Universal Screener emails are launching now! Got ours a little while ago.

Is it sent by school or AAP office? Have not received any..