Looks like ELC is gone

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Anonymous wrote:PTA meeting tonight and I plan to ask when/how they will get family feedback about the 2 ELA modeled for next year’s 5th grade (because my kid is in 4th). I expect a vague non-answer, but at least it will put a bug in other parent’s ears a out what is coming

How did it go at the PTA meeting? Did you Delegate share information about this from the MCCPTA curriculum committee and gifted Ed committee?

What is the MCCPTA curriculum committee and gifted committee doing on this? Sounds like you are looped in, can you share?

They are the ones that fought to get ELC in all schools, and usually are on in the loop on where things like this stand. Ask you PTA Delegate or President.

I know they used to be active on this in the past but I have heard zero from them on it this year, no one's even brought it up in the gifted committee Facebook group I don't think. Doesn't sound like anyone there cares anymore...

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Anonymous wrote:Bumping this thread. Please share what you are hearing from your school. Thank you!

Our school is doing a separate cohorted class. They said they will do one extra CKLA unit that the regular classes won't do, plus some extra projects and "literature circles.". Does anyone know what literature circles are?

They're basically small groups dedicated to a specific book! They read a book, usually have jobs and then come together as a group after some time to discuss their assigned reading and their jobs!

What kind of "jobs" do you mean? And are literature circles generally something that kids enjoy and parents find valuable to their learning/class experience? Are they a part of ELC that's being carried over?

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Anonymous wrote:Bumping this thread. Please share what you are hearing from your school. Thank you!

Our school is doing a separate cohorted class. They said they will do one extra CKLA unit that the regular classes won't do, plus some extra projects and "literature circles.". Does anyone know what literature circles are?

They're basically small groups dedicated to a specific book! They read a book, usually have jobs and then come together as a group after some time to discuss their assigned reading and their jobs!

It sounds like our school will be doing the same for 5th grade next year (4th grade currently has a cohort in ELC, which will be kept together). A big relief because apparently reading actual books is not part of the regular CKLA curriculum somehow? Unbelievable.

The incoming 4th grade will not be cohorted, and will receive enrichment…somehow. Sounds like an absolute cluster. I feel bad for the teachers who are absolutely being set up to fail; every parent is going to hate this as a huge step down from the current program and it’s a very vocal parent group.

Wait I thought CKLA had actual books? Whether separate physical books or online. Like Wind in the Willows and Don Quixote??

Nope. My kids in 4th has only been reading nonfiction from a workbook and the computer program. Seems more like science or social studies than reading.

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Anonymous wrote:Bumping this thread. Please share what you are hearing from your school. Thank you!

Our school is doing a separate cohorted class. They said they will do one extra CKLA unit that the regular classes won't do, plus some extra projects and "literature circles.". Does anyone know what literature circles are?

They're basically small groups dedicated to a specific book! They read a book, usually have jobs and then come together as a group after some time to discuss their assigned reading and their jobs!

It sounds like our school will be doing the same for 5th grade next year (4th grade currently has a cohort in ELC, which will be kept together). A big relief because apparently reading actual books is not part of the regular CKLA curriculum somehow? Unbelievable.

The incoming 4th grade will not be cohorted, and will receive enrichment…somehow. Sounds like an absolute cluster. I feel bad for the teachers who are absolutely being set up to fail; every parent is going to hate this as a huge step down from the current program and it’s a very vocal parent group.

Wait I thought CKLA had actual books? Whether separate physical books or online. Like Wind in the Willows and Don Quixote??

Nope. My kids in 4th has only been reading nonfiction from a workbook and the computer program. Seems more like science or social studies than reading.

Then your kid's teacher is not actually following the curriculum.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bumping this thread. Please share what you are hearing from your school. Thank you!

Our school is doing a separate cohorted class. They said they will do one extra CKLA unit that the regular classes won't do, plus some extra projects and "literature circles.". Does anyone know what literature circles are?

They're basically small groups dedicated to a specific book! They read a book, usually have jobs and then come together as a group after some time to discuss their assigned reading and their jobs!

It sounds like our school will be doing the same for 5th grade next year (4th grade currently has a cohort in ELC, which will be kept together). A big relief because apparently reading actual books is not part of the regular CKLA curriculum somehow? Unbelievable.

The incoming 4th grade will not be cohorted, and will receive enrichment…somehow. Sounds like an absolute cluster. I feel bad for the teachers who are absolutely being set up to fail; every parent is going to hate this as a huge step down from the current program and it’s a very vocal parent group.

Wait I thought CKLA had actual books? Whether separate physical books or online. Like Wind in the Willows and Don Quixote??

Nope. My kids in 4th has only been reading nonfiction from a workbook and the computer program. Seems more like science or social studies than reading.

Most of it is like that but they should have one fiction unit a year.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bumping this thread. Please share what you are hearing from your school. Thank you!

Our school is doing a separate cohorted class. They said they will do one extra CKLA unit that the regular classes won't do, plus some extra projects and "literature circles.". Does anyone know what literature circles are?

They're basically small groups dedicated to a specific book! They read a book, usually have jobs and then come together as a group after some time to discuss their assigned reading and their jobs!

It sounds like our school will be doing the same for 5th grade next year (4th grade currently has a cohort in ELC, which will be kept together). A big relief because apparently reading actual books is not part of the regular CKLA curriculum somehow? Unbelievable.

The incoming 4th grade will not be cohorted, and will receive enrichment…somehow. Sounds like an absolute cluster. I feel bad for the teachers who are absolutely being set up to fail; every parent is going to hate this as a huge step down from the current program and it’s a very vocal parent group.

Wait I thought CKLA had actual books? Whether separate physical books or online. Like Wind in the Willows and Don Quixote??

Nope. My kids in 4th has only been reading nonfiction from a workbook and the computer program. Seems more like science or social studies than reading.

Most of it is like that but they should have one fiction unit a year.

4th reads Treasure Island.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bumping this thread. Please share what you are hearing from your school. Thank you!

Our school is doing a separate cohorted class. They said they will do one extra CKLA unit that the regular classes won't do, plus some extra projects and "literature circles.". Does anyone know what literature circles are?

They're basically small groups dedicated to a specific book! They read a book, usually have jobs and then come together as a group after some time to discuss their assigned reading and their jobs!

It sounds like our school will be doing the same for 5th grade next year (4th grade currently has a cohort in ELC, which will be kept together). A big relief because apparently reading actual books is not part of the regular CKLA curriculum somehow? Unbelievable.

The incoming 4th grade will not be cohorted, and will receive enrichment…somehow. Sounds like an absolute cluster. I feel bad for the teachers who are absolutely being set up to fail; every parent is going to hate this as a huge step down from the current program and it’s a very vocal parent group.

Wait I thought CKLA had actual books? Whether separate physical books or online. Like Wind in the Willows and Don Quixote??

Nope. My kids in 4th has only been reading nonfiction from a workbook and the computer program. Seems more like science or social studies than reading.

Then your kid's teacher is not actually following the curriculum.

She is following the curriculum. The Amplify teacher’s guides are available for free online. I looked because I was curious what differentiation strategies were included in the lesson scripts since our school doesn’t do ELC

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Look for yourself. You’ll see grades 3-5 have student readers which look like excerpts from various science and social studies textbooks. We never see actual books come home or any information about what chapter books they are actually reading for the curriculum ( Eva use they aren’t).

https://www.coreknowledge.org/free-resource/ckla-ancillary-materials-fourth-grade/

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You can also search here by grade:

https://www.coreknowledge.org/download-free-curriculum/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Bumping this thread. Please share what you are hearing from your school. Thank you!

Our school is doing a separate cohorted class. They said they will do one extra CKLA unit that the regular classes won't do, plus some extra projects and "literature circles.". Does anyone know what literature circles are?

They're basically small groups dedicated to a specific book! They read a book, usually have jobs and then come together as a group after some time to discuss their assigned reading and their jobs!

It sounds like our school will be doing the same for 5th grade next year (4th grade currently has a cohort in ELC, which will be kept together). A big relief because apparently reading actual books is not part of the regular CKLA curriculum somehow? Unbelievable.

The incoming 4th grade will not be cohorted, and will receive enrichment…somehow. Sounds like an absolute cluster. I feel bad for the teachers who are absolutely being set up to fail; every parent is going to hate this as a huge step down from the current program and it’s a very vocal parent group.

Wait I thought CKLA had actual books? Whether separate physical books or online. Like Wind in the Willows and Don Quixote??

Nope. My kids in 4th has only been reading nonfiction from a workbook and the computer program. Seems more like science or social studies than reading.

Most of it is like that but they should have one fiction unit a year.

4th reads Treasure Island.

Our school specifically said they think one thing that the new curriculum falls behind the current ELC curriculum on pretty badly is the lack of reading and analyzing whole books. So they are trying figure out how to add in some of that more in depth fiction work. I think it’s terrible that some schools will definitely do more to make up the shortcomings of the new curriculum and implementation than others when there was a great curriculum ready and available and no reason to move away from it. Bewildering.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bumping this thread. Please share what you are hearing from your school. Thank you!

Our school is doing a separate cohorted class. They said they will do one extra CKLA unit that the regular classes won't do, plus some extra projects and "literature circles.". Does anyone know what literature circles are?

They're basically small groups dedicated to a specific book! They read a book, usually have jobs and then come together as a group after some time to discuss their assigned reading and their jobs!

It sounds like our school will be doing the same for 5th grade next year (4th grade currently has a cohort in ELC, which will be kept together). A big relief because apparently reading actual books is not part of the regular CKLA curriculum somehow? Unbelievable.

The incoming 4th grade will not be cohorted, and will receive enrichment…somehow. Sounds like an absolute cluster. I feel bad for the teachers who are absolutely being set up to fail; every parent is going to hate this as a huge step down from the current program and it’s a very vocal parent group.

Wait I thought CKLA had actual books? Whether separate physical books or online. Like Wind in the Willows and Don Quixote??

Nope. My kids in 4th has only been reading nonfiction from a workbook and the computer program. Seems more like science or social studies than reading.

Then your kid's teacher is not actually following the curriculum.

She is following the curriculum. The Amplify teacher’s guides are available for free online. I looked because I was curious what differentiation strategies were included in the lesson scripts since our school doesn’t do ELC

They Amplify guides are not avilable online. The Core Knowledge Foundation's are, but that's an older version of the curriculum.

Has your kid not read Treasure Island?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PTA meeting tonight and I plan to ask when/how they will get family feedback about the 2 ELA modeled for next year’s 5th grade (because my kid is in 4th). I expect a vague non-answer, but at least it will put a bug in other parent’s ears a out what is coming

How did it go at the PTA meeting? Did you Delegate share information about this from the MCCPTA curriculum committee and gifted Ed committee?

What is the MCCPTA curriculum committee and gifted committee doing on this? Sounds like you are looped in, can you share?

They are the ones that fought to get ELC in all schools, and usually are on in the loop on where things like this stand. Ask you PTA Delegate or President.

I know they used to be active on this in the past but I have heard zero from them on it this year, no one's even brought it up in the gifted committee Facebook group I don't think. Doesn't sound like anyone there cares anymore...

I specifically remember them putting out a call for elementary school parents last year on this issue, and as far as I could tell from the post, no one volunteered.

Like everything else, the gifted Ed committee is made up of volunteers. If this issue is important to you personally, you can be one of those volunteers. In fact, I would strongly recommend that early elementary parents in particular get up to speed and active in the hopes of changing the situation in time for their kids.

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Anonymous wrote:PTA meeting tonight and I plan to ask when/how they will get family feedback about the 2 ELA modeled for next year’s 5th grade (because my kid is in 4th). I expect a vague non-answer, but at least it will put a bug in other parent’s ears a out what is coming

How did it go at the PTA meeting? Did you Delegate share information about this from the MCCPTA curriculum committee and gifted Ed committee?

What is the MCCPTA curriculum committee and gifted committee doing on this? Sounds like you are looped in, can you share?

They are the ones that fought to get ELC in all schools, and usually are on in the loop on where things like this stand. Ask you PTA Delegate or President.

I know they used to be active on this in the past but I have heard zero from them on it this year, no one's even brought it up in the gifted committee Facebook group I don't think. Doesn't sound like anyone there cares anymore...

I specifically remember them putting out a call for elementary school parents last year on this issue, and as far as I could tell from the post, no one volunteered.

Like everything else, the gifted Ed committee is made up of volunteers. If this issue is important to you personally, you can be one of those volunteers. In fact, I would strongly recommend that early elementary parents in particular get up to speed and active in the hopes of changing the situation in time for their kids.

+1. People cannot do this work for you. You need to step up if you want to see change.

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Anonymous wrote:PTA meeting tonight and I plan to ask when/how they will get family feedback about the 2 ELA modeled for next year’s 5th grade (because my kid is in 4th). I expect a vague non-answer, but at least it will put a bug in other parent’s ears a out what is coming

How did it go at the PTA meeting? Did you Delegate share information about this from the MCCPTA curriculum committee and gifted Ed committee?

What is the MCCPTA curriculum committee and gifted committee doing on this? Sounds like you are looped in, can you share?

They are the ones that fought to get ELC in all schools, and usually are on in the loop on where things like this stand. Ask you PTA Delegate or President.

I know they used to be active on this in the past but I have heard zero from them on it this year, no one's even brought it up in the gifted committee Facebook group I don't think. Doesn't sound like anyone there cares anymore...

I specifically remember them putting out a call for elementary school parents last year on this issue, and as far as I could tell from the post, no one volunteered.

Like everything else, the gifted Ed committee is made up of volunteers. If this issue is important to you personally, you can be one of those volunteers. In fact, I would strongly recommend that early elementary parents in particular get up to speed and active in the hopes of changing the situation in time for their kids.

Where was this call? I can’t go to our school’s PTA meetings because they are always on the same night of the week that I have a conflict. I am exactly the type of parent who would be all over this and I do not remember seeing this at all. I would be happy to devote time and energy if it actually makes a difference. We have people who are on the like SN committee for example but they just seem to listen and report back.

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Anonymous wrote:PTA meeting tonight and I plan to ask when/how they will get family feedback about the 2 ELA modeled for next year’s 5th grade (because my kid is in 4th). I expect a vague non-answer, but at least it will put a bug in other parent’s ears a out what is coming

How did it go at the PTA meeting? Did you Delegate share information about this from the MCCPTA curriculum committee and gifted Ed committee?

What is the MCCPTA curriculum committee and gifted committee doing on this? Sounds like you are looped in, can you share?

They are the ones that fought to get ELC in all schools, and usually are on in the loop on where things like this stand. Ask you PTA Delegate or President.

I know they used to be active on this in the past but I have heard zero from them on it this year, no one's even brought it up in the gifted committee Facebook group I don't think. Doesn't sound like anyone there cares anymore...

I specifically remember them putting out a call for elementary school parents last year on this issue, and as far as I could tell from the post, no one volunteered.

Like everything else, the gifted Ed committee is made up of volunteers. If this issue is important to you personally, you can be one of those volunteers. In fact, I would strongly recommend that early elementary parents in particular get up to speed and active in the hopes of changing the situation in time for their kids.

Where was this call? I can’t go to our school’s PTA meetings because they are always on the same night of the week that I have a conflict. I am exactly the type of parent who would be all over this and I do not remember seeing this at all. I would be happy to devote time and energy if it actually makes a difference. We have people who are on the like SN committee for example but they just seem to listen and report back.

Have you reached out to volunteer? If not, you should.