NFL Kicker Harrison Butker’s unhinged commencement speech

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Anonymous wrote:He's just speaking his truth. Irrelevant to nonCatholics.


This^. I don't agree with him but that's what his religion teaches, women are to be protected and provided for so they can birth and raise next generation of Catholics. His mom was a full time academic and a part time mom academic while his wife is a 24/7 mom so he saw both sides.
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Anonymous wrote:What the haters here are ignoring.... or are ignorant about.... is that Butker also told men that they need to be present and active in the lives of their wives and children.


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I posted that whole section earlier, but naturally it was ignored. Crickets, as expected.


Oh cool, so he said a wholesome thing amongst the diatribe of hateful bullsht, he is to be praised.
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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]What the haters here are ignoring.... or are ignorant about.... is that Butker also told men that they need to be present and active in the lives of their wives and children. [/quote]

Yeah, and that’s great and it’s true.

It doesn’t excuse the other parts alluding to “deviance” (gender or sexual orientation), [b]how women should be subservient or generally how Covid masks are bad[/b]. He’s a zealot jock. Next![/quote]

Post his exact words. We’ll wait.
DP[/quote]

Yeah you will wait.
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Butker bemoaned an erosion of traditional Catholic values in daily life, claiming that things like “abortion, IVF, surrogacy, euthanasia as well as a growing support for degenerate cultural values and media” come from “the pervasiveness of disorder.”

He criticized Biden for proclaiming his Catholic faith while being “delusional enough to make the sign of the cross during a pro-abortion rally,” accusing the president of making it appear “that you can be both Catholic and pro-choice.”

Butker told the women in the class that they’d been told “diabolical lies” about pursuing careers, and that his and his family’s success is a result of his wife’s focus on being a wife and mother, claiming that “her life truly started when she began living her vocation as a wife and as a mother.”

He accused world leaders of “pushing dangerous gender ideologies onto the youth of America,” and praised the students at Benedictine for embracing their religion with pride, but “not the deadly sin sort of pride that has an entire month dedicated to it.”
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Yeah my 85 year old mother worked almost her entire adult life except for about 6 years when we were little. She didn't want to stay home and she wanted to contribute to the household income. When I stayed at home for a few years while my son was little, she implored me not to. She really didn't want to see her daughter languishing away as a homemaker. The majority of Catholic mom's I've known my entire life have worked at least part time. The only exception being the ONE mom who has 11 kids.

Butler is not talking about typical Catholicism these days.
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The NFL was quicker to condemn Butker for being a Christian than it was to condemn Ray Rice for caving in his fiancee’s head on camera and and then dragging her lifeless body through the hall.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What the haters here are ignoring.... or are ignorant about.... is that Butker also told men that they need to be present and active in the lives of their wives and children.


+1
I posted that whole section earlier, but naturally it was ignored. Crickets, as expected.

Why do men need to be told to be fathers and present in their kids lives? Are they too dumb to realize that?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What the haters here are ignoring.... or are ignorant about.... is that Butker also told men that they need to be present and active in the lives of their wives and children.


+1
I posted that whole section earlier, but naturally it was ignored. Crickets, as expected.

Why do men need to be told to be fathers and present in their kids lives? Are they too dumb to realize that?


+1. You need a gold medal for doing something as basic and obvious as being a dad to the kid you decided to father? Keep your sperm to yourself if you don't even know that if you bring a kid into the world, you have to raise it.
Anonymous
There are two types of people in this world that I hate. People who are intolerant of other peoples cultures, and the Catholics.
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$50 says Butker is in the closet
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Anonymous wrote:$50 says Butker is in the closet


He’s probably an Andrew Tate podcast listener.
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Mainstream Catholics: "uh, dude..."
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Anonymous wrote:$50 says Butker is in the closet


There is a rumor going around about his college years and his involvement with a male cheerleader.

When someone is this unhinged, they’re usually compensating for something.

No one in a happy relationship would go out there and say this stuff.
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Harrison Butker went to a Catholic college and delivered a speech to Catholic graduates affirming Catholic doctrine. He was literally moved to tears when describing how much his wife means to him. He called out and attacked the lies that millions of young women have been told, lies which leave many of them lonely and miserable rather than fulfilled and happy.

Professional sports is full of criminals, domestic abusers, and men with a half-dozen children they don't raise. For the press to smear a brave, devout family man as an antisemitic, sexist pig is disgusting.

I stand with Harrison Butker.

https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1790888187474407804


What lies have women been told? Why aren’t they lies for men?


Oh, you know, the lie that if they want to eat avocado toast, keep their money and not have kids, they are basically soulless sluts according to this kicker. Ha ha. I feel bad Catholics are wound up so tight. They’re beliefs are a myth anyway, but they’re so vigilant about nonsense.


He doesn’t speak for Catholics. He represents a right wing faction of Catholics who will eventually need to offshoot.


Or maybe he does. Maybe you’re out of touch and this kicker is just representing modern Catholicism. A lot of people are returning to some imagined base, “fundamentalist” Catholicism in recent years. It’s most likely a response to, like, their neighbors’ kid coming out as non-binary or some dumb sht and it freaks them out and they want to return to simpler times. Like I said earlier, there is also a lot of push back to the Pope in American Catholic circles, too. He’s viewed as too liberal.

https://apnews.com/article/catholic-church-shift-orthodoxy-tradition-7638fa2013a593f8cb07483ffc8ed487




What you are missing is that I’m not a progressive, I’m conservative, but more solidly in the middle. He is not a conservative, he is an alt-right Christian nationalist.

I hope the upcoming conservative priests don’t shy away from protecting Humana Vitea, all if it not just a cherry picked few.

He is a heretic, he speaks against long held Catholic beliefs. Pope John Paul, not just Francis.

For us very educated Catholics this is not new. These alternate Catholics did not want divorced people in the church receiving communion in the 70’s and 80’s. Are these new priests trying to forbid divorced people from attending church and being hod parents? Are they lecturing from the pulpit on the evils of Viagra?

Yawn… he’s a narcissist trying to use shock to make a name for himself. He’s committed a deadly sins.

He is a heretic which is a mortal sin and should be forbidden communion until he has made a full hearted contrition.

Open your eyes.

He seems to be pretty mainstream for American Catholics. Or maybe you just never wanted to see the misogyny in your church.


No that’s not mainstream it’s just that shock and fear sells.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What the haters here are ignoring.... or are ignorant about.... is that Butker also told men that they need to be present and active in the lives of their wives and children.


+1
I posted that whole section earlier, but naturally it was ignored. Crickets, as expected.


No crickets here you just don’t like what was said.
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