How likely for save act to pass senate?

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Anonymous wrote:What you're also asking for is that one state accept the results of another state's votes in a national election. So pass the Save Act.

No more excuses.

It's been working fine for 250 years. Literally only Trump and his MAGA cult followers have an issue with this.

No, it hasn't been working fine.

Yes, it has. There is no proof that undocumented people are voting in any numbers that would sway an election. In fact, most of the voter fraud that is documented has been by republicans. See Meadows, Mark as a prime example.

That excuse is crap. If ONE noncitizen votes in our elections, that is one too many.
I will remind you that 10 years ago, a race in VA was decided by drawing a name out of a hat because the election ended in a tie.
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/366050-tied-virginia-election-proves-every-vote-actually-does-count/amp/

Do you feel the same about citizens getting caught up by ICE? What about innocent people jailed? Or executed?

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Anonymous wrote:I changed my last name but have a passport. I’m registered to vote in PA. My sister thinks it will definitely pass and screw over all married women who changed names. I think she’s jumping the gun along with a lot people apparently on social media. Why isn’t anyone talking about this on dcum?

it will 100% screw over women who have changed names...that is part of the point.

I’m sure it’s in project 2025 or heritage documents somewhere.

This is a ludicrous claim. I took my husband’s name and have NEVER had an issue voting in states where photo ID is required. Same with all my friends.
You all are going to have to find an excuse that is not this lame.

It is not. Read the SAVE Act, it is very explicit that the birth certificate MUST match the ID, so if you were born Mary Jones but are now Mary Smith due to marriage, then you are not in compliance.

You have a marriage certificate that shows your change in name. This is not complicated.

Meanwhile, we have many states where all you have to do is check a box that says you are a US citizen. You think that is secure? It's not. There have been many instances of illegal aliens voting or registering to vote. There are other states where anyone who gets a driver's license has a voting ballot mailed to them automatically. Ironically, some of these states also permit illegal aliens to get a driver's license.

Here are just a few of the articles written about noncitizens voting. There are plenty more like this.....

https://www.justice.gov/usao-nj/pr/aliens-charged-illegally-voting-federal-election-and-making-false-statements-while
https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/19-foreign-nationals-indicted-illegally-voting-2016-elections
https://tennesseelookout.com/2025/11/03/tn-secretary-of-state-finds-42-possible-non-citizen-voters-out-states-4-3-million-voters/
https://www.opb.org/article/2024/09/23/voter-registration-noncitizen-oregon-motor-voter/
https://www.mlive.com/politics/2026/01/michigan-voter-fraud-probe-finds-noncitizen-voted-us-citizens-wrongly-flagged.html

Wow! All those links covering years and years of elections all around the country, and the total number of non-citizens who voted… is under 100. And over 40 of them were only “potential” cases. And all the articles point out how there was zero impact on the outcome of any election.

You think I linked ALL the information about noncitizens voting? Ha.
So, you think we should just wait until the effect of noncitizens voting has an impact on elections? Nope.
Ten years ago a race in VA was decided by drawing a name out of a hat because the race ended in a tie. A similar tactic was used in Michigan to determine a winner in a tied race.
And, Alaska and Kentucky had a coin flip for tied races.
https://www.wsls.com/news/politics/2022/12/02/a-coin-flip-draw-name-from-hat-bizarre-ways-election-results-have-been-decided/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What you're also asking for is that one state accept the results of another state's votes in a national election. So pass the Save Act.

No more excuses.

It's been working fine for 250 years. Literally only Trump and his MAGA cult followers have an issue with this.

No, it hasn't been working fine.

Yes, it has. There is no proof that undocumented people are voting in any numbers that would sway an election. In fact, most of the voter fraud that is documented has been by republicans. See Meadows, Mark as a prime example.

That excuse is crap. If ONE noncitizen votes in our elections, that is one too many.
I will remind you that 10 years ago, a race in VA was decided by drawing a name out of a hat because the election ended in a tie.
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/366050-tied-virginia-election-proves-every-vote-actually-does-count/amp/

So to stop your ONE noncitizen from voting, its worth disenfranchising 10 million US citizens who don't have the appropriate documents? You are a fking moron.

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Anonymous wrote:I changed my last name but have a passport. I’m registered to vote in PA. My sister thinks it will definitely pass and screw over all married women who changed names. I think she’s jumping the gun along with a lot people apparently on social media. Why isn’t anyone talking about this on dcum?

it will 100% screw over women who have changed names...that is part of the point.

I’m sure it’s in project 2025 or heritage documents somewhere.

This is a ludicrous claim. I took my husband’s name and have NEVER had an issue voting in states where photo ID is required. Same with all my friends.
You all are going to have to find an excuse that is not this lame.

It is not. Read the SAVE Act, it is very explicit that the birth certificate MUST match the ID, so if you were born Mary Jones but are now Mary Smith due to marriage, then you are not in compliance.

You have a marriage certificate that shows your change in name. This is not complicated.

Meanwhile, we have many states where all you have to do is check a box that says you are a US citizen. You think that is secure? It's not. There have been many instances of illegal aliens voting or registering to vote. There are other states where anyone who gets a driver's license has a voting ballot mailed to them automatically. Ironically, some of these states also permit illegal aliens to get a driver's license.

Here are just a few of the articles written about noncitizens voting. There are plenty more like this.....

https://www.justice.gov/usao-nj/pr/aliens-charged-illegally-voting-federal-election-and-making-false-statements-while
https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/19-foreign-nationals-indicted-illegally-voting-2016-elections
https://tennesseelookout.com/2025/11/03/tn-secretary-of-state-finds-42-possible-non-citizen-voters-out-states-4-3-million-voters/
https://www.opb.org/article/2024/09/23/voter-registration-noncitizen-oregon-motor-voter/
https://www.mlive.com/politics/2026/01/michigan-voter-fraud-probe-finds-noncitizen-voted-us-citizens-wrongly-flagged.html

As of now, under the SAFE Act, there is no provision if your birth certificate does not match your current name.

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Anonymous wrote:I changed my last name but have a passport. I’m registered to vote in PA. My sister thinks it will definitely pass and screw over all married women who changed names. I think she’s jumping the gun along with a lot people apparently on social media. Why isn’t anyone talking about this on dcum?

it will 100% screw over women who have changed names...that is part of the point.

I’m sure it’s in project 2025 or heritage documents somewhere.

This is a ludicrous claim. I took my husband’s name and have NEVER had an issue voting in states where photo ID is required. Same with all my friends.
You all are going to have to find an excuse that is not this lame.

It is not. Read the SAVE Act, it is very explicit that the birth certificate MUST match the ID, so if you were born Mary Jones but are now Mary Smith due to marriage, then you are not in compliance.

You have a marriage certificate that shows your change in name. This is not complicated.

Meanwhile, we have many states where all you have to do is check a box that says you are a US citizen. You think that is secure? It's not. There have been many instances of illegal aliens voting or registering to vote. There are other states where anyone who gets a driver's license has a voting ballot mailed to them automatically. Ironically, some of these states also permit illegal aliens to get a driver's license.

Here are just a few of the articles written about noncitizens voting. There are plenty more like this.....

https://www.justice.gov/usao-nj/pr/aliens-charged-illegally-voting-federal-election-and-making-false-statements-while
https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/19-foreign-nationals-indicted-illegally-voting-2016-elections
https://tennesseelookout.com/2025/11/03/tn-secretary-of-state-finds-42-possible-non-citizen-voters-out-states-4-3-million-voters/
https://www.opb.org/article/2024/09/23/voter-registration-noncitizen-oregon-motor-voter/
https://www.mlive.com/politics/2026/01/michigan-voter-fraud-probe-finds-noncitizen-voted-us-citizens-wrongly-flagged.html

Wow! All those links covering years and years of elections all around the country, and the total number of non-citizens who voted… is under 100. And over 40 of them were only “potential” cases. And all the articles point out how there was zero impact on the outcome of any election.

You think I linked ALL the information about noncitizens voting? Ha.
So, you think we should just wait until the effect of noncitizens voting has an impact on elections? Nope.
Ten years ago a race in VA was decided by drawing a name out of a hat because the race ended in a tie. A similar tactic was used in Michigan to determine a winner in a tied race.
And, Alaska and Kentucky had a coin flip for tied races.
https://www.wsls.com/news/politics/2022/12/02/a-coin-flip-draw-name-from-hat-bizarre-ways-election-results-have-been-decided/

and if there was any proof that an undocumented person voted in that election, their ballot would have been challenged.

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Anonymous wrote:I changed my last name but have a passport. I’m registered to vote in PA. My sister thinks it will definitely pass and screw over all married women who changed names. I think she’s jumping the gun along with a lot people apparently on social media. Why isn’t anyone talking about this on dcum?

it will 100% screw over women who have changed names...that is part of the point.

I’m sure it’s in project 2025 or heritage documents somewhere.

This is a ludicrous claim. I took my husband’s name and have NEVER had an issue voting in states where photo ID is required. Same with all my friends.
You all are going to have to find an excuse that is not this lame.

It is not. Read the SAVE Act, it is very explicit that the birth certificate MUST match the ID, so if you were born Mary Jones but are now Mary Smith due to marriage, then you are not in compliance.

You have a marriage certificate that shows your change in name. This is not complicated.

Meanwhile, we have many states where all you have to do is check a box that says you are a US citizen. You think that is secure? It's not. There have been many instances of illegal aliens voting or registering to vote. There are other states where anyone who gets a driver's license has a voting ballot mailed to them automatically. Ironically, some of these states also permit illegal aliens to get a driver's license.

Here are just a few of the articles written about noncitizens voting. There are plenty more like this.....

https://www.justice.gov/usao-nj/pr/aliens-charged-illegally-voting-federal-election-and-making-false-statements-while
https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/19-foreign-nationals-indicted-illegally-voting-2016-elections
https://tennesseelookout.com/2025/11/03/tn-secretary-of-state-finds-42-possible-non-citizen-voters-out-states-4-3-million-voters/
https://www.opb.org/article/2024/09/23/voter-registration-noncitizen-oregon-motor-voter/
https://www.mlive.com/politics/2026/01/michigan-voter-fraud-probe-finds-noncitizen-voted-us-citizens-wrongly-flagged.html

Wow! All those links covering years and years of elections all around the country, and the total number of non-citizens who voted… is under 100. And over 40 of them were only “potential” cases. And all the articles point out how there was zero impact on the outcome of any election.

You think I linked ALL the information about noncitizens voting? Ha.
So, you think we should just wait until the effect of noncitizens voting has an impact on elections? Nope.
Ten years ago a race in VA was decided by drawing a name out of a hat because the race ended in a tie. A similar tactic was used in Michigan to determine a winner in a tied race.
And, Alaska and Kentucky had a coin flip for tied races.
https://www.wsls.com/news/politics/2022/12/02/a-coin-flip-draw-name-from-hat-bizarre-ways-election-results-have-been-decided/

So where is the example of illegal voting changing the outcome of an election or coming within even 10 miles of it? You said it’s SOOOOO widespread and SOOOOO common. Where is the evidence? You found less than a hundred isolated examples of illegal voting in a country with 300 million people in it. But for that you want to force everyone to pay for ID just to exercise their constitutional rights. Get rich.

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Anonymous wrote:71% of democrats and 95% of republicans approve of requiring to show ID to vote.

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=929320492989042&id=100077332989811


As usual, DCUM is on the 20% side of an 80/20 issue.

The SAVE Act as proposed goes beyond just showing ID to vote.

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Anonymous wrote:The SAVE Act is predicated on the false belief promoted by the GOP that elections are being stolen by Dems because they have illegals voting in large numbers to swing elections blue.

Except, that's completely false. Study after study shows that the numbers of illegals proven to have voted in elections are astronomically small, nowhere near enough to swing an election.

So - passing the SAVE Act doesn't actually help Republicans from that perspective.

Will it disenfranchise legitimate, legal voters? Very likely yes. But what happens then? Likely lawsuits to hold up implementation, or legal challenges for voters purged from rolls, or challenges around provisional ballots - and longterm I don't see how Republicans come out on top there either.

Serious question to Republicans - WHY are you so heavily invested in the SAVE Act when it's probably ultimately still going to fail you?

Why are you so invested in background checks for firearms purchases that are actually implemented and not just nice words in law that never are followed?

You're either naive and uninformed or dishonest. When you say "actually implemented" it's implemented with holes so big you could float the USS Abraham Lincoln through them.

The core weakness in America’s background‑check system is that it was never designed to cover the full universe of gun transfers. Federal law only requires checks for sales by licensed dealers, leaving a massive parallel market: private sales, gun‑show transactions, online listings, and informal person‑to‑person transfers, where no check is required at all. That gap is not theoretical: a large national survey found that 45% of people who bought a gun online in the previous two years did so with no background check, meaning millions of firearms move through channels where prohibited buyers can shop freely. This loophole is so large that only 19 states and D.C. have closed it with universal background‑check laws; everywhere else, a buyer who would fail a check at a gun store can simply walk around the system and buy privately.

And even when a background check is performed, the system is built on incomplete, inconsistent, and often outdated records. The federal NICS database depends on states voluntarily submitting criminal, mental‑health, and domestic‑violence records, and the quality of those submissions varies dramatically. Domestic‑violence cases are especially prone to falling through the cracks: restraining orders, misdemeanor domestic‑violence convictions, and related court records are often missing or delayed, even though they are supposed to disqualify a buyer. Mental‑health disqualifications are even narrower - only certain adjudications or involuntary commitments count, meaning that people with documented histories of violence, threats, or severe instability often remain legally eligible to buy guns because their records never meet the technical threshold for reporting. The system screens for a tiny subset of mental‑health‑related risks, not the broader reality of dangerous behavior.

The result is a background‑check regime that looks strict on paper but is porous in practice. It blocks some prohibited buyers at licensed dealers, but it leaves open a vast unregulated market, relies on incomplete state reporting, and fails to capture many of the behavioral red flags: domestic abuse patterns, escalating threats, violent outbursts, untreated crises - red flags that correlate most strongly with gun violence. Policymakers have begun tightening rules around private sales and trafficking, but the underlying structure still allows guns to flow easily to people who would never pass a check in a fully functional system.

Sorry but you walked right into that one and it blew up on you.

Oh. You don't like incomplete and outdated records? Why?

But slipshod voter rolls are OK?

I see nothing in the Constitution about background checks to keep and bear arms. Do you?

I do see in the Constitution qualifiers such as being over 18 and being a citizen to vote.

Policymakers mean nothing. The Constitution is the highest law in the land and is not to be abrogated by statutes, US Code, state laws, or policy created by bureaucrats.

What did you walk into, pal?

Which part of the constitution says you can only vote if you have a hundred-dollar passport or special type of driver’s license only available in five states?

REAL ID is available in all 50 states.

Real ID is not sufficient to prove citizenship in the law as currently written.

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Anonymous wrote:What you're also asking for is that one state accept the results of another state's votes in a national election. So pass the Save Act.

No more excuses.

It's been working fine for 250 years. Literally only Trump and his MAGA cult followers have an issue with this.

No, it hasn't been working fine.

Yes, it has. There is no proof that undocumented people are voting in any numbers that would sway an election. In fact, most of the voter fraud that is documented has been by republicans. See Meadows, Mark as a prime example.

That excuse is crap. If ONE noncitizen votes in our elections, that is one too many.
I will remind you that 10 years ago, a race in VA was decided by drawing a name out of a hat because the election ended in a tie.
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/366050-tied-virginia-election-proves-every-vote-actually-does-count/amp/

So to stop your ONE noncitizen from voting, its worth disenfranchising 10 million US citizens who don't have the appropriate documents? You are a fking moron.

Just ignore them. It’s not a good faith argument. They just want to disenfranchise people.

[Anonymous]

Can James Bowman (birth certificate) aka JD Vance (known name now) vote under the SAVE Act?

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Anonymous wrote:Can James Bowman (birth certificate) aka JD Vance (known name now) vote under the SAVE Act?

Why of course they can....after all they are white men.

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Anonymous wrote:71% of democrats and 95% of republicans approve of requiring to show ID to vote.

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=929320492989042&id=100077332989811


As usual, DCUM is on the 20% side of an 80/20 issue.

The SAVE Act as proposed goes beyond just showing ID to vote.

+1 and if the poll had actually asked whether people approve of the specific things that are problematic in the safe act, those numbers would not be so high. The problem is that the poll asks a question that sounds innocuous and therefore has nothing to do with what’s actually in the act.

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Anonymous wrote:I changed my last name but have a passport. I’m registered to vote in PA. My sister thinks it will definitely pass and screw over all married women who changed names. I think she’s jumping the gun along with a lot people apparently on social media. Why isn’t anyone talking about this on dcum?

it will 100% screw over women who have changed names...that is part of the point.

That is the biggest crock of shit.

Apparently not because the Republicans have completely reversed course.

We told you all this was stupid and unworkable.

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No one should change their name anymore when they get married. Kids should be given a super long hyphenated name.

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Anonymous wrote:What you're also asking for is that one state accept the results of another state's votes in a national election. So pass the Save Act.

No more excuses.

It's been working fine for 250 years. Literally only Trump and his MAGA cult followers have an issue with this.

No, it hasn't been working fine.

Yes, it has. There is no proof that undocumented people are voting in any numbers that would sway an election. In fact, most of the voter fraud that is documented has been by republicans. See Meadows, Mark as a prime example.

That excuse is crap. If ONE noncitizen votes in our elections, that is one too many.
I will remind you that 10 years ago, a race in VA was decided by drawing a name out of a hat because the election ended in a tie.
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/366050-tied-virginia-election-proves-every-vote-actually-does-count/amp/

So to stop your ONE noncitizen from voting, its worth disenfranchising 10 million US citizens who don't have the appropriate documents? You are a fking moron.

Get the appropriate documents if you care to vote. It’s that’s simple.

Your feelings do not override legitimate voting.