Why so much WUSTL/WashU hate on DCUM?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look, plain and simple, no NE/Ivy person is ever going to say that any US school is better than an Ivy. They just aren’t. And whatever kind words they say to your face, they’re sneering inside. That’s why it’s best to avoid these people. They have misplaced contempt.

Trump. Zuckerberg. Musk. Altman. All Ivy. All contemptible. Successful? Yes. Rich? Yes. Smart? Yes. Decent human beings? You gotta be kidding. Of course, other schools have their crazies, but the Ivies mint these crazies in droves.

You have bizarre misconceptions about people from the NE. Where are you from?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The haters always have a NE bias. So, start by considering the source.

Have you ever asked a NYC person what they think about the Midwest? They speak about it pejoratively as “flyover” country. In other words, there’s no reason to go there. Period. That means Michigan, Northwestern, Chicago, WSTL, Vanderbilt, and others will never get the love that NE schools get. It’s distaste by definition.

It’s also distaste by culture. The NE prides itself in Type-A competitiveness, big city culture, name-brand elites, and prestigious Wall Street and consulting firms. The Midwest offers something else, but whatever it is, it’s not good-enough for NE hard chargers. The Midwest and its colleges might have smart kids, but they’re not as cutthroat as NE students, and for that, the NE marks them as “less than.”

No, Michigan, Chicago, and Northwestern are very well respected in the NE.

Nice try, but they’re still seen as Ivy rejects.

No. Healthy, happy, knowledgeable people don’t think that way.

I don’t think Michigan is a back up school for Ivy rejects. Most Michigan students don’t give the Ivies a second thought. Chicago and Northwestern are different stories.

Folks, "back up school" is not the correct term. "Fallback" school is the correct term.
Ivy or not, any college education should teach you that properly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:BeautifulBut St. Louis still has more to offer as a town than the towns where Middlebury, Vassar, Hamilton, Dartmouth, Grinnell, Purdue, etc. are in.

More to offer for the kid who likes urban or suburban environments. Far less to offer for the kid who like mountains, lakes, forests, and being in the great outdoors.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Beautiful campus, one of best dorms & food & professors (Source: Niche), which means a quality lifestyle for undergrad

Consistently ranked in the Top 15 National Universities and Top 20 on USNEWS until this year due to the ranking methodology changes, and good weather.

Other than the lack of laymen's prestige and the location of St. Louis (which is invalid because it's actually in Clayton), why is it looked down upon on DCUM? There seems to be a lot of misinformation being spread, like a 40% acceptance rate ED1/ED2 which is comically fake and untrue.

My Senior DC with high stats from a competitive high school got rejected ED2 but got into UVA, VT, Purdue. Kids from Midwest & West Coast are dying to get into schools like UofChicago, Northwestern, Rice, Washu, ETC, but East coast seems to dislike WashU specfically.

It's a great school academically, with a bright, collaborative student body. My DS's friend is very happy with the school. The part of town the school is in is pretty boring. But St. Louis still has more to offer as a town than the towns where Middlebury, Vassar, Hamilton, Dartmouth, Grinnell, Purdue, etc. are in.

Thats not particularly unique.

[Anonymous]

According to the NYT based on Opportunity Insights data:

Top 25 Colleges by Median Family Income of Students (Class of 2013, 2015 \$)

1. **Washington University in St. Louis** – \$272,000
2. **Colgate University** – \$270,200
3. **Washington & Lee University** – \$261,000
4. **Middlebury College** – \$244,300
5. **Colby College** – \$236,000
6. **Tufts University** – \$224,800
7. **Davidson College** – \$213,900
8. **Kenyon College** – \$213,500
9. **Brown University** – \$204,200
10. **Bucknell University** – \$204,200
11. **Vanderbilt University** – \$204,500
12. **Claremont McKenna College** – \$201,300
13. **Dartmouth College** – \$200,400
14. **University of Pennsylvania** – \$195,500
15. **Boston College** – \$194,100
16. **Yale University** – \$192,600
17. **Duke University** – \$186,700
18. **Princeton University** – \$186,100
19. **Johns Hopkins University** – \$177,300
20. **Northwestern University** – \$171,200
21. **Stanford University** – \$167,500
22. **Harvard University** – \$168,000–168,800
23. **USC (University of Southern California)** – \$161,400
24. **University of Virginia** – \$155,500
25. **Carnegie Mellon University** – \$154,700

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:According to the NYT based on Opportunity Insights data:

Top 25 Colleges by Median Family Income of Students (Class of 2013, 2015 \$)

1. **Washington University in St. Louis** – \$272,000
2. **Colgate University** – \$270,200
3. **Washington & Lee University** – \$261,000
4. **Middlebury College** – \$244,300
5. **Colby College** – \$236,000
6. **Tufts University** – \$224,800
7. **Davidson College** – \$213,900
8. **Kenyon College** – \$213,500
9. **Brown University** – \$204,200
10. **Bucknell University** – \$204,200
11. **Vanderbilt University** – \$204,500
12. **Claremont McKenna College** – \$201,300
13. **Dartmouth College** – \$200,400
14. **University of Pennsylvania** – \$195,500
15. **Boston College** – \$194,100
16. **Yale University** – \$192,600
17. **Duke University** – \$186,700
18. **Princeton University** – \$186,100
19. **Johns Hopkins University** – \$177,300
20. **Northwestern University** – \$171,200
21. **Stanford University** – \$167,500
22. **Harvard University** – \$168,000–168,800
23. **USC (University of Southern California)** – \$161,400
24. **University of Virginia** – \$155,500
25. **Carnegie Mellon University** – \$154,700

The only ivy not on the list is Cornell. Proud to be a Cornellian!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:According to the NYT based on Opportunity Insights data:

Top 25 Colleges by Median Family Income of Students (Class of 2013, 2015 \$)

1. **Washington University in St. Louis** – \$272,000
2. **Colgate University** – \$270,200
3. **Washington & Lee University** – \$261,000
4. **Middlebury College** – \$244,300
5. **Colby College** – \$236,000
6. **Tufts University** – \$224,800
7. **Davidson College** – \$213,900
8. **Kenyon College** – \$213,500
9. **Brown University** – \$204,200
10. **Bucknell University** – \$204,200
11. **Vanderbilt University** – \$204,500
12. **Claremont McKenna College** – \$201,300
13. **Dartmouth College** – \$200,400
14. **University of Pennsylvania** – \$195,500
15. **Boston College** – \$194,100
16. **Yale University** – \$192,600
17. **Duke University** – \$186,700
18. **Princeton University** – \$186,100
19. **Johns Hopkins University** – \$177,300
20. **Northwestern University** – \$171,200
21. **Stanford University** – \$167,500
22. **Harvard University** – \$168,000–168,800
23. **USC (University of Southern California)** – \$161,400
24. **University of Virginia** – \$155,500
25. **Carnegie Mellon University** – \$154,700

Would like to see this updated as it’s been 10 years. As far as I know, WashU’s profile has changed a bit since then

[Anonymous]

Surprisingly Colorado is not on this list. What happened to the alleged rich spoiled brats at Colorado? Most of ivies, top 25, and top lacs are on the list, saving Cornell.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:According to the NYT based on Opportunity Insights data:

Top 25 Colleges by Median Family Income of Students (Class of 2013, 2015 \$)

1. **Washington University in St. Louis** – \$272,000
2. **Colgate University** – \$270,200
3. **Washington & Lee University** – \$261,000
4. **Middlebury College** – \$244,300
5. **Colby College** – \$236,000
6. **Tufts University** – \$224,800
7. **Davidson College** – \$213,900
8. **Kenyon College** – \$213,500
9. **Brown University** – \$204,200
10. **Bucknell University** – \$204,200
11. **Vanderbilt University** – \$204,500
12. **Claremont McKenna College** – \$201,300
13. **Dartmouth College** – \$200,400
14. **University of Pennsylvania** – \$195,500
15. **Boston College** – \$194,100
16. **Yale University** – \$192,600
17. **Duke University** – \$186,700
18. **Princeton University** – \$186,100
19. **Johns Hopkins University** – \$177,300
20. **Northwestern University** – \$171,200
21. **Stanford University** – \$167,500
22. **Harvard University** – \$168,000–168,800
23. **USC (University of Southern California)** – \$161,400
24. **University of Virginia** – \$155,500
25. **Carnegie Mellon University** – \$154,700

Would like to see this updated as it’s been 10 years. As far as I know, WashU’s profile has changed a bit since then

Surprised Emory isn’t on this list

[Anonymous]

Well, I loved it there, and it never even occurred to me to apply to an Ivy. This was 20+ years ago, but I think Wash U was the perfect college, and frankly, I probably could have gotten in a lot of places, but Wash U was what I wanted. It was bright but friendly and not pretentious. And I like the Midwest. So haters gonna hate, but I had the best college experience and would go there again in a heartbeat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, I loved it there, and it never even occurred to me to apply to an Ivy. This was 20+ years ago, but I think Wash U was the perfect college, and frankly, I probably could have gotten in a lot of places, but Wash U was what I wanted. It was bright but friendly and not pretentious. And I like the Midwest. So haters gonna hate, but I had the best college experience and would go there again in a heartbeat.

Don’t feel slighted in the least. Only those who unaffiliated with the school look down on it. It’s a phenomenal institution

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:According to the NYT based on Opportunity Insights data:

Top 25 Colleges by Median Family Income of Students (Class of 2013, 2015 \$)

1. **Washington University in St. Louis** – \$272,000
2. **Colgate University** – \$270,200
3. **Washington & Lee University** – \$261,000
4. **Middlebury College** – \$244,300
5. **Colby College** – \$236,000
6. **Tufts University** – \$224,800
7. **Davidson College** – \$213,900
8. **Kenyon College** – \$213,500
9. **Brown University** – \$204,200
10. **Bucknell University** – \$204,200
11. **Vanderbilt University** – \$204,500
12. **Claremont McKenna College** – \$201,300
13. **Dartmouth College** – \$200,400
14. **University of Pennsylvania** – \$195,500
15. **Boston College** – \$194,100
16. **Yale University** – \$192,600
17. **Duke University** – \$186,700
18. **Princeton University** – \$186,100
19. **Johns Hopkins University** – \$177,300
20. **Northwestern University** – \$171,200
21. **Stanford University** – \$167,500
22. **Harvard University** – \$168,000–168,800
23. **USC (University of Southern California)** – \$161,400
24. **University of Virginia** – \$155,500
25. **Carnegie Mellon University** – \$154,700

The only ivy not on the list is Cornell. Proud to be a Cornellian!

um, Columbia isn't there either

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:WashU is for kids who can’t get into Ivies. Washed Up.

Why would I want my kid to go to an Ivy, ew! That's just a bunch of kids getting in based on the prep classes and activities mommy and daddy paycheck could cover. So lame.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Beautiful campus, one of best dorms & food & professors (Source: Niche), which means a quality lifestyle for undergrad

Consistently ranked in the Top 15 National Universities and Top 20 on USNEWS until this year due to the ranking methodology changes, and good weather.

Other than the lack of laymen's prestige and the location of St. Louis (which is invalid because it's actually in Clayton), why is it looked down upon on DCUM? There seems to be a lot of misinformation being spread, like a 40% acceptance rate ED1/ED2 which is comically fake and untrue.

My Senior DC with high stats from a competitive high school got rejected ED2 but got into UVA, VT, Purdue. Kids from Midwest & West Coast are dying to get into schools like UofChicago, Northwestern, Rice, Washu, ETC, but East coast seems to dislike WashU specfically.

It’s still in the middle of flyover country.

[Anonymous]

I am from the heartland. For a coastal kid who is a Democrat, it is not appealing to go to a restrictive red state.