Is responsibility for your own bag too much to ask?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a tall woman. I've put up and taken down plenty of suitcases for other people, particularly the elderly. I'm sympathetic as I have a 5'0" mom (tall Dad) and I've been getting stuff off shelves for her since I was 10.

+1 as a tall man. I'm happy to help. It's also way more pleasant than going through life being angry at people about their luggage.

Thank you. Lots of really selfish people around here. DH is very tall; I'm super short. DH helps people he sees struggling, whether with their bags or in the grocery store trying to get stuff on the top shelf. He's a kind person. My kids (17 and 20) are tall, and even they have helped people in the airplane with their bags.

If I saw a mom with a baby and toddler trying to deal with bags and such, I'd help her. Aholes would just tell her that she shouldn't fly to go see her family.

A mom with a baby and toddler is asking for trouble trying to carry all those bags and deal with all the kids. There’s a simple solution to check the bags. It’s stupid to make things harder than they have to be.

You need formula, snacks, food, sippy cups, bottles, water for formula if its not liquid, diapers, wipes, clothing for everyone, medications, etc.

We were getting off our flight and a couple with a baby's flight was canceled and they were stranded about to finally get on board after about 14 hours at the airport and out of supplies. We saw them in a panic waiting for our stroller at the gate. Thankfully, I had extra in my car at the airport so I could clean out my stuff and give it to them, but you always need to pack at least 2-3 times what you think you need as well.

You don't need 2-3x of clothes, water bottles, snacks and food. The airport sells all of that. Just the essentials which should fit in one small bag.

Why on earth would you spend a fortune on diapers and other stuff at the airport when you can bring extra. I spend enough money on food at the airport. $20 for a burger and fries. I can't imagine how much a pack of diapers would cost there

Where on earth did I suggest you buy diapers at the airport? I specifically listed the things you should get at the airport and shockingly I didn’t say diapers or wipes. But if you’re trying to say you need 3 roll aboards worth of diapers, wipes and formula then you are full of shit. Maybe eat fewer burgers and fries for a start.

NP (and one who is a very efficient competent traveler with and without kids).

1) No one said anything about bringing on 3 roll bags either if you’re keeping score in bringing up materials not in evidence! Nor was there any evidence this poster is fat so the already far over the line fat insult doesn’t even make sense in context.

2) You absolutely need spare clothes for kids and they do not always sell it at the airport and if they do it’s generally crazy expensive.

3) Snacks and food also very expensive at the airport. And they don’t sell formula.

4) I have never seen a bottle for sale at the airport or kids cups/gear which is how you get through the flight without making a mess

5) PP clearly described why you do need extra of everything if you don’t want to spend a ton of unnecessary money in case of delays/just a long travel da

6) Generally the required accoutrement is in a diaper bag (which is not tiny although not ridiculous), a carry on and a stroller. When you add the children in this can get overwhelming.

7) Helping people costs you nothing. No one walks through life without ever experiencing a moment when the kindness of a stranger can make a great impact, if you think you have you just haven’t had your eyes open.

Tell me you’ve never flown with kids without saying you’ve never flown with kids. Tell me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk without telling me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk.

And I’m really a brand np and my kids look like they’ve been trained at the factory line in an airport they are all on point and we never hold anyone up. But the lack of humanity in this thread is why traveling has become such a garbage experience.

No one sits on their death bed regretting that time they helped an overwhelmed mom or elderly woman with their suitcase.

I have 3 kids and have successfully traveled with them. You must have some planning and executive function deficiencies to go along with your bad attitude and sense of entitlement if this is so hard. If you haven’t learned this by now, and do you really have kids if you haven’t, you have to move a little slower, check bags if needed, and take your time. Packing your entire life into carry on bags, lugging car seats strollers, baby carriers and trying to wrangle a toddler is stupid. Nobody said traveling with kids was easy and sacrifices are made. Maybe drive to your destination instead of throwing yourself to the mercy of unsuspecting other travelers expecting them to ease your burden.

Tell me you didn’t actually read my post without telling me you didn’t read my post.

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We live in a SOCIETY.

WTF is wrong with some of you people.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a tall woman. I've put up and taken down plenty of suitcases for other people, particularly the elderly. I'm sympathetic as I have a 5'0" mom (tall Dad) and I've been getting stuff off shelves for her since I was 10.

+1 as a tall man. I'm happy to help. It's also way more pleasant than going through life being angry at people about their luggage.

Thank you. Lots of really selfish people around here. DH is very tall; I'm super short. DH helps people he sees struggling, whether with their bags or in the grocery store trying to get stuff on the top shelf. He's a kind person. My kids (17 and 20) are tall, and even they have helped people in the airplane with their bags.

If I saw a mom with a baby and toddler trying to deal with bags and such, I'd help her. Aholes would just tell her that she shouldn't fly to go see her family.

A mom with a baby and toddler is asking for trouble trying to carry all those bags and deal with all the kids. There’s a simple solution to check the bags. It’s stupid to make things harder than they have to be.

You need formula, snacks, food, sippy cups, bottles, water for formula if its not liquid, diapers, wipes, clothing for everyone, medications, etc.

We were getting off our flight and a couple with a baby's flight was canceled and they were stranded about to finally get on board after about 14 hours at the airport and out of supplies. We saw them in a panic waiting for our stroller at the gate. Thankfully, I had extra in my car at the airport so I could clean out my stuff and give it to them, but you always need to pack at least 2-3 times what you think you need as well.

You don't need 2-3x of clothes, water bottles, snacks and food. The airport sells all of that. Just the essentials which should fit in one small bag.

Why on earth would you spend a fortune on diapers and other stuff at the airport when you can bring extra. I spend enough money on food at the airport. $20 for a burger and fries. I can't imagine how much a pack of diapers would cost there

Where on earth did I suggest you buy diapers at the airport? I specifically listed the things you should get at the airport and shockingly I didn’t say diapers or wipes. But if you’re trying to say you need 3 roll aboards worth of diapers, wipes and formula then you are full of shit. Maybe eat fewer burgers and fries for a start.

NP (and one who is a very efficient competent traveler with and without kids).

1) No one said anything about bringing on 3 roll bags either if you’re keeping score in bringing up materials not in evidence! Nor was there any evidence this poster is fat so the already far over the line fat insult doesn’t even make sense in context.

2) You absolutely need spare clothes for kids and they do not always sell it at the airport and if they do it’s generally crazy expensive.

3) Snacks and food also very expensive at the airport. And they don’t sell formula.

4) I have never seen a bottle for sale at the airport or kids cups/gear which is how you get through the flight without making a mess

5) PP clearly described why you do need extra of everything if you don’t want to spend a ton of unnecessary money in case of delays/just a long travel da

6) Generally the required accoutrement is in a diaper bag (which is not tiny although not ridiculous), a carry on and a stroller. When you add the children in this can get overwhelming.

7) Helping people costs you nothing. No one walks through life without ever experiencing a moment when the kindness of a stranger can make a great impact, if you think you have you just haven’t had your eyes open.

Tell me you’ve never flown with kids without saying you’ve never flown with kids. Tell me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk without telling me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk.

And I’m really a brand np and my kids look like they’ve been trained at the factory line in an airport they are all on point and we never hold anyone up. But the lack of humanity in this thread is why traveling has become such a garbage experience.

No one sits on their death bed regretting that time they helped an overwhelmed mom or elderly woman with their suitcase.

BS. We all know who you are. You are the people we change lines to avoid being behind at TSA.

No I’m not. But it doesn’t matter because my point is that that family you’re talking about also has a right to travel and when I see people who need a hand I lend one I don’t sit there scowling at them like a modern day Ebeneezer Scrooge

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a tall woman. I've put up and taken down plenty of suitcases for other people, particularly the elderly. I'm sympathetic as I have a 5'0" mom (tall Dad) and I've been getting stuff off shelves for her since I was 10.

+1 as a tall man. I'm happy to help. It's also way more pleasant than going through life being angry at people about their luggage.

Thank you. Lots of really selfish people around here. DH is very tall; I'm super short. DH helps people he sees struggling, whether with their bags or in the grocery store trying to get stuff on the top shelf. He's a kind person. My kids (17 and 20) are tall, and even they have helped people in the airplane with their bags.

If I saw a mom with a baby and toddler trying to deal with bags and such, I'd help her. Aholes would just tell her that she shouldn't fly to go see her family.

A mom with a baby and toddler is asking for trouble trying to carry all those bags and deal with all the kids. There’s a simple solution to check the bags. It’s stupid to make things harder than they have to be.

You need formula, snacks, food, sippy cups, bottles, water for formula if its not liquid, diapers, wipes, clothing for everyone, medications, etc.

We were getting off our flight and a couple with a baby's flight was canceled and they were stranded about to finally get on board after about 14 hours at the airport and out of supplies. We saw them in a panic waiting for our stroller at the gate. Thankfully, I had extra in my car at the airport so I could clean out my stuff and give it to them, but you always need to pack at least 2-3 times what you think you need as well.

You don't need 2-3x of clothes, water bottles, snacks and food. The airport sells all of that. Just the essentials which should fit in one small bag.

Why on earth would you spend a fortune on diapers and other stuff at the airport when you can bring extra. I spend enough money on food at the airport. $20 for a burger and fries. I can't imagine how much a pack of diapers would cost there

Where on earth did I suggest you buy diapers at the airport? I specifically listed the things you should get at the airport and shockingly I didn’t say diapers or wipes. But if you’re trying to say you need 3 roll aboards worth of diapers, wipes and formula then you are full of shit. Maybe eat fewer burgers and fries for a start.

NP (and one who is a very efficient competent traveler with and without kids).

1) No one said anything about bringing on 3 roll bags either if you’re keeping score in bringing up materials not in evidence! Nor was there any evidence this poster is fat so the already far over the line fat insult doesn’t even make sense in context.

2) You absolutely need spare clothes for kids and they do not always sell it at the airport and if they do it’s generally crazy expensive.

3) Snacks and food also very expensive at the airport. And they don’t sell formula.

4) I have never seen a bottle for sale at the airport or kids cups/gear which is how you get through the flight without making a mess

5) PP clearly described why you do need extra of everything if you don’t want to spend a ton of unnecessary money in case of delays/just a long travel da

6) Generally the required accoutrement is in a diaper bag (which is not tiny although not ridiculous), a carry on and a stroller. When you add the children in this can get overwhelming.

7) Helping people costs you nothing. No one walks through life without ever experiencing a moment when the kindness of a stranger can make a great impact, if you think you have you just haven’t had your eyes open.

Tell me you’ve never flown with kids without saying you’ve never flown with kids. Tell me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk without telling me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk.

And I’m really a brand np and my kids look like they’ve been trained at the factory line in an airport they are all on point and we never hold anyone up. But the lack of humanity in this thread is why traveling has become such a garbage experience.

No one sits on their death bed regretting that time they helped an overwhelmed mom or elderly woman with their suitcase.

I have 3 kids and have successfully traveled with them. You must have some planning and executive function deficiencies to go along with your bad attitude and sense of entitlement if this is so hard. If you haven’t learned this by now, and do you really have kids if you haven’t, you have to move a little slower, check bags if needed, and take your time. Packing your entire life into carry on bags, lugging car seats strollers, baby carriers and trying to wrangle a toddler is stupid. Nobody said traveling with kids was easy and sacrifices are made. Maybe drive to your destination instead of throwing yourself to the mercy of unsuspecting other travelers expecting them to ease your burden.

How fortunate for you that your flight with little kids have never been delayed for hours. That's never happened to me, but I did learn a hard lesson about airlines losing my luggage with all my baby's stuff in there. They had lost it for a week. From then on, I always packed at least 2 days worth of stuff in the carryon.

Have you never read news stories of people being stuck in the airplane for hours on the runway, and the airline wouldn't let them disembark? I always shudder to think what that would be like with a toddler and baby.

You're an a$$ to not expect people to travel to see family, who may be on another continent, or across the country, just because you think no one should have to help the moms. Trying to deal with a baby and toddler is hard no matter where you are. It doesn't hurt you to be kind. But, I guess that's beyond your morals.

No one was even saying you must help, only that being kind costs you nothing to help.

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This thread is full of several people who clearly don't fly very often but feel confident that they know the "right" way to do things. No one who has been stuck in an endless immigration line with an infant after a 12+ hour flight would question the wisdom of bringing more diapers, clothes, or bottles in a carryon.

Thankfully, the people on this thread are not representative of the spectrum of people who actually travel. I help people with the things I can help them with, and I've never had an issue with people helping me with the things where I need help.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a tall woman. I've put up and taken down plenty of suitcases for other people, particularly the elderly. I'm sympathetic as I have a 5'0" mom (tall Dad) and I've been getting stuff off shelves for her since I was 10.

+1 as a tall man. I'm happy to help. It's also way more pleasant than going through life being angry at people about their luggage.

Thank you. Lots of really selfish people around here. DH is very tall; I'm super short. DH helps people he sees struggling, whether with their bags or in the grocery store trying to get stuff on the top shelf. He's a kind person. My kids (17 and 20) are tall, and even they have helped people in the airplane with their bags.

If I saw a mom with a baby and toddler trying to deal with bags and such, I'd help her. Aholes would just tell her that she shouldn't fly to go see her family.

A mom with a baby and toddler is asking for trouble trying to carry all those bags and deal with all the kids. There’s a simple solution to check the bags. It’s stupid to make things harder than they have to be.

You need formula, snacks, food, sippy cups, bottles, water for formula if its not liquid, diapers, wipes, clothing for everyone, medications, etc.

We were getting off our flight and a couple with a baby's flight was canceled and they were stranded about to finally get on board after about 14 hours at the airport and out of supplies. We saw them in a panic waiting for our stroller at the gate. Thankfully, I had extra in my car at the airport so I could clean out my stuff and give it to them, but you always need to pack at least 2-3 times what you think you need as well.

You don't need 2-3x of clothes, water bottles, snacks and food. The airport sells all of that. Just the essentials which should fit in one small bag.

Why on earth would you spend a fortune on diapers and other stuff at the airport when you can bring extra. I spend enough money on food at the airport. $20 for a burger and fries. I can't imagine how much a pack of diapers would cost there

Where on earth did I suggest you buy diapers at the airport? I specifically listed the things you should get at the airport and shockingly I didn’t say diapers or wipes. But if you’re trying to say you need 3 roll aboards worth of diapers, wipes and formula then you are full of shit. Maybe eat fewer burgers and fries for a start.

NP (and one who is a very efficient competent traveler with and without kids).

1) No one said anything about bringing on 3 roll bags either if you’re keeping score in bringing up materials not in evidence! Nor was there any evidence this poster is fat so the already far over the line fat insult doesn’t even make sense in context.

2) You absolutely need spare clothes for kids and they do not always sell it at the airport and if they do it’s generally crazy expensive.

3) Snacks and food also very expensive at the airport. And they don’t sell formula.

4) I have never seen a bottle for sale at the airport or kids cups/gear which is how you get through the flight without making a mess

5) PP clearly described why you do need extra of everything if you don’t want to spend a ton of unnecessary money in case of delays/just a long travel da

6) Generally the required accoutrement is in a diaper bag (which is not tiny although not ridiculous), a carry on and a stroller. When you add the children in this can get overwhelming.

7) Helping people costs you nothing. No one walks through life without ever experiencing a moment when the kindness of a stranger can make a great impact, if you think you have you just haven’t had your eyes open.

Tell me you’ve never flown with kids without saying you’ve never flown with kids. Tell me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk without telling me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk.

And I’m really a brand np and my kids look like they’ve been trained at the factory line in an airport they are all on point and we never hold anyone up. But the lack of humanity in this thread is why traveling has become such a garbage experience.

No one sits on their death bed regretting that time they helped an overwhelmed mom or elderly woman with their suitcase.

BS. We all know who you are. You are the people we change lines to avoid being behind at TSA.

This is also the one whining that the family isn’t seated next to each other because hapless cheap mom didn’t pay for seats. It’s also the gate check scam, to avoid paying to check any luggage. We’ve all seen it. I used to check carseats and it was the best because you could shove all your winter coats in the car seat bag at the same time if going someplace cold. Mom needs a baby carriers, umbrella stroller and one backpack. That’s how experienced travelers do it.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a tall woman. I've put up and taken down plenty of suitcases for other people, particularly the elderly. I'm sympathetic as I have a 5'0" mom (tall Dad) and I've been getting stuff off shelves for her since I was 10.

+1 as a tall man. I'm happy to help. It's also way more pleasant than going through life being angry at people about their luggage.

Thank you. Lots of really selfish people around here. DH is very tall; I'm super short. DH helps people he sees struggling, whether with their bags or in the grocery store trying to get stuff on the top shelf. He's a kind person. My kids (17 and 20) are tall, and even they have helped people in the airplane with their bags.

If I saw a mom with a baby and toddler trying to deal with bags and such, I'd help her. Aholes would just tell her that she shouldn't fly to go see her family.

A mom with a baby and toddler is asking for trouble trying to carry all those bags and deal with all the kids. There’s a simple solution to check the bags. It’s stupid to make things harder than they have to be.

You need formula, snacks, food, sippy cups, bottles, water for formula if its not liquid, diapers, wipes, clothing for everyone, medications, etc.

We were getting off our flight and a couple with a baby's flight was canceled and they were stranded about to finally get on board after about 14 hours at the airport and out of supplies. We saw them in a panic waiting for our stroller at the gate. Thankfully, I had extra in my car at the airport so I could clean out my stuff and give it to them, but you always need to pack at least 2-3 times what you think you need as well.

You don't need 2-3x of clothes, water bottles, snacks and food. The airport sells all of that. Just the essentials which should fit in one small bag.

Why on earth would you spend a fortune on diapers and other stuff at the airport when you can bring extra. I spend enough money on food at the airport. $20 for a burger and fries. I can't imagine how much a pack of diapers would cost there

Where on earth did I suggest you buy diapers at the airport? I specifically listed the things you should get at the airport and shockingly I didn’t say diapers or wipes. But if you’re trying to say you need 3 roll aboards worth of diapers, wipes and formula then you are full of shit. Maybe eat fewer burgers and fries for a start.

NP (and one who is a very efficient competent traveler with and without kids).

1) No one said anything about bringing on 3 roll bags either if you’re keeping score in bringing up materials not in evidence! Nor was there any evidence this poster is fat so the already far over the line fat insult doesn’t even make sense in context.

2) You absolutely need spare clothes for kids and they do not always sell it at the airport and if they do it’s generally crazy expensive.

3) Snacks and food also very expensive at the airport. And they don’t sell formula.

4) I have never seen a bottle for sale at the airport or kids cups/gear which is how you get through the flight without making a mess

5) PP clearly described why you do need extra of everything if you don’t want to spend a ton of unnecessary money in case of delays/just a long travel da

6) Generally the required accoutrement is in a diaper bag (which is not tiny although not ridiculous), a carry on and a stroller. When you add the children in this can get overwhelming.

7) Helping people costs you nothing. No one walks through life without ever experiencing a moment when the kindness of a stranger can make a great impact, if you think you have you just haven’t had your eyes open.

Tell me you’ve never flown with kids without saying you’ve never flown with kids. Tell me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk without telling me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk.

And I’m really a brand np and my kids look like they’ve been trained at the factory line in an airport they are all on point and we never hold anyone up. But the lack of humanity in this thread is why traveling has become such a garbage experience.

No one sits on their death bed regretting that time they helped an overwhelmed mom or elderly woman with their suitcase.

I have 3 kids and have successfully traveled with them. You must have some planning and executive function deficiencies to go along with your bad attitude and sense of entitlement if this is so hard. If you haven’t learned this by now, and do you really have kids if you haven’t, you have to move a little slower, check bags if needed, and take your time. Packing your entire life into carry on bags, lugging car seats strollers, baby carriers and trying to wrangle a toddler is stupid. Nobody said traveling with kids was easy and sacrifices are made. Maybe drive to your destination instead of throwing yourself to the mercy of unsuspecting other travelers expecting them to ease your burden.

How fortunate for you that your flight with little kids have never been delayed for hours. That's never happened to me, but I did learn a hard lesson about airlines losing my luggage with all my baby's stuff in there. They had lost it for a week. From then on, I always packed at least 2 days worth of stuff in the carryon.

Have you never read news stories of people being stuck in the airplane for hours on the runway, and the airline wouldn't let them disembark? I always shudder to think what that would be like with a toddler and baby.

You're an a$$ to not expect people to travel to see family, who may be on another continent, or across the country, just because you think no one should have to help the moms. Trying to deal with a baby and toddler is hard no matter where you are. It doesn't hurt you to be kind. But, I guess that's beyond your morals.

No one was even saying you must help, only that being kind costs you nothing to help.

I had a baby vomit all over me on a flight. I had an extra change of clothes for all of us and a plastic bag. We still didn’t have so many bags we couldn’t manage. Are you generally helpless? Are you bringing a giant tub of formula or something? What gives?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a tall woman. I've put up and taken down plenty of suitcases for other people, particularly the elderly. I'm sympathetic as I have a 5'0" mom (tall Dad) and I've been getting stuff off shelves for her since I was 10.

+1 as a tall man. I'm happy to help. It's also way more pleasant than going through life being angry at people about their luggage.

Thank you. Lots of really selfish people around here. DH is very tall; I'm super short. DH helps people he sees struggling, whether with their bags or in the grocery store trying to get stuff on the top shelf. He's a kind person. My kids (17 and 20) are tall, and even they have helped people in the airplane with their bags.

If I saw a mom with a baby and toddler trying to deal with bags and such, I'd help her. Aholes would just tell her that she shouldn't fly to go see her family.

A mom with a baby and toddler is asking for trouble trying to carry all those bags and deal with all the kids. There’s a simple solution to check the bags. It’s stupid to make things harder than they have to be.

You need formula, snacks, food, sippy cups, bottles, water for formula if its not liquid, diapers, wipes, clothing for everyone, medications, etc.

We were getting off our flight and a couple with a baby's flight was canceled and they were stranded about to finally get on board after about 14 hours at the airport and out of supplies. We saw them in a panic waiting for our stroller at the gate. Thankfully, I had extra in my car at the airport so I could clean out my stuff and give it to them, but you always need to pack at least 2-3 times what you think you need as well.

You don't need 2-3x of clothes, water bottles, snacks and food. The airport sells all of that. Just the essentials which should fit in one small bag.

Why on earth would you spend a fortune on diapers and other stuff at the airport when you can bring extra. I spend enough money on food at the airport. $20 for a burger and fries. I can't imagine how much a pack of diapers would cost there

Where on earth did I suggest you buy diapers at the airport? I specifically listed the things you should get at the airport and shockingly I didn’t say diapers or wipes. But if you’re trying to say you need 3 roll aboards worth of diapers, wipes and formula then you are full of shit. Maybe eat fewer burgers and fries for a start.

NP (and one who is a very efficient competent traveler with and without kids).

1) No one said anything about bringing on 3 roll bags either if you’re keeping score in bringing up materials not in evidence! Nor was there any evidence this poster is fat so the already far over the line fat insult doesn’t even make sense in context.

2) You absolutely need spare clothes for kids and they do not always sell it at the airport and if they do it’s generally crazy expensive.

3) Snacks and food also very expensive at the airport. And they don’t sell formula.

4) I have never seen a bottle for sale at the airport or kids cups/gear which is how you get through the flight without making a mess

5) PP clearly described why you do need extra of everything if you don’t want to spend a ton of unnecessary money in case of delays/just a long travel da

6) Generally the required accoutrement is in a diaper bag (which is not tiny although not ridiculous), a carry on and a stroller. When you add the children in this can get overwhelming.

7) Helping people costs you nothing. No one walks through life without ever experiencing a moment when the kindness of a stranger can make a great impact, if you think you have you just haven’t had your eyes open.

Tell me you’ve never flown with kids without saying you’ve never flown with kids. Tell me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk without telling me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk.

And I’m really a brand np and my kids look like they’ve been trained at the factory line in an airport they are all on point and we never hold anyone up. But the lack of humanity in this thread is why traveling has become such a garbage experience.

No one sits on their death bed regretting that time they helped an overwhelmed mom or elderly woman with their suitcase.

BS. We all know who you are. You are the people we change lines to avoid being behind at TSA.

No I’m not. But it doesn’t matter because my point is that that family you’re talking about also has a right to travel and when I see people who need a hand I lend one I don’t sit there scowling at them like a modern day Ebeneezer Scrooge

A “right” to travel. There’s the entitlement. Where is this right spelled out exactly?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a tall woman. I've put up and taken down plenty of suitcases for other people, particularly the elderly. I'm sympathetic as I have a 5'0" mom (tall Dad) and I've been getting stuff off shelves for her since I was 10.

+1 as a tall man. I'm happy to help. It's also way more pleasant than going through life being angry at people about their luggage.

Thank you. Lots of really selfish people around here. DH is very tall; I'm super short. DH helps people he sees struggling, whether with their bags or in the grocery store trying to get stuff on the top shelf. He's a kind person. My kids (17 and 20) are tall, and even they have helped people in the airplane with their bags.

If I saw a mom with a baby and toddler trying to deal with bags and such, I'd help her. Aholes would just tell her that she shouldn't fly to go see her family.

A mom with a baby and toddler is asking for trouble trying to carry all those bags and deal with all the kids. There’s a simple solution to check the bags. It’s stupid to make things harder than they have to be.

You need formula, snacks, food, sippy cups, bottles, water for formula if its not liquid, diapers, wipes, clothing for everyone, medications, etc.

We were getting off our flight and a couple with a baby's flight was canceled and they were stranded about to finally get on board after about 14 hours at the airport and out of supplies. We saw them in a panic waiting for our stroller at the gate. Thankfully, I had extra in my car at the airport so I could clean out my stuff and give it to them, but you always need to pack at least 2-3 times what you think you need as well.

You don't need 2-3x of clothes, water bottles, snacks and food. The airport sells all of that. Just the essentials which should fit in one small bag.

Why on earth would you spend a fortune on diapers and other stuff at the airport when you can bring extra. I spend enough money on food at the airport. $20 for a burger and fries. I can't imagine how much a pack of diapers would cost there

Where on earth did I suggest you buy diapers at the airport? I specifically listed the things you should get at the airport and shockingly I didn’t say diapers or wipes. But if you’re trying to say you need 3 roll aboards worth of diapers, wipes and formula then you are full of shit. Maybe eat fewer burgers and fries for a start.

NP (and one who is a very efficient competent traveler with and without kids).

1) No one said anything about bringing on 3 roll bags either if you’re keeping score in bringing up materials not in evidence! Nor was there any evidence this poster is fat so the already far over the line fat insult doesn’t even make sense in context.

2) You absolutely need spare clothes for kids and they do not always sell it at the airport and if they do it’s generally crazy expensive.

3) Snacks and food also very expensive at the airport. And they don’t sell formula.

4) I have never seen a bottle for sale at the airport or kids cups/gear which is how you get through the flight without making a mess

5) PP clearly described why you do need extra of everything if you don’t want to spend a ton of unnecessary money in case of delays/just a long travel da

6) Generally the required accoutrement is in a diaper bag (which is not tiny although not ridiculous), a carry on and a stroller. When you add the children in this can get overwhelming.

7) Helping people costs you nothing. No one walks through life without ever experiencing a moment when the kindness of a stranger can make a great impact, if you think you have you just haven’t had your eyes open.

Tell me you’ve never flown with kids without saying you’ve never flown with kids. Tell me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk without telling me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk.

And I’m really a brand np and my kids look like they’ve been trained at the factory line in an airport they are all on point and we never hold anyone up. But the lack of humanity in this thread is why traveling has become such a garbage experience.

No one sits on their death bed regretting that time they helped an overwhelmed mom or elderly woman with their suitcase.

BS. We all know who you are. You are the people we change lines to avoid being behind at TSA.

No I’m not. But it doesn’t matter because my point is that that family you’re talking about also has a right to travel and when I see people who need a hand I lend one I don’t sit there scowling at them like a modern day Ebeneezer Scrooge

A “right” to travel. There’s the entitlement. Where is this right spelled out exactly?

Exactly. Flying is not a right. It’s a privilege. And to have that privilege you follow the rules.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a tall woman. I've put up and taken down plenty of suitcases for other people, particularly the elderly. I'm sympathetic as I have a 5'0" mom (tall Dad) and I've been getting stuff off shelves for her since I was 10.

+1 as a tall man. I'm happy to help. It's also way more pleasant than going through life being angry at people about their luggage.

Thank you. Lots of really selfish people around here. DH is very tall; I'm super short. DH helps people he sees struggling, whether with their bags or in the grocery store trying to get stuff on the top shelf. He's a kind person. My kids (17 and 20) are tall, and even they have helped people in the airplane with their bags.

If I saw a mom with a baby and toddler trying to deal with bags and such, I'd help her. Aholes would just tell her that she shouldn't fly to go see her family.

A mom with a baby and toddler is asking for trouble trying to carry all those bags and deal with all the kids. There’s a simple solution to check the bags. It’s stupid to make things harder than they have to be.

You need formula, snacks, food, sippy cups, bottles, water for formula if its not liquid, diapers, wipes, clothing for everyone, medications, etc.

We were getting off our flight and a couple with a baby's flight was canceled and they were stranded about to finally get on board after about 14 hours at the airport and out of supplies. We saw them in a panic waiting for our stroller at the gate. Thankfully, I had extra in my car at the airport so I could clean out my stuff and give it to them, but you always need to pack at least 2-3 times what you think you need as well.

You don't need 2-3x of clothes, water bottles, snacks and food. The airport sells all of that. Just the essentials which should fit in one small bag.

Why on earth would you spend a fortune on diapers and other stuff at the airport when you can bring extra. I spend enough money on food at the airport. $20 for a burger and fries. I can't imagine how much a pack of diapers would cost there

Where on earth did I suggest you buy diapers at the airport? I specifically listed the things you should get at the airport and shockingly I didn’t say diapers or wipes. But if you’re trying to say you need 3 roll aboards worth of diapers, wipes and formula then you are full of shit. Maybe eat fewer burgers and fries for a start.

NP (and one who is a very efficient competent traveler with and without kids).

1) No one said anything about bringing on 3 roll bags either if you’re keeping score in bringing up materials not in evidence! Nor was there any evidence this poster is fat so the already far over the line fat insult doesn’t even make sense in context.

2) You absolutely need spare clothes for kids and they do not always sell it at the airport and if they do it’s generally crazy expensive.

3) Snacks and food also very expensive at the airport. And they don’t sell formula.

4) I have never seen a bottle for sale at the airport or kids cups/gear which is how you get through the flight without making a mess

5) PP clearly described why you do need extra of everything if you don’t want to spend a ton of unnecessary money in case of delays/just a long travel da

6) Generally the required accoutrement is in a diaper bag (which is not tiny although not ridiculous), a carry on and a stroller. When you add the children in this can get overwhelming.

7) Helping people costs you nothing. No one walks through life without ever experiencing a moment when the kindness of a stranger can make a great impact, if you think you have you just haven’t had your eyes open.

Tell me you’ve never flown with kids without saying you’ve never flown with kids. Tell me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk without telling me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk.

And I’m really a brand np and my kids look like they’ve been trained at the factory line in an airport they are all on point and we never hold anyone up. But the lack of humanity in this thread is why traveling has become such a garbage experience.

No one sits on their death bed regretting that time they helped an overwhelmed mom or elderly woman with their suitcase.

BS. We all know who you are. You are the people we change lines to avoid being behind at TSA.

No I’m not. But it doesn’t matter because my point is that that family you’re talking about also has a right to travel and when I see people who need a hand I lend one I don’t sit there scowling at them like a modern day Ebeneezer Scrooge

A “right” to travel. There’s the entitlement. Where is this right spelled out exactly?

People with disabilities have the right to accommodations that allow them access to things that are available to the general public, including air travel.

The Air Carrier Access Act is the law that spells this out for traveling by air.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a tall woman. I've put up and taken down plenty of suitcases for other people, particularly the elderly. I'm sympathetic as I have a 5'0" mom (tall Dad) and I've been getting stuff off shelves for her since I was 10.

+1 as a tall man. I'm happy to help. It's also way more pleasant than going through life being angry at people about their luggage.

Thank you. Lots of really selfish people around here. DH is very tall; I'm super short. DH helps people he sees struggling, whether with their bags or in the grocery store trying to get stuff on the top shelf. He's a kind person. My kids (17 and 20) are tall, and even they have helped people in the airplane with their bags.

If I saw a mom with a baby and toddler trying to deal with bags and such, I'd help her. Aholes would just tell her that she shouldn't fly to go see her family.

A mom with a baby and toddler is asking for trouble trying to carry all those bags and deal with all the kids. There’s a simple solution to check the bags. It’s stupid to make things harder than they have to be.

You need formula, snacks, food, sippy cups, bottles, water for formula if its not liquid, diapers, wipes, clothing for everyone, medications, etc.

We were getting off our flight and a couple with a baby's flight was canceled and they were stranded about to finally get on board after about 14 hours at the airport and out of supplies. We saw them in a panic waiting for our stroller at the gate. Thankfully, I had extra in my car at the airport so I could clean out my stuff and give it to them, but you always need to pack at least 2-3 times what you think you need as well.

You don't need 2-3x of clothes, water bottles, snacks and food. The airport sells all of that. Just the essentials which should fit in one small bag.

Why on earth would you spend a fortune on diapers and other stuff at the airport when you can bring extra. I spend enough money on food at the airport. $20 for a burger and fries. I can't imagine how much a pack of diapers would cost there

Where on earth did I suggest you buy diapers at the airport? I specifically listed the things you should get at the airport and shockingly I didn’t say diapers or wipes. But if you’re trying to say you need 3 roll aboards worth of diapers, wipes and formula then you are full of shit. Maybe eat fewer burgers and fries for a start.

NP (and one who is a very efficient competent traveler with and without kids).

1) No one said anything about bringing on 3 roll bags either if you’re keeping score in bringing up materials not in evidence! Nor was there any evidence this poster is fat so the already far over the line fat insult doesn’t even make sense in context.

2) You absolutely need spare clothes for kids and they do not always sell it at the airport and if they do it’s generally crazy expensive.

3) Snacks and food also very expensive at the airport. And they don’t sell formula.

4) I have never seen a bottle for sale at the airport or kids cups/gear which is how you get through the flight without making a mess

5) PP clearly described why you do need extra of everything if you don’t want to spend a ton of unnecessary money in case of delays/just a long travel da

6) Generally the required accoutrement is in a diaper bag (which is not tiny although not ridiculous), a carry on and a stroller. When you add the children in this can get overwhelming.

7) Helping people costs you nothing. No one walks through life without ever experiencing a moment when the kindness of a stranger can make a great impact, if you think you have you just haven’t had your eyes open.

Tell me you’ve never flown with kids without saying you’ve never flown with kids. Tell me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk without telling me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk.

And I’m really a brand np and my kids look like they’ve been trained at the factory line in an airport they are all on point and we never hold anyone up. But the lack of humanity in this thread is why traveling has become such a garbage experience.

No one sits on their death bed regretting that time they helped an overwhelmed mom or elderly woman with their suitcase.

If they ended up on their deathbed because they hurt themselves helping your lazy a$$ I bet they would.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a tall woman. I've put up and taken down plenty of suitcases for other people, particularly the elderly. I'm sympathetic as I have a 5'0" mom (tall Dad) and I've been getting stuff off shelves for her since I was 10.

+1 as a tall man. I'm happy to help. It's also way more pleasant than going through life being angry at people about their luggage.

Thank you. Lots of really selfish people around here. DH is very tall; I'm super short. DH helps people he sees struggling, whether with their bags or in the grocery store trying to get stuff on the top shelf. He's a kind person. My kids (17 and 20) are tall, and even they have helped people in the airplane with their bags.

If I saw a mom with a baby and toddler trying to deal with bags and such, I'd help her. Aholes would just tell her that she shouldn't fly to go see her family.

A mom with a baby and toddler is asking for trouble trying to carry all those bags and deal with all the kids. There’s a simple solution to check the bags. It’s stupid to make things harder than they have to be.

You need formula, snacks, food, sippy cups, bottles, water for formula if its not liquid, diapers, wipes, clothing for everyone, medications, etc.

We were getting off our flight and a couple with a baby's flight was canceled and they were stranded about to finally get on board after about 14 hours at the airport and out of supplies. We saw them in a panic waiting for our stroller at the gate. Thankfully, I had extra in my car at the airport so I could clean out my stuff and give it to them, but you always need to pack at least 2-3 times what you think you need as well.

You don't need 2-3x of clothes, water bottles, snacks and food. The airport sells all of that. Just the essentials which should fit in one small bag.

Why on earth would you spend a fortune on diapers and other stuff at the airport when you can bring extra. I spend enough money on food at the airport. $20 for a burger and fries. I can't imagine how much a pack of diapers would cost there

Where on earth did I suggest you buy diapers at the airport? I specifically listed the things you should get at the airport and shockingly I didn’t say diapers or wipes. But if you’re trying to say you need 3 roll aboards worth of diapers, wipes and formula then you are full of shit. Maybe eat fewer burgers and fries for a start.

NP (and one who is a very efficient competent traveler with and without kids).

1) No one said anything about bringing on 3 roll bags either if you’re keeping score in bringing up materials not in evidence! Nor was there any evidence this poster is fat so the already far over the line fat insult doesn’t even make sense in context.

2) You absolutely need spare clothes for kids and they do not always sell it at the airport and if they do it’s generally crazy expensive.

3) Snacks and food also very expensive at the airport. And they don’t sell formula.

4) I have never seen a bottle for sale at the airport or kids cups/gear which is how you get through the flight without making a mess

5) PP clearly described why you do need extra of everything if you don’t want to spend a ton of unnecessary money in case of delays/just a long travel da

6) Generally the required accoutrement is in a diaper bag (which is not tiny although not ridiculous), a carry on and a stroller. When you add the children in this can get overwhelming.

7) Helping people costs you nothing. No one walks through life without ever experiencing a moment when the kindness of a stranger can make a great impact, if you think you have you just haven’t had your eyes open.

Tell me you’ve never flown with kids without saying you’ve never flown with kids. Tell me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk without telling me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk.

And I’m really a brand np and my kids look like they’ve been trained at the factory line in an airport they are all on point and we never hold anyone up. But the lack of humanity in this thread is why traveling has become such a garbage experience.

No one sits on their death bed regretting that time they helped an overwhelmed mom or elderly woman with their suitcase.

BS. We all know who you are. You are the people we change lines to avoid being behind at TSA.

No I’m not. But it doesn’t matter because my point is that that family you’re talking about also has a right to travel and when I see people who need a hand I lend one I don’t sit there scowling at them like a modern day Ebeneezer Scrooge

A “right” to travel. There’s the entitlement. Where is this right spelled out exactly?

Exactly. Flying is not a right. It’s a privilege. And to have that privilege you follow the rules.

I assure you airlines would much prefer to accommodate a parent with a bag that goes in the overhead than an anger-prone shrew who is comfortable being nasty to strangers.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a tall woman. I've put up and taken down plenty of suitcases for other people, particularly the elderly. I'm sympathetic as I have a 5'0" mom (tall Dad) and I've been getting stuff off shelves for her since I was 10.

+1 as a tall man. I'm happy to help. It's also way more pleasant than going through life being angry at people about their luggage.

Thank you. Lots of really selfish people around here. DH is very tall; I'm super short. DH helps people he sees struggling, whether with their bags or in the grocery store trying to get stuff on the top shelf. He's a kind person. My kids (17 and 20) are tall, and even they have helped people in the airplane with their bags.

If I saw a mom with a baby and toddler trying to deal with bags and such, I'd help her. Aholes would just tell her that she shouldn't fly to go see her family.

A mom with a baby and toddler is asking for trouble trying to carry all those bags and deal with all the kids. There’s a simple solution to check the bags. It’s stupid to make things harder than they have to be.

You need formula, snacks, food, sippy cups, bottles, water for formula if its not liquid, diapers, wipes, clothing for everyone, medications, etc.

We were getting off our flight and a couple with a baby's flight was canceled and they were stranded about to finally get on board after about 14 hours at the airport and out of supplies. We saw them in a panic waiting for our stroller at the gate. Thankfully, I had extra in my car at the airport so I could clean out my stuff and give it to them, but you always need to pack at least 2-3 times what you think you need as well.

You don't need 2-3x of clothes, water bottles, snacks and food. The airport sells all of that. Just the essentials which should fit in one small bag.

Why on earth would you spend a fortune on diapers and other stuff at the airport when you can bring extra. I spend enough money on food at the airport. $20 for a burger and fries. I can't imagine how much a pack of diapers would cost there

Where on earth did I suggest you buy diapers at the airport? I specifically listed the things you should get at the airport and shockingly I didn’t say diapers or wipes. But if you’re trying to say you need 3 roll aboards worth of diapers, wipes and formula then you are full of shit. Maybe eat fewer burgers and fries for a start.

NP (and one who is a very efficient competent traveler with and without kids).

1) No one said anything about bringing on 3 roll bags either if you’re keeping score in bringing up materials not in evidence! Nor was there any evidence this poster is fat so the already far over the line fat insult doesn’t even make sense in context.

2) You absolutely need spare clothes for kids and they do not always sell it at the airport and if they do it’s generally crazy expensive.

3) Snacks and food also very expensive at the airport. And they don’t sell formula.

4) I have never seen a bottle for sale at the airport or kids cups/gear which is how you get through the flight without making a mess

5) PP clearly described why you do need extra of everything if you don’t want to spend a ton of unnecessary money in case of delays/just a long travel da

6) Generally the required accoutrement is in a diaper bag (which is not tiny although not ridiculous), a carry on and a stroller. When you add the children in this can get overwhelming.

7) Helping people costs you nothing. No one walks through life without ever experiencing a moment when the kindness of a stranger can make a great impact, if you think you have you just haven’t had your eyes open.

Tell me you’ve never flown with kids without saying you’ve never flown with kids. Tell me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk without telling me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk.

And I’m really a brand np and my kids look like they’ve been trained at the factory line in an airport they are all on point and we never hold anyone up. But the lack of humanity in this thread is why traveling has become such a garbage experience.

No one sits on their death bed regretting that time they helped an overwhelmed mom or elderly woman with their suitcase.

If they ended up on their deathbed because they hurt themselves helping your lazy a$$ I bet they would.

How many people have died from lifting a piece of luggage into the overhead bin? If you actually think that putting luggage into overhead bins is a life-threatening activity, then perhaps instead of advocating to take away the rights of disabled people, you should advocate for a redesign of airplan cabins?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a tall woman. I've put up and taken down plenty of suitcases for other people, particularly the elderly. I'm sympathetic as I have a 5'0" mom (tall Dad) and I've been getting stuff off shelves for her since I was 10.

+1 as a tall man. I'm happy to help. It's also way more pleasant than going through life being angry at people about their luggage.

Thank you. Lots of really selfish people around here. DH is very tall; I'm super short. DH helps people he sees struggling, whether with their bags or in the grocery store trying to get stuff on the top shelf. He's a kind person. My kids (17 and 20) are tall, and even they have helped people in the airplane with their bags.

If I saw a mom with a baby and toddler trying to deal with bags and such, I'd help her. Aholes would just tell her that she shouldn't fly to go see her family.

A mom with a baby and toddler is asking for trouble trying to carry all those bags and deal with all the kids. There’s a simple solution to check the bags. It’s stupid to make things harder than they have to be.

You need formula, snacks, food, sippy cups, bottles, water for formula if its not liquid, diapers, wipes, clothing for everyone, medications, etc.

We were getting off our flight and a couple with a baby's flight was canceled and they were stranded about to finally get on board after about 14 hours at the airport and out of supplies. We saw them in a panic waiting for our stroller at the gate. Thankfully, I had extra in my car at the airport so I could clean out my stuff and give it to them, but you always need to pack at least 2-3 times what you think you need as well.

You don't need 2-3x of clothes, water bottles, snacks and food. The airport sells all of that. Just the essentials which should fit in one small bag.

Why on earth would you spend a fortune on diapers and other stuff at the airport when you can bring extra. I spend enough money on food at the airport. $20 for a burger and fries. I can't imagine how much a pack of diapers would cost there

Where on earth did I suggest you buy diapers at the airport? I specifically listed the things you should get at the airport and shockingly I didn’t say diapers or wipes. But if you’re trying to say you need 3 roll aboards worth of diapers, wipes and formula then you are full of shit. Maybe eat fewer burgers and fries for a start.

NP (and one who is a very efficient competent traveler with and without kids).

1) No one said anything about bringing on 3 roll bags either if you’re keeping score in bringing up materials not in evidence! Nor was there any evidence this poster is fat so the already far over the line fat insult doesn’t even make sense in context.

2) You absolutely need spare clothes for kids and they do not always sell it at the airport and if they do it’s generally crazy expensive.

3) Snacks and food also very expensive at the airport. And they don’t sell formula.

4) I have never seen a bottle for sale at the airport or kids cups/gear which is how you get through the flight without making a mess

5) PP clearly described why you do need extra of everything if you don’t want to spend a ton of unnecessary money in case of delays/just a long travel da

6) Generally the required accoutrement is in a diaper bag (which is not tiny although not ridiculous), a carry on and a stroller. When you add the children in this can get overwhelming.

7) Helping people costs you nothing. No one walks through life without ever experiencing a moment when the kindness of a stranger can make a great impact, if you think you have you just haven’t had your eyes open.

Tell me you’ve never flown with kids without saying you’ve never flown with kids. Tell me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk without telling me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk.

And I’m really a brand np and my kids look like they’ve been trained at the factory line in an airport they are all on point and we never hold anyone up. But the lack of humanity in this thread is why traveling has become such a garbage experience.

No one sits on their death bed regretting that time they helped an overwhelmed mom or elderly woman with their suitcase.

BS. We all know who you are. You are the people we change lines to avoid being behind at TSA.

No I’m not. But it doesn’t matter because my point is that that family you’re talking about also has a right to travel and when I see people who need a hand I lend one I don’t sit there scowling at them like a modern day Ebeneezer Scrooge

A “right” to travel. There’s the entitlement. Where is this right spelled out exactly?

People with disabilities have the right to accommodations that allow them access to things that are available to the general public, including air travel.

The Air Carrier Access Act is the law that spells this out for traveling by air.

Again trying to use disabled folks’ struggle to justify your laziness. It’s actually disgusting.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a tall woman. I've put up and taken down plenty of suitcases for other people, particularly the elderly. I'm sympathetic as I have a 5'0" mom (tall Dad) and I've been getting stuff off shelves for her since I was 10.

+1 as a tall man. I'm happy to help. It's also way more pleasant than going through life being angry at people about their luggage.

Thank you. Lots of really selfish people around here. DH is very tall; I'm super short. DH helps people he sees struggling, whether with their bags or in the grocery store trying to get stuff on the top shelf. He's a kind person. My kids (17 and 20) are tall, and even they have helped people in the airplane with their bags.

If I saw a mom with a baby and toddler trying to deal with bags and such, I'd help her. Aholes would just tell her that she shouldn't fly to go see her family.

A mom with a baby and toddler is asking for trouble trying to carry all those bags and deal with all the kids. There’s a simple solution to check the bags. It’s stupid to make things harder than they have to be.

You need formula, snacks, food, sippy cups, bottles, water for formula if its not liquid, diapers, wipes, clothing for everyone, medications, etc.

We were getting off our flight and a couple with a baby's flight was canceled and they were stranded about to finally get on board after about 14 hours at the airport and out of supplies. We saw them in a panic waiting for our stroller at the gate. Thankfully, I had extra in my car at the airport so I could clean out my stuff and give it to them, but you always need to pack at least 2-3 times what you think you need as well.

You don't need 2-3x of clothes, water bottles, snacks and food. The airport sells all of that. Just the essentials which should fit in one small bag.

Why on earth would you spend a fortune on diapers and other stuff at the airport when you can bring extra. I spend enough money on food at the airport. $20 for a burger and fries. I can't imagine how much a pack of diapers would cost there

Where on earth did I suggest you buy diapers at the airport? I specifically listed the things you should get at the airport and shockingly I didn’t say diapers or wipes. But if you’re trying to say you need 3 roll aboards worth of diapers, wipes and formula then you are full of shit. Maybe eat fewer burgers and fries for a start.

NP (and one who is a very efficient competent traveler with and without kids).

1) No one said anything about bringing on 3 roll bags either if you’re keeping score in bringing up materials not in evidence! Nor was there any evidence this poster is fat so the already far over the line fat insult doesn’t even make sense in context.

2) You absolutely need spare clothes for kids and they do not always sell it at the airport and if they do it’s generally crazy expensive.

3) Snacks and food also very expensive at the airport. And they don’t sell formula.

4) I have never seen a bottle for sale at the airport or kids cups/gear which is how you get through the flight without making a mess

5) PP clearly described why you do need extra of everything if you don’t want to spend a ton of unnecessary money in case of delays/just a long travel da

6) Generally the required accoutrement is in a diaper bag (which is not tiny although not ridiculous), a carry on and a stroller. When you add the children in this can get overwhelming.

7) Helping people costs you nothing. No one walks through life without ever experiencing a moment when the kindness of a stranger can make a great impact, if you think you have you just haven’t had your eyes open.

Tell me you’ve never flown with kids without saying you’ve never flown with kids. Tell me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk without telling me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk.

And I’m really a brand np and my kids look like they’ve been trained at the factory line in an airport they are all on point and we never hold anyone up. But the lack of humanity in this thread is why traveling has become such a garbage experience.

No one sits on their death bed regretting that time they helped an overwhelmed mom or elderly woman with their suitcase.

If they ended up on their deathbed because they hurt themselves helping your lazy a$$ I bet they would.

How many people have died from lifting a piece of luggage into the overhead bin? If you actually think that putting luggage into overhead bins is a life-threatening activity, then perhaps instead of advocating to take away the rights of disabled people, you should advocate for a redesign of airplan cabins?

Why do you think FAs aren’t allowed to assist pax with their bags?