Why so much WUSTL/WashU hate on DCUM?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I taught at a couple Ivies, Wash U., and another peer school. If their kids got into Stanford, MIT, or Caltech then DCUM snobs hate the Ivies. If their kid barely got into one Ivy, then they hate Northwestern. If their kid got into Northwestern or Chicago, then they hate Wash. U. They don't want to share status.

USNews rates some Ivies as low as #15. The next private National Universities are Rice, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt, Carnegie Mellon, Wash U., Emory, Georgetown, USC, NYU. So Wash. U. is solidly in the second 15 schools. Georgetown has great placement in finance and probably State Department, but Wash. U. has better STEM and a suburban campus.

Totally agree, but it begs the question why the status accrues in the first place. As you said, some Ivies consistently rank below non-Ivy schools. What say the Ivy hounds? There’s higher and lower Ivy.

What’s really being prioritized by “Ivy” is smarts and ADHD-level ambition. Not everyone who attends an Ivy is like this, but those who standout, do.

It’s not that ambition itself is bad, but pathological ambition is bad because it routinely runs over people and institutions and leaves society with the fallout/consequences.

What is "ADHD-level ambition"?
New terms poping up every day ...

[Anonymous]

Some people simply don’t want to spend the rest if their lives explaining to everybody they meet that their alma mater is not in DC or the Pacific Northwest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some people simply don’t want to spend the rest if their lives explaining to everybody they meet that their alma mater is not in DC or the Pacific Northwest.

What two strange places to bring up. These places aren’t known for an abundance of elite universities.

Also you talk to “everybody” about your Alma Mayer?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some people simply don’t want to spend the rest if their lives explaining to everybody they meet that their alma mater is not in DC or the Pacific Northwest.

Hoe many times in your adult life are you discussing where you went to undergrad?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some people simply don’t want to spend the rest if their lives explaining to everybody they meet that their alma mater is not in DC or the Pacific Northwest.

Hoe many times in your adult life are you discussing where you went to undergrad?

People who went to Williams have to explain to people that they didn’t go to “Williams and Mary” all the time. Not a big deal. Wash U is a great school. I don’t understand the hate either.

[Anonymous]

OP- ppl on the east coast are super snobby and geocentric and closed-minded. That’s the answer. They pretend they are more sophisticated and in the know but they only know what’s local. Wash U is great and beautiful.

Feel out for yourself and your kid- who cares what random anonymous parents on this specific site write anonymously. I’m sure most of these folks haven’t achieved all that much prestige or success.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I taught at a couple Ivies, Wash U., and another peer school. If their kids got into Stanford, MIT, or Caltech then DCUM snobs hate the Ivies. If their kid barely got into one Ivy, then they hate Northwestern. If their kid got into Northwestern or Chicago, then they hate Wash. U. They don't want to share status.

USNews rates some Ivies as low as #15. The next private National Universities are Rice, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt, Carnegie Mellon, Wash U., Emory, Georgetown, USC, NYU. So Wash. U. is solidly in the second 15 schools. Georgetown has great placement in finance and probably State Department, but Wash. U. has better STEM and a suburban campus.

Totally agree, but it begs the question why the status accrues in the first place. As you said, some Ivies consistently rank below non-Ivy schools. What say the Ivy hounds? There’s higher and lower Ivy.

What’s really being prioritized by “Ivy” is smarts and ADHD-level ambition. Not everyone who attends an Ivy is like this, but those who standout, do.

It’s not that ambition itself is bad, but pathological ambition is bad because it routinely runs over people and institutions and leaves society with the fallout/consequences.

What is "ADHD-level ambition"?
New terms poping up every day ...

It’s been a gross day on here, that one and “grinders on the spectrum.”

I understand it’s easier on the ego to think like this for some, but it’s just gross.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Homelessness, racial tensions, Ferguson, gun violence, drugs, rich underachievers who couldn’t get in anywhere better

No dog in this fight but WashU is one of the top schools in the country. Not a single person there is an underachiever. Everyone is an overachiever or they could not get in. If they suck then what does that say for the 98% of college students at lower placed schools? Idiotic comment.

[Anonymous]

WashU is wonderful! So are many schools! Objectively it is a T20. I was off DCUM for a week and it turned more immature than usual. Have students taken over?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Beautiful campus, one of best dorms & food & professors (Source: Niche), which means a quality lifestyle for undergrad

Consistently ranked in the Top 15 National Universities and Top 20 on USNEWS until this year due to the ranking methodology changes, and good weather.

Other than the lack of laymen's prestige and the location of St. Louis (which is invalid because it's actually in Clayton), why is it looked down upon on DCUM? There seems to be a lot of misinformation being spread, like a 40% acceptance rate ED1/ED2 which is comically fake and untrue.

My Senior DC with high stats from a competitive high school got rejected ED2 but got into UVA, VT, Purdue. Kids from Midwest & West Coast are dying to get into schools like UofChicago, Northwestern, Rice, Washu, ETC, but East coast seems to dislike WashU specfically.

Lol wash u is NOWHERE near even the outermost orbit of the bolded. You flatter yourself

WashU is a peer school with those schools. Direct peers. Not sure what you are smoking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Homelessness, racial tensions, Ferguson, gun violence, drugs, rich underachievers who couldn’t get in anywhere better

No dog in this fight but WashU is one of the top schools in the country. Not a single person there is an underachiever. Everyone is an overachiever or they could not get in. If they suck then what does that say for the 98% of college students at lower placed schools? Idiotic comment.

+1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The haters always have a NE bias. So, start by considering the source.

Have you ever asked a NYC person what they think about the Midwest? They speak about it pejoratively as “flyover” country. In other words, there’s no reason to go there. Period. That means Michigan, Northwestern, Chicago, WSTL, Vanderbilt, and others will never get the love that NE schools get. It’s distaste by definition.

It’s also distaste by culture. The NE prides itself in Type-A competitiveness, big city culture, name-brand elites, and prestigious Wall Street and consulting firms. The Midwest offers something else, but whatever it is, it’s not good-enough for NE hard chargers. The Midwest and its colleges might have smart kids, but they’re not as cutthroat as NE students, and for that, the NE marks them as “less than.”

No, Michigan, Chicago, and Northwestern are very well respected in the NE.

Nice try, but they’re still seen as Ivy rejects.

No. Healthy, happy, knowledgeable people don’t think that way.

I don’t think Michigan is a back up school for Ivy rejects. Most Michigan students don’t give the Ivies a second thought. Chicago and Northwestern are different stories.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Beautiful campus, one of best dorms & food & professors (Source: Niche), which means a quality lifestyle for undergrad

Consistently ranked in the Top 15 National Universities and Top 20 on USNEWS until this year due to the ranking methodology changes, and good weather.

Other than the lack of laymen's prestige and the location of St. Louis (which is invalid because it's actually in Clayton), why is it looked down upon on DCUM? There seems to be a lot of misinformation being spread, like a 40% acceptance rate ED1/ED2 which is comically fake and untrue.

My Senior DC with high stats from a competitive high school got rejected ED2 but got into UVA, VT, Purdue. Kids from Midwest & West Coast are dying to get into schools like UofChicago, Northwestern, Rice, Washu, ETC, but East coast seems to dislike WashU specfically.

Lol wash u is NOWHERE near even the outermost orbit of the bolded. You flatter yourself

WashU is a peer school with those schools. Direct peers. Not sure what you are smoking.

Indeed..
Really think there must be kids on here

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ PP.

The NE believes that “the best” are smart AND hyper-ambitious. They are hard chargers. Did you see the Social Network? The movie depicts Zuckerberg’s rise from Harvard to Facebook. You can’t watch that movie without thinking, “Zuck is a d*ck.” Yet, the NE loves that kind of personality. Once you understand that, you’ll understand why posters on here say that the best are at the Ivies and everyone else couldn’t get in.

I disagree. My kid was Ivy-qualified, but never applied. He’s not cutthroat. Didn’t want to put up with d*cks, no matter their smarts. I applaud him for showing the courage to be true to himself and having an ethics of kindness and collaboration.

LOL. Your kid eliminated several top schools because of a movie about Facebook. Maybe he’s not quite “Ivy-qualified”.

The post didn’t connect those two. Bad reasoning on your part. The movie mention was only illustrative for readers. No mention that the movie impacted the kid’s decision whatsoever. You’d score poorly on the LSAT.

What informed his perception that all of those schools are full of “d*cks”?

Certainly nothing based in reality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The haters always have a NE bias. So, start by considering the source.

Have you ever asked a NYC person what they think about the Midwest? They speak about it pejoratively as “flyover” country. In other words, there’s no reason to go there. Period. That means Michigan, Northwestern, Chicago, WSTL, Vanderbilt, and others will never get the love that NE schools get. It’s distaste by definition.

It’s also distaste by culture. The NE prides itself in Type-A competitiveness, big city culture, name-brand elites, and prestigious Wall Street and consulting firms. The Midwest offers something else, but whatever it is, it’s not good-enough for NE hard chargers. The Midwest and its colleges might have smart kids, but they’re not as cutthroat as NE students, and for that, the NE marks them as “less than.”

No, Michigan, Chicago, and Northwestern are very well respected in the NE.

Nice try, but they’re still seen as Ivy rejects.

They might be a little less prestigious than the top Ivy schools, but they are still very respected in the NE.

Chicago/Ann Arbor aren’t really considered “flyover”.