Kilmar coming back

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Anonymous wrote:There are 50 Venezuelans who were in the United States legally and have never been accused, much less convicted of any crime, locked up in CECOT.

BRING THEM BACK!


THEY ARENT AMERICANS! We don’t want them.


I thought Republicans were all about "legal immigration" and doing things "the right way." I keep hearing people say that over and over again.

But it turns out, you are just a racist xenophobe.


Did he come here legally?

Nope.

He just had an order not to be removed (witholdal of removal) which doesn't negate he did't legally immigrate.


The legal immigration comment was in reference to the 50+ Venezuelans who have done nothing wrong and are rotting in a Salvadoran gulag


Nothing wrong? Surely you jest.



Pray tell. The 50 referred to at the top of this post have been studied by many. They came legally. They have no criminal records. They have not been accused of any crimes. Please explain yourself.


You are flat out wrong. They were illegal immigrants. You don’t have to be convicted of a crime to be deported.



You are flat out wrong.

https://www.cato.org/blog/50-venezuelans-imprisoned-el-salvador-came-us-legally-never-violated-immigration-law


From your article: “the government says they were illegal immigrants”

This is just a pro immigration group promoting claims the government in court has disproven.



<shaking my head> The Cato Institute is an American libertarian think tank headquartered in Washington, D.C. It was founded in 1977 by Ed Crane, Murray Rothbard, and Charles Koch.



Haha you don’t know much about Cato do you? They are for open immigration:

https://www.cato.org/immigration

Again, your own article shows that the government has reported them to be illegal. Take the loss.


You sound like a middle schooler. DHS does not even deny this.

If you have any shred of decency, or care a tiny bit about the truth, look into this. Don't even report back. AT least fifty of these men were LEGAL. You know as well as I do that the Trump administration lies constantly and cynically, just like Trump lied when he said he couldn't get Abrego Garcia back.
I don't care what they "report." It is demonstrably provable that at least fifty of the Venezuelans came into the country legally.

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Garcia is going to be tried in Tennessee. Found guilty, goes to jail for decades then deported to El Salvador. Or is sentenced and finishes out his term in El Salvador (we have done this with Mexico deportees).

Found not guilty? Still goes back to El Salvador, as his claim of fear of persecution is blown out of the water by an eyewitness saying he helped kill a mom there.

Not sure what liberals thought they were accomplishing for this man.
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Anonymous wrote:There are 50 Venezuelans who were in the United States legally and have never been accused, much less convicted of any crime, locked up in CECOT.

BRING THEM BACK!


THEY ARENT AMERICANS! We don’t want them.


I thought Republicans were all about "legal immigration" and doing things "the right way." I keep hearing people say that over and over again.

But it turns out, you are just a racist xenophobe.


Did he come here legally?

Nope.

He just had an order not to be removed (witholdal of removal) which doesn't negate he did't legally immigrate.


The legal immigration comment was in reference to the 50+ Venezuelans who have done nothing wrong and are rotting in a Salvadoran gulag


Nothing wrong? Surely you jest.



Pray tell. The 50 referred to at the top of this post have been studied by many. They came legally. They have no criminal records. They have not been accused of any crimes. Please explain yourself.


You are flat out wrong. They were illegal immigrants. You don’t have to be convicted of a crime to be deported.



You are flat out wrong.

https://www.cato.org/blog/50-venezuelans-imprisoned-el-salvador-came-us-legally-never-violated-immigration-law


From your article: “the government says they were illegal immigrants”

This is just a pro immigration group promoting claims the government in court has disproven.



<shaking my head> The Cato Institute is an American libertarian think tank headquartered in Washington, D.C. It was founded in 1977 by Ed Crane, Murray Rothbard, and Charles Koch.



Haha you don’t know much about Cato do you? They are for open immigration:

https://www.cato.org/immigration

Again, your own article shows that the government has reported them to be illegal. Take the loss.


You sound like a middle schooler. DHS does not even deny this.

If you have any shred of decency, or care a tiny bit about the truth, look into this. Don't even report back. AT least fifty of these men were LEGAL. You know as well as I do that the Trump administration lies constantly and cynically, just like Trump lied when he said he couldn't get Abrego Garcia back.
I don't care what they "report." It is demonstrably provable that at least fifty of the Venezuelans came into the country legally.



The government has reported that they are illegal. A pro immigration group alleging otherwise doesn’t change the facts on the ground.

A news article above documents one man who was alleged “legal” by Cato who was actually detained immediately on arrival by immigration because he violated terms.
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I find it fascinating that now liberals who backed the wife beating MS-13 “‘Maryland man” now want to talk about Venezuelans.

You do realize your party is now permanently linked with Garcia, right? His trial will be national news.
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Anonymous wrote:There are 50 Venezuelans who were in the United States legally and have never been accused, much less convicted of any crime, locked up in CECOT.

BRING THEM BACK!


THEY ARENT AMERICANS! We don’t want them.


I thought Republicans were all about "legal immigration" and doing things "the right way." I keep hearing people say that over and over again.

But it turns out, you are just a racist xenophobe.


Did he come here legally?

Nope.

He just had an order not to be removed (witholdal of removal) which doesn't negate he did't legally immigrate.


The legal immigration comment was in reference to the 50+ Venezuelans who have done nothing wrong and are rotting in a Salvadoran gulag


Nothing wrong? Surely you jest.



Pray tell. The 50 referred to at the top of this post have been studied by many. They came legally. They have no criminal records. They have not been accused of any crimes. Please explain yourself.


You are flat out wrong. They were illegal immigrants. You don’t have to be convicted of a crime to be deported.


This poor guy was not only legal he was seriously vetted through a Refugee program: Widmer Josneyder Agelviz Sanguino

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/immigration/article/venezuelan-refugee-deportation-lawsuit-20319604.php

This guy is a gay make-up artist. Legal. Persecuted for his sexual identity. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/venezuelan-migrants-deportations-el-salvador-prison-60-minutes/

This guy was a professional soccer player, youth soccer coach, and dad. Legal. The kids in his town march and pray together for his release. https://www.npr.org/2025/03/27/nx-s1-5341544/ice-el-salvador-jerce-reyes-barrios

Should I go on???

These innocent men are in a Salvadoran jail. Kristi Noem will likely go to jail over this.


Yeah no. Not legal immigrants. As just one example, here is your first man:

Agelviz initially traveled to the United States in September with his mother and two younger brothers as part of the U.S.’ refugee resettlement program, a process that involves extensive vetting and background checks. When they arrived at the airport in Houston, immigration agents detained Agelviz.

Documents reviewed by NBC News show that Agelviz was detained because of a tattoo on his forearm that includes a clock and a rose, images a Customs and Border Protection agent wrote are “associated” with the Venezuelan gang Tren de Aragua.

- NBC

So he showed up and was immediately detained by immigration for gang tattoos. That is NOT a legal immigrant.


You clearly don't know what the words "legal" and "illegal" mean. And it sounds like you haven't read one thing about the story.

If you are bringing up the tattoos, after how the connection between Venezuelan gangs and tattoos has been thoroughly debunked by every Venezuelan anti-gang expert as well as everyone who studies Venezuelan gangs, you are clearly new to the story. Look, the dumb tattoo vetting started under Biden so it wasn't even Trump's stupid idea. But nowhere anywhere is it written that it is "illegal" to have a tattoo, nor would that ever stand up in a court of law. But you know that and I am an idiot for trying to talk to you.
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Anonymous wrote:I find it fascinating that now liberals who backed the wife beating MS-13 “‘Maryland man” now want to talk about Venezuelans.

You do realize your party is now permanently linked with Garcia, right? His trial will be national news.


You forgot the word sham. This is disgraceful.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are 50 Venezuelans who were in the United States legally and have never been accused, much less convicted of any crime, locked up in CECOT.

BRING THEM BACK!


THEY ARENT AMERICANS! We don’t want them.


I thought Republicans were all about "legal immigration" and doing things "the right way." I keep hearing people say that over and over again.

But it turns out, you are just a racist xenophobe.


Did he come here legally?

Nope.

He just had an order not to be removed (witholdal of removal) which doesn't negate he did't legally immigrate.


The legal immigration comment was in reference to the 50+ Venezuelans who have done nothing wrong and are rotting in a Salvadoran gulag


Nothing wrong? Surely you jest.



Pray tell. The 50 referred to at the top of this post have been studied by many. They came legally. They have no criminal records. They have not been accused of any crimes. Please explain yourself.


You are flat out wrong. They were illegal immigrants. You don’t have to be convicted of a crime to be deported.



You are flat out wrong.

https://www.cato.org/blog/50-venezuelans-imprisoned-el-salvador-came-us-legally-never-violated-immigration-law


From your article: “the government says they were illegal immigrants”

This is just a pro immigration group promoting claims the government in court has disproven.



<shaking my head> The Cato Institute is an American libertarian think tank headquartered in Washington, D.C. It was founded in 1977 by Ed Crane, Murray Rothbard, and Charles Koch.



Haha you don’t know much about Cato do you? They are for open immigration:

https://www.cato.org/immigration

Again, your own article shows that the government has reported them to be illegal. Take the loss.


You sound like a middle schooler. DHS does not even deny this.

If you have any shred of decency, or care a tiny bit about the truth, look into this. Don't even report back. AT least fifty of these men were LEGAL. You know as well as I do that the Trump administration lies constantly and cynically, just like Trump lied when he said he couldn't get Abrego Garcia back.
I don't care what they "report." It is demonstrably provable that at least fifty of the Venezuelans came into the country legally.



The government has reported that they are illegal. A pro immigration group alleging otherwise doesn’t change the facts on the ground.

A news article above documents one man who was alleged “legal” by Cato who was actually detained immediately on arrival by immigration because he violated terms.


what terms???! Did Moses say, "Thou shalt not have tattoos"? What in the world are you talking about?
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Anonymous wrote:I find it fascinating that now liberals who backed the wife beating MS-13 “‘Maryland man” now want to talk about Venezuelans.

You do realize your party is now permanently linked with Garcia, right? His trial will be national news.


You forgot the word sham. This is disgraceful.


They are irremediably linked by this sham of a government, which has illegally sent them together, Venezuelans and Kilmar Abrego Garcia, to a Salvadoran prison. You're absolutely right that it's disgraceful.
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Anonymous wrote:Wonder if the esteem Senator and Congressman will start a go fundme legal fund for their constituent, a Maryland man?


If they do, a lot of us will contribute.


You’re already set to contribute. Your tax dollars will go towards jailing him and feeding him and his medical care and his trial. Then you’ll pay to deport him back to the same prison you just paid to fly him back from.
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Anonymous wrote:Wonder if the esteem Senator and Congressman will start a go fundme legal fund for their constituent, a Maryland man?


If they do, a lot of us will contribute.


You’re already set to contribute. Your tax dollars will go towards jailing him and feeding him and his medical care and his trial. Then you’ll pay to deport him back to the same prison you just paid to fly him back from.


Great.

When is the Trump administration going to go after actual criminals? So pathetic.
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Anonymous wrote:Wonder if the esteem Senator and Congressman will start a go fundme legal fund for their constituent, a Maryland man?


If they do, a lot of us will contribute.


You’re already set to contribute. Your tax dollars will go towards jailing him and feeding him and his medical care and his trial. Then you’ll pay to deport him back to the same prison you just paid to fly him back from.


Great.

When is the Trump administration going to go after actual criminals? So pathetic.


How do you know KAG isn’t a criminal?
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Anonymous wrote:Wonder if the esteem Senator and Congressman will start a go fundme legal fund for their constituent, a Maryland man?


If they do, a lot of us will contribute.


You all said this was about due process for a man sent to a country the judge had told him he couldn’t be sent to.

Now he is back so why would you continue to support a wife beating illegal? You should declare this case closed.


how is the case closed if my government is inventing bunk charges to punish him for the many wrongs they have committed?!

also, DUE PROCESS for the Venezuelans in CECOT and for the Venezuelans currently locked up in Bluebonnet Detention in Texas (many of whom are BEGGING TO BE DEPORTED rather than stay in this hellhole), who would have been sent to El Salvador for doing nothing at all if the Supreme Court had not intervened.

Yes, it is about Due Process. This administration is making a mockery of the justice department.


The grand jury has spoken. You have zero reason to believe the charges are bunk except for your desire to bash Trump. Why are you suggesting all those juror members would willingly indict an innocent person? It’s on you to explain why they would do so.


You understand that a grand jury only receives the information spoon fed to them by the prosecutors? There’s no defense presentation. As Trump has said himself, a grand jury would indict a ham sandwich.
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And…..the head of the criminal division in Nashville resigned today over the indictment. He didn’t want his name associated with this nonsense. Again, no one is saying that Abrego Garcia is innocent, but you can’t just make up charges for political reasons. That’s not how a CJ system works.
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Anonymous wrote:Wonder if the esteem Senator and Congressman will start a go fundme legal fund for their constituent, a Maryland man?


If they do, a lot of us will contribute.


You all said this was about due process for a man sent to a country the judge had told him he couldn’t be sent to.

Now he is back so why would you continue to support a wife beating illegal? You should declare this case closed.


how is the case closed if my government is inventing bunk charges to punish him for the many wrongs they have committed?!

also, DUE PROCESS for the Venezuelans in CECOT and for the Venezuelans currently locked up in Bluebonnet Detention in Texas (many of whom are BEGGING TO BE DEPORTED rather than stay in this hellhole), who would have been sent to El Salvador for doing nothing at all if the Supreme Court had not intervened.

Yes, it is about Due Process. This administration is making a mockery of the justice department.


The grand jury has spoken. You have zero reason to believe the charges are bunk except for your desire to bash Trump. Why are you suggesting all those juror members would willingly indict an innocent person? It’s on you to explain why they would do so.


You understand that a grand jury only receives the information spoon fed to them by the prosecutors? There’s no defense presentation. As Trump has said himself, a grand jury would indict a ham sandwich.


I would guess they presented the video evidence of the Tennessee stop with all the obvious human smuggling in his unregistered vehicle. Biden administration ICE chose not to come get him.

That alone seems pretty damning.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wonder if the esteem Senator and Congressman will start a go fundme legal fund for their constituent, a Maryland man?


If they do, a lot of us will contribute.


You’re already set to contribute. Your tax dollars will go towards jailing him and feeding him and his medical care and his trial. Then you’ll pay to deport him back to the same prison you just paid to fly him back from.


Great.

When is the Trump administration going to go after actual criminals? So pathetic.


They are. Every day. Far too many of them.

Just a few:

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