MoCo Council Vote Today

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Anonymous wrote:The next bill in this package is an SRA that Andrew Friedson introduced Tuesday. As proposed, the SRA would allow developers to combine three lots and still build under the ZTA. In effect, the SRA moves the ZTA from duplexes and small apartment buildings to apartment buildings that can stretch half a block or more, with ground floor retail in some locations and effectively no affordable housing requirements.

This is a selling point for some. Many delusional neighbors seem to think we will get artisanal cheese shops and local coffee roasters, rather than Jersey's Mike's and mattress stores. Ah, nothing like a nice Sunday morning walk to test out a new Tempur-Pedic.

Retail is a selling point for me in some locations. For the lots that are on service roads, I don’t think it makes sense. They should have excluded the lots on service roads from the ZTA because they’re not actually on the corridor itself but they decided not to.

You might not get a coffee shop or bakery, it will probably be a night club, bar, or marijuana dispensary. People are too easy to fool with distracting and dishonest campaign tactics. The end goal of the YIMBYs is to eliminate zoning entirely and allow everything anywhere. If we let them win your neighbor will be able to turn their house into a 24 strip club+bar and there will be nothing you can do to protect yourself. These zoning reforms mainly benefit the ultra wealthy who have significant investments in real estate development firms at the expense of middle class and upper middle class homeowners. The middle class people will suffer the consequences when their schools are overcrowded, noise pollution is harming their sleep quality, and secondhand smoke is worsening their kids asthma. The ultra wealthy developers lobbying for these reforms are largely unaffected because they live in exclusive neighborhoods that have rules to protect their family from their own policies and they (usually) send their kids to private school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The next bill in this package is an SRA that Andrew Friedson introduced Tuesday. As proposed, the SRA would allow developers to combine three lots and still build under the ZTA. In effect, the SRA moves the ZTA from duplexes and small apartment buildings to apartment buildings that can stretch half a block or more, with ground floor retail in some locations and effectively no affordable housing requirements.

This is a selling point for some. Many delusional neighbors seem to think we will get artisanal cheese shops and local coffee roasters, rather than Jersey's Mike's and mattress stores. Ah, nothing like a nice Sunday morning walk to test out a new Tempur-Pedic.

Retail is a selling point for me in some locations. For the lots that are on service roads, I don’t think it makes sense. They should have excluded the lots on service roads from the ZTA because they’re not actually on the corridor itself but they decided not to.

You might not get a coffee shop or bakery, it will probably be a night club, bar, or marijuana dispensary. People are too easy to fool with distracting and dishonest campaign tactics. The end goal of the YIMBYs is to eliminate zoning entirely and allow everything anywhere. If we let them win your neighbor will be able to turn their house into a 24 strip club+bar and there will be nothing you can do to protect yourself. These zoning reforms mainly benefit the ultra wealthy who have significant investments in real estate development firms at the expense of middle class and upper middle class homeowners. The middle class people will suffer the consequences when their schools are overcrowded, noise pollution is harming their sleep quality, and secondhand smoke is worsening their kids asthma. The ultra wealthy developers lobbying for these reforms are largely unaffected because they live in exclusive neighborhoods that have rules to protect their family from their own policies and they (usually) send their kids to private school.

So you're saying MoCo is going to circumvent state law and allow 24-hour liquor licenses now?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The next bill in this package is an SRA that Andrew Friedson introduced Tuesday. As proposed, the SRA would allow developers to combine three lots and still build under the ZTA. In effect, the SRA moves the ZTA from duplexes and small apartment buildings to apartment buildings that can stretch half a block or more, with ground floor retail in some locations and effectively no affordable housing requirements.

This is a selling point for some. Many delusional neighbors seem to think we will get artisanal cheese shops and local coffee roasters, rather than Jersey's Mike's and mattress stores. Ah, nothing like a nice Sunday morning walk to test out a new Tempur-Pedic.

Retail is a selling point for me in some locations. For the lots that are on service roads, I don’t think it makes sense. They should have excluded the lots on service roads from the ZTA because they’re not actually on the corridor itself but they decided not to.

You might not get a coffee shop or bakery, it will probably be a night club, bar, or marijuana dispensary. People are too easy to fool with distracting and dishonest campaign tactics. The end goal of the YIMBYs is to eliminate zoning entirely and allow everything anywhere. If we let them win your neighbor will be able to turn their house into a 24 strip club+bar and there will be nothing you can do to protect yourself. These zoning reforms mainly benefit the ultra wealthy who have significant investments in real estate development firms at the expense of middle class and upper middle class homeowners. The middle class people will suffer the consequences when their schools are overcrowded, noise pollution is harming their sleep quality, and secondhand smoke is worsening their kids asthma. The ultra wealthy developers lobbying for these reforms are largely unaffected because they live in exclusive neighborhoods that have rules to protect their family from their own policies and they (usually) send their kids to private school.

So you're saying MoCo is going to circumvent state law and allow 24-hour liquor licenses now?

I never said that. My point is MOCO is very limited in its ability to protect residents and the state is coming up with new ways to limit localities capacity to protect residents every year. I have lived next to a bar that operates late into the night before and it’s not pleasant. When you need to wake up at 5am or 6am to get to your job having a bar or restaurant that closes at 1am to 2am is a significant nuisance. Enforcement of county noise ordinances is atrocious in MOCO and residential building codes (in the US) are woefully insufficient to mitigate to impact of noise pollution.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The next bill in this package is an SRA that Andrew Friedson introduced Tuesday. As proposed, the SRA would allow developers to combine three lots and still build under the ZTA. In effect, the SRA moves the ZTA from duplexes and small apartment buildings to apartment buildings that can stretch half a block or more, with ground floor retail in some locations and effectively no affordable housing requirements.

This is a selling point for some. Many delusional neighbors seem to think we will get artisanal cheese shops and local coffee roasters, rather than Jersey's Mike's and mattress stores. Ah, nothing like a nice Sunday morning walk to test out a new Tempur-Pedic.

Retail is a selling point for me in some locations. For the lots that are on service roads, I don’t think it makes sense. They should have excluded the lots on service roads from the ZTA because they’re not actually on the corridor itself but they decided not to.

You might not get a coffee shop or bakery, it will probably be a night club, bar, or marijuana dispensary. People are too easy to fool with distracting and dishonest campaign tactics. The end goal of the YIMBYs is to eliminate zoning entirely and allow everything anywhere. If we let them win your neighbor will be able to turn their house into a 24 strip club+bar and there will be nothing you can do to protect yourself. These zoning reforms mainly benefit the ultra wealthy who have significant investments in real estate development firms at the expense of middle class and upper middle class homeowners. The middle class people will suffer the consequences when their schools are overcrowded, noise pollution is harming their sleep quality, and secondhand smoke is worsening their kids asthma. The ultra wealthy developers lobbying for these reforms are largely unaffected because they live in exclusive neighborhoods that have rules to protect their family from their own policies and they (usually) send their kids to private school.

So you're saying MoCo is going to circumvent state law and allow 24-hour liquor licenses now?

I never said that. My point is MOCO is very limited in its ability to protect residents and the state is coming up with new ways to limit localities capacity to protect residents every year. I have lived next to a bar that operates late into the night before and it’s not pleasant. When you need to wake up at 5am or 6am to get to your job having a bar or restaurant that closes at 1am to 2am is a significant nuisance. Enforcement of county noise ordinances is atrocious in MOCO and residential building codes (in the US) are woefully insufficient to mitigate to impact of noise pollution.

The whole YIMBY argument that people should “just move” if they don’t agree with proposed zoning changes is ridiculous. There is nowhere for these people that need quiet neighborhoods for (personal or health reasons) to move to if people can put a bar almost anywhere in the county.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The next bill in this package is an SRA that Andrew Friedson introduced Tuesday. As proposed, the SRA would allow developers to combine three lots and still build under the ZTA. In effect, the SRA moves the ZTA from duplexes and small apartment buildings to apartment buildings that can stretch half a block or more, with ground floor retail in some locations and effectively no affordable housing requirements.

This is a selling point for some. Many delusional neighbors seem to think we will get artisanal cheese shops and local coffee roasters, rather than Jersey's Mike's and mattress stores. Ah, nothing like a nice Sunday morning walk to test out a new Tempur-Pedic.

Retail is a selling point for me in some locations. For the lots that are on service roads, I don’t think it makes sense. They should have excluded the lots on service roads from the ZTA because they’re not actually on the corridor itself but they decided not to.

You might not get a coffee shop or bakery, it will probably be a night club, bar, or marijuana dispensary. People are too easy to fool with distracting and dishonest campaign tactics. The end goal of the YIMBYs is to eliminate zoning entirely and allow everything anywhere. If we let them win your neighbor will be able to turn their house into a 24 strip club+bar and there will be nothing you can do to protect yourself. These zoning reforms mainly benefit the ultra wealthy who have significant investments in real estate development firms at the expense of middle class and upper middle class homeowners. The middle class people will suffer the consequences when their schools are overcrowded, noise pollution is harming their sleep quality, and secondhand smoke is worsening their kids asthma. The ultra wealthy developers lobbying for these reforms are largely unaffected because they live in exclusive neighborhoods that have rules to protect their family from their own policies and they (usually) send their kids to private school.

So you're saying MoCo is going to circumvent state law and allow 24-hour liquor licenses now?

I never said that. My point is MOCO is very limited in its ability to protect residents and the state is coming up with new ways to limit localities capacity to protect residents every year. I have lived next to a bar that operates late into the night before and it’s not pleasant. When you need to wake up at 5am or 6am to get to your job having a bar or restaurant that closes at 1am to 2am is a significant nuisance. Enforcement of county noise ordinances is atrocious in MOCO and residential building codes (in the US) are woefully insufficient to mitigate to impact of noise pollution.

The whole YIMBY argument that people should “just move” if they don’t agree with proposed zoning changes is ridiculous. There is nowhere for these people that need quiet neighborhoods for (personal or health reasons) to move to if people can put a bar almost anywhere in the county.

The NIMBY argument: Just be homeless!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The next bill in this package is an SRA that Andrew Friedson introduced Tuesday. As proposed, the SRA would allow developers to combine three lots and still build under the ZTA. In effect, the SRA moves the ZTA from duplexes and small apartment buildings to apartment buildings that can stretch half a block or more, with ground floor retail in some locations and effectively no affordable housing requirements.

This is a selling point for some. Many delusional neighbors seem to think we will get artisanal cheese shops and local coffee roasters, rather than Jersey's Mike's and mattress stores. Ah, nothing like a nice Sunday morning walk to test out a new Tempur-Pedic.

Retail is a selling point for me in some locations. For the lots that are on service roads, I don’t think it makes sense. They should have excluded the lots on service roads from the ZTA because they’re not actually on the corridor itself but they decided not to.

You might not get a coffee shop or bakery, it will probably be a night club, bar, or marijuana dispensary. People are too easy to fool with distracting and dishonest campaign tactics. The end goal of the YIMBYs is to eliminate zoning entirely and allow everything anywhere. If we let them win your neighbor will be able to turn their house into a 24 strip club+bar and there will be nothing you can do to protect yourself. These zoning reforms mainly benefit the ultra wealthy who have significant investments in real estate development firms at the expense of middle class and upper middle class homeowners. The middle class people will suffer the consequences when their schools are overcrowded, noise pollution is harming their sleep quality, and secondhand smoke is worsening their kids asthma. The ultra wealthy developers lobbying for these reforms are largely unaffected because they live in exclusive neighborhoods that have rules to protect their family from their own policies and they (usually) send their kids to private school.

So you're saying MoCo is going to circumvent state law and allow 24-hour liquor licenses now?

I never said that. My point is MOCO is very limited in its ability to protect residents and the state is coming up with new ways to limit localities capacity to protect residents every year. I have lived next to a bar that operates late into the night before and it’s not pleasant. When you need to wake up at 5am or 6am to get to your job having a bar or restaurant that closes at 1am to 2am is a significant nuisance. Enforcement of county noise ordinances is atrocious in MOCO and residential building codes (in the US) are woefully insufficient to mitigate to impact of noise pollution.

The whole YIMBY argument that people should “just move” if they don’t agree with proposed zoning changes is ridiculous. There is nowhere for these people that need quiet neighborhoods for (personal or health reasons) to move to if people can put a bar almost anywhere in the county.

The NIMBY argument: Just be homeless!

No, this is what Andrew Friedson said to nurses, police officers, teachers, and firefighters when he promised them housing they could afford but then put this bill forward instead.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The next bill in this package is an SRA that Andrew Friedson introduced Tuesday. As proposed, the SRA would allow developers to combine three lots and still build under the ZTA. In effect, the SRA moves the ZTA from duplexes and small apartment buildings to apartment buildings that can stretch half a block or more, with ground floor retail in some locations and effectively no affordable housing requirements.

This is a selling point for some. Many delusional neighbors seem to think we will get artisanal cheese shops and local coffee roasters, rather than Jersey's Mike's and mattress stores. Ah, nothing like a nice Sunday morning walk to test out a new Tempur-Pedic.

Retail is a selling point for me in some locations. For the lots that are on service roads, I don’t think it makes sense. They should have excluded the lots on service roads from the ZTA because they’re not actually on the corridor itself but they decided not to.

You might not get a coffee shop or bakery, it will probably be a night club, bar, or marijuana dispensary. People are too easy to fool with distracting and dishonest campaign tactics. The end goal of the YIMBYs is to eliminate zoning entirely and allow everything anywhere. If we let them win your neighbor will be able to turn their house into a 24 strip club+bar and there will be nothing you can do to protect yourself. These zoning reforms mainly benefit the ultra wealthy who have significant investments in real estate development firms at the expense of middle class and upper middle class homeowners. The middle class people will suffer the consequences when their schools are overcrowded, noise pollution is harming their sleep quality, and secondhand smoke is worsening their kids asthma. The ultra wealthy developers lobbying for these reforms are largely unaffected because they live in exclusive neighborhoods that have rules to protect their family from their own policies and they (usually) send their kids to private school.

So you're saying MoCo is going to circumvent state law and allow 24-hour liquor licenses now?

I never said that. My point is MOCO is very limited in its ability to protect residents and the state is coming up with new ways to limit localities capacity to protect residents every year. I have lived next to a bar that operates late into the night before and it’s not pleasant. When you need to wake up at 5am or 6am to get to your job having a bar or restaurant that closes at 1am to 2am is a significant nuisance. Enforcement of county noise ordinances is atrocious in MOCO and residential building codes (in the US) are woefully insufficient to mitigate to impact of noise pollution.

The whole YIMBY argument that people should “just move” if they don’t agree with proposed zoning changes is ridiculous. There is nowhere for these people that need quiet neighborhoods for (personal or health reasons) to move to if people can put a bar almost anywhere in the county.

The NIMBY argument: Just be homeless!

I never said that either. I think that zoning changes should be deliberative and more surgical to minimize the impact on existing neighborhoods while promoting affordability. Allowing apartment buildings by-right within walksheds of the metro stations would allow 10,000's of additional units to be built without torching the quality of life for long-time residents of suburban neighborhoods.

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Anonymous wrote:The next bill in this package is an SRA that Andrew Friedson introduced Tuesday. As proposed, the SRA would allow developers to combine three lots and still build under the ZTA. In effect, the SRA moves the ZTA from duplexes and small apartment buildings to apartment buildings that can stretch half a block or more, with ground floor retail in some locations and effectively no affordable housing requirements.

This is a selling point for some. Many delusional neighbors seem to think we will get artisanal cheese shops and local coffee roasters, rather than Jersey's Mike's and mattress stores. Ah, nothing like a nice Sunday morning walk to test out a new Tempur-Pedic.

Retail is a selling point for me in some locations. For the lots that are on service roads, I don’t think it makes sense. They should have excluded the lots on service roads from the ZTA because they’re not actually on the corridor itself but they decided not to.

You might not get a coffee shop or bakery, it will probably be a night club, bar, or marijuana dispensary. People are too easy to fool with distracting and dishonest campaign tactics. The end goal of the YIMBYs is to eliminate zoning entirely and allow everything anywhere. If we let them win your neighbor will be able to turn their house into a 24 strip club+bar and there will be nothing you can do to protect yourself. These zoning reforms mainly benefit the ultra wealthy who have significant investments in real estate development firms at the expense of middle class and upper middle class homeowners. The middle class people will suffer the consequences when their schools are overcrowded, noise pollution is harming their sleep quality, and secondhand smoke is worsening their kids asthma. The ultra wealthy developers lobbying for these reforms are largely unaffected because they live in exclusive neighborhoods that have rules to protect their family from their own policies and they (usually) send their kids to private school.

So you're saying MoCo is going to circumvent state law and allow 24-hour liquor licenses now?

I never said that. My point is MOCO is very limited in its ability to protect residents and the state is coming up with new ways to limit localities capacity to protect residents every year. I have lived next to a bar that operates late into the night before and it’s not pleasant. When you need to wake up at 5am or 6am to get to your job having a bar or restaurant that closes at 1am to 2am is a significant nuisance. Enforcement of county noise ordinances is atrocious in MOCO and residential building codes (in the US) are woefully insufficient to mitigate to impact of noise pollution.

The whole YIMBY argument that people should “just move” if they don’t agree with proposed zoning changes is ridiculous. There is nowhere for these people that need quiet neighborhoods for (personal or health reasons) to move to if people can put a bar almost anywhere in the county.

The NIMBY argument: Just be homeless!

I never said that either. I think that zoning changes should be deliberative and more surgical to minimize the impact on existing neighborhoods while promoting affordability. Allowing apartment buildings by-right within walksheds of the metro stations would allow 10,000's of additional units to be built without torching the quality of life for long-time residents of suburban neighborhoods.

This zoning change is somewhat broader in scope (considering other types of public transit besides metro) than what you're suggesting, but significantly more restrictive. That is, it doesn't allow this development "by right" and more limited in density.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The next bill in this package is an SRA that Andrew Friedson introduced Tuesday. As proposed, the SRA would allow developers to combine three lots and still build under the ZTA. In effect, the SRA moves the ZTA from duplexes and small apartment buildings to apartment buildings that can stretch half a block or more, with ground floor retail in some locations and effectively no affordable housing requirements.

This is a selling point for some. Many delusional neighbors seem to think we will get artisanal cheese shops and local coffee roasters, rather than Jersey's Mike's and mattress stores. Ah, nothing like a nice Sunday morning walk to test out a new Tempur-Pedic.

Retail is a selling point for me in some locations. For the lots that are on service roads, I don’t think it makes sense. They should have excluded the lots on service roads from the ZTA because they’re not actually on the corridor itself but they decided not to.

You might not get a coffee shop or bakery, it will probably be a night club, bar, or marijuana dispensary. People are too easy to fool with distracting and dishonest campaign tactics. The end goal of the YIMBYs is to eliminate zoning entirely and allow everything anywhere. If we let them win your neighbor will be able to turn their house into a 24 strip club+bar and there will be nothing you can do to protect yourself. These zoning reforms mainly benefit the ultra wealthy who have significant investments in real estate development firms at the expense of middle class and upper middle class homeowners. The middle class people will suffer the consequences when their schools are overcrowded, noise pollution is harming their sleep quality, and secondhand smoke is worsening their kids asthma. The ultra wealthy developers lobbying for these reforms are largely unaffected because they live in exclusive neighborhoods that have rules to protect their family from their own policies and they (usually) send their kids to private school.

So you're saying MoCo is going to circumvent state law and allow 24-hour liquor licenses now?

I never said that. My point is MOCO is very limited in its ability to protect residents and the state is coming up with new ways to limit localities capacity to protect residents every year. I have lived next to a bar that operates late into the night before and it’s not pleasant. When you need to wake up at 5am or 6am to get to your job having a bar or restaurant that closes at 1am to 2am is a significant nuisance. Enforcement of county noise ordinances is atrocious in MOCO and residential building codes (in the US) are woefully insufficient to mitigate to impact of noise pollution.

The whole YIMBY argument that people should “just move” if they don’t agree with proposed zoning changes is ridiculous. There is nowhere for these people that need quiet neighborhoods for (personal or health reasons) to move to if people can put a bar almost anywhere in the county.

The NIMBY argument: Just be homeless!

This is dumb.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The next bill in this package is an SRA that Andrew Friedson introduced Tuesday. As proposed, the SRA would allow developers to combine three lots and still build under the ZTA. In effect, the SRA moves the ZTA from duplexes and small apartment buildings to apartment buildings that can stretch half a block or more, with ground floor retail in some locations and effectively no affordable housing requirements.

This is a selling point for some. Many delusional neighbors seem to think we will get artisanal cheese shops and local coffee roasters, rather than Jersey's Mike's and mattress stores. Ah, nothing like a nice Sunday morning walk to test out a new Tempur-Pedic.

Retail is a selling point for me in some locations. For the lots that are on service roads, I don’t think it makes sense. They should have excluded the lots on service roads from the ZTA because they’re not actually on the corridor itself but they decided not to.

You might not get a coffee shop or bakery, it will probably be a night club, bar, or marijuana dispensary. People are too easy to fool with distracting and dishonest campaign tactics. The end goal of the YIMBYs is to eliminate zoning entirely and allow everything anywhere. If we let them win your neighbor will be able to turn their house into a 24 strip club+bar and there will be nothing you can do to protect yourself. These zoning reforms mainly benefit the ultra wealthy who have significant investments in real estate development firms at the expense of middle class and upper middle class homeowners. The middle class people will suffer the consequences when their schools are overcrowded, noise pollution is harming their sleep quality, and secondhand smoke is worsening their kids asthma. The ultra wealthy developers lobbying for these reforms are largely unaffected because they live in exclusive neighborhoods that have rules to protect their family from their own policies and they (usually) send their kids to private school.

Since these new YIMBY housing is predominately affecting, just where are these students going to attend school? Multiple school facilities there are abysmally substandard and many are overcapacity or at capacity, even if MCPS rearranges the boundaries.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The next bill in this package is an SRA that Andrew Friedson introduced Tuesday. As proposed, the SRA would allow developers to combine three lots and still build under the ZTA. In effect, the SRA moves the ZTA from duplexes and small apartment buildings to apartment buildings that can stretch half a block or more, with ground floor retail in some locations and effectively no affordable housing requirements.

This is a selling point for some. Many delusional neighbors seem to think we will get artisanal cheese shops and local coffee roasters, rather than Jersey's Mike's and mattress stores. Ah, nothing like a nice Sunday morning walk to test out a new Tempur-Pedic.

Retail is a selling point for me in some locations. For the lots that are on service roads, I don’t think it makes sense. They should have excluded the lots on service roads from the ZTA because they’re not actually on the corridor itself but they decided not to.

You might not get a coffee shop or bakery, it will probably be a night club, bar, or marijuana dispensary. People are too easy to fool with distracting and dishonest campaign tactics. The end goal of the YIMBYs is to eliminate zoning entirely and allow everything anywhere. If we let them win your neighbor will be able to turn their house into a 24 strip club+bar and there will be nothing you can do to protect yourself. These zoning reforms mainly benefit the ultra wealthy who have significant investments in real estate development firms at the expense of middle class and upper middle class homeowners. The middle class people will suffer the consequences when their schools are overcrowded, noise pollution is harming their sleep quality, and secondhand smoke is worsening their kids asthma. The ultra wealthy developers lobbying for these reforms are largely unaffected because they live in exclusive neighborhoods that have rules to protect their family from their own policies and they (usually) send their kids to private school.

Since these new YIMBY housing is predominately affecting, just where are these students going to attend school? Multiple school facilities there are abysmally substandard and many are overcapacity or at capacity, even if MCPS rearranges the boundaries.

Since these new YIMBY housing are predominately affecting the east side...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The next bill in this package is an SRA that Andrew Friedson introduced Tuesday. As proposed, the SRA would allow developers to combine three lots and still build under the ZTA. In effect, the SRA moves the ZTA from duplexes and small apartment buildings to apartment buildings that can stretch half a block or more, with ground floor retail in some locations and effectively no affordable housing requirements.

This is a selling point for some. Many delusional neighbors seem to think we will get artisanal cheese shops and local coffee roasters, rather than Jersey's Mike's and mattress stores. Ah, nothing like a nice Sunday morning walk to test out a new Tempur-Pedic.

Retail is a selling point for me in some locations. For the lots that are on service roads, I don’t think it makes sense. They should have excluded the lots on service roads from the ZTA because they’re not actually on the corridor itself but they decided not to.

You might not get a coffee shop or bakery, it will probably be a night club, bar, or marijuana dispensary. People are too easy to fool with distracting and dishonest campaign tactics. The end goal of the YIMBYs is to eliminate zoning entirely and allow everything anywhere. If we let them win your neighbor will be able to turn their house into a 24 strip club+bar and there will be nothing you can do to protect yourself. These zoning reforms mainly benefit the ultra wealthy who have significant investments in real estate development firms at the expense of middle class and upper middle class homeowners. The middle class people will suffer the consequences when their schools are overcrowded, noise pollution is harming their sleep quality, and secondhand smoke is worsening their kids asthma. The ultra wealthy developers lobbying for these reforms are largely unaffected because they live in exclusive neighborhoods that have rules to protect their family from their own policies and they (usually) send their kids to private school.

Since these new YIMBY housing is predominately affecting, just where are these students going to attend school? Multiple school facilities there are abysmally substandard and many are overcapacity or at capacity, even if MCPS rearranges the boundaries.

Can only speak for South Four Corners, but I know Montgomerty Knolls and Pine Crest are under capacity.

Forest Knolls was overcrowded, which is why they cut off that little section of South Four Corners and rezoned it to Mont Knolls and Pine Crest. Not sure its status now. Part of SFC also goes to Flora Singer, I’m sure someone here can speak to that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The next bill in this package is an SRA that Andrew Friedson introduced Tuesday. As proposed, the SRA would allow developers to combine three lots and still build under the ZTA. In effect, the SRA moves the ZTA from duplexes and small apartment buildings to apartment buildings that can stretch half a block or more, with ground floor retail in some locations and effectively no affordable housing requirements.

This is a selling point for some. Many delusional neighbors seem to think we will get artisanal cheese shops and local coffee roasters, rather than Jersey's Mike's and mattress stores. Ah, nothing like a nice Sunday morning walk to test out a new Tempur-Pedic.

Retail is a selling point for me in some locations. For the lots that are on service roads, I don’t think it makes sense. They should have excluded the lots on service roads from the ZTA because they’re not actually on the corridor itself but they decided not to.

You might not get a coffee shop or bakery, it will probably be a night club, bar, or marijuana dispensary. People are too easy to fool with distracting and dishonest campaign tactics. The end goal of the YIMBYs is to eliminate zoning entirely and allow everything anywhere. If we let them win your neighbor will be able to turn their house into a 24 strip club+bar and there will be nothing you can do to protect yourself. These zoning reforms mainly benefit the ultra wealthy who have significant investments in real estate development firms at the expense of middle class and upper middle class homeowners. The middle class people will suffer the consequences when their schools are overcrowded, noise pollution is harming their sleep quality, and secondhand smoke is worsening their kids asthma. The ultra wealthy developers lobbying for these reforms are largely unaffected because they live in exclusive neighborhoods that have rules to protect their family from their own policies and they (usually) send their kids to private school.

Since these new YIMBY housing is predominately affecting, just where are these students going to attend school? Multiple school facilities there are abysmally substandard and many are overcapacity or at capacity, even if MCPS rearranges the boundaries.

Hint: this country (believe it or not) knows how to -GASP- build a school.

Did you know that?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The next bill in this package is an SRA that Andrew Friedson introduced Tuesday. As proposed, the SRA would allow developers to combine three lots and still build under the ZTA. In effect, the SRA moves the ZTA from duplexes and small apartment buildings to apartment buildings that can stretch half a block or more, with ground floor retail in some locations and effectively no affordable housing requirements.

This is a selling point for some. Many delusional neighbors seem to think we will get artisanal cheese shops and local coffee roasters, rather than Jersey's Mike's and mattress stores. Ah, nothing like a nice Sunday morning walk to test out a new Tempur-Pedic.

Retail is a selling point for me in some locations. For the lots that are on service roads, I don’t think it makes sense. They should have excluded the lots on service roads from the ZTA because they’re not actually on the corridor itself but they decided not to.

You might not get a coffee shop or bakery, it will probably be a night club, bar, or marijuana dispensary. People are too easy to fool with distracting and dishonest campaign tactics. The end goal of the YIMBYs is to eliminate zoning entirely and allow everything anywhere. If we let them win your neighbor will be able to turn their house into a 24 strip club+bar and there will be nothing you can do to protect yourself. These zoning reforms mainly benefit the ultra wealthy who have significant investments in real estate development firms at the expense of middle class and upper middle class homeowners. The middle class people will suffer the consequences when their schools are overcrowded, noise pollution is harming their sleep quality, and secondhand smoke is worsening their kids asthma. The ultra wealthy developers lobbying for these reforms are largely unaffected because they live in exclusive neighborhoods that have rules to protect their family from their own policies and they (usually) send their kids to private school.

Since these new YIMBY housing is predominately affecting, just where are these students going to attend school? Multiple school facilities there are abysmally substandard and many are overcapacity or at capacity, even if MCPS rearranges the boundaries.

Hint: this country (believe it or not) knows how to -GASP- build a school.

Did you know that?

The county -GASP- hasn't kept up, and they'll do what they've always done, which is to screw over education to put money in developer pockets while leaving choice areas like Potomac unaffected.

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Anonymous wrote:The next bill in this package is an SRA that Andrew Friedson introduced Tuesday. As proposed, the SRA would allow developers to combine three lots and still build under the ZTA. In effect, the SRA moves the ZTA from duplexes and small apartment buildings to apartment buildings that can stretch half a block or more, with ground floor retail in some locations and effectively no affordable housing requirements.

This is a selling point for some. Many delusional neighbors seem to think we will get artisanal cheese shops and local coffee roasters, rather than Jersey's Mike's and mattress stores. Ah, nothing like a nice Sunday morning walk to test out a new Tempur-Pedic.

Retail is a selling point for me in some locations. For the lots that are on service roads, I don’t think it makes sense. They should have excluded the lots on service roads from the ZTA because they’re not actually on the corridor itself but they decided not to.

You might not get a coffee shop or bakery, it will probably be a night club, bar, or marijuana dispensary. People are too easy to fool with distracting and dishonest campaign tactics. The end goal of the YIMBYs is to eliminate zoning entirely and allow everything anywhere. If we let them win your neighbor will be able to turn their house into a 24 strip club+bar and there will be nothing you can do to protect yourself. These zoning reforms mainly benefit the ultra wealthy who have significant investments in real estate development firms at the expense of middle class and upper middle class homeowners. The middle class people will suffer the consequences when their schools are overcrowded, noise pollution is harming their sleep quality, and secondhand smoke is worsening their kids asthma. The ultra wealthy developers lobbying for these reforms are largely unaffected because they live in exclusive neighborhoods that have rules to protect their family from their own policies and they (usually) send their kids to private school.

Since these new YIMBY housing is predominately affecting, just where are these students going to attend school? Multiple school facilities there are abysmally substandard and many are overcapacity or at capacity, even if MCPS rearranges the boundaries.

Hint: this country (believe it or not) knows how to -GASP- build a school.

Did you know that?

The county -GASP- hasn't kept up, and they'll do what they've always done, which is to screw over education to put money in developer pockets while leaving choice areas like Potomac unaffected.

Ah yes, all these evil homebuilders are bribing every single politician in the county.

Must be nice to live with a tin foil hat all the time.