“They won’t go to kindergarten in diapers!”…well, actually, they are.

[Anonymous]

Why aren't teachers believed????? This is starting to become an issue in MCPS and the K teachers have been complaining enough that the union has become involved. This is beyond 504 and special needs. These are kids (that could be special needs and are not identified among others that are not special needs) that are coming in diapers with no notification to the school whatsoever.

Anonymous wrote:I’m deeply concerned that the kindergarten teacher who started this thread does not understand that the three children wearing diapers that she’s talking about do, in fact, have special needs of some kind. If they are getting 504 plans, they have medical or mental health diagnoses of some kind. It’s troubling that the teacher doesn’t understand that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m deeply concerned that the kindergarten teacher who started this thread does not understand that the three children wearing diapers that she’s talking about do, in fact, have special needs of some kind. If they are getting 504 plans, they have medical or mental health diagnoses of some kind. It’s troubling that the teacher doesn’t understand that.

Why do you assume they have special needs? Some parents just don’t want to be bothered. You’ll see it more and more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why aren't teachers believed????? This is starting to become an issue in MCPS and the K teachers have been complaining enough that the union has become involved. This is beyond 504 and special needs. These are kids (that could be special needs and are not identified among others that are not special needs) that are coming in diapers with no notification to the school whatsoever.

Anonymous wrote:I’m deeply concerned that the kindergarten teacher who started this thread does not understand that the three children wearing diapers that she’s talking about do, in fact, have special needs of some kind. If they are getting 504 plans, they have medical or mental health diagnoses of some kind. It’s troubling that the teacher doesn’t understand that.

It’s May and the school already knows and has written accommodation plans, so clearly these kids do have disabilities and aren’t coming with “no notice”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m deeply concerned that the kindergarten teacher who started this thread does not understand that the three children wearing diapers that she’s talking about do, in fact, have special needs of some kind. If they are getting 504 plans, they have medical or mental health diagnoses of some kind. It’s troubling that the teacher doesn’t understand that.

Why do you assume they have special needs? Some parents just don’t want to be bothered. You’ll see it more and more.

You need documentation of a disability to get a 504 plan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Omg, I am so sorry. I hope they call the parents every time they need to be changed. Hopefully this is one of those time peer pressure works... and quickly.

+1. Such utter nonsense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why aren't teachers believed????? This is starting to become an issue in MCPS and the K teachers have been complaining enough that the union has become involved. This is beyond 504 and special needs. These are kids (that could be special needs and are not identified among others that are not special needs) that are coming in diapers with no notification to the school whatsoever.

Anonymous wrote:I’m deeply concerned that the kindergarten teacher who started this thread does not understand that the three children wearing diapers that she’s talking about do, in fact, have special needs of some kind. If they are getting 504 plans, they have medical or mental health diagnoses of some kind. It’s troubling that the teacher doesn’t understand that.

It’s May and the school already knows and has written accommodation plans, so clearly these kids do have disabilities and aren’t coming with “no notice”.

Well they better come with an aide as well because no teacher should be changing a diaper.

[Anonymous]

My siblings and I were raised in traditional cloth diapers before the advent of disposable ones. All potty-trained before age 2, according to my mom.

WTF is the issue here?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My siblings and I were raised in traditional cloth diapers before the advent of disposable ones. All potty-trained before age 2, according to my mom.

WTF is the issue here?

In my experience as a special Ed teacher, constipation issues seem to be common in kids with autism. There are also other factors that may make toilet training hard for kids with ASD (loud flushing, reluctance to use public bathrooms). Many more students with autism are mainstreamed now because they have average to above average intelligence and can be successful in the mainstream classroom. The schools need more staff to make this all doable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My siblings and I were raised in traditional cloth diapers before the advent of disposable ones. All potty-trained before age 2, according to my mom.

WTF is the issue here?

In my experience as a special Ed teacher, constipation issues seem to be common in kids with autism. There are also other factors that may make toilet training hard for kids with ASD (loud flushing, reluctance to use public bathrooms). Many more students with autism are mainstreamed now because they have average to above average intelligence and can be successful in the mainstream classroom. The schools need more staff to make this all doable.

Also, meant to add, maybe these children have not yet been formally diagnosed. If the parents have a 504, then a medical provider was willing to write a note with a medical reason. I would think that a parent who is consulting with a medical provider isn’t just a lazy parent. Some children train very easily, even with lazy parents. Be grateful if your child trained in developmentally appropriate time frame with typical training strategies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m deeply concerned that the kindergarten teacher who started this thread does not understand that the three children wearing diapers that she’s talking about do, in fact, have special needs of some kind. If they are getting 504 plans, they have medical or mental health diagnoses of some kind. It’s troubling that the teacher doesn’t understand that.

Why do you assume they have special needs? Some parents just don’t want to be bothered. You’ll see it more and more.

You need documentation of a disability to get a 504 plan.

You need to post things that you actually know about. Your statement is blatantly wrong. My kid can get a 504 for having a broken leg. That’s is not a disability and no documentation needs to be provided.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some people on this thread have never had a kid with severe, chronic constipation. The judgment and cruelty is staggering, but not surprising.

Don’t be sure about that. Mine did. Severe and chronic constipation but I worked with a doctor to have that under control before kindergarten. My kid did not go to school in diapers.

What she did have was a note from the doctor to go to the bathroom anytime she felt the need, which the teachers and school worked with her on. It was not a 504. It was just understanding that some kindergartners needed a little extra help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My siblings and I were raised in traditional cloth diapers before the advent of disposable ones. All potty-trained before age 2, according to my mom.

WTF is the issue here?

I think cloth diapers make it easier to train, as does having a one-on-one caregiver (which I assume you guys had if you were in cloth diapers — most group care settings don’t want them for obvious reasons), but there’s also probably a genetic component. My sister and I were also in cloth diapers with a stay at home mom and trained without fuss before 2; my kids were in a mix of cloth and disposables and are in daycare and trained easily enough before 2.5 and spontaneously night trained themselves. I don’t really think it’s anything I did; I think that we just have a natural genetic predisposition to be aware of our bodies and pelvic floor control at a young age. The kids in this thread probably were in group care (makes training harder because it’s less consistent), disposable diapers (makes treating harder because kids can’t tell when they’re wet), and/or have genetic or environmental situations that make it harder for them to know when they need to go. Assuming they’re capable of changing their own pull-ups/diapers, it shouldn’t effect their teachers at all.

[Anonymous]

I have one kid with a motor disability and another with chronic constipation. I am certainly empathetic to parents but it is so ridiculous that this trend is increasing - kids with “special needs” and medical problems have always existed, and there are more treatment options, awareness, and support than ever before. It doesn’t explain why these problems are getting worse - the most likely explanation has to be parenting and changing social norms

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m deeply concerned that the kindergarten teacher who started this thread does not understand that the three children wearing diapers that she’s talking about do, in fact, have special needs of some kind. If they are getting 504 plans, they have medical or mental health diagnoses of some kind. It’s troubling that the teacher doesn’t understand that.

Why do you assume they have special needs? Some parents just don’t want to be bothered. You’ll see it more and more.

You need documentation of a disability to get a 504 plan.

You need to post things that you actually know about. Your statement is blatantly wrong. My kid can get a 504 for having a broken leg. That’s is not a disability and no documentation needs to be provided.

But the do need a diagnosis!! In your case, the diagnosis is a broken leg.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My siblings and I were raised in traditional cloth diapers before the advent of disposable ones. All potty-trained before age 2, according to my mom.

WTF is the issue here?

In my experience as a special Ed teacher, constipation issues seem to be common in kids with autism. There are also other factors that may make toilet training hard for kids with ASD (loud flushing, reluctance to use public bathrooms). Many more students with autism are mainstreamed now because they have average to above average intelligence and can be successful in the mainstream classroom. The schools need more staff to make this all doable.

No they don’t. Autism is not actually a reason not to work to potty train by five.