“They won’t go to kindergarten in diapers!”…well, actually, they are.

[Anonymous]

The kids probably do have anxiety. I feel for their parents. People really need to have empathy instead of disdain.

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Anonymous wrote:The kids probably do have anxiety. I feel for their parents. People really need to have empathy instead of disdain.

The parents probably gave them the anxiety by being terrible parents. So sorry OP. Just 10 years ago you couldn’t go to half day 3’s class in diapers.

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Who is expected to change them?

[Anonymous]

This is the nonsense that make teachers quit.

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Anonymous wrote:As a teacher, I get it…you shouldn’t have to deal with that (literal) crap. And if it is just that the parents were too lazy to potty train, then that’s unacceptable.

However, I am also the parent of a child with an intellectual disability who has gastrointestinal issues, and it is possible that he won’t be potty trained by the time he starts kindergarten. I hope his teachers will be accommodating. The kids involved may well have special needs that have not yet been diagnosed. I’d reserve judgement until you meet the families.

Sorry, but in this instance kids who cannot use a bathroom independently should not be mainstreamed. Teachers have overflowing classrooms and don’t have time to change diapers.

Or redshirt. There are daycare ratios for a reason. You cannot expect a teacher of 28 kids to be managing diapers. The 504 has clearly jumped the shark.

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Anonymous wrote:The kids probably do have anxiety. I feel for their parents. People really need to have empathy instead of disdain.

Then they are not ready for a large classroom with one teacher.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The kids probably do have anxiety. I feel for their parents. People really need to have empathy instead of disdain.

The parents probably gave them the anxiety by being terrible parents. So sorry OP. Just 10 years ago you couldn’t go to half day 3’s class in diapers.

This is it, 100%.

I have disdain for terrible parents. We all should - or this nonsense gets worse.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The kids probably do have anxiety. I feel for their parents. People really need to have empathy instead of disdain.

The parents probably gave them the anxiety by being terrible parents. So sorry OP. Just 10 years ago you couldn’t go to half day 3’s class in diapers.

This is it, 100%.

I have disdain for terrible parents. We all should - or this nonsense gets worse.

I do too. It’s the same parents with no behavior control, and iPad kids in restaurants with no headphones. You suck and you are ruining society for everyone!

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like a very high number for one school. Where do you live?
My first thought was that there are special needs even if you wrote otherwise. There are several months until school starts.
Also, accidents are different from not potty trained. They may wear them and it will no concern teachers much. Talking about anxiety, check yours.

Not such a high number. I work in mcps at a large Elementary school in a mostly affluent area with some lower income mixed in. We have two kids in kindergarten not potty trained this year

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like a very high number for one school. Where do you live?
My first thought was that there are special needs even if you wrote otherwise. There are several months until school starts.
Also, accidents are different from not potty trained. They may wear them and it will no concern teachers much. Talking about anxiety, check yours.

I am so sorry you have to deal with this OP. But I think the last bit here is key, especially since you mentioned constipation. A friend’s child has severe chronic constipation, which leads to very occasional accidents and less occasional soiling. It isn’t that he isn’t potty trained; it’s a real medical issue.

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Anonymous wrote:I would hope the parents are making it top priority to get this done before the first day of school?

Doesn’t sound like it. They are a few months away from kindergarten and their kids aren’t potty trained.

[Anonymous]

We had two last year and one this year. We’ve never had any before these two years. This is one of the many things we’ve gotten from kids being at home with their parents. That and screen addictions. And not ever hearing the word “no” before.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems like a very high number for one school. Where do you live?
My first thought was that there are special needs even if you wrote otherwise. There are several months until school starts.
Also, accidents are different from not potty trained. They may wear them and it will no concern teachers much. Talking about anxiety, check yours.

I am so sorry you have to deal with this OP. But I think the last bit here is key, especially since you mentioned constipation. A friend’s child has severe chronic constipation, which leads to very occasional accidents and less occasional soiling. It isn’t that he isn’t potty trained; it’s a real medical issue.

My older kid had this issue around 6 after potty training at 3, and we spent WAY too long thinking it was a psychological issue or not eating enough fiber. Nope. He needed a heavy course of laxatives and stool softeners to get back to normal, and that solved it. He occasionally goes back on them when his system gets thrown off, especially after viruses, but we can nip it in the bud within days now with the meds.

We definitely leaned into this kind of "it's a parenting issue" approach seen in this thread and missed the underlying cause because we didn't know what the symptoms meant, and that was bad for our kid. Even our pediatrician just said "make sure he eats lots of fiber" until I learned about this pattern on DCUM, suggested it might be constipation, and got the meds. Yeah, that is how I figured it out.

He wasn't going in diapers to school, or involving teachers in any way, but I was sending him with a plastic bag with clean underwear at the bottom of his backpack and worrying a LOT. So I'd wait a sec before blaming the parents. Some people are too well adjusted to read about constipation on DCUM.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a teacher, I get it…you shouldn’t have to deal with that (literal) crap. And if it is just that the parents were too lazy to potty train, then that’s unacceptable.

However, I am also the parent of a child with an intellectual disability who has gastrointestinal issues, and it is possible that he won’t be potty trained by the time he starts kindergarten. I hope his teachers will be accommodating. The kids involved may well have special needs that have not yet been diagnosed. I’d reserve judgement until you meet the families.

Sorry, but in this instance kids who cannot use a bathroom independently should not be mainstreamed. Teachers have overflowing classrooms and don’t have time to change diapers.

So a child with, say, a physical disability that prevents them from ever using a bathroom independently shouldn't be allowed in a gen ed classroom? That is against the law, so it's a good thing you aren't in charge. Schools can provide aides if necessary.

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Anonymous wrote:We had two last year and one this year. We’ve never had any before these two years. This is one of the many things we’ve gotten from kids being at home with their parents. That and screen addictions. And not ever hearing the word “no” before.

You mean the parents that were concurrently working and keeping their kid busy because daycares/ schools were closed but parents were still expected to
Log into work?

OP is exaggerating. Kids have always had to bring extra clothes into school for a reason. And like it or not, the current cohort of kids in school have had unusual Experiences that differ depending on their geography and a host of SES factors. Much like teachers have changed for many of the same reasons.