Redshirting consequences at Lafayette

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can’t they stay in private for K next year and the year after come back to DCPS for grade 1?

Yes - but that would be inconvenient for these families.

They want to navigate public education on their terms.

You’re clearly ignorant because that’s not actually what DCPS is allowing.

They told these families they would be put into 2nd grade next year if they did this.

#factsmatter

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They're planning to testify at the SBOE hearing next week presumably about how it's incredibly unfair that DCPS is enforcing its own policy. It is spearheaded by a Lafayette parent as I understand.

The letter they're circulating uses some pretty extreme language saying kindergarten access is being threatened if your child was born before September 30th and leads to a lot of confusion. It's actually pretty gross to try and scare parents about something that absolutely will not threaten their kid's access to kindergarten but they seem to be targeting UMC PTOs too which is equally gross.

If the SBOE or DCPS give any air to this I’m going to be so angry. There are kindergarteners in DCPS exposed to mold and lead in their dilapidated buildings but no lets focus on rich parents whining because they didn’t get their way.

I testified before the DC Council for the dyslexia bill.
I wish these parents sat there and listened to real problems with DCPS as opposed to their own self created drama.

Real problems - having qualified teachers for home bound children (due to medical issues)
Real problems - DCPS not providing special education services to students who have identified needs because a teacher does not believe the diagnosis
Fake problem - paying for private PreK for your K age child and outrage when the school enforces their policy.

Real problems: not knowing the real problem
Real problems: not being trustworthy because you’re making things up 🤷‍♀️🤷🤷‍♂️

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They're planning to testify at the SBOE hearing next week presumably about how it's incredibly unfair that DCPS is enforcing its own policy. It is spearheaded by a Lafayette parent as I understand.

The letter they're circulating uses some pretty extreme language saying kindergarten access is being threatened if your child was born before September 30th and leads to a lot of confusion. It's actually pretty gross to try and scare parents about something that absolutely will not threaten their kid's access to kindergarten but they seem to be targeting UMC PTOs too which is equally gross.

Wow, I would not have expected they would take it so far, as it is, frankly, embarrassing. Are they arguing that it is unjust that the very clear policy is being enforced against them? Or are they trying to get the policy changed for the future? This feels like FAFO territory to me.

That being said- I will be intrigued to see if there is any appetite to change the policy. I think there are good arguments both in favor and against it. But selfishly, both of my children have late september birthdays and will start DCPS pk3 while still 2 years old, Kindergarten at 4 years old, HS at 13 and College while still 17. I do worry about this quite a bit and would like the option to hold them. It seems like most things I read state that it is not in the child's best interest to go to K at 4, especially boys (both of mine are). But alas, I am not a fancy upper NW parent. I live in NE. Our schools on this side of town follow the age rules as far as I am aware. Either way I would never expect to try to blatantly flaunt the rules and then cry when I get caught.

People like you are terrifying because you have no idea what you’re talking about. Including that your school is most definitely doing exactly what the Lafayette families are asking for. DCPS has been doing this for years.

I’m sorry for your children that you are concerned for them but won’t figure out a solution in their best interest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They're planning to testify at the SBOE hearing next week presumably about how it's incredibly unfair that DCPS is enforcing its own policy. It is spearheaded by a Lafayette parent as I understand.

The letter they're circulating uses some pretty extreme language saying kindergarten access is being threatened if your child was born before September 30th and leads to a lot of confusion. It's actually pretty gross to try and scare parents about something that absolutely will not threaten their kid's access to kindergarten but they seem to be targeting UMC PTOs too which is equally gross.

Wow, I would not have expected they would take it so far, as it is, frankly, embarrassing. Are they arguing that it is unjust that the very clear policy is being enforced against them? Or are they trying to get the policy changed for the future? This feels like FAFO territory to me.

That being said- I will be intrigued to see if there is any appetite to change the policy. I think there are good arguments both in favor and against it. But selfishly, both of my children have late september birthdays and will start DCPS pk3 while still 2 years old, Kindergarten at 4 years old, HS at 13 and College while still 17. I do worry about this quite a bit and would like the option to hold them. It seems like most things I read state that it is not in the child's best interest to go to K at 4, especially boys (both of mine are). But alas, I am not a fancy upper NW parent. I live in NE. Our schools on this side of town follow the age rules as far as I am aware. Either way I would never expect to try to blatantly flaunt the rules and then cry when I get caught.

People like you are terrifying because you have no idea what you’re talking about. Including that your school is most definitely doing exactly what the Lafayette families are asking for. DCPS has been doing this for years.

I’m sorry for your children that you are concerned for them but won’t figure out a solution in their best interest.

Looks like one of the moms finally showed up. This post makes no sense though. Were you replying to a different post?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They're planning to testify at the SBOE hearing next week presumably about how it's incredibly unfair that DCPS is enforcing its own policy. It is spearheaded by a Lafayette parent as I understand.

The letter they're circulating uses some pretty extreme language saying kindergarten access is being threatened if your child was born before September 30th and leads to a lot of confusion. It's actually pretty gross to try and scare parents about something that absolutely will not threaten their kid's access to kindergarten but they seem to be targeting UMC PTOs too which is equally gross.

If the SBOE or DCPS give any air to this I’m going to be so angry. There are kindergarteners in DCPS exposed to mold and lead in their dilapidated buildings but no lets focus on rich parents whining because they didn’t get their way.

There are elementary in SE that regularly get shot up.

Is this comment meant to one up mine or show how ridiculous these parents are? If the former don’t worry my kid’s school goes on lockdown frequently enough due to gun violence right outside of the school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They're planning to testify at the SBOE hearing next week presumably about how it's incredibly unfair that DCPS is enforcing its own policy. It is spearheaded by a Lafayette parent as I understand.

The letter they're circulating uses some pretty extreme language saying kindergarten access is being threatened if your child was born before September 30th and leads to a lot of confusion. It's actually pretty gross to try and scare parents about something that absolutely will not threaten their kid's access to kindergarten but they seem to be targeting UMC PTOs too which is equally gross.

If the SBOE or DCPS give any air to this I’m going to be so angry. There are kindergarteners in DCPS exposed to mold and lead in their dilapidated buildings but no lets focus on rich parents whining because they didn’t get their way.

Tell that outrage to the idiot DCPS person who referred child protective services to these parents. Taking time and resources away from families who really need it for a publicity stunt.

Please get facts straight, DCPS doesn’t have a policy. It’s a date at which children born before are entitled to kindergarten. Not that they must enter kindergarten.

It’s really amazing how easy it is for people to make up their own alternative facts.

Kindergarten is compulsory. Not just an entitlement. What are you talking about? If you are 5 by September 30 you are enrolled in K. If you are 6 by September 30 you are enrolled in 1st.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They're planning to testify at the SBOE hearing next week presumably about how it's incredibly unfair that DCPS is enforcing its own policy. It is spearheaded by a Lafayette parent as I understand.

The letter they're circulating uses some pretty extreme language saying kindergarten access is being threatened if your child was born before September 30th and leads to a lot of confusion. It's actually pretty gross to try and scare parents about something that absolutely will not threaten their kid's access to kindergarten but they seem to be targeting UMC PTOs too which is equally gross.

If the SBOE or DCPS give any air to this I’m going to be so angry. There are kindergarteners in DCPS exposed to mold and lead in their dilapidated buildings but no lets focus on rich parents whining because they didn’t get their way.

Tell that outrage to the idiot DCPS person who referred child protective services to these parents. Taking time and resources away from families who really need it for a publicity stunt.

Please get facts straight, DCPS doesn’t have a policy. It’s a date at which children born before are entitled to kindergarten. Not that they must enter kindergarten.

It’s really amazing how easy it is for people to make up their own alternative facts.

It’s not a “policy” so much as it is “the law.” They absolutely are required by law to enter kindergarten if they are 5 by the cut off.

§ 38–202. Establishment of school attendance requirements.

(a) Every parent, guardian, or other person, who resides permanently or temporarily in the District during any school year and who has custody or control of a minor who has reached the age of 5 years or will become 5 years of age on or before September 30th of the current school year shall place the minor in regular attendance in an educational institution during the period of each year when the public schools of the District are in session.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Any cutoff has to be strictly enforced. That is the only way to be fair in thr district. Ita ridiculous these parents are asking for special treatment, but this seems to be a symptom of many families in this city.

I think in a perfect world I would actually prefer that schools have the flexibility to meet students where they are and give them another year (or start them early!) as appropriate. The strictness is kind of silly. But the worst and most unfair is being strict for some but not for others, which is apparently what is happening now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They're planning to testify at the SBOE hearing next week presumably about how it's incredibly unfair that DCPS is enforcing its own policy. It is spearheaded by a Lafayette parent as I understand.

The letter they're circulating uses some pretty extreme language saying kindergarten access is being threatened if your child was born before September 30th and leads to a lot of confusion. It's actually pretty gross to try and scare parents about something that absolutely will not threaten their kid's access to kindergarten but they seem to be targeting UMC PTOs too which is equally gross.

If the SBOE or DCPS give any air to this I’m going to be so angry. There are kindergarteners in DCPS exposed to mold and lead in their dilapidated buildings but no lets focus on rich parents whining because they didn’t get their way.

Tell that outrage to the idiot DCPS person who referred child protective services to these parents. Taking time and resources away from families who really need it for a publicity stunt.

Please get facts straight, DCPS doesn’t have a policy. It’s a date at which children born before are entitled to kindergarten. Not that they must enter kindergarten.

It’s really amazing how easy it is for people to make up their own alternative facts.

It’s not a “policy” so much as it is “the law.” They absolutely are required by law to enter kindergarten if they are 5 by the cut off.

§ 38–202. Establishment of school attendance requirements.

(a) Every parent, guardian, or other person, who resides permanently or temporarily in the District during any school year and who has custody or control of a minor who has reached the age of 5 years or will become 5 years of age on or before September 30th of the current school year shall place the minor in regular attendance in an educational institution during the period of each year when the public schools of the District are in session.

Please read what you posted.

School for children who turn 5 on or before 9/30 is compulsory. There is *NO* requirement that those children be enrolled in a particular grade.

NOTABLY there no requirement that if a child turn 6 before 9/30 they MUST be put into 1st grade.

That is made up. Please. If you’re going to comment about entitlement do know what you’re talking about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They're planning to testify at the SBOE hearing next week presumably about how it's incredibly unfair that DCPS is enforcing its own policy. It is spearheaded by a Lafayette parent as I understand.

The letter they're circulating uses some pretty extreme language saying kindergarten access is being threatened if your child was born before September 30th and leads to a lot of confusion. It's actually pretty gross to try and scare parents about something that absolutely will not threaten their kid's access to kindergarten but they seem to be targeting UMC PTOs too which is equally gross.

If the SBOE or DCPS give any air to this I’m going to be so angry. There are kindergarteners in DCPS exposed to mold and lead in their dilapidated buildings but no lets focus on rich parents whining because they didn’t get their way.

Tell that outrage to the idiot DCPS person who referred child protective services to these parents. Taking time and resources away from families who really need it for a publicity stunt.

Please get facts straight, DCPS doesn’t have a policy. It’s a date at which children born before are entitled to kindergarten. Not that they must enter kindergarten.

It’s really amazing how easy it is for people to make up their own alternative facts.

It’s not a “policy” so much as it is “the law.” They absolutely are required by law to enter kindergarten if they are 5 by the cut off.

§ 38–202. Establishment of school attendance requirements.

(a) Every parent, guardian, or other person, who resides permanently or temporarily in the District during any school year and who has custody or control of a minor who has reached the age of 5 years or will become 5 years of age on or before September 30th of the current school year shall place the minor in regular attendance in an educational institution during the period of each year when the public schools of the District are in session.

Please read what you posted.

School for children who turn 5 on or before 9/30 is compulsory. There is *NO* requirement that those children be enrolled in a particular grade.

NOTABLY there no requirement that if a child turn 6 before 9/30 they MUST be put into 1st grade.

That is made up. Please. If you’re going to comment about entitlement do know what you’re talking about.

DP here, yes! It is exactly that. At 5, children have to be enrolled in a school or officially reported to be homeschooled, which is also accepted.
Also 6 year old is still acceptable for Kindergarten. Many kids would be 5/6 yr old based on their birth date.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They're planning to testify at the SBOE hearing next week presumably about how it's incredibly unfair that DCPS is enforcing its own policy. It is spearheaded by a Lafayette parent as I understand.

The letter they're circulating uses some pretty extreme language saying kindergarten access is being threatened if your child was born before September 30th and leads to a lot of confusion. It's actually pretty gross to try and scare parents about something that absolutely will not threaten their kid's access to kindergarten but they seem to be targeting UMC PTOs too which is equally gross.

If the SBOE or DCPS give any air to this I’m going to be so angry. There are kindergarteners in DCPS exposed to mold and lead in their dilapidated buildings but no lets focus on rich parents whining because they didn’t get their way.

Tell that outrage to the idiot DCPS person who referred child protective services to these parents. Taking time and resources away from families who really need it for a publicity stunt.

Please get facts straight, DCPS doesn’t have a policy. It’s a date at which children born before are entitled to kindergarten. Not that they must enter kindergarten.

It’s really amazing how easy it is for people to make up their own alternative facts.

It’s not a “policy” so much as it is “the law.” They absolutely are required by law to enter kindergarten if they are 5 by the cut off.

§ 38–202. Establishment of school attendance requirements.

(a) Every parent, guardian, or other person, who resides permanently or temporarily in the District during any school year and who has custody or control of a minor who has reached the age of 5 years or will become 5 years of age on or before September 30th of the current school year shall place the minor in regular attendance in an educational institution during the period of each year when the public schools of the District are in session.

Please read what you posted.

School for children who turn 5 on or before 9/30 is compulsory. There is *NO* requirement that those children be enrolled in a particular grade.

NOTABLY there no requirement that if a child turn 6 before 9/30 they MUST be put into 1st grade.

That is made up. Please. If you’re going to comment about entitlement do know what you’re talking about.

Yes, its my understanding that there is a min age requirement, but not a max.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They're planning to testify at the SBOE hearing next week presumably about how it's incredibly unfair that DCPS is enforcing its own policy. It is spearheaded by a Lafayette parent as I understand.

The letter they're circulating uses some pretty extreme language saying kindergarten access is being threatened if your child was born before September 30th and leads to a lot of confusion. It's actually pretty gross to try and scare parents about something that absolutely will not threaten their kid's access to kindergarten but they seem to be targeting UMC PTOs too which is equally gross.

If the SBOE or DCPS give any air to this I’m going to be so angry. There are kindergarteners in DCPS exposed to mold and lead in their dilapidated buildings but no lets focus on rich parents whining because they didn’t get their way.

Tell that outrage to the idiot DCPS person who referred child protective services to these parents. Taking time and resources away from families who really need it for a publicity stunt.

Please get facts straight, DCPS doesn’t have a policy. It’s a date at which children born before are entitled to kindergarten. Not that they must enter kindergarten.

It’s really amazing how easy it is for people to make up their own alternative facts.

It’s not a “policy” so much as it is “the law.” They absolutely are required by law to enter kindergarten if they are 5 by the cut off.

§ 38–202. Establishment of school attendance requirements.

(a) Every parent, guardian, or other person, who resides permanently or temporarily in the District during any school year and who has custody or control of a minor who has reached the age of 5 years or will become 5 years of age on or before September 30th of the current school year shall place the minor in regular attendance in an educational institution during the period of each year when the public schools of the District are in session.

Please read what you posted.

School for children who turn 5 on or before 9/30 is compulsory. There is *NO* requirement that those children be enrolled in a particular grade.

NOTABLY there no requirement that if a child turn 6 before 9/30 they MUST be put into 1st grade.

That is made up. Please. If you’re going to comment about entitlement do know what you’re talking about.

This is correct and why DC cannot tell private schools they cannot redshirt. The second part, the matriculation age, is DCPS policy.

Look I'm sorry people want to buy their kids an extra year of school so they can be a bench athlete at low major school but parents are aware of DCPS policy and the fact that a principal buddied up with parents and let them do it and the school is now saying no is not threatening kindergarten access for all DCPS students as the Lafayette lobbying suggests.

There are certainly arguments about DCPS allowing for flexibility in holding students back when assessments have proven it necessary but that's not what this is and it's frankly offensive how the parents are treating this situation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They're planning to testify at the SBOE hearing next week presumably about how it's incredibly unfair that DCPS is enforcing its own policy. It is spearheaded by a Lafayette parent as I understand.

The letter they're circulating uses some pretty extreme language saying kindergarten access is being threatened if your child was born before September 30th and leads to a lot of confusion. It's actually pretty gross to try and scare parents about something that absolutely will not threaten their kid's access to kindergarten but they seem to be targeting UMC PTOs too which is equally gross.

If the SBOE or DCPS give any air to this I’m going to be so angry. There are kindergarteners in DCPS exposed to mold and lead in their dilapidated buildings but no lets focus on rich parents whining because they didn’t get their way.

Tell that outrage to the idiot DCPS person who referred child protective services to these parents. Taking time and resources away from families who really need it for a publicity stunt.

Please get facts straight, DCPS doesn’t have a policy. It’s a date at which children born before are entitled to kindergarten. Not that they must enter kindergarten.

It’s really amazing how easy it is for people to make up their own alternative facts.

It wasn't like these families were shying away from the cameras WRT being "found" for CPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They're planning to testify at the SBOE hearing next week presumably about how it's incredibly unfair that DCPS is enforcing its own policy. It is spearheaded by a Lafayette parent as I understand.

The letter they're circulating uses some pretty extreme language saying kindergarten access is being threatened if your child was born before September 30th and leads to a lot of confusion. It's actually pretty gross to try and scare parents about something that absolutely will not threaten their kid's access to kindergarten but they seem to be targeting UMC PTOs too which is equally gross.

If the SBOE or DCPS give any air to this I’m going to be so angry. There are kindergarteners in DCPS exposed to mold and lead in their dilapidated buildings but no lets focus on rich parents whining because they didn’t get their way.

Tell that outrage to the idiot DCPS person who referred child protective services to these parents. Taking time and resources away from families who really need it for a publicity stunt.

Please get facts straight, DCPS doesn’t have a policy. It’s a date at which children born before are entitled to kindergarten. Not that they must enter kindergarten.

It’s really amazing how easy it is for people to make up their own alternative facts.

This is blatantly untrue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They're planning to testify at the SBOE hearing next week presumably about how it's incredibly unfair that DCPS is enforcing its own policy. It is spearheaded by a Lafayette parent as I understand.

The letter they're circulating uses some pretty extreme language saying kindergarten access is being threatened if your child was born before September 30th and leads to a lot of confusion. It's actually pretty gross to try and scare parents about something that absolutely will not threaten their kid's access to kindergarten but they seem to be targeting UMC PTOs too which is equally gross.

If the SBOE or DCPS give any air to this I’m going to be so angry. There are kindergarteners in DCPS exposed to mold and lead in their dilapidated buildings but no lets focus on rich parents whining because they didn’t get their way.

Tell that outrage to the idiot DCPS person who referred child protective services to these parents. Taking time and resources away from families who really need it for a publicity stunt.

Please get facts straight, DCPS doesn’t have a policy. It’s a date at which children born before are entitled to kindergarten. Not that they must enter kindergarten.

It’s really amazing how easy it is for people to make up their own alternative facts.

This is wrong. The law is that kids must be in school by 5. A date by which they MUST be in school (not a date where if you're born before that you're entitled to be in K... that doesn't even make any sense and would mean any child below X date is entitled to start K... even if they're 2). DCPS POLICY is that kids are placed into school according to an age cut off. If you think DC doesn't have a *policy*, I assume you think I can choose any grade I want for any of my children?