Third round options on Woodward Boundary study

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting to see the popularity of option F. This (along with B) is the big change option for my neighborhood — ESS, currently zoned for Blair and could move to Northwood. I’m not foaming at the mouth about it but I’d prefer to stay Blair.

Yeah I'm an ESS family and agree with you. I think Northwood will be a fine school but I hate the idea of middle college. It feels like it kind of destroys both the high school and the college experience. I hope with the larger school there will be enough advanced kids not doing MC that my kids can do normal high school and still have advanced classes. So I hope we stay Blair, but we'll make the best of Northwood. I was upset about the possibility of being sent to SSIMS and then having it be closed and have to be bussed for middle school so I'm glad that seems like it won't happen.

+1 I am a potential Woodward family. (It's extremely likely I will be Woodward after the latest options. Only a fleeting hope remains of WJ). Reason why I am opposed to Woodward is that it has a arts program and that Middle College/ MC program. You articulate the point correctly. It feels like it destroys both high school and college experience. They should just offer a standard high school with some advanced classes for kids who need it, and music or painting elective for kids who want those.

I'm at the point where I need to focus on fighting the regional model very strongly. All attention goes to that.

Very few do middle college. How is an arts program bad?

You make my point. Very few do MC. But that is the option provided for advanced learners at Woodward.

Arts is a waste of time. It’s a mere hobby that they are allocating towards six high schools. They should focus on reading, writing and math proficiency in MCPS generally, not arts.

I agree with you on NOT liking Middle College for the reasons you stated, but there's no reason to believe Woodward would not offer AP classes to its students even with the MC program being there. In fact, MCPS is "promising" as much with this program update.

+1. If you don't like the regional programs, just don't sign up for them.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting to see the popularity of option F. This (along with B) is the big change option for my neighborhood — ESS, currently zoned for Blair and could move to Northwood. I’m not foaming at the mouth about it but I’d prefer to stay Blair.

Yeah I'm an ESS family and agree with you. I think Northwood will be a fine school but I hate the idea of middle college. It feels like it kind of destroys both the high school and the college experience. I hope with the larger school there will be enough advanced kids not doing MC that my kids can do normal high school and still have advanced classes. So I hope we stay Blair, but we'll make the best of Northwood. I was upset about the possibility of being sent to SSIMS and then having it be closed and have to be bussed for middle school so I'm glad that seems like it won't happen.

+1 I am a potential Woodward family. (It's extremely likely I will be Woodward after the latest options. Only a fleeting hope remains of WJ). Reason why I am opposed to Woodward is that it has a arts program and that Middle College/ MC program. You articulate the point correctly. It feels like it destroys both high school and college experience. They should just offer a standard high school with some advanced classes for kids who need it, and music or painting elective for kids who want those.

I'm at the point where I need to focus on fighting the regional model very strongly. All attention goes to that.

Very few do middle college. How is an arts program bad?

You make my point. Very few do MC. But that is the option provided for advanced learners at Woodward.

Arts is a waste of time. It’s a mere hobby that they are allocating towards six high schools. They should focus on reading, writing and math proficiency in MCPS generally, not arts.

I agree with you on NOT liking Middle College for the reasons you stated, but there's no reason to believe Woodward would not offer AP classes to its students even with the MC program being there. In fact, MCPS is "promising" as much with this program update.

Where are these promises in writing? Enforceable? I’ve learned not to rely on that speculation.

Clearly they want advanced learners from Woodward to go to Wheaton for math/science, Kennedy for IB, and WJ for APEX program. Woodward will be for the kids well do drama, play the flute and like to paint. If you don’t get into a program at the other schools in the region and are zoned to Woodward (or don’t want to go to those schools) you will be relegated to Montgomery College classes. That much is clear.

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Anonymous wrote:zoned for WJ or Woodward, depending on model, current WJ

It seems like F does a good job, compared to others, of balancing capacity, FARMS and EML. I also like that it keeps GPES together. For my neighborhood proximity is also fine. So overall leaning towards F being my top pick.

My question regarding proximity: how do Wheaton Woods families feel about the longer drive to Woodward vs current drive to Wheaton?

Also, overall what do people think of F?

Who cares about GPES being kept together. Us at SSIM are being shut out…they’re closing our school. Say no to F. It deserves an F grade.

Your neighboring KPES isn’t being kept together and you don’t see them nagging as much as GPES

ok, ok
that is why I asked what others think

It is hard to see the nuances and impacts on all schools and easiest to see impact on one's own neighborhood

also it is valid to care about split articulation even if you weigh other factors and impacts higher. no need to be hostile

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting to see the popularity of option F. This (along with B) is the big change option for my neighborhood — ESS, currently zoned for Blair and could move to Northwood. I’m not foaming at the mouth about it but I’d prefer to stay Blair.

Yeah I'm an ESS family and agree with you. I think Northwood will be a fine school but I hate the idea of middle college. It feels like it kind of destroys both the high school and the college experience. I hope with the larger school there will be enough advanced kids not doing MC that my kids can do normal high school and still have advanced classes. So I hope we stay Blair, but we'll make the best of Northwood. I was upset about the possibility of being sent to SSIMS and then having it be closed and have to be bussed for middle school so I'm glad that seems like it won't happen.

+1 I am a potential Woodward family. (It's extremely likely I will be Woodward after the latest options. Only a fleeting hope remains of WJ). Reason why I am opposed to Woodward is that it has a arts program and that Middle College/ MC program. You articulate the point correctly. It feels like it destroys both high school and college experience. They should just offer a standard high school with some advanced classes for kids who need it, and music or painting elective for kids who want those.

I'm at the point where I need to focus on fighting the regional model very strongly. All attention goes to that.

Very few do middle college. How is an arts program bad?

You make my point. Very few do MC. But that is the option provided for advanced learners at Woodward.

Arts is a waste of time. It’s a mere hobby that they are allocating towards six high schools. They should focus on reading, writing and math proficiency in MCPS generally, not arts.

I agree with you on NOT liking Middle College for the reasons you stated, but there's no reason to believe Woodward would not offer AP classes to its students even with the MC program being there. In fact, MCPS is "promising" as much with this program update.

Where are these promises in writing? Enforceable? I’ve learned not to rely on that speculation.

Clearly they want advanced learners from Woodward to go to Wheaton for math/science, Kennedy for IB, and WJ for APEX program. Woodward will be for the kids well do drama, play the flute and like to paint. If you don’t get into a program at the other schools in the region and are zoned to Woodward (or don’t want to go to those schools) you will be relegated to Montgomery College classes. That much is clear.

No, that is not in any way clear.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting to see the popularity of option F. This (along with B) is the big change option for my neighborhood — ESS, currently zoned for Blair and could move to Northwood. I’m not foaming at the mouth about it but I’d prefer to stay Blair.

Yeah I'm an ESS family and agree with you. I think Northwood will be a fine school but I hate the idea of middle college. It feels like it kind of destroys both the high school and the college experience. I hope with the larger school there will be enough advanced kids not doing MC that my kids can do normal high school and still have advanced classes. So I hope we stay Blair, but we'll make the best of Northwood. I was upset about the possibility of being sent to SSIMS and then having it be closed and have to be bussed for middle school so I'm glad that seems like it won't happen.

+1 I am a potential Woodward family. (It's extremely likely I will be Woodward after the latest options. Only a fleeting hope remains of WJ). Reason why I am opposed to Woodward is that it has a arts program and that Middle College/ MC program. You articulate the point correctly. It feels like it destroys both high school and college experience. They should just offer a standard high school with some advanced classes for kids who need it, and music or painting elective for kids who want those.

I'm at the point where I need to focus on fighting the regional model very strongly. All attention goes to that.

Very few do middle college. How is an arts program bad?

You make my point. Very few do MC. But that is the option provided for advanced learners at Woodward.

Arts is a waste of time. It’s a mere hobby that they are allocating towards six high schools. They should focus on reading, writing and math proficiency in MCPS generally, not arts.

I agree with you on NOT liking Middle College for the reasons you stated, but there's no reason to believe Woodward would not offer AP classes to its students even with the MC program being there. In fact, MCPS is "promising" as much with this program update.

+1. If you don't like the regional programs, just don't sign up for them.

DP . There will be much fewer AP classes at Woodward than WJ. That much is true.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting to see the popularity of option F. This (along with B) is the big change option for my neighborhood — ESS, currently zoned for Blair and could move to Northwood. I’m not foaming at the mouth about it but I’d prefer to stay Blair.

Yeah I'm an ESS family and agree with you. I think Northwood will be a fine school but I hate the idea of middle college. It feels like it kind of destroys both the high school and the college experience. I hope with the larger school there will be enough advanced kids not doing MC that my kids can do normal high school and still have advanced classes. So I hope we stay Blair, but we'll make the best of Northwood. I was upset about the possibility of being sent to SSIMS and then having it be closed and have to be bussed for middle school so I'm glad that seems like it won't happen.

+1 I am a potential Woodward family. (It's extremely likely I will be Woodward after the latest options. Only a fleeting hope remains of WJ). Reason why I am opposed to Woodward is that it has a arts program and that Middle College/ MC program. You articulate the point correctly. It feels like it destroys both high school and college experience. They should just offer a standard high school with some advanced classes for kids who need it, and music or painting elective for kids who want those.

I'm at the point where I need to focus on fighting the regional model very strongly. All attention goes to that.

Very few do middle college. How is an arts program bad?

You make my point. Very few do MC. But that is the option provided for advanced learners at Woodward.

Arts is a waste of time. It’s a mere hobby that they are allocating towards six high schools. They should focus on reading, writing and math proficiency in MCPS generally, not arts.

I agree with you on NOT liking Middle College for the reasons you stated, but there's no reason to believe Woodward would not offer AP classes to its students even with the MC program being there. In fact, MCPS is "promising" as much with this program update.

+1. If you don't like the regional programs, just don't sign up for them.

DP . There will be much fewer AP classes at Woodward than WJ. That much is true.

You have no idea which classes will be at Woodward, or the newly smaller WJ for that matter.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting to see the popularity of option F. This (along with B) is the big change option for my neighborhood — ESS, currently zoned for Blair and could move to Northwood. I’m not foaming at the mouth about it but I’d prefer to stay Blair.

Yeah I'm an ESS family and agree with you. I think Northwood will be a fine school but I hate the idea of middle college. It feels like it kind of destroys both the high school and the college experience. I hope with the larger school there will be enough advanced kids not doing MC that my kids can do normal high school and still have advanced classes. So I hope we stay Blair, but we'll make the best of Northwood. I was upset about the possibility of being sent to SSIMS and then having it be closed and have to be bussed for middle school so I'm glad that seems like it won't happen.

+1 I am a potential Woodward family. (It's extremely likely I will be Woodward after the latest options. Only a fleeting hope remains of WJ). Reason why I am opposed to Woodward is that it has a arts program and that Middle College/ MC program. You articulate the point correctly. It feels like it destroys both high school and college experience. They should just offer a standard high school with some advanced classes for kids who need it, and music or painting elective for kids who want those.

I'm at the point where I need to focus on fighting the regional model very strongly. All attention goes to that.

Very few do middle college. How is an arts program bad?

You make my point. Very few do MC. But that is the option provided for advanced learners at Woodward.

Arts is a waste of time. It’s a mere hobby that they are allocating towards six high schools. They should focus on reading, writing and math proficiency in MCPS generally, not arts.

I agree with you on NOT liking Middle College for the reasons you stated, but there's no reason to believe Woodward would not offer AP classes to its students even with the MC program being there. In fact, MCPS is "promising" as much with this program update.

+1. If you don't like the regional programs, just don't sign up for them.

DP . There will be much fewer AP classes at Woodward than WJ. That much is true.

Not clear. Most models have Luxmanor, GP, and Farmland going to
Woodward. There are a lot of
students who will elect AP classes, enabling the classes to run. Many will
choose to stay local rather than have a long commute to Wheaton or Kennedy.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting to see the popularity of option F. This (along with B) is the big change option for my neighborhood — ESS, currently zoned for Blair and could move to Northwood. I’m not foaming at the mouth about it but I’d prefer to stay Blair.

Yeah I'm an ESS family and agree with you. I think Northwood will be a fine school but I hate the idea of middle college. It feels like it kind of destroys both the high school and the college experience. I hope with the larger school there will be enough advanced kids not doing MC that my kids can do normal high school and still have advanced classes. So I hope we stay Blair, but we'll make the best of Northwood. I was upset about the possibility of being sent to SSIMS and then having it be closed and have to be bussed for middle school so I'm glad that seems like it won't happen.

+1 I am a potential Woodward family. (It's extremely likely I will be Woodward after the latest options. Only a fleeting hope remains of WJ). Reason why I am opposed to Woodward is that it has a arts program and that Middle College/ MC program. You articulate the point correctly. It feels like it destroys both high school and college experience. They should just offer a standard high school with some advanced classes for kids who need it, and music or painting elective for kids who want those.

I'm at the point where I need to focus on fighting the regional model very strongly. All attention goes to that.

Very few do middle college. How is an arts program bad?

You make my point. Very few do MC. But that is the option provided for advanced learners at Woodward.

Arts is a waste of time. It’s a mere hobby that they are allocating towards six high schools. They should focus on reading, writing and math proficiency in MCPS generally, not arts.

I agree with you on NOT liking Middle College for the reasons you stated, but there's no reason to believe Woodward would not offer AP classes to its students even with the MC program being there. In fact, MCPS is "promising" as much with this program update.

+1. If you don't like the regional programs, just don't sign up for them.

DP . There will be much fewer AP classes at Woodward than WJ. That much is true.

Not clear. Most models have Luxmanor, GP, and Farmland going to
Woodward. There are a lot of
students who will elect AP classes, enabling the classes to run. Many will
choose to stay local rather than have a long commute to Wheaton or Kennedy.

+1. Woodward doesn't even have a principal yet. A lot of this will depend on them and how they decide things.

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MCPS is saying there is a high demand for Middle College. Ok so let's assume for the sake of argument that this is true. Where is the demand concentrated in region 3? Is Woodward the optimal place for this?

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting to see the popularity of option F. This (along with B) is the big change option for my neighborhood — ESS, currently zoned for Blair and could move to Northwood. I’m not foaming at the mouth about it but I’d prefer to stay Blair.

Yeah I'm an ESS family and agree with you. I think Northwood will be a fine school but I hate the idea of middle college. It feels like it kind of destroys both the high school and the college experience. I hope with the larger school there will be enough advanced kids not doing MC that my kids can do normal high school and still have advanced classes. So I hope we stay Blair, but we'll make the best of Northwood. I was upset about the possibility of being sent to SSIMS and then having it be closed and have to be bussed for middle school so I'm glad that seems like it won't happen.

+1 I am a potential Woodward family. (It's extremely likely I will be Woodward after the latest options. Only a fleeting hope remains of WJ). Reason why I am opposed to Woodward is that it has a arts program and that Middle College/ MC program. You articulate the point correctly. It feels like it destroys both high school and college experience. They should just offer a standard high school with some advanced classes for kids who need it, and music or painting elective for kids who want those.

I'm at the point where I need to focus on fighting the regional model very strongly. All attention goes to that.

Very few do middle college. How is an arts program bad?

You make my point. Very few do MC. But that is the option provided for advanced learners at Woodward.

Arts is a waste of time. It’s a mere hobby that they are allocating towards six high schools. They should focus on reading, writing and math proficiency in MCPS generally, not arts.

I agree with you on NOT liking Middle College for the reasons you stated, but there's no reason to believe Woodward would not offer AP classes to its students even with the MC program being there. In fact, MCPS is "promising" as much with this program update.

+1. If you don't like the regional programs, just don't sign up for them.

DP . There will be much fewer AP classes at Woodward than WJ. That much is true.

Not clear. Most models have Luxmanor, GP, and Farmland going to
Woodward. There are a lot of
students who will elect AP classes, enabling the classes to run. Many will
choose to stay local rather than have a long commute to Wheaton or Kennedy.

Naivety. They’ll tell you to send your kid to a program if you want advanced classes. MC or a magnet. In all regional documents, Woodward is by far the weakest in region 3. Enjoy your new construction and mediocre education quality. But hey, at least your kid can do band.

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Anonymous wrote:Increasing FARMS at Whitman by 3% is funny though....it's like they had to try something...

Ridiculous to change two elementary school communities and move students out of walk zones for this very minimal increase that has no impact on the original focus of the boundary study. Option F does not make sense.

Yeah this is idiotic.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting to see the popularity of option F. This (along with B) is the big change option for my neighborhood — ESS, currently zoned for Blair and could move to Northwood. I’m not foaming at the mouth about it but I’d prefer to stay Blair.

Yeah I'm an ESS family and agree with you. I think Northwood will be a fine school but I hate the idea of middle college. It feels like it kind of destroys both the high school and the college experience. I hope with the larger school there will be enough advanced kids not doing MC that my kids can do normal high school and still have advanced classes. So I hope we stay Blair, but we'll make the best of Northwood. I was upset about the possibility of being sent to SSIMS and then having it be closed and have to be bussed for middle school so I'm glad that seems like it won't happen.

+1 I am a potential Woodward family. (It's extremely likely I will be Woodward after the latest options. Only a fleeting hope remains of WJ). Reason why I am opposed to Woodward is that it has a arts program and that Middle College/ MC program. You articulate the point correctly. It feels like it destroys both high school and college experience. They should just offer a standard high school with some advanced classes for kids who need it, and music or painting elective for kids who want those.

I'm at the point where I need to focus on fighting the regional model very strongly. All attention goes to that.

Very few do middle college. How is an arts program bad?

You make my point. Very few do MC. But that is the option provided for advanced learners at Woodward.

Arts is a waste of time. It’s a mere hobby that they are allocating towards six high schools. They should focus on reading, writing and math proficiency in MCPS generally, not arts.

You know plenty of students do both arts and core subjects. Arts is not just a hobby and can lead to lots of careers. Every school needs a vibrant music, visual, and performing arts program.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting to see the popularity of option F. This (along with B) is the big change option for my neighborhood — ESS, currently zoned for Blair and could move to Northwood. I’m not foaming at the mouth about it but I’d prefer to stay Blair.

Yeah I'm an ESS family and agree with you. I think Northwood will be a fine school but I hate the idea of middle college. It feels like it kind of destroys both the high school and the college experience. I hope with the larger school there will be enough advanced kids not doing MC that my kids can do normal high school and still have advanced classes. So I hope we stay Blair, but we'll make the best of Northwood. I was upset about the possibility of being sent to SSIMS and then having it be closed and have to be bussed for middle school so I'm glad that seems like it won't happen.

+1 I am a potential Woodward family. (It's extremely likely I will be Woodward after the latest options. Only a fleeting hope remains of WJ). Reason why I am opposed to Woodward is that it has a arts program and that Middle College/ MC program. You articulate the point correctly. It feels like it destroys both high school and college experience. They should just offer a standard high school with some advanced classes for kids who need it, and music or painting elective for kids who want those.

I'm at the point where I need to focus on fighting the regional model very strongly. All attention goes to that.

Very few do middle college. How is an arts program bad?

You make my point. Very few do MC. But that is the option provided for advanced learners at Woodward.

Arts is a waste of time. It’s a mere hobby that they are allocating towards six high schools. They should focus on reading, writing and math proficiency in MCPS generally, not arts.

I agree with you on NOT liking Middle College for the reasons you stated, but there's no reason to believe Woodward would not offer AP classes to its students even with the MC program being there. In fact, MCPS is "promising" as much with this program update.

Where are these promises in writing? Enforceable? I’ve learned not to rely on that speculation.

Clearly they want advanced learners from Woodward to go to Wheaton for math/science, Kennedy for IB, and WJ for APEX program. Woodward will be for the kids well do drama, play the flute and like to paint. If you don’t get into a program at the other schools in the region and are zoned to Woodward (or don’t want to go to those schools) you will be relegated to Montgomery College classes. That much is clear.

No, that is not in any way clear.

Wake up!

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting to see the popularity of option F. This (along with B) is the big change option for my neighborhood — ESS, currently zoned for Blair and could move to Northwood. I’m not foaming at the mouth about it but I’d prefer to stay Blair.

Yeah I'm an ESS family and agree with you. I think Northwood will be a fine school but I hate the idea of middle college. It feels like it kind of destroys both the high school and the college experience. I hope with the larger school there will be enough advanced kids not doing MC that my kids can do normal high school and still have advanced classes. So I hope we stay Blair, but we'll make the best of Northwood. I was upset about the possibility of being sent to SSIMS and then having it be closed and have to be bussed for middle school so I'm glad that seems like it won't happen.

+1 I am a potential Woodward family. (It's extremely likely I will be Woodward after the latest options. Only a fleeting hope remains of WJ). Reason why I am opposed to Woodward is that it has a arts program and that Middle College/ MC program. You articulate the point correctly. It feels like it destroys both high school and college experience. They should just offer a standard high school with some advanced classes for kids who need it, and music or painting elective for kids who want those.

I'm at the point where I need to focus on fighting the regional model very strongly. All attention goes to that.

Very few do middle college. How is an arts program bad?

You make my point. Very few do MC. But that is the option provided for advanced learners at Woodward.

Arts is a waste of time. It’s a mere hobby that they are allocating towards six high schools. They should focus on reading, writing and math proficiency in MCPS generally, not arts.

You know plenty of students do both arts and core subjects. Arts is not just a hobby and can lead to lots of careers. Every school needs a vibrant music, visual, and performing arts program.

Disagree. The only career it could lead to is painting houses if you’re lucky.

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Anonymous wrote:zoned for WJ or Woodward, depending on model, current WJ

It seems like F does a good job, compared to others, of balancing capacity, FARMS and EML. I also like that it keeps GPES together. For my neighborhood proximity is also fine. So overall leaning towards F being my top pick.

My question regarding proximity: how do Wheaton Woods families feel about the longer drive to Woodward vs current drive to Wheaton?

Also, overall what do people think of F?

Who cares about GPES being kept together. Us at SSIM are being shut out…they’re closing our school. Say no to F. It deserves an F grade.

Your neighboring KPES isn’t being kept together and you don’t see them nagging as much as GPES

ok, ok
that is why I asked what others think

It is hard to see the nuances and impacts on all schools and easiest to see impact on one's own neighborhood

also it is valid to care about split articulation even if you weigh other factors and impacts higher. no need to be hostile

Zero. You like to project your feelings on others too much. I want my school to stay open. Your split articulations issues is meaningless to education quality.