Mass Deportation: this is going to be expensive

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It will be expensive.
It will cause labor shortages. (I’m largely referring to the folks here on amnesty, not illegal immigrants.).
It will cause prices to rise.
It will lead to Trumpflation.

It will be worth every penny.
It will force employers to hire Americans.
America should not depend on the exploitation of poor and desperate foreigners as an acceptable segment of our economy.
We are already in the midst of high inflation. Let's try something else.

[Anonymous]

We are a sovereign nation. We have to control our borders and vet who is coming into our country. The Biden-Democrat open borders policies are wrong. No other developed country has these insane policies of allowing millions of illegal immigrants to walk into their country. I voted for Trump because I am fed up with illegal immigration. My health insurance premium skyrocketed for next year. This is in addition to my car insurance premium skyrocketing and housing becoming unaffordable. I am convinced it is because of all of the illegal immigrants in the area, driving while uninsured and using the hospital emergency room for care and never paying their bills. Illegal immigration is costly to the American people. Paying marginally more for the cost of produce would be worth the savings we would get from the cost of educating their kids, absorbing the cost for their health care, etc.

[Anonymous]

As long as my eggs are below $2 a dozen, I guess I don't care

[Anonymous]

The problem about replacing illegal immigrant workers with legal American workers is both of those groups pay into our tax structure but only Americans pull out of it. So we are going to have very large shortfalls for social security and Medicaid and Medicare in the very near future because millions of more Americans will be drawing out of that system instead of just paying in

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So what are the MAGAs going to do when they do mass detention and deportation of illegals and it barely makes a dent in crime -

And in fact, crime goes up because costs go up because a lot of the goods and services we enjoyed that were dependent on their labor goes up...

Define crime. Because coming in illegally is a crime. Driving around without insurance is a crime. Working without a valid i9 and not paying state and federal income tax is a crime. Skipping out on hospital bill payments is a crime. Stealing identities and social security numbers so you can work is a crime. You are on,y looking at a fraction of crimes illegal immigrants commit if you think murders are all that matters.


I bought a brand new car and was hit in less than a week after getting it. The guy who got out to look basically spoke zero English and high tailed it out of there, probably because he had no insurance and was undocumented. Now I, as a law abiding citizen, get screwed because I had to pay to fix everything and my insurance went up because I was hit by an undocumented migrant who had no insurance and broke even more laws by hit and running.

+1 The same thing happened to me. A non-english speaking man sideswiped my car in a starbucks drive through of all places. We both got out and I simply stated he hit my car. He walked back to his truck and fled. Fantastic.

Imagine a man rapes and kills your daughter instead of damaging your car? We need the border secured. Trump has a mandate to do that now, and he will.

Anyone who wants to take their daughter to a foreign country to be raped and killed by a legal citizen of that country- feel free. Take your car along and let it be hit into and crumpled up, too.

Good thing that US born men don’t kill and rape

[Anonymous]

There is no price on national security.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's expensive to deport that many people, which is why most of us know there is something way more awful coming.

Correct. However, we are hysterical if we point out history in 1933 is indeed repeating itself in 2024. So, guess we will just be calm as a performative act. See how easy it is for history to repeat itself?

Trump had the Kaiser appoint him leader of the government?

Huh? Maybe you want to read up on German history, say, November 1932-March/Apri 1933?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So what are the MAGAs going to do when they do mass detention and deportation of illegals and it barely makes a dent in crime -

And in fact, crime goes up because costs go up because a lot of the goods and services we enjoyed that were dependent on their labor goes up...

Define crime. Because coming in illegally is a crime. Driving around without insurance is a crime. Working without a valid i9 and not paying state and federal income tax is a crime. Skipping out on hospital bill payments is a crime. Stealing identities and social security numbers so you can work is a crime. You are on,y looking at a fraction of crimes illegal immigrants commit if you think murders are all that matters.


I bought a brand new car and was hit in less than a week after getting it. The guy who got out to look basically spoke zero English and high tailed it out of there, probably because he had no insurance and was undocumented. Now I, as a law abiding citizen, get screwed because I had to pay to fix everything and my insurance went up because I was hit by an undocumented migrant who had no insurance and broke even more laws by hit and running.

+1 The same thing happened to me. A non-english speaking man sideswiped my car in a starbucks drive through of all places. We both got out and I simply stated he hit my car. He walked back to his truck and fled. Fantastic.

Imagine a man rapes and kills your daughter instead of damaging your car? We need the border secured. Trump has a mandate to do that now, and he will.

Anyone who wants to take their daughter to a foreign country to be raped and killed by a legal citizen of that country- feel free. Take your car along and let it be hit into and crumpled up, too.

Good thing that US born men don’t kill and rape

Dumb. Our citizens commit crime. But the difference between crimes committed by our citizens vs crimes committed by undocumented migrants is that the crimes committed by the latter group are 100% preventable. They could never harm our citizens or commit crimes in our country if they were never in here in the first place. That's the difference Dems can't understand for some reason.

Because citizens commit crimes means we should have no control over the border. Yeah, that makes total sense.....said no country ever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The problem about replacing illegal immigrant workers with legal American workers is both of those groups pay into our tax structure but only Americans pull out of it. So we are going to have very large shortfalls for social security and Medicaid and Medicare in the very near future because millions of more Americans will be drawing out of that system instead of just paying in

What a bunch of BS. Explain how undocumented and illegal workers 'pay taxes'. You literally cannot pay income and social security taxes unless you have a valid I9 and a valid SSN/ITIN. They do not give out legal work permits and approved I9s to undocumented migrants, so it is literally impossible to legally pay their fair share of taxes.

The only way taxes are paid via ITINs is by self reporting, which is a joke since most illegal immigrants aren't going to do that, and because so many of them get paid under the table in cash.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It will be expensive.
It will cause labor shortages. (I’m largely referring to the folks here on amnesty, not illegal immigrants.).
It will cause prices to rise.
It will lead to Trumpflation.

It will be worth every penny.
It will force employers to hire Americans.
America should not depend on the exploitation of poor and desperate foreigners as an acceptable segment of our economy.
We are already in the midst of high inflation. Let's try something else.

We are not currently in the midst of high inflation. Inflation is 2.6%. You are ignorant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do not care. The medicine is expensive. Democrats should have thought about this before having mass open borders and allowing anyone to walk in if all they said was 'asylum'. Yes, it will cost a lot of money to fix the cesspool left by the Democrats.

It will be offset though by the tax savings we will get since our schools and hospitals will no longer be overrun. They will finally stop increasing our property taxes to keep paying for more and more schools and teachers who can teach ESL.

You also cannot place a price on our safety and national security. It was so disturbing when they reported how many ISIS affiliates had infiltrated in through our porous borders allowed by Biden, Harris, and the Dems.

Look, being hard-line about this is going to produce heartbreaking stories and photos. It will be a bitter pill. But you wouldn't have to go put people and families in detention centers if they never came here illegally or by gaming the asylum system in the first place. We are an autonomous country that is allowed to exist and have borders. Once we show spine and back bone about being tough on immigration, guess what? People will get the message to not even come and they won't take stupid risks to even try. Moral hazard. In the end, we will save many more lives and suffering by removing all incentives to coming here illegally in the first place. By allowing people in who are caught and released or who can stay for years by gaming the asylum system, you just keep encouraging more and more to take stupid risks and ruin our entire control over immigration. That's a far worse option that inadvertently causes much more suffering.

The US is a country of immigrants. Your ancestors came here illegally too. This land did not belong to them. It belonged to the millions of native Americans who were already living here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It will be expensive.
It will cause labor shortages. (I’m largely referring to the folks here on amnesty, not illegal immigrants.).
It will cause prices to rise.
It will lead to Trumpflation.

It will be worth every penny.
It will force employers to hire Americans.
America should not depend on the exploitation of poor and desperate foreigners as an acceptable segment of our economy.
We are already in the midst of high inflation. Let's try something else.

We are not currently in the midst of high inflation. Inflation is 2.6%. You are ignorant.

My health insurance monthly premium just went up 22%. My car insurance premium went up 14%.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do not care. The medicine is expensive. Democrats should have thought about this before having mass open borders and allowing anyone to walk in if all they said was 'asylum'. Yes, it will cost a lot of money to fix the cesspool left by the Democrats.

It will be offset though by the tax savings we will get since our schools and hospitals will no longer be overrun. They will finally stop increasing our property taxes to keep paying for more and more schools and teachers who can teach ESL.

You also cannot place a price on our safety and national security. It was so disturbing when they reported how many ISIS affiliates had infiltrated in through our porous borders allowed by Biden, Harris, and the Dems.

Look, being hard-line about this is going to produce heartbreaking stories and photos. It will be a bitter pill. But you wouldn't have to go put people and families in detention centers if they never came here illegally or by gaming the asylum system in the first place. We are an autonomous country that is allowed to exist and have borders. Once we show spine and back bone about being tough on immigration, guess what? People will get the message to not even come and they won't take stupid risks to even try. Moral hazard. In the end, we will save many more lives and suffering by removing all incentives to coming here illegally in the first place. By allowing people in who are caught and released or who can stay for years by gaming the asylum system, you just keep encouraging more and more to take stupid risks and ruin our entire control over immigration. That's a far worse option that inadvertently causes much more suffering.

The US is a country of immigrants. Your ancestors came here illegally too. This land did not belong to them. It belonged to the millions of native Americans who were already living here.

The govt was not providing housing and medical expenses to them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are a sovereign nation. We have to control our borders and vet who is coming into our country. The Biden-Democrat open borders policies are wrong. No other developed country has these insane policies of allowing millions of illegal immigrants to walk into their country. I voted for Trump because I am fed up with illegal immigration. My health insurance premium skyrocketed for next year. This is in addition to my car insurance premium skyrocketing and housing becoming unaffordable. I am convinced it is because of all of the illegal immigrants in the area, driving while uninsured and using the hospital emergency room for care and never paying their bills. Illegal immigration is costly to the American people. Paying marginally more for the cost of produce would be worth the savings we would get from the cost of educating their kids, absorbing the cost for their health care, etc.

Oh well if you’re convinced, surely that must be so. It can’t possibly be any more complex than that and a GLOBAL problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The problem about replacing illegal immigrant workers with legal American workers is both of those groups pay into our tax structure but only Americans pull out of it. So we are going to have very large shortfalls for social security and Medicaid and Medicare in the very near future because millions of more Americans will be drawing out of that system instead of just paying in

Loudly proclaiming that we should support the exploitation of the Poor's labor so that they pay into a system they will never benefit from shows terrible character on your part.