Is $TSLA a buy here?

Anonymous
It's not a meme stock. It has real technology and fabrication expertise. And really manufactures something. It is nothing like GameStop. What did GameStop ever make? Nothing.

The car has improved over time. The infrastructure for the car is improving. It is the only EV out there that turns a profit. All of the others are still losing money on production. Tesla could start selling its cars at a loss and undercut the other EVs by a LOT and still stay in business for a long time. I would not discount it by any means. It's still rated a buy by the majority of analysts.


There's a reason that Musk is the one representing all the other oligarchs. He can afford to lose a lot and still be okay.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
It's not a meme stock. It has real technology and fabrication expertise. And really manufactures something. It is nothing like GameStop. What did GameStop ever make? Nothing.

The car has improved over time. The infrastructure for the car is improving. It is the only EV out there that turns a profit. All of the others are still losing money on production. Tesla could start selling its cars at a loss and undercut the other EVs by a LOT and still stay in business for a long time. I would not discount it by any means. It's still rated a buy by the majority of analysts.


It’s a meme because its valuation is untethered from the technology and product sales.

GameStop is a thriving used game marketplace, also a business. Also a meme because that’s a very small business.

TSLA should be valued between Subura and Toyota.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
It's not a meme stock. It has real technology and fabrication expertise. And really manufactures something. It is nothing like GameStop. What did GameStop ever make? Nothing.

The car has improved over time. The infrastructure for the car is improving. It is the only EV out there that turns a profit. All of the others are still losing money on production. Tesla could start selling its cars at a loss and undercut the other EVs by a LOT and still stay in business for a long time. I would not discount it by any means. It's still rated a buy by the majority of analysts.


Earnings per share is $2. At that rate it is going to take 100 years to get anywhere close to the cost of your investment. And sales and profits are falling rapidly.

I can guarantee you that its robocabs will not materialize. Their tech doesn’t work without adding lidar.

And their robots are simply ridiculous. There is no technology and no product.

The company is worth 10 percent of its current valuation.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
It's not a meme stock. It has real technology and fabrication expertise. And really manufactures something. It is nothing like GameStop. What did GameStop ever make? Nothing.

The car has improved over time. The infrastructure for the car is improving. It is the only EV out there that turns a profit. All of the others are still losing money on production. Tesla could start selling its cars at a loss and undercut the other EVs by a LOT and still stay in business for a long time. I would not discount it by any means. It's still rated a buy by the majority of analysts.


Earnings per share is $2. At that rate it is going to take 100 years to get anywhere close to the cost of your investment. And sales and profits are falling rapidly.

I can guarantee you that its robocabs will not materialize. Their tech doesn’t work without adding lidar.

And their robots are simply ridiculous. There is no technology and no product.

The company is worth 10 percent of its current valuation.


I don’t know, their robots looked pretty impressive at one of their recent earnings calls.
Anonymous
F#$@ Tesla. They are going to b lucky if every single showroom doesn't burn to ground by the end of this.

Once poor people have nothing to lose...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
It's not a meme stock. It has real technology and fabrication expertise. And really manufactures something. It is nothing like GameStop. What did GameStop ever make? Nothing.

The car has improved over time. The infrastructure for the car is improving. It is the only EV out there that turns a profit. All of the others are still losing money on production. Tesla could start selling its cars at a loss and undercut the other EVs by a LOT and still stay in business for a long time. I would not discount it by any means. It's still rated a buy by the majority of analysts.


Earnings per share is $2. At that rate it is going to take 100 years to get anywhere close to the cost of your investment. And sales and profits are falling rapidly.

I can guarantee you that its robocabs will not materialize. Their tech doesn’t work without adding lidar.

And their robots are simply ridiculous. There is no technology and no product.

The company is worth 10 percent of its current valuation.


I don’t know, their robots looked pretty impressive at one of their recent earnings calls.


Yes! Waymo is in trouble! Tesla once they start their service will dominate. 200,000 paid rides by Waymo is nothing to worry about.
Anonymous
But no one will choose a Tesla robotaxi now. They are toast.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:But no one will choose a Tesla robotaxi now. They are toast.


No one will choose one because their technology literally does not work. They tried to do it without lidar and it can’t operate. I would give odds of a thousand to one that they will not be on the roads in June.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
It's not a meme stock. It has real technology and fabrication expertise. And really manufactures something. It is nothing like GameStop. What did GameStop ever make? Nothing.

The car has improved over time. The infrastructure for the car is improving. It is the only EV out there that turns a profit. All of the others are still losing money on production. Tesla could start selling its cars at a loss and undercut the other EVs by a LOT and still stay in business for a long time. I would not discount it by any means. It's still rated a buy by the majority of analysts.


Earnings per share is $2. At that rate it is going to take 100 years to get anywhere close to the cost of your investment. And sales and profits are falling rapidly.

I can guarantee you that its robocabs will not materialize. Their tech doesn’t work without adding lidar.

And their robots are simply ridiculous. There is no technology and no product.

The company is worth 10 percent of its current valuation.


I don’t know, their robots looked pretty impressive at one of their recent earnings calls.


Yes! Waymo is in trouble! Tesla once they start their service will dominate. 200,000 paid rides by Waymo is nothing to worry about.


Their robots are pre programmed to a narrow set of tasks for those demos.

FSD is always 5 years away…
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:But no one will choose a Tesla robotaxi now. They are toast.


No one will choose one because their technology literally does not work. They tried to do it without lidar and it can’t operate. I would give odds of a thousand to one that they will not be on the roads in June.


The funniest part to me about the robotaxi idea is that even if the cars fundamentally work and people are comfortable taking them, who is going to own the cars? We are talking hundreds of thousands of cars across just the US alone. That's a massive capital investment- and the reason folks like Uber/Lyft have any value is that they don't have to make the capital investments, they get their cut of ride revenue and that's it. It's a completely different business owning and managing fleets, the capital costs, repairs, etc. All of that right now flows downhill to the drivers to manage individually. Does Uber really want to be in the business of having billions of dollars of cars on their balance sheet? I wouldn't want that if I were one of their investors.
Anonymous
Saw a video on reddit that Cybertruck's front mental panel is glued. Yet, Consumer Reports gives Models 3,S, Y, X ok reviews for reliability. The PE ratio is high. It is an odd company. Toxic, so it comes with a risk/reward. As an auto it is probably toast. As AI or something else, probably it has some upside if the market buys the hype. If it gets folded into the X-everything meme, it may pop. Musk himself was tweeting about 1000% upside. Especially if his companies take all of the government contracts and government is forced to buy thousands of his cars.
Anonymous
There’s an account on Instagram and tiktok called @MolesRCool that compiles all the hilarious, terrible cybertruck videos. He talks a lot about big trucks in general (esp how most owners never haul or town anything in their “work truck.”). Great account for laughing at cybertruck owners boasting about doing “truck stuff” that a Subaru can do.

The reddit finance people say that if Tesla gets to $100, Elon is ruined since his stock is the leverage for his acquisitions. Goals!
Anonymous
There’s an account on Instagram and tiktok called @MolesRCool that compiles all the hilarious, terrible cybertruck videos. He talks a lot about big trucks in general (esp how most owners never haul or town anything in their “work truck.”). Great account for laughing at cybertruck owners boasting about doing “truck stuff” that a Subaru can do.

The reddit finance people say that if Tesla gets to $100, Elon is ruined since his stock is the leverage for his acquisitions. Goals!


Elon is hardly ruined. The Falcon 9 went up today with the four astronauts. The booster had a perfect recovery. Space X is the only company in the world that can recover a rocket booster. It makes those flights A LOT cheaper. You can see the booster coming back in at about the 7:30 mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9JDQl3AYH0

No matter what happens to Tesla, Space X is going to be here.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Please keep your TDS and your irrational hatred of Musk out of this. But the stock is down 48% from its all-time high!

Even if you acknowledge that Musk has alienated many consumers, he may just as well bring in many new customers (Republicans have bought EVs at much lower rates than Democrats in the past).

More importantly, over time, the best product tends to win. And with the possible exception of some of the Chinese EVs (which will never be sold in the US), Teslas are the best EVs in the world. While there have been some recent reports of lower sales figures, nothing about the product or business has fundamentally changed in the last few months to warrant a 48% decline in share price.

And lastly, Tesla is not even strictly an automobile company anymore. They have lots of innovation in AI and other areas. I dunno, as someone who usually just buys index funds, I’m pretty tempted to load up on $TSLA stock. Thoughts?


Sorry, I don't invest in companies owned by Nazis who are destroying the federal government and the metro DC economy.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
It's not a meme stock. It has real technology and fabrication expertise. And really manufactures something. It is nothing like GameStop. What did GameStop ever make? Nothing.

The car has improved over time. The infrastructure for the car is improving. It is the only EV out there that turns a profit. All of the others are still losing money on production. Tesla could start selling its cars at a loss and undercut the other EVs by a LOT and still stay in business for a long time. I would not discount it by any means. It's still rated a buy by the majority of analysts.


Earnings per share is $2. At that rate it is going to take 100 years to get anywhere close to the cost of your investment. And sales and profits are falling rapidly.

I can guarantee you that its robocabs will not materialize. Their tech doesn’t work without adding lidar.

And their robots are simply ridiculous. There is no technology and no product.

The company is worth 10 percent of its current valuation.


I don’t know, their robots looked pretty impressive at one of their recent earnings calls.


Is that the one where it was just people cosplaying robots?
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