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Just go private — where admission may well be conditioned on redshirting your boy!

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine if these parents devoted as much energy to getting their kids IEPs or tutoring instead of trying to get them enrolled in kindergarten. If their kids are really so much slower at learning than other kids in the neighborhood, what magic do they think is going to happen in kindergarten?

It's really obvious the kids have no special needs and the parents know it. They don't want to get their kid an IEP or a tutor, they want their son to effortlessly excel and be told by every teacher that he's the very smartest, the tallest, the cleverest, the most impressive kid in the grade. If it's not looking like something that's going to happen organically they'll just put them in a class with younger kids so they "stand out" the way mom and dad wanted/expected them to.

It's funny because I'm from Texas where redshirting parents are *extremely* upfront about this - they want their sons to have the height/weight/testosterone/muscle advantage when they get to high school so they can start on their sports teams and maybe even get a scholarship. In DC people want the same thing - an unearned advantage for their son - but twist themselves into pretzels to pretend that they aren't trying to rig the system. In fact, they pretend the system is the unfair thing! How could they say that kids with a certain birthday should enroll by a certain date and then . . . have the nerve to enforce it??! Rules that apply to other kids also apply to my kid? How is that fair? Not for my dear Henry!

Texas is NOT DC. Name one wealthy parent who cares about football. Most won’t even let their children play football

Yes. This is the point. Both wealthy DC and Texas parents want their kids to redshirt for advantages, just different advantages. It's just the Texas parents are upfront about it.

If for whatever reason you think my kid is in competition with your kid, that’s very funny to me. They’re not in competition.

OK, Avra.
Tell it to your reporter friends.
Maybe your kid is not in competition with anyone but you sure seem to be.

It sounds like Avra is exactly the kind of person you want fighting for DCPS, not against.

Central office being laid-off, threat of Trump’s involvement in DCPS loom, and elite support, which was already low, only falls.

Good job DCPS, and good luck.

DP but this makes no sense. There's nothing about these parents that say they give a single fig about DCPS as a whole. The only defining characteristics they have demonstrated in their interviews are self interest and entitlement.

This. They're fighting their UNW school to give their own kid an advantage and even wrote the proposed rules to slam the door behind them in two years. They don't care about DCPS or kids EotP. They care singularly about their children and only their children. And frankly given she's running around telling every news outlet her almost six year old doesn't know the alphabet, stuff that will live on the Internet for a good long time, I'm questioning how much the kid's best interest is really at play here.

She gives communications strategists a bad name. I cannot, under any circumstances, imagine disparaging my child, their intelligence and my faith in their abilities to multiple news outlets, with an interestingly increasing level of hysteria. I genuinely feel bad for that kid and the brother (who also gets drug through the mud as being a redshirt who was still not prepared for school despite being held back) … it’s shocking she can’t see that these interviews will only serve to haunt them as they get older.

You don’t think she’d call her journalist friends if Trump tries to take over?

It doesn’t matter. You can call yours.

This woman said not one iota about the $1b Trump and Republicans are preventing DC from using at the expense of our schools.

So even if this woman were, as PP said, Olivia Pope she's done not a single thing to help a child not her own in this city. She is instead playing right into the hands of those who hate our city the most. So no she's not someone you want on your side to help engage DCPS any more than Amy Coney Barrett is someone you want on your side for women's rights simply because she's a woman.

Well you keep that burning resentment alive until all wealthy people leave DCPS then.

So... rich people should get to have one set of rules, and then everyone below a certain income threshold plays by another? I cannot fathom why you think that's good policy.

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine if these parents devoted as much energy to getting their kids IEPs or tutoring instead of trying to get them enrolled in kindergarten. If their kids are really so much slower at learning than other kids in the neighborhood, what magic do they think is going to happen in kindergarten?

It's really obvious the kids have no special needs and the parents know it. They don't want to get their kid an IEP or a tutor, they want their son to effortlessly excel and be told by every teacher that he's the very smartest, the tallest, the cleverest, the most impressive kid in the grade. If it's not looking like something that's going to happen organically they'll just put them in a class with younger kids so they "stand out" the way mom and dad wanted/expected them to.

It's funny because I'm from Texas where redshirting parents are *extremely* upfront about this - they want their sons to have the height/weight/testosterone/muscle advantage when they get to high school so they can start on their sports teams and maybe even get a scholarship. In DC people want the same thing - an unearned advantage for their son - but twist themselves into pretzels to pretend that they aren't trying to rig the system. In fact, they pretend the system is the unfair thing! How could they say that kids with a certain birthday should enroll by a certain date and then . . . have the nerve to enforce it??! Rules that apply to other kids also apply to my kid? How is that fair? Not for my dear Henry!

Texas is NOT DC. Name one wealthy parent who cares about football. Most won’t even let their children play football

Yes. This is the point. Both wealthy DC and Texas parents want their kids to redshirt for advantages, just different advantages. It's just the Texas parents are upfront about it.

If for whatever reason you think my kid is in competition with your kid, that’s very funny to me. They’re not in competition.

OK, Avra.
Tell it to your reporter friends.
Maybe your kid is not in competition with anyone but you sure seem to be.

It sounds like Avra is exactly the kind of person you want fighting for DCPS, not against.

Central office being laid-off, threat of Trump’s involvement in DCPS loom, and elite support, which was already low, only falls.

Good job DCPS, and good luck.

DP but this makes no sense. There's nothing about these parents that say they give a single fig about DCPS as a whole. The only defining characteristics they have demonstrated in their interviews are self interest and entitlement.

This. They're fighting their UNW school to give their own kid an advantage and even wrote the proposed rules to slam the door behind them in two years. They don't care about DCPS or kids EotP. They care singularly about their children and only their children. And frankly given she's running around telling every news outlet her almost six year old doesn't know the alphabet, stuff that will live on the Internet for a good long time, I'm questioning how much the kid's best interest is really at play here.

She gives communications strategists a bad name. I cannot, under any circumstances, imagine disparaging my child, their intelligence and my faith in their abilities to multiple news outlets, with an interestingly increasing level of hysteria. I genuinely feel bad for that kid and the brother (who also gets drug through the mud as being a redshirt who was still not prepared for school despite being held back) … it’s shocking she can’t see that these interviews will only serve to haunt them as they get older.

You don’t think she’d call her journalist friends if Trump tries to take over?

It doesn’t matter. You can call yours.

This woman said not one iota about the $1b Trump and Republicans are preventing DC from using at the expense of our schools.

So even if this woman were, as PP said, Olivia Pope she's done not a single thing to help a child not her own in this city. She is instead playing right into the hands of those who hate our city the most. So no she's not someone you want on your side to help engage DCPS any more than Amy Coney Barrett is someone you want on your side for women's rights simply because she's a woman.

Well you keep that burning resentment alive until all wealthy people leave DCPS then.

So... rich people should get to have one set of rules, and then everyone below a certain income threshold plays by another? I cannot fathom why you think that's good policy.

Some things just aren’t possible at scale in a large public system.

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine if these parents devoted as much energy to getting their kids IEPs or tutoring instead of trying to get them enrolled in kindergarten. If their kids are really so much slower at learning than other kids in the neighborhood, what magic do they think is going to happen in kindergarten?

It's really obvious the kids have no special needs and the parents know it. They don't want to get their kid an IEP or a tutor, they want their son to effortlessly excel and be told by every teacher that he's the very smartest, the tallest, the cleverest, the most impressive kid in the grade. If it's not looking like something that's going to happen organically they'll just put them in a class with younger kids so they "stand out" the way mom and dad wanted/expected them to.

It's funny because I'm from Texas where redshirting parents are *extremely* upfront about this - they want their sons to have the height/weight/testosterone/muscle advantage when they get to high school so they can start on their sports teams and maybe even get a scholarship. In DC people want the same thing - an unearned advantage for their son - but twist themselves into pretzels to pretend that they aren't trying to rig the system. In fact, they pretend the system is the unfair thing! How could they say that kids with a certain birthday should enroll by a certain date and then . . . have the nerve to enforce it??! Rules that apply to other kids also apply to my kid? How is that fair? Not for my dear Henry!

Texas is NOT DC. Name one wealthy parent who cares about football. Most won’t even let their children play football

Yes. This is the point. Both wealthy DC and Texas parents want their kids to redshirt for advantages, just different advantages. It's just the Texas parents are upfront about it.

If for whatever reason you think my kid is in competition with your kid, that’s very funny to me. They’re not in competition.

OK, Avra.
Tell it to your reporter friends.
Maybe your kid is not in competition with anyone but you sure seem to be.

It sounds like Avra is exactly the kind of person you want fighting for DCPS, not against.

Central office being laid-off, threat of Trump’s involvement in DCPS loom, and elite support, which was already low, only falls.

Good job DCPS, and good luck.

DP but this makes no sense. There's nothing about these parents that say they give a single fig about DCPS as a whole. The only defining characteristics they have demonstrated in their interviews are self interest and entitlement.

This. They're fighting their UNW school to give their own kid an advantage and even wrote the proposed rules to slam the door behind them in two years. They don't care about DCPS or kids EotP. They care singularly about their children and only their children. And frankly given she's running around telling every news outlet her almost six year old doesn't know the alphabet, stuff that will live on the Internet for a good long time, I'm questioning how much the kid's best interest is really at play here.

She gives communications strategists a bad name. I cannot, under any circumstances, imagine disparaging my child, their intelligence and my faith in their abilities to multiple news outlets, with an interestingly increasing level of hysteria. I genuinely feel bad for that kid and the brother (who also gets drug through the mud as being a redshirt who was still not prepared for school despite being held back) … it’s shocking she can’t see that these interviews will only serve to haunt them as they get older.

You don’t think she’d call her journalist friends if Trump tries to take over?

It doesn’t matter. You can call yours.

This woman said not one iota about the $1b Trump and Republicans are preventing DC from using at the expense of our schools.

So even if this woman were, as PP said, Olivia Pope she's done not a single thing to help a child not her own in this city. She is instead playing right into the hands of those who hate our city the most. So no she's not someone you want on your side to help engage DCPS any more than Amy Coney Barrett is someone you want on your side for women's rights simply because she's a woman.

Well you keep that burning resentment alive until all wealthy people leave DCPS then.

So... rich people should get to have one set of rules, and then everyone below a certain income threshold plays by another? I cannot fathom why you think that's good policy.

Umm… it’s the current policy: private vs public. What you want is rich people on your team, and if you want that, you have to stop telling them to leave and go private.

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine if these parents devoted as much energy to getting their kids IEPs or tutoring instead of trying to get them enrolled in kindergarten. If their kids are really so much slower at learning than other kids in the neighborhood, what magic do they think is going to happen in kindergarten?

It's really obvious the kids have no special needs and the parents know it. They don't want to get their kid an IEP or a tutor, they want their son to effortlessly excel and be told by every teacher that he's the very smartest, the tallest, the cleverest, the most impressive kid in the grade. If it's not looking like something that's going to happen organically they'll just put them in a class with younger kids so they "stand out" the way mom and dad wanted/expected them to.

It's funny because I'm from Texas where redshirting parents are *extremely* upfront about this - they want their sons to have the height/weight/testosterone/muscle advantage when they get to high school so they can start on their sports teams and maybe even get a scholarship. In DC people want the same thing - an unearned advantage for their son - but twist themselves into pretzels to pretend that they aren't trying to rig the system. In fact, they pretend the system is the unfair thing! How could they say that kids with a certain birthday should enroll by a certain date and then . . . have the nerve to enforce it??! Rules that apply to other kids also apply to my kid? How is that fair? Not for my dear Henry!

Texas is NOT DC. Name one wealthy parent who cares about football. Most won’t even let their children play football

Yes. This is the point. Both wealthy DC and Texas parents want their kids to redshirt for advantages, just different advantages. It's just the Texas parents are upfront about it.

If for whatever reason you think my kid is in competition with your kid, that’s very funny to me. They’re not in competition.

OK, Avra.
Tell it to your reporter friends.
Maybe your kid is not in competition with anyone but you sure seem to be.

It sounds like Avra is exactly the kind of person you want fighting for DCPS, not against.

Central office being laid-off, threat of Trump’s involvement in DCPS loom, and elite support, which was already low, only falls.

Good job DCPS, and good luck.

DP but this makes no sense. There's nothing about these parents that say they give a single fig about DCPS as a whole. The only defining characteristics they have demonstrated in their interviews are self interest and entitlement.

This. They're fighting their UNW school to give their own kid an advantage and even wrote the proposed rules to slam the door behind them in two years. They don't care about DCPS or kids EotP. They care singularly about their children and only their children. And frankly given she's running around telling every news outlet her almost six year old doesn't know the alphabet, stuff that will live on the Internet for a good long time, I'm questioning how much the kid's best interest is really at play here.

She gives communications strategists a bad name. I cannot, under any circumstances, imagine disparaging my child, their intelligence and my faith in their abilities to multiple news outlets, with an interestingly increasing level of hysteria. I genuinely feel bad for that kid and the brother (who also gets drug through the mud as being a redshirt who was still not prepared for school despite being held back) … it’s shocking she can’t see that these interviews will only serve to haunt them as they get older.

You don’t think she’d call her journalist friends if Trump tries to take over?

It doesn’t matter. You can call yours.

This woman said not one iota about the $1b Trump and Republicans are preventing DC from using at the expense of our schools.

So even if this woman were, as PP said, Olivia Pope she's done not a single thing to help a child not her own in this city. She is instead playing right into the hands of those who hate our city the most. So no she's not someone you want on your side to help engage DCPS any more than Amy Coney Barrett is someone you want on your side for women's rights simply because she's a woman.

Well you keep that burning resentment alive until all wealthy people leave DCPS then.

So... rich people should get to have one set of rules, and then everyone below a certain income threshold plays by another? I cannot fathom why you think that's good policy.

Umm… it’s the current policy: private vs public. What you want is rich people on your team, and if you want that, you have to stop telling them to leave and go private.

Or we could eat them?

But in all honestly no you don't want every rich person on your team purely because they're rich. That's not a team that's indentured servitude. The idea that those without millions of dollars should be grateful that those with money dare to send their children to public school is silly and it's counterproductive. In the same way that pretending Liz Cheney is a good ally simply because she hates Trump. No one is telling this person to go private simply for being wealthy, they're telling her because she's trying to dictate an entire school system for herself. And maybe she'll have better luck in a private school, though apparently her private daycare didn't exactly prepare her kids for public school curriculum.

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine if these parents devoted as much energy to getting their kids IEPs or tutoring instead of trying to get them enrolled in kindergarten. If their kids are really so much slower at learning than other kids in the neighborhood, what magic do they think is going to happen in kindergarten?

It's really obvious the kids have no special needs and the parents know it. They don't want to get their kid an IEP or a tutor, they want their son to effortlessly excel and be told by every teacher that he's the very smartest, the tallest, the cleverest, the most impressive kid in the grade. If it's not looking like something that's going to happen organically they'll just put them in a class with younger kids so they "stand out" the way mom and dad wanted/expected them to.

It's funny because I'm from Texas where redshirting parents are *extremely* upfront about this - they want their sons to have the height/weight/testosterone/muscle advantage when they get to high school so they can start on their sports teams and maybe even get a scholarship. In DC people want the same thing - an unearned advantage for their son - but twist themselves into pretzels to pretend that they aren't trying to rig the system. In fact, they pretend the system is the unfair thing! How could they say that kids with a certain birthday should enroll by a certain date and then . . . have the nerve to enforce it??! Rules that apply to other kids also apply to my kid? How is that fair? Not for my dear Henry!

Texas is NOT DC. Name one wealthy parent who cares about football. Most won’t even let their children play football

Yes. This is the point. Both wealthy DC and Texas parents want their kids to redshirt for advantages, just different advantages. It's just the Texas parents are upfront about it.

If for whatever reason you think my kid is in competition with your kid, that’s very funny to me. They’re not in competition.

OK, Avra.
Tell it to your reporter friends.
Maybe your kid is not in competition with anyone but you sure seem to be.

It sounds like Avra is exactly the kind of person you want fighting for DCPS, not against.

Central office being laid-off, threat of Trump’s involvement in DCPS loom, and elite support, which was already low, only falls.

Good job DCPS, and good luck.

DP but this makes no sense. There's nothing about these parents that say they give a single fig about DCPS as a whole. The only defining characteristics they have demonstrated in their interviews are self interest and entitlement.

This. They're fighting their UNW school to give their own kid an advantage and even wrote the proposed rules to slam the door behind them in two years. They don't care about DCPS or kids EotP. They care singularly about their children and only their children. And frankly given she's running around telling every news outlet her almost six year old doesn't know the alphabet, stuff that will live on the Internet for a good long time, I'm questioning how much the kid's best interest is really at play here.

She gives communications strategists a bad name. I cannot, under any circumstances, imagine disparaging my child, their intelligence and my faith in their abilities to multiple news outlets, with an interestingly increasing level of hysteria. I genuinely feel bad for that kid and the brother (who also gets drug through the mud as being a redshirt who was still not prepared for school despite being held back) … it’s shocking she can’t see that these interviews will only serve to haunt them as they get older.

You don’t think she’d call her journalist friends if Trump tries to take over?

It doesn’t matter. You can call yours.

This woman said not one iota about the $1b Trump and Republicans are preventing DC from using at the expense of our schools.

So even if this woman were, as PP said, Olivia Pope she's done not a single thing to help a child not her own in this city. She is instead playing right into the hands of those who hate our city the most. So no she's not someone you want on your side to help engage DCPS any more than Amy Coney Barrett is someone you want on your side for women's rights simply because she's a woman.

Well you keep that burning resentment alive until all wealthy people leave DCPS then.

So... rich people should get to have one set of rules, and then everyone below a certain income threshold plays by another? I cannot fathom why you think that's good policy.

Umm… it’s the current policy: private vs public. What you want is rich people on your team, and if you want that, you have to stop telling them to leave and go private.

It's so unfair how rich people get to flunk their kids. I guess only the offspring of the powerful get to spend an entire year being bored out of their skulls by lessons they should have learned a long time ago, surrounded by kids who are substantially more immature than them.

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine if these parents devoted as much energy to getting their kids IEPs or tutoring instead of trying to get them enrolled in kindergarten. If their kids are really so much slower at learning than other kids in the neighborhood, what magic do they think is going to happen in kindergarten?

It's really obvious the kids have no special needs and the parents know it. They don't want to get their kid an IEP or a tutor, they want their son to effortlessly excel and be told by every teacher that he's the very smartest, the tallest, the cleverest, the most impressive kid in the grade. If it's not looking like something that's going to happen organically they'll just put them in a class with younger kids so they "stand out" the way mom and dad wanted/expected them to.

It's funny because I'm from Texas where redshirting parents are *extremely* upfront about this - they want their sons to have the height/weight/testosterone/muscle advantage when they get to high school so they can start on their sports teams and maybe even get a scholarship. In DC people want the same thing - an unearned advantage for their son - but twist themselves into pretzels to pretend that they aren't trying to rig the system. In fact, they pretend the system is the unfair thing! How could they say that kids with a certain birthday should enroll by a certain date and then . . . have the nerve to enforce it??! Rules that apply to other kids also apply to my kid? How is that fair? Not for my dear Henry!

Texas is NOT DC. Name one wealthy parent who cares about football. Most won’t even let their children play football

Yes. This is the point. Both wealthy DC and Texas parents want their kids to redshirt for advantages, just different advantages. It's just the Texas parents are upfront about it.

If for whatever reason you think my kid is in competition with your kid, that’s very funny to me. They’re not in competition.

OK, Avra.
Tell it to your reporter friends.
Maybe your kid is not in competition with anyone but you sure seem to be.

It sounds like Avra is exactly the kind of person you want fighting for DCPS, not against.

Central office being laid-off, threat of Trump’s involvement in DCPS loom, and elite support, which was already low, only falls.

Good job DCPS, and good luck.

DP but this makes no sense. There's nothing about these parents that say they give a single fig about DCPS as a whole. The only defining characteristics they have demonstrated in their interviews are self interest and entitlement.

This. They're fighting their UNW school to give their own kid an advantage and even wrote the proposed rules to slam the door behind them in two years. They don't care about DCPS or kids EotP. They care singularly about their children and only their children. And frankly given she's running around telling every news outlet her almost six year old doesn't know the alphabet, stuff that will live on the Internet for a good long time, I'm questioning how much the kid's best interest is really at play here.

She gives communications strategists a bad name. I cannot, under any circumstances, imagine disparaging my child, their intelligence and my faith in their abilities to multiple news outlets, with an interestingly increasing level of hysteria. I genuinely feel bad for that kid and the brother (who also gets drug through the mud as being a redshirt who was still not prepared for school despite being held back) … it’s shocking she can’t see that these interviews will only serve to haunt them as they get older.

You don’t think she’d call her journalist friends if Trump tries to take over?

It doesn’t matter. You can call yours.

This woman said not one iota about the $1b Trump and Republicans are preventing DC from using at the expense of our schools.

So even if this woman were, as PP said, Olivia Pope she's done not a single thing to help a child not her own in this city. She is instead playing right into the hands of those who hate our city the most. So no she's not someone you want on your side to help engage DCPS any more than Amy Coney Barrett is someone you want on your side for women's rights simply because she's a woman.

Well you keep that burning resentment alive until all wealthy people leave DCPS then.

So... rich people should get to have one set of rules, and then everyone below a certain income threshold plays by another? I cannot fathom why you think that's good policy.

Umm… it’s the current policy: private vs public. What you want is rich people on your team, and if you want that, you have to stop telling them to leave and go private.

Or we could eat them?

But in all honestly no you don't want every rich person on your team purely because they're rich. That's not a team that's indentured servitude. The idea that those without millions of dollars should be grateful that those with money dare to send their children to public school is silly and it's counterproductive. In the same way that pretending Liz Cheney is a good ally simply because she hates Trump. No one is telling this person to go private simply for being wealthy, they're telling her because she's trying to dictate an entire school system for herself. And maybe she'll have better luck in a private school, though apparently her private daycare didn't exactly prepare her kids for public school curriculum.

Don’t be dense. No you don’t want all the rich people, but you do need enough. Pick the battles that move the needle, not the one that impacts not a child in your classroom… unless you’re saying that non-rich families also want to redshirt.

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine if these parents devoted as much energy to getting their kids IEPs or tutoring instead of trying to get them enrolled in kindergarten. If their kids are really so much slower at learning than other kids in the neighborhood, what magic do they think is going to happen in kindergarten?

It's really obvious the kids have no special needs and the parents know it. They don't want to get their kid an IEP or a tutor, they want their son to effortlessly excel and be told by every teacher that he's the very smartest, the tallest, the cleverest, the most impressive kid in the grade. If it's not looking like something that's going to happen organically they'll just put them in a class with younger kids so they "stand out" the way mom and dad wanted/expected them to.

It's funny because I'm from Texas where redshirting parents are *extremely* upfront about this - they want their sons to have the height/weight/testosterone/muscle advantage when they get to high school so they can start on their sports teams and maybe even get a scholarship. In DC people want the same thing - an unearned advantage for their son - but twist themselves into pretzels to pretend that they aren't trying to rig the system. In fact, they pretend the system is the unfair thing! How could they say that kids with a certain birthday should enroll by a certain date and then . . . have the nerve to enforce it??! Rules that apply to other kids also apply to my kid? How is that fair? Not for my dear Henry!

Texas is NOT DC. Name one wealthy parent who cares about football. Most won’t even let their children play football

Yes. This is the point. Both wealthy DC and Texas parents want their kids to redshirt for advantages, just different advantages. It's just the Texas parents are upfront about it.

If for whatever reason you think my kid is in competition with your kid, that’s very funny to me. They’re not in competition.

OK, Avra.
Tell it to your reporter friends.
Maybe your kid is not in competition with anyone but you sure seem to be.

It sounds like Avra is exactly the kind of person you want fighting for DCPS, not against.

Central office being laid-off, threat of Trump’s involvement in DCPS loom, and elite support, which was already low, only falls.

Good job DCPS, and good luck.

DP but this makes no sense. There's nothing about these parents that say they give a single fig about DCPS as a whole. The only defining characteristics they have demonstrated in their interviews are self interest and entitlement.

This. They're fighting their UNW school to give their own kid an advantage and even wrote the proposed rules to slam the door behind them in two years. They don't care about DCPS or kids EotP. They care singularly about their children and only their children. And frankly given she's running around telling every news outlet her almost six year old doesn't know the alphabet, stuff that will live on the Internet for a good long time, I'm questioning how much the kid's best interest is really at play here.

She gives communications strategists a bad name. I cannot, under any circumstances, imagine disparaging my child, their intelligence and my faith in their abilities to multiple news outlets, with an interestingly increasing level of hysteria. I genuinely feel bad for that kid and the brother (who also gets drug through the mud as being a redshirt who was still not prepared for school despite being held back) … it’s shocking she can’t see that these interviews will only serve to haunt them as they get older.

You don’t think she’d call her journalist friends if Trump tries to take over?

It doesn’t matter. You can call yours.

This woman said not one iota about the $1b Trump and Republicans are preventing DC from using at the expense of our schools.

So even if this woman were, as PP said, Olivia Pope she's done not a single thing to help a child not her own in this city. She is instead playing right into the hands of those who hate our city the most. So no she's not someone you want on your side to help engage DCPS any more than Amy Coney Barrett is someone you want on your side for women's rights simply because she's a woman.

Well you keep that burning resentment alive until all wealthy people leave DCPS then.

So... rich people should get to have one set of rules, and then everyone below a certain income threshold plays by another? I cannot fathom why you think that's good policy.

Umm… it’s the current policy: private vs public. What you want is rich people on your team, and if you want that, you have to stop telling them to leave and go private.

It's so unfair how rich people get to flunk their kids. I guess only the offspring of the powerful get to spend an entire year being bored out of their skulls by lessons they should have learned a long time ago, surrounded by kids who are substantially more immature than them.

Did you really step into the Cathedral grounds and think life is fair?

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine if these parents devoted as much energy to getting their kids IEPs or tutoring instead of trying to get them enrolled in kindergarten. If their kids are really so much slower at learning than other kids in the neighborhood, what magic do they think is going to happen in kindergarten?

It's really obvious the kids have no special needs and the parents know it. They don't want to get their kid an IEP or a tutor, they want their son to effortlessly excel and be told by every teacher that he's the very smartest, the tallest, the cleverest, the most impressive kid in the grade. If it's not looking like something that's going to happen organically they'll just put them in a class with younger kids so they "stand out" the way mom and dad wanted/expected them to.

It's funny because I'm from Texas where redshirting parents are *extremely* upfront about this - they want their sons to have the height/weight/testosterone/muscle advantage when they get to high school so they can start on their sports teams and maybe even get a scholarship. In DC people want the same thing - an unearned advantage for their son - but twist themselves into pretzels to pretend that they aren't trying to rig the system. In fact, they pretend the system is the unfair thing! How could they say that kids with a certain birthday should enroll by a certain date and then . . . have the nerve to enforce it??! Rules that apply to other kids also apply to my kid? How is that fair? Not for my dear Henry!

Texas is NOT DC. Name one wealthy parent who cares about football. Most won’t even let their children play football

Yes. This is the point. Both wealthy DC and Texas parents want their kids to redshirt for advantages, just different advantages. It's just the Texas parents are upfront about it.

If for whatever reason you think my kid is in competition with your kid, that’s very funny to me. They’re not in competition.

OK, Avra.
Tell it to your reporter friends.
Maybe your kid is not in competition with anyone but you sure seem to be.

It sounds like Avra is exactly the kind of person you want fighting for DCPS, not against.

Central office being laid-off, threat of Trump’s involvement in DCPS loom, and elite support, which was already low, only falls.

Good job DCPS, and good luck.

DP but this makes no sense. There's nothing about these parents that say they give a single fig about DCPS as a whole. The only defining characteristics they have demonstrated in their interviews are self interest and entitlement.

This. They're fighting their UNW school to give their own kid an advantage and even wrote the proposed rules to slam the door behind them in two years. They don't care about DCPS or kids EotP. They care singularly about their children and only their children. And frankly given she's running around telling every news outlet her almost six year old doesn't know the alphabet, stuff that will live on the Internet for a good long time, I'm questioning how much the kid's best interest is really at play here.

She gives communications strategists a bad name. I cannot, under any circumstances, imagine disparaging my child, their intelligence and my faith in their abilities to multiple news outlets, with an interestingly increasing level of hysteria. I genuinely feel bad for that kid and the brother (who also gets drug through the mud as being a redshirt who was still not prepared for school despite being held back) … it’s shocking she can’t see that these interviews will only serve to haunt them as they get older.

You don’t think she’d call her journalist friends if Trump tries to take over?

It doesn’t matter. You can call yours.

This woman said not one iota about the $1b Trump and Republicans are preventing DC from using at the expense of our schools.

So even if this woman were, as PP said, Olivia Pope she's done not a single thing to help a child not her own in this city. She is instead playing right into the hands of those who hate our city the most. So no she's not someone you want on your side to help engage DCPS any more than Amy Coney Barrett is someone you want on your side for women's rights simply because she's a woman.

Well you keep that burning resentment alive until all wealthy people leave DCPS then.

So... rich people should get to have one set of rules, and then everyone below a certain income threshold plays by another? I cannot fathom why you think that's good policy.

Umm… it’s the current policy: private vs public. What you want is rich people on your team, and if you want that, you have to stop telling them to leave and go private.

Or we could eat them?

But in all honestly no you don't want every rich person on your team purely because they're rich. That's not a team that's indentured servitude. The idea that those without millions of dollars should be grateful that those with money dare to send their children to public school is silly and it's counterproductive. In the same way that pretending Liz Cheney is a good ally simply because she hates Trump. No one is telling this person to go private simply for being wealthy, they're telling her because she's trying to dictate an entire school system for herself. And maybe she'll have better luck in a private school, though apparently her private daycare didn't exactly prepare her kids for public school curriculum.

Don’t be dense. No you don’t want all the rich people, but you do need enough. Pick the battles that move the needle, not the one that impacts not a child in your classroom… unless you’re saying that non-rich families also want to redshirt.

This woman has gone to every newspaper to disparage the school and DCPS on more than one subject. I think this is pretty squarely a case of this particular person is causing more harm than good to everyone. And that battle seems worth it because ultimately there is nothing that will satisfy her that is not exactly her way. And no that's not worth it.

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine if these parents devoted as much energy to getting their kids IEPs or tutoring instead of trying to get them enrolled in kindergarten. If their kids are really so much slower at learning than other kids in the neighborhood, what magic do they think is going to happen in kindergarten?

It's really obvious the kids have no special needs and the parents know it. They don't want to get their kid an IEP or a tutor, they want their son to effortlessly excel and be told by every teacher that he's the very smartest, the tallest, the cleverest, the most impressive kid in the grade. If it's not looking like something that's going to happen organically they'll just put them in a class with younger kids so they "stand out" the way mom and dad wanted/expected them to.

It's funny because I'm from Texas where redshirting parents are *extremely* upfront about this - they want their sons to have the height/weight/testosterone/muscle advantage when they get to high school so they can start on their sports teams and maybe even get a scholarship. In DC people want the same thing - an unearned advantage for their son - but twist themselves into pretzels to pretend that they aren't trying to rig the system. In fact, they pretend the system is the unfair thing! How could they say that kids with a certain birthday should enroll by a certain date and then . . . have the nerve to enforce it??! Rules that apply to other kids also apply to my kid? How is that fair? Not for my dear Henry!

Texas is NOT DC. Name one wealthy parent who cares about football. Most won’t even let their children play football

Yes. This is the point. Both wealthy DC and Texas parents want their kids to redshirt for advantages, just different advantages. It's just the Texas parents are upfront about it.

If for whatever reason you think my kid is in competition with your kid, that’s very funny to me. They’re not in competition.

OK, Avra.
Tell it to your reporter friends.
Maybe your kid is not in competition with anyone but you sure seem to be.

It sounds like Avra is exactly the kind of person you want fighting for DCPS, not against.

Central office being laid-off, threat of Trump’s involvement in DCPS loom, and elite support, which was already low, only falls.

Good job DCPS, and good luck.

DP but this makes no sense. There's nothing about these parents that say they give a single fig about DCPS as a whole. The only defining characteristics they have demonstrated in their interviews are self interest and entitlement.

This. They're fighting their UNW school to give their own kid an advantage and even wrote the proposed rules to slam the door behind them in two years. They don't care about DCPS or kids EotP. They care singularly about their children and only their children. And frankly given she's running around telling every news outlet her almost six year old doesn't know the alphabet, stuff that will live on the Internet for a good long time, I'm questioning how much the kid's best interest is really at play here.

She gives communications strategists a bad name. I cannot, under any circumstances, imagine disparaging my child, their intelligence and my faith in their abilities to multiple news outlets, with an interestingly increasing level of hysteria. I genuinely feel bad for that kid and the brother (who also gets drug through the mud as being a redshirt who was still not prepared for school despite being held back) … it’s shocking she can’t see that these interviews will only serve to haunt them as they get older.

You don’t think she’d call her journalist friends if Trump tries to take over?

It doesn’t matter. You can call yours.

This woman said not one iota about the $1b Trump and Republicans are preventing DC from using at the expense of our schools.

So even if this woman were, as PP said, Olivia Pope she's done not a single thing to help a child not her own in this city. She is instead playing right into the hands of those who hate our city the most. So no she's not someone you want on your side to help engage DCPS any more than Amy Coney Barrett is someone you want on your side for women's rights simply because she's a woman.

Well you keep that burning resentment alive until all wealthy people leave DCPS then.

So... rich people should get to have one set of rules, and then everyone below a certain income threshold plays by another? I cannot fathom why you think that's good policy.

Umm… it’s the current policy: private vs public. What you want is rich people on your team, and if you want that, you have to stop telling them to leave and go private.

Or we could eat them?

But in all honestly no you don't want every rich person on your team purely because they're rich. That's not a team that's indentured servitude. The idea that those without millions of dollars should be grateful that those with money dare to send their children to public school is silly and it's counterproductive. In the same way that pretending Liz Cheney is a good ally simply because she hates Trump. No one is telling this person to go private simply for being wealthy, they're telling her because she's trying to dictate an entire school system for herself. And maybe she'll have better luck in a private school, though apparently her private daycare didn't exactly prepare her kids for public school curriculum.

Don’t be dense. No you don’t want all the rich people, but you do need enough. Pick the battles that move the needle, not the one that impacts not a child in your classroom… unless you’re saying that non-rich families also want to redshirt.

This woman has gone to every newspaper to disparage the school and DCPS on more than one subject. I think this is pretty squarely a case of this particular person is causing more harm than good to everyone. And that battle seems worth it because ultimately there is nothing that will satisfy her that is not exactly her way. And no that's not worth it.

Agreed.

Also this lady would also annoy the crap out of whatever private her kids attended. Everyone knows parents like this, who think they know everything and should be in charge of everything and just harass everyone -- administrators, teachers, other parents, their own kids -- until they get their way. And usually their way doesn't even make sense and isn't even in their own kids best interest. It's just about them flexing their muscle and forcing people to bend to their will.

It honestly has very little to do with redshirting, that's just the cause du jour for this nut job. Before this it was the playground, after this it will be something else, at whatever school her kids are at. Some people are just like this.

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine if these parents devoted as much energy to getting their kids IEPs or tutoring instead of trying to get them enrolled in kindergarten. If their kids are really so much slower at learning than other kids in the neighborhood, what magic do they think is going to happen in kindergarten?

It's really obvious the kids have no special needs and the parents know it. They don't want to get their kid an IEP or a tutor, they want their son to effortlessly excel and be told by every teacher that he's the very smartest, the tallest, the cleverest, the most impressive kid in the grade. If it's not looking like something that's going to happen organically they'll just put them in a class with younger kids so they "stand out" the way mom and dad wanted/expected them to.

It's funny because I'm from Texas where redshirting parents are *extremely* upfront about this - they want their sons to have the height/weight/testosterone/muscle advantage when they get to high school so they can start on their sports teams and maybe even get a scholarship. In DC people want the same thing - an unearned advantage for their son - but twist themselves into pretzels to pretend that they aren't trying to rig the system. In fact, they pretend the system is the unfair thing! How could they say that kids with a certain birthday should enroll by a certain date and then . . . have the nerve to enforce it??! Rules that apply to other kids also apply to my kid? How is that fair? Not for my dear Henry!

Texas is NOT DC. Name one wealthy parent who cares about football. Most won’t even let their children play football

Yes. This is the point. Both wealthy DC and Texas parents want their kids to redshirt for advantages, just different advantages. It's just the Texas parents are upfront about it.

If for whatever reason you think my kid is in competition with your kid, that’s very funny to me. They’re not in competition.

OK, Avra.
Tell it to your reporter friends.
Maybe your kid is not in competition with anyone but you sure seem to be.

It sounds like Avra is exactly the kind of person you want fighting for DCPS, not against.

Central office being laid-off, threat of Trump’s involvement in DCPS loom, and elite support, which was already low, only falls.

Good job DCPS, and good luck.

DP but this makes no sense. There's nothing about these parents that say they give a single fig about DCPS as a whole. The only defining characteristics they have demonstrated in their interviews are self interest and entitlement.

This. They're fighting their UNW school to give their own kid an advantage and even wrote the proposed rules to slam the door behind them in two years. They don't care about DCPS or kids EotP. They care singularly about their children and only their children. And frankly given she's running around telling every news outlet her almost six year old doesn't know the alphabet, stuff that will live on the Internet for a good long time, I'm questioning how much the kid's best interest is really at play here.

She gives communications strategists a bad name. I cannot, under any circumstances, imagine disparaging my child, their intelligence and my faith in their abilities to multiple news outlets, with an interestingly increasing level of hysteria. I genuinely feel bad for that kid and the brother (who also gets drug through the mud as being a redshirt who was still not prepared for school despite being held back) … it’s shocking she can’t see that these interviews will only serve to haunt them as they get older.

You don’t think she’d call her journalist friends if Trump tries to take over?

It doesn’t matter. You can call yours.

This woman said not one iota about the $1b Trump and Republicans are preventing DC from using at the expense of our schools.

So even if this woman were, as PP said, Olivia Pope she's done not a single thing to help a child not her own in this city. She is instead playing right into the hands of those who hate our city the most. So no she's not someone you want on your side to help engage DCPS any more than Amy Coney Barrett is someone you want on your side for women's rights simply because she's a woman.

Well you keep that burning resentment alive until all wealthy people leave DCPS then.

So... rich people should get to have one set of rules, and then everyone below a certain income threshold plays by another? I cannot fathom why you think that's good policy.

Umm… it’s the current policy: private vs public. What you want is rich people on your team, and if you want that, you have to stop telling them to leave and go private.

Or we could eat them?

But in all honestly no you don't want every rich person on your team purely because they're rich. That's not a team that's indentured servitude. The idea that those without millions of dollars should be grateful that those with money dare to send their children to public school is silly and it's counterproductive. In the same way that pretending Liz Cheney is a good ally simply because she hates Trump. No one is telling this person to go private simply for being wealthy, they're telling her because she's trying to dictate an entire school system for herself. And maybe she'll have better luck in a private school, though apparently her private daycare didn't exactly prepare her kids for public school curriculum.

Don’t be dense. No you don’t want all the rich people, but you do need enough. Pick the battles that move the needle, not the one that impacts not a child in your classroom… unless you’re saying that non-rich families also want to redshirt.

This woman has gone to every newspaper to disparage the school and DCPS on more than one subject. I think this is pretty squarely a case of this particular person is causing more harm than good to everyone. And that battle seems worth it because ultimately there is nothing that will satisfy her that is not exactly her way. And no that's not worth it.

Agreed.

Also this lady would also annoy the crap out of whatever private her kids attended. Everyone knows parents like this, who think they know everything and should be in charge of everything and just harass everyone -- administrators, teachers, other parents, their own kids -- until they get their way. And usually their way doesn't even make sense and isn't even in their own kids best interest. It's just about them flexing their muscle and forcing people to bend to their will.

It honestly has very little to do with redshirting, that's just the cause du jour for this nut job. Before this it was the playground, after this it will be something else, at whatever school her kids are at. Some people are just like this.

Fine, but the impact has been any kid that CPS has been threatened on, and there have been some who are not hers, have quickly and quietly switched to private.

Just like the many kids who wanted more challenging academics, and other policies that have over time led so many wealthy who started in public to private.