Netanyahu on CNBC opposes a two state solution for the Palestenians

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Anonymous wrote:How about a one state solution? Where Palestenians are given freedoms and citizenship in Israel where they have economic opportunties and political freedoms to vote? Is this a crazy idea?

Why is that hard? America is not split between white america and black america. There isn't two countries in America. There is just America and all citizens given freedoms, white americans, black americans, hispanic americans, etc.

Am I missing something in my logic? Why cannot the Palestenians be granted Israeli citizenship and become citizens?


Because a Jewish state assumes a Jewish majority and a Jewish rule. That's why.


Why does there have to be a Jewish state at the expense of the Palestinian people. In what other circumstances do we allow ethno and religious states? We didn't allow America to become a "White" country. No one split South Africa into two.

If Jewish people want to live in Israel, fine, but you don't get to cleanse the place of everyone else who lives there, and you don't get to disenfranchise those people and treat them as second class citizens. It's not a sustainable solution and was never an appropriate response to the Holocaust. It just feeds into this idea of Jewish supremacy, and isn't any different than white supremacy and other such nonsense.


It is different, though. Sorry but Jews are special. Truly they’ve been persecuted throughout history and everyone kinda hates them. If they want to be left alone to in their own state, it’s the most reasonable basis for “supremacy” that ever existed.

I don’t buy that propaganda, Jews are no more special than anyone else.
And by the way, the Gypsies in Europe have been persecuted more


Name another group that’s been persecuted as a matter of government policy (not just random bigotry) as much?

Roma (wtf with “Gypsies”) are itinerant and don’t want a state, so it’s not a good analogy. If they did, however, maybe they’d have similar claim to necessary protection.

Plenty
The native Americans, black slaves in the US, the Russian rule has always been brutal to all ethnic minorities, plenty oppressed in China, South America has its own stories, Zulu empire was brutal

The list goes on


Russian “oppression” is not the same thing as mass killing targeting an ethnic group. Russia has deported certain groups and but not mass murdered them. Also Russia is awful to everyone includes Russians who were serfs/slaves. Same with China’s treatment - re-educating Uyghurs is awful but they aren’t slaughtering them en masse. Please be more specific about “South America.” What ethnic group was singled out for extermination by the Zulu empire? What are you even talking about. Yes, lots of governments are brutal and awful. No, no cohesive national group has been so consistently persecuted as the Jews.


Zionism was founded in order to save Jews from Russian pogroms. If the Russian pogroms weren't that bad then well whoops to your argument.


Reading comprehension fail. Jews are special. Get over it.


No. They aren't. You're no different than a skinhead screeching about white power. You sound stupid.


You sound historically ignorant and incapable of taking account of the context behind Israel’s existence.


There's no historical context that makes Jewish people superior to anyone else. Yeah they've been through shit. So have a lot of other people. They're still just people after all, no better than anyone else. It's this kind of thinking that's found yourselves becoming the very thing you once fought against.


I am not Jewish. The impetus behind Jews wanting a tiny country of self-governance for their own safety and security is not difficult for me to understand. You have to be the worst kind of black-and-white thinker to believe that in this scenario Israelis are acting “just like” American white supremacists.


You have to be drunk on propaganda and crazy with cognitive dissonance if you can't see that calling yourself a superior race entitled to your own ethno fiefdom cleansed of the indigenous population is exactly the same as white supremacists.


All religions think they are uniquely correct. Judaism’s notion of a chosen people is THE MOST benign manifestation of that phenomenon. No proselytizing. No domination. Jews have to hold themselves to a higher standard than others. It’s a chosen-ness that imposes burdens. If you are such a simpleton that you reduce everything to “Jews think they are a superior race,” then God speed to you. Navigating a world that’s more complex than your mind can handle must be tough.


yes- its benign of you are not middle eastern/claim decent from Abraham, what do you think happened to Ismael's progeny, or Midian's or Esau's? - people still live there who claim decent from them, just like the Jews say they are B'nai Israel (real name Jacob), there are B'ait/B'nai blah blah all over the Middle East

in their indigenous lands Jews dont just hold themselves to the burden of 'higher' standards (eyeroll). They believe that all of the Middle East from present day Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Lower Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Jordan was given to their ancestor and that God told them to kill all of their cousins who lived there. Their religion is old and nasty and barbaric, it is only palatable to us b/c most jews have abandoned most of their teachings which are pretty shitty and gross- all the garbage parts of Christianity and an even more barbaric form of Islam- the post enlightenment, heavily edited europeanized version that we are familiar with is being more and more heavily rejected by more and more of the Israeli population as they spend generations away from the frankly civilizing influence of the modern western world and in their desert domain which they think its their manifest destiny to cleanse and occupy. Talmud fine but anyone who is running around saying the OT is anything but backwards is just another kind of Taliban- in fact Taliban means seeker after knowledge isn't that what those dudes with the weird curls and heavy coats and fur hats say they are? scholars?? we let religious weirdos get away with way too much- the catholic priests, the somalis with the FGM, the orthodox with their weird cult spaces in Mexico, I wonder of they run into FLDS down there. birds of a feather. Amish seems to be pretty nice actually but who knows? I'm sorry but my nice neighbor down the street who bakes amazing babka from scratch isn't the same as the people living in Israel.. even people who are like her are getting pushed out and bullied by the far right religious fanatics and the fear of not having a place of refuge in case of another displacement is what is keeping people like her supportive of Israel but her grandkids won't find it a place of refuge in 50 years, not unless they are cool with wearing wigs and tights in he middle eastern desert.
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Anonymous wrote:How about a one state solution? Where Palestenians are given freedoms and citizenship in Israel where they have economic opportunties and political freedoms to vote? Is this a crazy idea?

Why is that hard? America is not split between white america and black america. There isn't two countries in America. There is just America and all citizens given freedoms, white americans, black americans, hispanic americans, etc.

Am I missing something in my logic? Why cannot the Palestenians be granted Israeli citizenship and become citizens?


Because a Jewish state assumes a Jewish majority and a Jewish rule. That's why.


Why does there have to be a Jewish state at the expense of the Palestinian people. In what other circumstances do we allow ethno and religious states? We didn't allow America to become a "White" country. No one split South Africa into two.

If Jewish people want to live in Israel, fine, but you don't get to cleanse the place of everyone else who lives there, and you don't get to disenfranchise those people and treat them as second class citizens. It's not a sustainable solution and was never an appropriate response to the Holocaust. It just feeds into this idea of Jewish supremacy, and isn't any different than white supremacy and other such nonsense.


It is different, though. Sorry but Jews are special. Truly they’ve been persecuted throughout history and everyone kinda hates them. If they want to be left alone to in their own state, it’s the most reasonable basis for “supremacy” that ever existed.

I don’t buy that propaganda, Jews are no more special than anyone else.
And by the way, the Gypsies in Europe have been persecuted more


Name another group that’s been persecuted as a matter of government policy (not just random bigotry) as much?

Roma (wtf with “Gypsies”) are itinerant and don’t want a state, so it’s not a good analogy. If they did, however, maybe they’d have similar claim to necessary protection.

Plenty
The native Americans, black slaves in the US, the Russian rule has always been brutal to all ethnic minorities, plenty oppressed in China, South America has its own stories, Zulu empire was brutal

The list goes on


Russian “oppression” is not the same thing as mass killing targeting an ethnic group. Russia has deported certain groups and but not mass murdered them. Also Russia is awful to everyone includes Russians who were serfs/slaves. Same with China’s treatment - re-educating Uyghurs is awful but they aren’t slaughtering them en masse. Please be more specific about “South America.” What ethnic group was singled out for extermination by the Zulu empire? What are you even talking about. Yes, lots of governments are brutal and awful. No, no cohesive national group has been so consistently persecuted as the Jews.


Zionism was founded in order to save Jews from Russian pogroms. If the Russian pogroms weren't that bad then well whoops to your argument.


Reading comprehension fail. Jews are special. Get over it.


No. They aren't. You're no different than a skinhead screeching about white power. You sound stupid.


You sound historically ignorant and incapable of taking account of the context behind Israel’s existence.


There's no historical context that makes Jewish people superior to anyone else. Yeah they've been through shit. So have a lot of other people. They're still just people after all, no better than anyone else. It's this kind of thinking that's found yourselves becoming the very thing you once fought against.


I am not Jewish. The impetus behind Jews wanting a tiny country of self-governance for their own safety and security is not difficult for me to understand. You have to be the worst kind of black-and-white thinker to believe that in this scenario Israelis are acting “just like” American white supremacists.


You have to be drunk on propaganda and crazy with cognitive dissonance if you can't see that calling yourself a superior race entitled to your own ethno fiefdom cleansed of the indigenous population is exactly the same as white supremacists.


All religions think they are uniquely correct. Judaism’s notion of a chosen people is THE MOST benign manifestation of that phenomenon. No proselytizing. No domination. Jews have to hold themselves to a higher standard than others. It’s a chosen-ness that imposes burdens. If you are such a simpleton that you reduce everything to “Jews think they are a superior race,” then God speed to you. Navigating a world that’s more complex than your mind can handle must be tough.


There is nothing BENIGN about thinking you are superior to others. Nothing.


What reaction do you get from Muslims when you scream that at them?

Oh wait, you don’t have a problem with Islam or any other religion? You know, you can’t even *enter* Mecca, period, if you are not Muslim?

You’re ignorant and picking on Israel just works for you for reasons that you should really examine closely.


I do have a problem with that as well. But we're talking about Palestine, the most secular Arab nation there is, and not Saudi Arabia. If I have problem with Saudi doing that should I not also have a problem with Israel doing it?


Plenty of Israelis are secular too, but here you are droning on about Jews thinking they are the chosen people! Gaza is probably more religious than Israel and should have been building more schools instead of the ridiculous density of mosques in that place. You have given probably zero percent of your life to caring about what far more horrible countries than Israel are doing.


Lol, you're so unbelievably wrong with your assumptions. I'm a full on Arendt, Goldstone, etc stan.


Name dropping people smarter than you! Well that certainly excuses you from responding in your own words.


yes- people who also agreed that the IDF are genocidal manics and terrorists and Israelis suck- Arendt definitely propagated that world view. She was basically like oh look- the victims of the Nazis have become full on fascists, do you no longer think she is smart now bc she disagreed with you rather vehemently?
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Anonymous wrote:What am I reading here? Jewish people are special so they have a hall pass to commit genocide or other atrocities in the names of a Jewish homeland? Is this how low we have all fallen?

Tell me this is not what pro Israeli people are talking.


No one is saying specialness justifies genocide. But it does justify Israel existing as a Jewish state.


Seriously why? I am not jew and have no interest is a Jewish state. Why should the US be the guarantor of a Jewish state? Why should the resources of the US be at the call of a Jewish state?

I understand if you are Jewish. You have your own private country paid for and protected by the US. It does not make sense for anyone else.


Because it also happens to be an awesome military ally in the region, an albeit imperfect democracy in a region full of crap regimes (that no one at Columbia bothers to protest on the regular!) and technology hub from which the US benefits. Israel rocks.


Israel is not our ally. Get real. We know their intelligence is self serving to the point of being useless and why would anyone trust it after all the major failures? Israel does not allow US to use their airspace or airfields. They would never provide troops or help us in a war. It is a real struggle to see Israel as ally of the US. At best Israel is a protectorate.



Palestine isn’t an ally either.


NP - we haven’t sent $300 billion to Palestine. I’m not Jewish and when it comes to the Middle East, I generally think Everyone Sucks Here. Does Israel have the right to exist? Sure, it’s there. But why are we continuing to fund it? What are we getting out of it, besides it supporting our defense industry (though they’ve built up their own)? Netanyahu can’t even pretend to appreciate American aid much less play nice with our leadership. I would rather see that $1 billion go toward housing Americans, providing food assistance or supporting our school. Hell, even paying down the national debt.
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Netanyahu must be feeling very comfortable knowing he has enough influence to throw away the two state solution. It is incredibly watching a little unimportant country like Israel pull the US around by the nose.

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Anonymous wrote:What am I reading here? Jewish people are special so they have a hall pass to commit genocide or other atrocities in the names of a Jewish homeland? Is this how low we have all fallen?

Tell me this is not what pro Israeli people are talking.


No one is saying specialness justifies genocide. But it does justify Israel existing as a Jewish state.


Seriously why? I am not jew and have no interest is a Jewish state. Why should the US be the guarantor of a Jewish state? Why should the resources of the US be at the call of a Jewish state?

I understand if you are Jewish. You have your own private country paid for and protected by the US. It does not make sense for anyone else.


Because it also happens to be an awesome military ally in the region, an albeit imperfect democracy in a region full of crap regimes (that no one at Columbia bothers to protest on the regular!) and technology hub from which the US benefits. Israel rocks.


Israel is not our ally. Get real. We know their intelligence is self serving to the point of being useless and why would anyone trust it after all the major failures? Israel does not allow US to use their airspace or airfields. They would never provide troops or help us in a war. It is a real struggle to see Israel as ally of the US. At best Israel is a protectorate.


THANK YOU. Glad to see the propaganda of Israel is the best buddy of the US working overtime.
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Anonymous wrote:Netanyahu must be feeling very comfortable knowing he has enough influence to throw away the two state solution. It is incredibly watching a little unimportant country like Israel pull the US around by the nose.



If we were going purely by natural resource, the Muslim countries provide more benefit to us.

Petroleum is in everything . Not just cares but medicine and cosmetics and soaps.

Israel’s benefit is they help us with security and intelligence supposedly. Except, their intelligence was withheld to us about 9/11 and told to us falsely about Iraq. Turns out the Muslim countries actually provided better intelligence to both us and Israel about 9/11 and 10/7 but we ignored it.

A foreign entity can’t provide intelligence on radical Islamic terror like an actual Muslim country can.

We also wouldn’t have radical Islamic terror if we didn’t send bombs with made in USA on them to obliterate their nations. China makes IPhones and furniture. We make bombs and weapons, but we gaslight middle America into thinking factory work is no more . Our biggest export is war and weapons of it. Oh, and wait till the masses find out our weapons get sold or trafficked by our Allies (Ukraine, Israel) and sold to our enemies or mafia groups anyway. Half of the weapons dumps from the billion dollar military aid to Ukraine last year has “gone missing”. It’s probably in Putins hands already just like many of our weapons ended up in the Taliban’s hands

We are a very stupid country. Trump was right about that.
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It’s obvious the cards will fall and shit will hit the fan if we ever stop defense funding though. It’s obvious our economy’s health isn’t real. It’s mostly due to defense, Inc. in the same way oil is for Saudi Arabia and foreign aid and reparations are for the mostly retiree Israel.

Every first world economy is a facade hanging on a thread .

Wall Street will also tumble without the defense spending and “foreign military aid” . The domino effects are too potentially large that we have no choice but to stick with the status quo .

Don’t ever expect free college either. Someone needs to fight in US wars and recruitment is already record low with Gen Z so God help us as we know what that means..
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Anonymous wrote:It’s obvious the cards will fall and shit will hit the fan if we ever stop defense funding though. It’s obvious our economy’s health isn’t real. It’s mostly due to defense, Inc. in the same way oil is for Saudi Arabia and foreign aid and reparations are for the mostly retiree Israel.

Every first world economy is a facade hanging on a thread .

Wall Street will also tumble without the defense spending and “foreign military aid” . The domino effects are too potentially large that we have no choice but to stick with the status quo .

Don’t ever expect free college either. Someone needs to fight in US wars and recruitment is already record low with Gen Z so God help us as we know what that means..


Those wars were wars fought for Israel. Israel is incapable of defending itself. If the US cuts funding the world will be a safer place.
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Anonymous wrote:How about a one state solution? Where Palestenians are given freedoms and citizenship in Israel where they have economic opportunties and political freedoms to vote? Is this a crazy idea?

Why is that hard? America is not split between white america and black america. There isn't two countries in America. There is just America and all citizens given freedoms, white americans, black americans, hispanic americans, etc.

Am I missing something in my logic? Why cannot the Palestenians be granted Israeli citizenship and become citizens?


Because a Jewish state assumes a Jewish majority and a Jewish rule. That's why.


Why does there have to be a Jewish state at the expense of the Palestinian people. In what other circumstances do we allow ethno and religious states? We didn't allow America to become a "White" country. No one split South Africa into two.

If Jewish people want to live in Israel, fine, but you don't get to cleanse the place of everyone else who lives there, and you don't get to disenfranchise those people and treat them as second class citizens. It's not a sustainable solution and was never an appropriate response to the Holocaust. It just feeds into this idea of Jewish supremacy, and isn't any different than white supremacy and other such nonsense.


It is different, though. Sorry but Jews are special. Truly they’ve been persecuted throughout history and everyone kinda hates them. If they want to be left alone to in their own state, it’s the most reasonable basis for “supremacy” that ever existed.

I don’t buy that propaganda, Jews are no more special than anyone else.
And by the way, the Gypsies in Europe have been persecuted more


Name another group that’s been persecuted as a matter of government policy (not just random bigotry) as much?

Roma (wtf with “Gypsies”) are itinerant and don’t want a state, so it’s not a good analogy. If they did, however, maybe they’d have similar claim to necessary protection.

Plenty
The native Americans, black slaves in the US, the Russian rule has always been brutal to all ethnic minorities, plenty oppressed in China, South America has its own stories, Zulu empire was brutal

The list goes on


Russian “oppression” is not the same thing as mass killing targeting an ethnic group. Russia has deported certain groups and but not mass murdered them. Also Russia is awful to everyone includes Russians who were serfs/slaves. Same with China’s treatment - re-educating Uyghurs is awful but they aren’t slaughtering them en masse. Please be more specific about “South America.” What ethnic group was singled out for extermination by the Zulu empire? What are you even talking about. Yes, lots of governments are brutal and awful. No, no cohesive national group has been so consistently persecuted as the Jews.


Zionism was founded in order to save Jews from Russian pogroms. If the Russian pogroms weren't that bad then well whoops to your argument.


Reading comprehension fail. Jews are special. Get over it.


No. They aren't. You're no different than a skinhead screeching about white power. You sound stupid.


You sound historically ignorant and incapable of taking account of the context behind Israel’s existence.


There's no historical context that makes Jewish people superior to anyone else. Yeah they've been through shit. So have a lot of other people. They're still just people after all, no better than anyone else. It's this kind of thinking that's found yourselves becoming the very thing you once fought against.


I am not Jewish. The impetus behind Jews wanting a tiny country of self-governance for their own safety and security is not difficult for me to understand. You have to be the worst kind of black-and-white thinker to believe that in this scenario Israelis are acting “just like” American white supremacists.


You have to be drunk on propaganda and crazy with cognitive dissonance if you can't see that calling yourself a superior race entitled to your own ethno fiefdom cleansed of the indigenous population is exactly the same as white supremacists.


All religions think they are uniquely correct. Judaism’s notion of a chosen people is THE MOST benign manifestation of that phenomenon. No proselytizing. No domination. Jews have to hold themselves to a higher standard than others. It’s a chosen-ness that imposes burdens. If you are such a simpleton that you reduce everything to “Jews think they are a superior race,” then God speed to you. Navigating a world that’s more complex than your mind can handle must be tough.


There is nothing BENIGN about thinking you are superior to others. Nothing.


What reaction do you get from Muslims when you scream that at them?

Oh wait, you don’t have a problem with Islam or any other religion? You know, you can’t even *enter* Mecca, period, if you are not Muslim?

You’re ignorant and picking on Israel just works for you for reasons that you should really examine closely.


I do have a problem with that as well. But we're talking about Palestine, the most secular Arab nation there is, and not Saudi Arabia. If I have problem with Saudi doing that should I not also have a problem with Israel doing it?


Plenty of Israelis are secular too, but here you are droning on about Jews thinking they are the chosen people! Gaza is probably more religious than Israel and should have been building more schools instead of the ridiculous density of mosques in that place. You have given probably zero percent of your life to caring about what far more horrible countries than Israel are doing.


Gaza had 12 universities and a 97% literacy rate.


They’re still going to school now in the refugee tent camps. The teachers are teaching outside to keep the kids occupied and on a schedule .

The kids who come out of this are probably already smarter than the Jewish kids in Israel and definitely the US.

Starvation and struggle gives you a certain tenacity . Both Israel and Hamas will find themselves on the same side trying to maintain control as they both will fear these kids. They won’t forget this war.
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Anonymous wrote:How about a one state solution? Where Palestenians are given freedoms and citizenship in Israel where they have economic opportunties and political freedoms to vote? Is this a crazy idea?

Why is that hard? America is not split between white america and black america. There isn't two countries in America. There is just America and all citizens given freedoms, white americans, black americans, hispanic americans, etc.

Am I missing something in my logic? Why cannot the Palestenians be granted Israeli citizenship and become citizens?


Because a Jewish state assumes a Jewish majority and a Jewish rule. That's why.


Why does there have to be a Jewish state at the expense of the Palestinian people. In what other circumstances do we allow ethno and religious states? We didn't allow America to become a "White" country. No one split South Africa into two.

If Jewish people want to live in Israel, fine, but you don't get to cleanse the place of everyone else who lives there, and you don't get to disenfranchise those people and treat them as second class citizens. It's not a sustainable solution and was never an appropriate response to the Holocaust. It just feeds into this idea of Jewish supremacy, and isn't any different than white supremacy and other such nonsense.


It is different, though. Sorry but Jews are special. Truly they’ve been persecuted throughout history and everyone kinda hates them. If they want to be left alone to in their own state, it’s the most reasonable basis for “supremacy” that ever existed.

I don’t buy that propaganda, Jews are no more special than anyone else.
And by the way, the Gypsies in Europe have been persecuted more


Name another group that’s been persecuted as a matter of government policy (not just random bigotry) as much?

Roma (wtf with “Gypsies”) are itinerant and don’t want a state, so it’s not a good analogy. If they did, however, maybe they’d have similar claim to necessary protection.

Plenty
The native Americans, black slaves in the US, the Russian rule has always been brutal to all ethnic minorities, plenty oppressed in China, South America has its own stories, Zulu empire was brutal

The list goes on


Russian “oppression” is not the same thing as mass killing targeting an ethnic group. Russia has deported certain groups and but not mass murdered them. Also Russia is awful to everyone includes Russians who were serfs/slaves. Same with China’s treatment - re-educating Uyghurs is awful but they aren’t slaughtering them en masse. Please be more specific about “South America.” What ethnic group was singled out for extermination by the Zulu empire? What are you even talking about. Yes, lots of governments are brutal and awful. No, no cohesive national group has been so consistently persecuted as the Jews.


Zionism was founded in order to save Jews from Russian pogroms. If the Russian pogroms weren't that bad then well whoops to your argument.


Reading comprehension fail. Jews are special. Get over it.


No. They aren't. You're no different than a skinhead screeching about white power. You sound stupid.


You sound historically ignorant and incapable of taking account of the context behind Israel’s existence.


There's no historical context that makes Jewish people superior to anyone else. Yeah they've been through shit. So have a lot of other people. They're still just people after all, no better than anyone else. It's this kind of thinking that's found yourselves becoming the very thing you once fought against.


I am not Jewish. The impetus behind Jews wanting a tiny country of self-governance for their own safety and security is not difficult for me to understand. You have to be the worst kind of black-and-white thinker to believe that in this scenario Israelis are acting “just like” American white supremacists.


You have to be drunk on propaganda and crazy with cognitive dissonance if you can't see that calling yourself a superior race entitled to your own ethno fiefdom cleansed of the indigenous population is exactly the same as white supremacists.


All religions think they are uniquely correct. Judaism’s notion of a chosen people is THE MOST benign manifestation of that phenomenon. No proselytizing. No domination. Jews have to hold themselves to a higher standard than others. It’s a chosen-ness that imposes burdens. If you are such a simpleton that you reduce everything to “Jews think they are a superior race,” then God speed to you. Navigating a world that’s more complex than your mind can handle must be tough.


There is nothing BENIGN about thinking you are superior to others. Nothing.


What reaction do you get from Muslims when you scream that at them?

Oh wait, you don’t have a problem with Islam or any other religion? You know, you can’t even *enter* Mecca, period, if you are not Muslim?

You’re ignorant and picking on Israel just works for you for reasons that you should really examine closely.


I do have a problem with that as well. But we're talking about Palestine, the most secular Arab nation there is, and not Saudi Arabia. If I have problem with Saudi doing that should I not also have a problem with Israel doing it?


Plenty of Israelis are secular too, but here you are droning on about Jews thinking they are the chosen people! Gaza is probably more religious than Israel and should have been building more schools instead of the ridiculous density of mosques in that place. You have given probably zero percent of your life to caring about what far more horrible countries than Israel are doing.


Gaza had 12 universities and a 97% literacy rate.


They’re still going to school now in the refugee tent camps. The teachers are teaching outside to keep the kids occupied and on a schedule .

The kids who come out of this are probably already smarter than the Jewish kids in Israel and definitely the US.

Starvation and struggle gives you a certain tenacity . Both Israel and Hamas will find themselves on the same side trying to maintain control as they both will fear these kids. They won’t forget this war.


People don't think of this but Gazans actually have a huge focus on education as this is one of the only avenues available to them.
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Anonymous wrote:It’s obvious the cards will fall and shit will hit the fan if we ever stop defense funding though. It’s obvious our economy’s health isn’t real. It’s mostly due to defense, Inc. in the same way oil is for Saudi Arabia and foreign aid and reparations are for the mostly retiree Israel.

Every first world economy is a facade hanging on a thread .

Wall Street will also tumble without the defense spending and “foreign military aid” . The domino effects are too potentially large that we have no choice but to stick with the status quo .

Don’t ever expect free college either. Someone needs to fight in US wars and recruitment is already record low with Gen Z so God help us as we know what that means..


Those wars were wars fought for Israel. Israel is incapable of defending itself. If the US cuts funding the world will be a safer place.


It’s not just Israel. Putin and Ukraine have nothing to do with Israel.

It’s the entire funding apparatus that we have . Trump is the enemy of the powers that be because he supports isolation and dared to wonder why the Us is paying more for NATO and war in general than the Euro nations who actually benefit more from it . A very valid question but blasphemous to the Washington establishment and media.

Cable news networks (NBC, CNN) in particular are sponsored by Lockheed Martin and other defense companies . President Eisenhower warned about the military industrial media complex and complex in general 60 years ago. Kennedy and bro weren’t with war so they were dealt with, and the next guy was shoehorned in .

Where was Bush Sr. In Dallas on the day of Kennedys assasination? Was he telling his boss mission accomplished?
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Anonymous wrote:It’s obvious the cards will fall and shit will hit the fan if we ever stop defense funding though. It’s obvious our economy’s health isn’t real. It’s mostly due to defense, Inc. in the same way oil is for Saudi Arabia and foreign aid and reparations are for the mostly retiree Israel.

Every first world economy is a facade hanging on a thread .

Wall Street will also tumble without the defense spending and “foreign military aid” . The domino effects are too potentially large that we have no choice but to stick with the status quo .

Don’t ever expect free college either. Someone needs to fight in US wars and recruitment is already record low with Gen Z so God help us as we know what that means..


Those wars were wars fought for Israel. Israel is incapable of defending itself. If the US cuts funding the world will be a safer place.


The Us would rather let every bridge and interstate in the US crumble than stop war, inc.

Unfortunately , other countries have also developed military complexes of their own following our lead (China, Iran,) and we can’t afford to have Russia, China, and Iran be the worlds police . We will have to fall like Rome or something in order to stop because we literally can’t. We print too much money and overproduce only one commodity (weapons of war) so when there are no conflicts, we have to create them because somebody needs to use these weapons and some countries have to pay (Saudis) and some do not (Israel).

This apparently makes us the strongest country in the world even though most of our weapons end up stolen and sold into enemies hands.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s obvious the cards will fall and shit will hit the fan if we ever stop defense funding though. It’s obvious our economy’s health isn’t real. It’s mostly due to defense, Inc. in the same way oil is for Saudi Arabia and foreign aid and reparations are for the mostly retiree Israel.

Every first world economy is a facade hanging on a thread .

Wall Street will also tumble without the defense spending and “foreign military aid” . The domino effects are too potentially large that we have no choice but to stick with the status quo .

Don’t ever expect free college either. Someone needs to fight in US wars and recruitment is already record low with Gen Z so God help us as we know what that means..


Those wars were wars fought for Israel. Israel is incapable of defending itself. If the US cuts funding the world will be a safer place.


The Us would rather let every bridge and interstate in the US crumble than stop war, inc.

Unfortunately , other countries have also developed military complexes of their own following our lead (China, Iran,) and we can’t afford to have Russia, China, and Iran be the worlds police . We will have to fall like Rome or something in order to stop because we literally can’t. We print too much money and overproduce only one commodity (weapons of war) so when there are no conflicts, we have to create them because somebody needs to use these weapons and some countries have to pay (Saudis) and some do not (Israel).

This apparently makes us the strongest country in the world even though most of our weapons end up stolen and sold into enemies hands.


The US is not the strongest country. We are subservient to Israel. Therefore the US will continue to make the Middle East safe for Israel by bombing and bribing the region. This is the only reason we use military power.
Anonymous
Jews are indigenous to the land of Israel, were exiled by the Babylonians and Romans before Islam was invented, and allow access for Muslim worship to the Al Aqsa mosque which was built on the ruins of the Jewish temple. Israel is 20% Arab citizens and does not ethnically cleanse. Hamas diverted billions in aid from Gazan civilians to building extremely sophisticated tunnels for itself and its civilian hostages while it planned to start this war. Hamas slogan rhymes in Arabic, from the river to the sea, palestine will be arab, which is a call to ethnically cleanse Jews. Hamas shoots at the Rafah aid crossing and also vows to repeat 10/7 over and over.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Jews are indigenous to the land of Israel, were exiled by the Babylonians and Romans before Islam was invented, and allow access for Muslim worship to the Al Aqsa mosque which was built on the ruins of the Jewish temple. Israel is 20% Arab citizens and does not ethnically cleanse. Hamas diverted billions in aid from Gazan civilians to building extremely sophisticated tunnels for itself and its civilian hostages while it planned to start this war. Hamas slogan rhymes in Arabic, from the river to the sea, palestine will be arab, which is a call to ethnically cleanse Jews. Hamas shoots at the Rafah aid crossing and also vows to repeat 10/7 over and over.


There is nothing in your statement that is true.
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