Your experiences at Va. public universities...

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Anonymous wrote:VT, JMU and even UVA

the outcomes after 4 years are mixed.

Besides govt or big 4 consulting or fed contractors - most graduates have a hard time finding jobs ( yeah.. a few smart coolies get into amazon etc)

for that reason alone I would not send dc in state in Virginia.

Much better outcomes in mid west and west coast/tx

Coolies?

And do you actually believe a University of Oklahoma grad has better job prospects (outside of Oklahoma) than a JMU grad? Come on.

DP.
Even if it's just a little bit, Oklahoma is more prestigious and well regarded in society.

Folks, we’ve got ourselves a troll.

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Anonymous wrote:Oklahoma has way more prestige. JMU is ranked in the 150s. If you want the prestige factor, go to Oklahoma. Not as much prestige as some schools like Penn State but still

^^demented thinking on display

Wow you are rude. Ever consider being nice? Also, it's trues. Oklahoma prestige is on par with most prestigious southern schools.

"Prestigious southern schools?" What is a prestigious southern school? Most "prestige" is in the NE/Ivies/specific other private and state schools....none of which are "southern." The South is not really known for its prestigious academic institutions. They may be very old and very well known, some may have strong football teams.

You know what? 100% correct, as long as you’re also placing Virginia in the south!

Sure. But I'd list W&M along with those other prestigious southern schools.
UVA is only prestigious in Virginia and to UVA alumnae.

W&M is in no way comparable to Duke.

I know, W&M alums are way less annoying.

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Anonymous wrote:Have you considered OOS auto merit awards?

Oklahoma

http://www.ou.edu/admissions/affordability/scholarships.html

Alabama

https://afford.ua.edu/scholarships/out-of-state-freshman/

Arizona (The Arizona Tuition Award)

https://financialaid.arizona.edu/2025-2026-terms-and-conditions

lol why would you send your kid to college in Oklahoma instead of JMU? you people have truly lost the plot.

Because Oklahoma’s merit makes COA competitive while also offering more programs, sports, etc. So it’s an option for some who want to go OOS - oh and it’s higher ranked than JMU (132 vs 148).

That’s the point - it’s demented to put so much store in going out of state and on rankings like that.

"Demented" seems a bit extreme.
Some people WANT a change of scenery. Going to a school where 40 other kids from your class, plus dozens of others that you know from church, out of school ECs, etc. isn't what everyone wants.

DP. My kids attend two of the VA in-state schools and in no way are there "40 other kids" from their class. There are maybe 5-10 from their high school - and they never, ever see any of them.

NP here - 40 other kids was an exaggeration but you could be pushing 30 at VCU and JMU from each large NoVa high school. VT has 20 from many NoVA high schools.

Which high schools send that many to those schools? Post your citations.

Don’t know of hard enrolled numbers but Arlington Magazine posts admitted numbers for each of the three Arlington high schools. You can multiply by each colleges yield to get a rough idea.

https://www.arlingtonmagazine.com/college-applications-arlington-va-2024/

For example, WL had 130 get into JMU and Yorktown had 119. JMU’s yield is 20% so estimate 26 from WL and 24 from Yorktown. VT had 116 and 85, respectively, but VT’s yield is 27% so works out to 31 enrolled from WL and 23 enrolled from Yorktown.

I’ve never seen equivalent data for FCPS but the applicant quality is similar and also Fcps schools are typically bigger than APS.

You don’t have to refer to some bullshit magazine with questionable numbers. SCHEV (Virginia’s official reporter for higher ed data) provides plenty of info.

Taking JMU as an example, the current undergrad enrollment is a little over 21k. 2600 of these students are from Fairfax and 350 are from Arlington. So basically we are talking about 14 percent of JMU students coming from dozens of high schools both public and private from Arlington and Fairfax combined. Hardly high school 2.0.

Weirdos

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The only people who derisively call in-state colleges “high school 2.0” are those whose kids don’t even attend them. They have no idea so just make stupid claims to feel better about spending hundreds of thousands of dollars more than necessary on a middling OOS school/tiny LAC/private.

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Anonymous wrote:not sure why Oklahoma is in this discussion but besides a few majors like data science or accounting, career outcomes are not great at VT, JMU or even UVA.

Its the location. Very few fortune 1000 companies

the top 10-15% get along fine..but at the same time, I know of business majors selling insurance at state farm in richmond

^^This troll has spewed the same nonsense on every thread about VA in-state schools. Never with any citations, of course. So predictable.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have you considered OOS auto merit awards?

Oklahoma

http://www.ou.edu/admissions/affordability/scholarships.html

Alabama

https://afford.ua.edu/scholarships/out-of-state-freshman/

Arizona (The Arizona Tuition Award)

https://financialaid.arizona.edu/2025-2026-terms-and-conditions

lol why would you send your kid to college in Oklahoma instead of JMU? you people have truly lost the plot.

Because Oklahoma’s merit makes COA competitive while also offering more programs, sports, etc. So it’s an option for some who want to go OOS - oh and it’s higher ranked than JMU (132 vs 148).

That’s the point - it’s demented to put so much store in going out of state and on rankings like that.

"Demented" seems a bit extreme.
Some people WANT a change of scenery. Going to a school where 40 other kids from your class, plus dozens of others that you know from church, out of school ECs, etc. isn't what everyone wants.

DP. My kids attend two of the VA in-state schools and in no way are there "40 other kids" from their class. There are maybe 5-10 from their high school - and they never, ever see any of them.

NP here - 40 other kids was an exaggeration but you could be pushing 30 at VCU and JMU from each large NoVa high school. VT has 20 from many NoVA high schools.

Which high schools send that many to those schools? Post your citations.

Don’t know of hard enrolled numbers but Arlington Magazine posts admitted numbers for each of the three Arlington high schools. You can multiply by each colleges yield to get a rough idea.

https://www.arlingtonmagazine.com/college-applications-arlington-va-2024/

For example, WL had 130 get into JMU and Yorktown had 119. JMU’s yield is 20% so estimate 26 from WL and 24 from Yorktown. VT had 116 and 85, respectively, but VT’s yield is 27% so works out to 31 enrolled from WL and 23 enrolled from Yorktown.

I’ve never seen equivalent data for FCPS but the applicant quality is similar and also Fcps schools are typically bigger than APS.

You don’t have to refer to some bullshit magazine with questionable numbers. SCHEV (Virginia’s official reporter for higher ed data) provides plenty of info.

Taking JMU as an example, the current undergrad enrollment is a little over 21k. 2600 of these students are from Fairfax and 350 are from Arlington. So basically we are talking about 14 percent of JMU students coming from dozens of high schools both public and private from Arlington and Fairfax combined. Hardly high school 2.0.

Weirdos

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The only people who derisively call in-state colleges “high school 2.0” are those whose kids don’t even attend them. They have no idea so just make stupid claims to feel better about spending hundreds of thousands of dollars more than necessary on a middling OOS school/tiny LAC/private.

People here are so emotional. Anyone with the money to spend 90k on Williams or Uchicago does not care about your state school.

[Anonymous]

My DD is at UVA from a “mediocre” FCPS high school, along with ten other HS classmates. She only sees two other girls from her school, on a regular basis from her high school. They were close friends to begin with. Most of her friends are from NOVA schools, she met “on grounds”.

She says she does run into her high school classmates very so often, and they are friendly. Her high school only had a few advanced course sections, so she knew most of the kids that went to UVA with her. I think knowing a few more kids going in helped her make more new friends.

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Anonymous wrote:Oklahoma has way more prestige. JMU is ranked in the 150s. If you want the prestige factor, go to Oklahoma. Not as much prestige as some schools like Penn State but still

^^demented thinking on display

Wow you are rude. Ever consider being nice? Also, it's trues. Oklahoma prestige is on par with most prestigious southern schools.

"Prestigious southern schools?" What is a prestigious southern school? Most "prestige" is in the NE/Ivies/specific other private and state schools....none of which are "southern." The South is not really known for its prestigious academic institutions. They may be very old and very well known, some may have strong football teams.

You know what? 100% correct, as long as you’re also placing Virginia in the south!

Sure. But I'd list W&M along with those other prestigious southern schools.
UVA is only prestigious in Virginia and to UVA alumnae.

W&M is in no way comparable to Duke.

I know, W&M alums are way less annoying.

Not on this forum. They now equal the officious UVA boosters.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have you considered OOS auto merit awards?

Oklahoma

http://www.ou.edu/admissions/affordability/scholarships.html

Alabama

https://afford.ua.edu/scholarships/out-of-state-freshman/

Arizona (The Arizona Tuition Award)

https://financialaid.arizona.edu/2025-2026-terms-and-conditions

lol why would you send your kid to college in Oklahoma instead of JMU? you people have truly lost the plot.

Because Oklahoma’s merit makes COA competitive while also offering more programs, sports, etc. So it’s an option for some who want to go OOS - oh and it’s higher ranked than JMU (132 vs 148).

That’s the point - it’s demented to put so much store in going out of state and on rankings like that.

"Demented" seems a bit extreme.
Some people WANT a change of scenery. Going to a school where 40 other kids from your class, plus dozens of others that you know from church, out of school ECs, etc. isn't what everyone wants.

DP. My kids attend two of the VA in-state schools and in no way are there "40 other kids" from their class. There are maybe 5-10 from their high school - and they never, ever see any of them.

NP here - 40 other kids was an exaggeration but you could be pushing 30 at VCU and JMU from each large NoVa high school. VT has 20 from many NoVA high schools.

Which high schools send that many to those schools? Post your citations.

Don’t know of hard enrolled numbers but Arlington Magazine posts admitted numbers for each of the three Arlington high schools. You can multiply by each colleges yield to get a rough idea.

https://www.arlingtonmagazine.com/college-applications-arlington-va-2024/

For example, WL had 130 get into JMU and Yorktown had 119. JMU’s yield is 20% so estimate 26 from WL and 24 from Yorktown. VT had 116 and 85, respectively, but VT’s yield is 27% so works out to 31 enrolled from WL and 23 enrolled from Yorktown.

I’ve never seen equivalent data for FCPS but the applicant quality is similar and also Fcps schools are typically bigger than APS.

You don’t have to refer to some bullshit magazine with questionable numbers. SCHEV (Virginia’s official reporter for higher ed data) provides plenty of info.

Taking JMU as an example, the current undergrad enrollment is a little over 21k. 2600 of these students are from Fairfax and 350 are from Arlington. So basically we are talking about 14 percent of JMU students coming from dozens of high schools both public and private from Arlington and Fairfax combined. Hardly high school 2.0.

Weirdos

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The only people who derisively call in-state colleges “high school 2.0” are those whose kids don’t even attend them. They have no idea so just make stupid claims to feel better about spending hundreds of thousands of dollars more than necessary on a middling OOS school/tiny LAC/private.

People here are so emotional. Anyone with the money to spend 90k on Williams or Uchicago does not care about your state school.

And many with 90k to spend don’t have kids getting into Williams or UChicago - hence the “middling” qualifier. Knock yourself out spending that much money on some third tier private no one’s ever heard of, just so you can bray about your kid going OOS.

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Anonymous wrote:Oklahoma has way more prestige. JMU is ranked in the 150s. If you want the prestige factor, go to Oklahoma. Not as much prestige as some schools like Penn State but still

^^demented thinking on display

Wow you are rude. Ever consider being nice? Also, it's trues. Oklahoma prestige is on par with most prestigious southern schools.

"Prestigious southern schools?" What is a prestigious southern school? Most "prestige" is in the NE/Ivies/specific other private and state schools....none of which are "southern." The South is not really known for its prestigious academic institutions. They may be very old and very well known, some may have strong football teams.

You know what? 100% correct, as long as you’re also placing Virginia in the south!

Sure. But I'd list W&M along with those other prestigious southern schools.
UVA is only prestigious in Virginia and to UVA alumnae.

W&M is in no way comparable to Duke.

I know, W&M alums are way less annoying.

Not on this forum. They now equal the officious UVA boosters.

Those aren’t alums. Those are parents of current students. There is no one more annoying than a NOVA parent of a kid at UVA or W&M.

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Folks know UVa is a public Ivy. If UVA doesn’t work the best alternative is an out of state flagship with merit.

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Anonymous wrote:Folks know UVa is a public Ivy. If UVA doesn’t work the best alternative is an out of state flagship with merit.

Trolly McTrollster, hard at work on a Sunday evening.

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Anonymous wrote:Folks know UVa is a public Ivy. If UVA doesn’t work the best alternative is an out of state flagship with merit.

Trolly McTrollster, hard at work on a Sunday evening.

NP. "Public Ivies" is a real
term snd has been in use 40 years. We college counselors use it: Read wiki and here is AI on it whoch you will find if you google:

Public Ivy schools are highly regarded public universities that are considered to be comparable to the Ivy League:
University of California, Berkeley: A top Public Ivy
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor: A top Public Ivy
University of Virginia: A top Public Ivy
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill: A top Public Ivy
University of Texas at Austin: A leading research institution with a lively campus culture
College of William & Mary: A historic and prestigious school with a strong tradition of public service
Other Public Ivy schools include ....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Folks know UVa is a public Ivy. If UVA doesn’t work the best alternative is an out of state flagship with merit.

Trolly McTrollster, hard at work on a Sunday evening.

NP. "Public Ivies" is a real
term snd has been in use 40 years. We college counselors use it: Read wiki and here is AI on it whoch you will find if you google:

Public Ivy schools are highly regarded public universities that are considered to be comparable to the Ivy League:
University of California, Berkeley: A top Public Ivy
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor: A top Public Ivy
University of Virginia: A top Public Ivy
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill: A top Public Ivy
University of Texas at Austin: A leading research institution with a lively campus culture
College of William & Mary: A historic and prestigious school with a strong tradition of public service
Other Public Ivy schools include ....

UT UNC are the same schools just slapped in different states

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Folks know UVa is a public Ivy. If UVA doesn’t work the best alternative is an out of state flagship with merit.

Trolly McTrollster, hard at work on a Sunday evening.

NP. "Public Ivies" is a real
term snd has been in use 40 years. We college counselors use it: Read wiki and here is AI on it whoch you will find if you google:

Public Ivy schools are highly regarded public universities that are considered to be comparable to the Ivy League:
University of California, Berkeley: A top Public Ivy
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor: A top Public Ivy
University of Virginia: A top Public Ivy
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill: A top Public Ivy
University of Texas at Austin: A leading research institution with a lively campus culture
College of William & Mary: A historic and prestigious school with a strong tradition of public service
Other Public Ivy schools include ....

+1 Nothing about the previous comment warrants calling someone a troll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Folks know UVa is a public Ivy. If UVA doesn’t work the best alternative is an out of state flagship with merit.

Trolly McTrollster, hard at work on a Sunday evening.

NP. "Public Ivies" is a real
term snd has been in use 40 years. We college counselors use it: Read wiki and here is AI on it whoch you will find if you google:

Public Ivy schools are highly regarded public universities that are considered to be comparable to the Ivy League:
University of California, Berkeley: A top Public Ivy
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor: A top Public Ivy
University of Virginia: A top Public Ivy
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill: A top Public Ivy
University of Texas at Austin: A leading research institution with a lively campus culture
College of William & Mary: A historic and prestigious school with a strong tradition of public service
Other Public Ivy schools include ....

University of Maryland at College Park