So Noah Lyles running in the Olympics on Day2 of Covid...impressive or jerk move?

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Anonymous wrote:I genuinely admire the guy overall, and have no issue with him running it, but why did he go up and hug the gold medalist afterwards, since neither was wearing a mask, and it seemed unnecessary. I don't think it was a jerk move in the sense that it was intentional, but not well thought out.

This was irresponsible. He is not the only one who has trained for years for this experience .

And all those other people would have done the same thing. No serious medal contender at the Olympics would have wanted a policy banning sick people from competing.

This just proves someone else needs to making rational decisions for these people. They are too focused on winning and not their long term health.

It's *hilarious* reading that from someone in far worse health than these athletes. Their choices aren't the ones you should be worried about.

So, if I get advice from someone who isn't healthier than me, I should ignore it?

If it’s health advice … yeah, maybe

These people are only looking out for themselves they are just trying to justify some lock down quarantine fantasy because of their own poor health. It has nothing to do with what’s best for an athlete or what works for their body. They don’t want to be sick, ever, and if everyone needs to lock down to protect them, so be it. It’s a self serving fantasy.

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I haven't read all 11 pages, but two points:

1) he was kind of a dope for expending so much energy on his entrance, knowing what he knew, he could have displayed a bit of humility.
2) he was a little irresponsible exposing the first responders who were themselves probably overdoing it for the Diva that he was portraying.

America will forgive him, his fortunes will grow immensely.

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Anonymous wrote:These are healthy young adults. A bit of a virus isn't going to stop them from competing in the biggest event of their lives.

However, vigorous exercise while actively infected is linked with development of long COVID. So a bit of virus may stop them from
nearly everything else thereafter.

Everyone acting like this is “normal” we are “back to” is complicit in the suffering these folks will experience. You’ll say a lot of things—but don’t say you were not informed.

Vigorous exercise for the otherwise couch potatoes. He will be fine in a few days.

No, an Olympic event is vigorous even for a well-trained athlete. What this guy did was a risk and he's not going to know the outcome of the risk--to him!--for a while. I wish him the best but I think he's an idiot.

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Anonymous wrote:These are healthy young adults. A bit of a virus isn't going to stop them from competing in the biggest event of their lives.

However, vigorous exercise while actively infected is linked with development of long COVID. So a bit of virus may stop them from
nearly everything else thereafter.

Everyone acting like this is “normal” we are “back to” is complicit in the suffering these folks will experience. You’ll say a lot of things—but don’t say you were not informed.

Vigorous exercise for the otherwise couch potatoes. He will be fine in a few days.

No, an Olympic event is vigorous even for a well-trained athlete. What this guy did was a risk and he's not going to know the outcome of the risk--to him!--for a while. I wish him the best but I think he's an idiot.

Not going to know the risk? Where did you get your MD from, Dr?

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Anonymous wrote:These are healthy young adults. A bit of a virus isn't going to stop them from competing in the biggest event of their lives.

However, vigorous exercise while actively infected is linked with development of long COVID. So a bit of virus may stop them from
nearly everything else thereafter.

Everyone acting like this is “normal” we are “back to” is complicit in the suffering these folks will experience. You’ll say a lot of things—but don’t say you were not informed.

Vigorous exercise for the otherwise couch potatoes. He will be fine in a few days.

No, an Olympic event is vigorous even for a well-trained athlete. What this guy did was a risk and he's not going to know the outcome of the risk--to him!--for a while. I wish him the best but I think he's an idiot.

No, there really isn't data supporting that claim. There's *some* data suggesting that people already experiencing long covid may be at greater risk of worsening symptoms with exercise, but even there there's conflicting data. Some studies suggest exercise helps.

Regardless, no Olympic athlete is at non-trivial risk from covid.

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Anonymous wrote:These are healthy young adults. A bit of a virus isn't going to stop them from competing in the biggest event of their lives.

However, vigorous exercise while actively infected is linked with development of long COVID. So a bit of virus may stop them from
nearly everything else thereafter.

Everyone acting like this is “normal” we are “back to” is complicit in the suffering these folks will experience. You’ll say a lot of things—but don’t say you were not informed.

Vigorous exercise for the otherwise couch potatoes. He will be fine in a few days.

No, an Olympic event is vigorous even for a well-trained athlete. What this guy did was a risk and he's not going to know the outcome of the risk--to him!--for a while. I wish him the best but I think he's an idiot.

Nutter he'll be just fine.

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Anonymous wrote:These are healthy young adults. A bit of a virus isn't going to stop them from competing in the biggest event of their lives.

However, vigorous exercise while actively infected is linked with development of long COVID. So a bit of virus may stop them from
nearly everything else thereafter.

Everyone acting like this is “normal” we are “back to” is complicit in the suffering these folks will experience. You’ll say a lot of things—but don’t say you were not informed.

Vigorous exercise for the otherwise couch potatoes. He will be fine in a few days.

No, an Olympic event is vigorous even for a well-trained athlete. What this guy did was a risk and he's not going to know the outcome of the risk--to him!--for a while. I wish him the best but I think he's an idiot.

Nutter he'll be just fine.

I do hope so, for his sake. But combined, the odds that every athlete who competed while infected gets away without post-acute complications is low. Calling me “nutter” and re-asserting “he’ll be fine” does not change that.

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Anonymous wrote:These are healthy young adults. A bit of a virus isn't going to stop them from competing in the biggest event of their lives.

However, vigorous exercise while actively infected is linked with development of long COVID. So a bit of virus may stop them from
nearly everything else thereafter.

Everyone acting like this is “normal” we are “back to” is complicit in the suffering these folks will experience. You’ll say a lot of things—but don’t say you were not informed.

Vigorous exercise for the otherwise couch potatoes. He will be fine in a few days.

No, an Olympic event is vigorous even for a well-trained athlete. What this guy did was a risk and he's not going to know the outcome of the risk--to him!--for a while. I wish him the best but I think he's an idiot.

Nutter he'll be just fine.

I do hope so, for his sake. But combined, the odds that every athlete who competed while infected gets away without post-acute complications is low. Calling me “nutter” and re-asserting “he’ll be fine” does not change that.

You’re arguing without facts. Nobody cares about your uneducated opinions. Go get some fresh air.

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Anonymous wrote:These are healthy young adults. A bit of a virus isn't going to stop them from competing in the biggest event of their lives.

However, vigorous exercise while actively infected is linked with development of long COVID. So a bit of virus may stop them from
nearly everything else thereafter.

Everyone acting like this is “normal” we are “back to” is complicit in the suffering these folks will experience. You’ll say a lot of things—but don’t say you were not informed.

Vigorous exercise for the otherwise couch potatoes. He will be fine in a few days.

No, an Olympic event is vigorous even for a well-trained athlete. What this guy did was a risk and he's not going to know the outcome of the risk--to him!--for a while. I wish him the best but I think he's an idiot.

Nutter he'll be just fine.

I do hope so, for his sake. But combined, the odds that every athlete who competed while infected gets away without post-acute complications is low. Calling me “nutter” and re-asserting “he’ll be fine” does not change that.

That's not how statistics work and in any case that's not even what the science says:

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/exercise-may-ease-covid-19-and-long-covid-symptoms

The jury is actually out on long Covid (other studies have indicated that exercising when you have long Covid can lead to a flare up in symptoms). I suspect this is because what we now consider long Covid is actually a variety of different post-viral syndromes and eventually they will be separated and grouped with existing post-viral syndromes. Like chronic fatigue syndrome.

But Lyles doesn't have long covid or chronic fatigue syndrome. He had covid and chose to exercise with it. The vast majority of people with Covid fully recover fairly quickly and evidence shows that exercising when you have Covid not only will not harm you but could help you recover.

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Anonymous wrote:These are healthy young adults. A bit of a virus isn't going to stop them from competing in the biggest event of their lives.

However, vigorous exercise while actively infected is linked with development of long COVID. So a bit of virus may stop them from
nearly everything else thereafter.

Everyone acting like this is “normal” we are “back to” is complicit in the suffering these folks will experience. You’ll say a lot of things—but don’t say you were not informed.

Vigorous exercise for the otherwise couch potatoes. He will be fine in a few days.

No, an Olympic event is vigorous even for a well-trained athlete. What this guy did was a risk and he's not going to know the outcome of the risk--to him!--for a while. I wish him the best but I think he's an idiot.

Nutter he'll be just fine.

I do hope so, for his sake. But combined, the odds that every athlete who competed while infected gets away without post-acute complications is low. Calling me “nutter” and re-asserting “he’ll be fine” does not change that.

You’re arguing without facts. Nobody cares about your uneducated opinions. Go get some fresh air.

It’s hard to with a mask on

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These are healthy young adults. A bit of a virus isn't going to stop them from competing in the biggest event of their lives.

However, vigorous exercise while actively infected is linked with development of long COVID. So a bit of virus may stop them from
nearly everything else thereafter.

Everyone acting like this is “normal” we are “back to” is complicit in the suffering these folks will experience. You’ll say a lot of things—but don’t say you were not informed.

Vigorous exercise for the otherwise couch potatoes. He will be fine in a few days.

No, an Olympic event is vigorous even for a well-trained athlete. What this guy did was a risk and he's not going to know the outcome of the risk--to him!--for a while. I wish him the best but I think he's an idiot.

Nutter he'll be just fine.

I do hope so, for his sake. But combined, the odds that every athlete who competed while infected gets away without post-acute complications is low. Calling me “nutter” and re-asserting “he’ll be fine” does not change that.

That's not how statistics work and in any case that's not even what the science says:

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/exercise-may-ease-covid-19-and-long-covid-symptoms

The jury is actually out on long Covid (other studies have indicated that exercising when you have long Covid can lead to a flare up in symptoms). I suspect this is because what we now consider long Covid is actually a variety of different post-viral syndromes and eventually they will be separated and grouped with existing post-viral syndromes. Like chronic fatigue syndrome.

But Lyles doesn't have long covid or chronic fatigue syndrome. He had covid and chose to exercise with it. The vast majority of people with Covid fully recover fairly quickly and evidence shows that exercising when you have Covid not only will not harm you but could help you recover.

All of this. The other pp is crazy.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These are healthy young adults. A bit of a virus isn't going to stop them from competing in the biggest event of their lives.

However, vigorous exercise while actively infected is linked with development of long COVID. So a bit of virus may stop them from
nearly everything else thereafter.

Everyone acting like this is “normal” we are “back to” is complicit in the suffering these folks will experience. You’ll say a lot of things—but don’t say you were not informed.

Vigorous exercise for the otherwise couch potatoes. He will be fine in a few days.

No, an Olympic event is vigorous even for a well-trained athlete. What this guy did was a risk and he's not going to know the outcome of the risk--to him!--for a while. I wish him the best but I think he's an idiot.

Nutter he'll be just fine.

I do hope so, for his sake. But combined, the odds that every athlete who competed while infected gets away without post-acute complications is low. Calling me “nutter” and re-asserting “he’ll be fine” does not change that.

You’re arguing without facts. Nobody cares about your uneducated opinions. Go get some fresh air.

It’s hard to with a mask on

Apparently for PP it’s hard to think and make logical arguments while hyperventilating in their basement with several masks on.

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I think many of the posters on here would need smelling salts if they had any idea what kind of stress these athletes have already put themselves through to make it this far, often from a very young age. The kind of fluid exposure in the sport you don’t even think (like wrestling) happens, happens. Many runners have run on stress fractures, bleeding feet, pain.. through pneumonia of the non COVID type… all kinds of things. That’s how they’ve made it this far. They KNOW the risks, because they’ve done it already, many of them probably with COVID already.

These are high level athletes that have accepted the risks of going to this competition. They’ve worked their whole lives for it, and the communities are not that huge that they don’t know each other. Of course they hugged. And of course they’re going home to isolate because they would have anyway after being in the environment they’ve been in for weeks. COVID, norovirus, campylobacter, e-coli, STIs - they know the risks. They may be “jocks” but these are smart, driven people.

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Anonymous wrote:Neither. I think his trainer/manager should have not let him run, because he has asthma.

You know he had asthma before he got covid, right? He probably had an albuterol inhaler around in case he needed it.

The inhaler was handed to him as soon as he got up after his run.

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Anonymous wrote:These are healthy young adults. A bit of a virus isn't going to stop them from competing in the biggest event of their lives.

However, vigorous exercise while actively infected is linked with development of long COVID. So a bit of virus may stop them from
nearly everything else thereafter.

Everyone acting like this is “normal” we are “back to” is complicit in the suffering these folks will experience. You’ll say a lot of things—but don’t say you were not informed.

Vigorous exercise for the otherwise couch potatoes. He will be fine in a few days.

No, an Olympic event is vigorous even for a well-trained athlete. What this guy did was a risk and he's not going to know the outcome of the risk--to him!--for a while. I wish him the best but I think he's an idiot.

The reason many African athletes do well in marathons is because they have experienced painful tribal rituals that inure them to some degree to the paint of running at a high speed for 26 miles. Many athletes have trained their bodies that they are in top condition and can endure pain and and have larger lung capacity than ordinary people. Other than asthma, I suspect Lyles is in the top 1 percentile of physical condition. He chose to rely on the body he has trained rather than the medical advice you might think appropriate. It is not Lyles who is the idiot.