JMU and UVA

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I have no problem with schools financially helping qualified students who come from disadvantaged backgrounds and would make great additions to a university. I have a big problem, however, giving priority to someone solely based on their race.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have no problem with schools financially helping qualified students who come from disadvantaged backgrounds and would make great additions to a university. I have a big problem, however, giving priority to someone solely based on their race.

What’s the difference?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have no problem with schools financially helping qualified students who come from disadvantaged backgrounds and would make great additions to a university. I have a big problem, however, giving priority to someone solely based on their race.

What’s the difference?

Seriously?

"Here's a break in your tuition because your family is living below the poverty threshold, yet you have excellent grades and test scores." (race-blind)
vs.
"Here's a break in your tuition because your skin is brown."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DEI=Racism

DEI in Trumpworld = anything providing additional focus or outreach to specific groups ("poor people" is a group, targeted by efforts such as Pell grants)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have no problem with schools financially helping qualified students who come from disadvantaged backgrounds and would make great additions to a university. I have a big problem, however, giving priority to someone solely based on their race.

What’s the difference?

Seriously?

"Here's a break in your tuition because your family is living below the poverty threshold, yet you have excellent grades and test scores." (race-blind)
vs.
"Here's a break in your tuition because your skin is brown."

The student can’t control either of those things, so why do you support helping the poor student but not the student of color?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have no problem with schools financially helping qualified students who come from disadvantaged backgrounds and would make great additions to a university. I have a big problem, however, giving priority to someone solely based on their race.

What’s the difference?

Seriously?

"Here's a break in your tuition because your family is living below the poverty threshold, yet you have excellent grades and test scores." (race-blind)
vs.
"Here's a break in your tuition because your skin is brown."

The student can’t control either of those things, so why do you support helping the poor student but not the student of color?

Omg. You can’t actually be this dense… many “students of color” aren’t poor at all. Why should they get a break on tuition due SOLELY to the color of their skin?? Pell grants are not race-based, nor should they be. Your race is irrelevant.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have no problem with schools financially helping qualified students who come from disadvantaged backgrounds and would make great additions to a university. I have a big problem, however, giving priority to someone solely based on their race.

What’s the difference?

Seriously?

"Here's a break in your tuition because your family is living below the poverty threshold, yet you have excellent grades and test scores." (race-blind)
vs.
"Here's a break in your tuition because your skin is brown."

The student can’t control either of those things, so why do you support helping the poor student but not the student of color?

Omg. You can’t actually be this dense… many “students of color” aren’t poor at all. Why should they get a break on tuition due SOLELY to the color of their skin?? Pell grants are not race-based, nor should they be. Your race is irrelevant.

Why should Pell students get a boost SOLELY because they’re poor?

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Anonymous wrote:I have no problem with schools financially helping qualified students who come from disadvantaged backgrounds and would make great additions to a university. I have a big problem, however, giving priority to someone solely based on their race.

What’s the difference?

Seriously?

"Here's a break in your tuition because your family is living below the poverty threshold, yet you have excellent grades and test scores." (race-blind)
vs.
"Here's a break in your tuition because your skin is brown."

The student can’t control either of those things, so why do you support helping the poor student but not the student of color?

Omg. You can’t actually be this dense… many “students of color” aren’t poor at all. Why should they get a break on tuition due SOLELY to the color of their skin?? Pell grants are not race-based, nor should they be. Your race is irrelevant.

Why should Pell students get a boost SOLELY because they’re poor?

In part, Pell students are getting a boost because USNWR's formula gives higher scores to schools with a higher percentage of Pell Grant recipients.

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Anonymous wrote:I have no problem with schools financially helping qualified students who come from disadvantaged backgrounds and would make great additions to a university. I have a big problem, however, giving priority to someone solely based on their race.

What’s the difference?

Seriously?

"Here's a break in your tuition because your family is living below the poverty threshold, yet you have excellent grades and test scores." (race-blind)
vs.
"Here's a break in your tuition because your skin is brown."

The student can’t control either of those things, so why do you support helping the poor student but not the student of color?

Omg. You can’t actually be this dense… many “students of color” aren’t poor at all. Why should they get a break on tuition due SOLELY to the color of their skin?? Pell grants are not race-based, nor should they be. Your race is irrelevant.

Why should Pell students get a boost SOLELY because they’re poor?

In part, Pell students are getting a boost because USNWR's formula gives higher scores to schools with a higher percentage of Pell Grant recipients.

The question is for you. Why do you support a boost solely based on being poor but not solely based on race? If the kid can’t control either one, what’s the difference?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have no problem with schools financially helping qualified students who come from disadvantaged backgrounds and would make great additions to a university. I have a big problem, however, giving priority to someone solely based on their race.

What’s the difference?

Seriously?

"Here's a break in your tuition because your family is living below the poverty threshold, yet you have excellent grades and test scores." (race-blind)
vs.
"Here's a break in your tuition because your skin is brown."

The student can’t control either of those things, so why do you support helping the poor student but not the student of color?

Omg. You can’t actually be this dense… many “students of color” aren’t poor at all. Why should they get a break on tuition due SOLELY to the color of their skin?? Pell grants are not race-based, nor should they be. Your race is irrelevant.

Why should Pell students get a boost SOLELY because they’re poor?

In part, Pell students are getting a boost because USNWR's formula gives higher scores to schools with a higher percentage of Pell Grant recipients.

The question is for you. Why do you support a boost solely based on being poor but not solely based on race? If the kid can’t control either one, what’s the difference?

I don't support an admissions boost solely on being poor. If someone has demonstrably overcome adversity, that should be factored in my view.

What I was saying in my prior post is that schools are actively pursuing Pell-eligible students because of USNWR's methodology.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have no problem with schools financially helping qualified students who come from disadvantaged backgrounds and would make great additions to a university. I have a big problem, however, giving priority to someone solely based on their race.

What’s the difference?

Seriously?

"Here's a break in your tuition because your family is living below the poverty threshold, yet you have excellent grades and test scores." (race-blind)
vs.
"Here's a break in your tuition because your skin is brown."

The student can’t control either of those things, so why do you support helping the poor student but not the student of color?

Omg. You can’t actually be this dense… many “students of color” aren’t poor at all. Why should they get a break on tuition due SOLELY to the color of their skin?? Pell grants are not race-based, nor should they be. Your race is irrelevant.

Why should Pell students get a boost SOLELY because they’re poor?

In part, Pell students are getting a boost because USNWR's formula gives higher scores to schools with a higher percentage of Pell Grant recipients.

The question is for you. Why do you support a boost solely based on being poor but not solely based on race? If the kid can’t control either one, what’s the difference?

I don't support an admissions boost solely on being poor. If someone has demonstrably overcome adversity, that should be factored in my view.

What I was saying in my prior post is that schools are actively pursuing Pell-eligible students because of USNWR's methodology.

So you think that success despite being poor is overcoming adversity but success despite being a minority doesn’t demonstrate overcoming adversity?

[Anonymous]

Why are you feeding the troll? Please let this thread die.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why are you feeding the troll? Please let this thread die.

Just because you disagree doesn’t make a poster a troll.

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Anonymous wrote:I have no problem with schools financially helping qualified students who come from disadvantaged backgrounds and would make great additions to a university. I have a big problem, however, giving priority to someone solely based on their race.

What’s the difference?

Seriously?

"Here's a break in your tuition because your family is living below the poverty threshold, yet you have excellent grades and test scores." (race-blind)
vs.
"Here's a break in your tuition because your skin is brown."

The student can’t control either of those things, so why do you support helping the poor student but not the student of color?

Omg. You can’t actually be this dense… many “students of color” aren’t poor at all. Why should they get a break on tuition due SOLELY to the color of their skin?? Pell grants are not race-based, nor should they be. Your race is irrelevant.

Why should Pell students get a boost SOLELY because they’re poor?

In part, Pell students are getting a boost because USNWR's formula gives higher scores to schools with a higher percentage of Pell Grant recipients.

The question is for you. Why do you support a boost solely based on being poor but not solely based on race? If the kid can’t control either one, what’s the difference?

I don't support an admissions boost solely on being poor. If someone has demonstrably overcome adversity, that should be factored in my view.

What I was saying in my prior post is that schools are actively pursuing Pell-eligible students because of USNWR's methodology.

So you think that success despite being poor is overcoming adversity but success despite being a minority doesn’t demonstrate overcoming adversity?

That isn't what was said. You may come from a poor family, but have received a scholarship to a high quality secondary school. You could be a member of a minority but could be privileged from a financial and academic standpoint.

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Anonymous wrote:I have no problem with schools financially helping qualified students who come from disadvantaged backgrounds and would make great additions to a university. I have a big problem, however, giving priority to someone solely based on their race.

What’s the difference?

Seriously?

"Here's a break in your tuition because your family is living below the poverty threshold, yet you have excellent grades and test scores." (race-blind)
vs.
"Here's a break in your tuition because your skin is brown."

The student can’t control either of those things, so why do you support helping the poor student but not the student of color?

Omg. You can’t actually be this dense… many “students of color” aren’t poor at all. Why should they get a break on tuition due SOLELY to the color of their skin?? Pell grants are not race-based, nor should they be. Your race is irrelevant.

Why should Pell students get a boost SOLELY because they’re poor?

In part, Pell students are getting a boost because USNWR's formula gives higher scores to schools with a higher percentage of Pell Grant recipients.

The question is for you. Why do you support a boost solely based on being poor but not solely based on race? If the kid can’t control either one, what’s the difference?

I don't support an admissions boost solely on being poor. If someone has demonstrably overcome adversity, that should be factored in my view.

What I was saying in my prior post is that schools are actively pursuing Pell-eligible students because of USNWR's methodology.

So you think that success despite being poor is overcoming adversity but success despite being a minority doesn’t demonstrate overcoming adversity?

That isn't what was said. You may come from a poor family, but have received a scholarship to a high quality secondary school. You could be a member of a minority but could be privileged from a financial and academic standpoint.

Let’s make this very simple. Excluding other factors, do you accept that being poor and being a minority are both solely forms of adversity? Ex: A rich minority still faces racial adversity.