Walz vs. Vance: VP Debate Oct 1 2024
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Anonymous
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If you are toying with voting Republican …bear in mind that voting R comes with at least a 25% chance that Vance will become president before the end of a 2nd Trump term!
https://theconversation.com/biden-and-trump-though-old-are-both-likely-to-survive-to-the-end-of-the-next-presidents-term-demographers-explain-225153 |
Anonymous
Glamorous 'night time' make-up or more of a wholesome young-and-fresh look? |
Anonymous
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Ah, for the good old days of the Pence - Harris debate. The fly won. 
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Anonymous
| Walz is likeable and relatable. Vance is a worm. And he can't be trusted around a couch. |
Anonymous
Will they really do this to a physician? They should. AND publish their names. |
Anonymous
are you me? I couldn't agree more. |
Anonymous
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Vance is not fit to run as VP. Period.
JD Vance will pull a bunch of gotcha and cheap dirty tricks to throw Tim Walz on the defensive, and declare himself the "winner" of the vp debate, but the NYTimes new editorial has a great point about regardless of how the debate goes, why Vance can not be trusted as VP: "On Tuesday night, JD Vance will face Tim Walz in what is likely to be the only vice-presidential debate of the 2024 election. As American voters assess Mr. Vance, they should scrutinize whether he has demonstrated the fundamental fidelity to the Constitution that the office requires. Before and after his selection as Donald Trump’s running mate, Mr. Vance said repeatedly that if he had been vice president on Jan. 6, 2021, he would have intervened in the electoral count in favor of President Trump. Unlike Mike Pence, Mr. Vance has made clear that he is willing to cater to Mr. Trump’s obsession with the myth that his victory in the 2020 presidential election was stolen, and that on Jan. 6 Vice President Pence refused to exercise his constitutional powers to prevent that theft. Unwavering commitment to those two lies served as critical qualifications for Mr. Vance to be selected as Mr. Trump’s running mate. In the 2024 election, that dedication must also disqualify Mr. Vance from ever holding the office he now seeks." "By saying he would have prevented Congress from counting the electoral votes that confirmed President Biden’s victory, Mr. Vance has admitted that he would have asserted an extra-constitutional power to abet Mr. Trump’s plot to remain in power. And he would have done so based on long-disproven conspiracy theories of fraud and illegality in the election that Mr. Trump legitimately and lawfully lost. Even more chilling, Mr. Vance’s pledge about what he would have done in Mr. Pence’s place on Jan. 6, 2021, is a promise about what Mr. Vance will do on Jan. 6, 2029, should he preside over the electoral count as vice president. He is telling us more than four years in advance that if he is a candidate to be president himself, he would be willing to defy the courts and Congress to seize power regardless of the lawful outcome of the 2028 election. The law is clear: The vice president, who presides over the electoral count as president of the Senate, has no constitutional power to reject electoral votes, to delay the electoral count, to send the issue back to the states or to do anything else that Mr. Vance is claiming he would have done — and that he is threatening to do if he one day sits in the vice president’s chair." https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/01/opinion/jd...-vice-president.html |
Anonymous
Yeah, but the eyeliner helps to cover up a lot of that. People really like his eyeliner. |
Anonymous
If they’re voting for this ticket, they’re okay with Christian nationalism. JD the couch wrecker is no deterrence. |
Anonymous
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LOL here's what the Daily Beast predicts Vance will do in the debate tonight (to impress his audience of one, Trump). Vance is so predictable that I think he'll actually do everything on this list.
"Vance knows that his debate performance must please an “audience of one.” Job one is to make Daddy Donald proud. Reasonable and empathetic just won’t cut it. Here are ten predictions for how Vance will follow in Kavanaugh’s footsteps by using a sharp tone, being overly emotional and saying a few things he should not say. 1. At the top, Vance will accuse his opponent of lying. He will do this to insulate himself against Walz doing what Harris brilliantly did when she announced at the top of her debate: “I’m going to tell you all, in this debate tonight, you’re going to hear from the same old, tired playbook, a bunch of lies, grievances and name calling.” Vance will then let loose with his own lies, grievances, and name calling. CBS has already stated that they will not provide any fact checking. 2. Vance will laugh off the “childless cat lady” comments as a joke. The problem, he will explain, is that feminists have no sense of humor. 3. Vance will righteously rage against Walz for calling Republicans “weird.” He will try to use the fact that Walz’s son is neurodivergent to claim that “weird” is a cruel insult and the Democrats should be ashamed of themselves. 4. Vance will mention Haitians eating dogs and cats. Trump knows he fumbled when he blurted in his debate with Harris, “In Springfield, they are eating the dogs. The people that came in, they are eating the cats. They’re eating – they are eating the pets of the people that live there." Vance knows he must double down to make Trump feel less humiliated. 5. Vance will say something positive about Trump’s crowd size because, of course, there is no greater measure of a man than the size of his crowds. 6. Vance will use moral licensing (where youre one good deed allows you to follow with many bad ones) to point out that his wife Usha comes from a family of immigrants and, therefore, he can’t possibly be anti-immigrant. 7. Vance will use moral licensing to point out that he loves his amazing wife Usha and, therefore, he can’t possibly be anti-woman. 8. Vance will definitely throw in a “mamaw” and “papaw” to prove his hillbilly bona fides. 9. Vance will not mention his overlord Peter Thiel who handed over $15 million to Vance’s 2022 senatorial campaign and lobbied for Vance to be Trump’s running mate. 10. Vance will get angry. Very angry. Then he will defend his anger as patriotism. See, he just loves this country so much… that’s why he has to smack it around." https://www.thedailybeast.com/you-wont-like-who-jd-vance-will-copy-at-tonights-vice-presidential-debate-brett-kavanaugh |
Anonymous
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Why are these two ladies moderating tonight? Who picks who will moderate?
Walz will waltz away victorious from this dance! |
Anonymous
| Vance is unflappable, articulate, quick thinking and will be a formidable debate opponent. I’m not voting his ticket but this is my honest opinion. Out of the candidates on both tickets he is the strongest debater. |