Third round options on Woodward Boundary study

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Increasing FARMS at Whitman by 3% is funny though....it's like they had to try something...

Ridiculous to change two elementary school communities and move students out of walk zones for this very minimal increase that has no impact on the original focus of the boundary study. Option F does not make sense.

Option F won't happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Increasing FARMS at Whitman by 3% is funny though....it's like they had to try something...

Ridiculous to change two elementary school communities and move students out of walk zones for this very minimal increase that has no impact on the original focus of the boundary study. Option F does not make sense.

Option F won't happen.

Option F is the only one that doesn't leave Wheaton overcrowded per its capacity of 2220 as listed in the current CIP so that is the one I will support.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Increasing FARMS at Whitman by 3% is funny though....it's like they had to try something...

Ridiculous to change two elementary school communities and move students out of walk zones for this very minimal increase that has no impact on the original focus of the boundary study. Option F does not make sense.

It makes sense to appease the screeching of "why don't Whitman and BCC get hurt too???"

The "screeching" you are referring to is MCPS choosing to leave DCC schools overcrowded and facing numerous boundary changes and split articulations while nothing changes for Whitman or BCC..

Option F is the only option that doesn't leave Wheaton overcrowded based on its capacity of 2220 listed in the CIP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Increasing FARMS at Whitman by 3% is funny though....it's like they had to try something...

Ridiculous to change two elementary school communities and move students out of walk zones for this very minimal increase that has no impact on the original focus of the boundary study. Option F does not make sense.

It makes sense to appease the screeching of "why don't Whitman and BCC get hurt too???"

The "screeching" you are referring to is MCPS choosing to leave DCC schools overcrowded and facing numerous boundary changes and split articulations while nothing changes for Whitman or BCC..

Option F is the only option that doesn't leave Wheaton overcrowded based on its capacity of 2220 listed in the CIP.

all the schools are at about 80% capacity in many models

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Increasing FARMS at Whitman by 3% is funny though....it's like they had to try something...

Ridiculous to change two elementary school communities and move students out of walk zones for this very minimal increase that has no impact on the original focus of the boundary study. Option F does not make sense.

It makes sense to appease the screeching of "why don't Whitman and BCC get hurt too???"

The "screeching" you are referring to is MCPS choosing to leave DCC schools overcrowded and facing numerous boundary changes and split articulations while nothing changes for Whitman or BCC..

Option F is the only option that doesn't leave Wheaton overcrowded based on its capacity of 2220 listed in the CIP.

all the schools are at about 80% capacity in many models

They added 500 seats to Wheaton by saying 500 students will be doing CTE programs at Edison. That explanation makes no sense for many reasons, starting with the fact that Edison programs are part time and can't fulfill graduation requirements by themselves.

[Anonymous]

The capacity for each high school for models a to g is:

BCC (89, 89, 89, 89, 90, 89, 89)
Blair (85, 78, 85, 85, 85, 85, 90)
Einstein (93, 93, 85, 93, 83, 82, 79)
WJ (72, 78, 70, 83, 71, 78, 71)
Kennedy (90, 90, 90, 83, 90, 90, 90)
Northwood (81, 91, 86, 81, 88, 89, 86)
Wheaton* (95, 95, 95, 95, 86, 95, 81, 95)
Whitman (83, 83, 83, 83, 83, 84, 83)
Woodward (80, 74, 81, 86, 81, 91, 81)

* added 500 seats to capacity

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting to see the popularity of option F. This (along with B) is the big change option for my neighborhood — ESS, currently zoned for Blair and could move to Northwood. I’m not foaming at the mouth about it but I’d prefer to stay Blair.

Yeah I'm an ESS family and agree with you. I think Northwood will be a fine school but I hate the idea of middle college. It feels like it kind of destroys both the high school and the college experience. I hope with the larger school there will be enough advanced kids not doing MC that my kids can do normal high school and still have advanced classes. So I hope we stay Blair, but we'll make the best of Northwood. I was upset about the possibility of being sent to SSIMS and then having it be closed and have to be bussed for middle school so I'm glad that seems like it won't happen.

+1 I am a potential Woodward family. (It's extremely likely I will be Woodward after the latest options. Only a fleeting hope remains of WJ). Reason why I am opposed to Woodward is that it has a arts program and that Middle College/ MC program. You articulate the point correctly. It feels like it destroys both high school and college experience. They should just offer a standard high school with some advanced classes for kids who need it, and music or painting elective for kids who want those.

I'm at the point where I need to focus on fighting the regional model very strongly. All attention goes to that.

Very few do middle college. How is an arts program bad?

[Anonymous]

zoned for WJ or Woodward, depending on model, current WJ

It seems like F does a good job, compared to others, of balancing capacity, FARMS and EML. I also like that it keeps GPES together. For my neighborhood proximity is also fine. So overall leaning towards F being my top pick.

My question regarding proximity: how do Wheaton Woods families feel about the longer drive to Woodward vs current drive to Wheaton?

Also, overall what do people think of F?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting to see the popularity of option F. This (along with B) is the big change option for my neighborhood — ESS, currently zoned for Blair and could move to Northwood. I’m not foaming at the mouth about it but I’d prefer to stay Blair.

Yeah I'm an ESS family and agree with you. I think Northwood will be a fine school but I hate the idea of middle college. It feels like it kind of destroys both the high school and the college experience. I hope with the larger school there will be enough advanced kids not doing MC that my kids can do normal high school and still have advanced classes. So I hope we stay Blair, but we'll make the best of Northwood. I was upset about the possibility of being sent to SSIMS and then having it be closed and have to be bussed for middle school so I'm glad that seems like it won't happen.

+1 I am a potential Woodward family. (It's extremely likely I will be Woodward after the latest options. Only a fleeting hope remains of WJ). Reason why I am opposed to Woodward is that it has a arts program and that Middle College/ MC program. You articulate the point correctly. It feels like it destroys both high school and college experience. They should just offer a standard high school with some advanced classes for kids who need it, and music or painting elective for kids who want those.

I'm at the point where I need to focus on fighting the regional model very strongly. All attention goes to that.

Very few do middle college. How is an arts program bad?

You make my point. Very few do MC. But that is the option provided for advanced learners at Woodward.

Arts is a waste of time. It’s a mere hobby that they are allocating towards six high schools. They should focus on reading, writing and math proficiency in MCPS generally, not arts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:zoned for WJ or Woodward, depending on model, current WJ

It seems like F does a good job, compared to others, of balancing capacity, FARMS and EML. I also like that it keeps GPES together. For my neighborhood proximity is also fine. So overall leaning towards F being my top pick.

My question regarding proximity: how do Wheaton Woods families feel about the longer drive to Woodward vs current drive to Wheaton?

Also, overall what do people think of F?

Who cares about GPES being kept together. Us at SSIM are being shut out…they’re closing our school. Say no to F. It deserves an F grade.

Your neighboring KPES isn’t being kept together and you don’t see them nagging as much as GPES

[Anonymous]

Is F the only one that closes SSIM? Really not clear from the descriptions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting to see the popularity of option F. This (along with B) is the big change option for my neighborhood — ESS, currently zoned for Blair and could move to Northwood. I’m not foaming at the mouth about it but I’d prefer to stay Blair.

Yeah I'm an ESS family and agree with you. I think Northwood will be a fine school but I hate the idea of middle college. It feels like it kind of destroys both the high school and the college experience. I hope with the larger school there will be enough advanced kids not doing MC that my kids can do normal high school and still have advanced classes. So I hope we stay Blair, but we'll make the best of Northwood. I was upset about the possibility of being sent to SSIMS and then having it be closed and have to be bussed for middle school so I'm glad that seems like it won't happen.

+1 I am a potential Woodward family. (It's extremely likely I will be Woodward after the latest options. Only a fleeting hope remains of WJ). Reason why I am opposed to Woodward is that it has a arts program and that Middle College/ MC program. You articulate the point correctly. It feels like it destroys both high school and college experience. They should just offer a standard high school with some advanced classes for kids who need it, and music or painting elective for kids who want those.

I'm at the point where I need to focus on fighting the regional model very strongly. All attention goes to that.

Very few do middle college. How is an arts program bad?

You make my point. Very few do MC. But that is the option provided for advanced learners at Woodward.

Arts is a waste of time. It’s a mere hobby that they are allocating towards six high schools. They should focus on reading, writing and math proficiency in MCPS generally, not arts.

I agree with you on NOT liking Middle College for the reasons you stated, but there's no reason to believe Woodward would not offer AP classes to its students even with the MC program being there. In fact, MCPS is "promising" as much with this program update.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is F the only one that closes SSIM? Really not clear from the descriptions.

The three new options, E, F, and G all show what the MS boundaries would like like if SSIMS is closed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is F the only one that closes SSIM? Really not clear from the descriptions.

Seems like they are intentionally making the options unclear. They need to make tables that compare the options side by side but that would make it easier for people to understand them and MCPS CO is better off with things being opaque and requiring extensive unpaid time to understand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:zoned for WJ or Woodward, depending on model, current WJ

It seems like F does a good job, compared to others, of balancing capacity, FARMS and EML. I also like that it keeps GPES together. For my neighborhood proximity is also fine. So overall leaning towards F being my top pick.

My question regarding proximity: how do Wheaton Woods families feel about the longer drive to Woodward vs current drive to Wheaton?

Also, overall what do people think of F?

Who cares about GPES being kept together. Us at SSIM are being shut out…they’re closing our school. Say no to F. It deserves an F grade.

Your neighboring KPES isn’t being kept together and you don’t see them nagging as much as GPES

ok, ok
that is why I asked what others think

It is hard to see the nuances and impacts on all schools and easiest to see impact on one's own neighborhood