I tipped over the line this week and can’t support Biden

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Anonymous wrote:Would any of the pro-Israel Biden supporters here be ok if Biden were arming Hamas against Jews and killing them? What about the antisemitic Americans during the Holocaust? Wasn’t that despicable how Americans were willing to sell Jews down the river just because they didn’t care enough?

Why is supporting Israel so important that I have to support a genocide to be able to vote?

It's Israel, not "Jews".

Oh I was actually giving you a freebie, by hypothesizing about if Biden were arming Hamas to kill Jews.

Are you saying that Hamas is fighting only against Israel? I think that’s right, abut most Zionists believe that Hamas is anti-Jewish not anti-Israeli.

You are being obtuse or - and trying to put this delicately - not well informed.

Hamas has the following in its founding charter:

Article Seven of the Charter concludes with a quotation from a hadith: The Day of Judgment will not come until Muslims fight the Jews, when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say, 'O Muslim, O servant of God, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.

Please stop normalizing Jewish hatred, anti semitism, and the terrorist group that is Hamas.

I am agreeing with you, you bozo. I was giving you that point as a freebie.

Which brings me back to my question. Would you have been vote for Biden if he were arming Hamas against Jews?

Or even just Rashida Tlaib heading up State. I’d almost pay to witness the white phosphorous rage and cancelling that would ensue …

Yeah, remind me of the elected Jewish Congressional leaders chanting at rallies for Palestinians to be murdered. Or Jewish Congressional leaders who are pegging their entire platform toward eliminating a Muslim or Arab state.

She has never - not once - done either of the things that you just falsely accused her of; but yes, we get it - you would be freaking out and histrionically demanding relief if the tables were turned.

Stop with the gaslighting and lies. I’ll just start when the most recent when after 10/7 she referred to Hamas as martyrs and lead chants of “to the sea”. All on social media so go grab some popcorn and catch up. While you’re at it, stop with the lies.

In the same bucket of “facts” as the 40 beheaded babies, the babies cut from wombs, the babies in ovens and on clotheslines, the baby falafels fried during the massacre, the mass rapes, the child rapes, the traumatized victims with razor-sharp recollections of events occurring hundreds of meters away from their hiding spots, and so many other “facts” served up by Israel.

You are grossly trivializing the massacre on 10/7. Much of the massacre was caught in Hamas’ own social media posts. Go check those out if you have the stomach for it. But sure you know the atrocities Jews and others - they weren’t all Jews or even Israelis - suffered on 10/7.

But quite sure you don’t care about facts. You are one of those who like to make jokes about Jews in ovens and the Holocaust was all a hoax.

You seem intent on personal accusations, but for the record, I don’t think any human suffering is deserving of jokes - including the holocaust, the atrocities of 10/7, and the atrocities back and forth before and since in that region.

I’m with you there

[Anonymous]

Good for you. This actually is a genocide particularly of Palestinian Christians who number less than 5,000 in the Gaza Strip. The first churches in the world are being bombed. I recommend the sermon Christ in the Rubble by Palestinian preacher Munther Isaac. Very powerful recent sermon

[Anonymous]

I’ve tipped over the line too.
Cannot stomach voting for Biden after the Israel debacle. Trump is even worse.
Guess I will sit this one out

[Anonymous]

Biden was also a staunch supporter of the invasion of Iraq. How did that turn out?

There is a growing list of places that were unquestionably better off when Trump was president:

Israel/Palestine
Ukraine
Afghanistan
Yemen
Our southern border

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Anonymous wrote:I hate it, but I just can’t vote for him. I’ll sit this one out. Given that his competition is Trump, it’s a low low bar. But I just can’t support a guy who is helping conduct a genocide. I’m a white Christian 50 something in Virginia, so it isn’t directly personal to me, but I just can’t do it.

Anyone have any arguments other than “Trump is worse.” I agree, but that alone just isn’t enough

Idiot

Voting
Biden you get to vote again in four years Trump you don’t

See how simple idiocy literally you are an idiot

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ve tipped over the line too.
Cannot stomach voting for Biden after the Israel debacle. Trump is even worse.
Guess I will sit this one out

Sitting it out is a de-facto vote for Trump. If he wins, it will be your fault. But you do you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:1) Do you want your children or grandchildren to inherit a democracy?

2) Do you want to enable Putin to run over the Baltics like Hitler?

3) Biden is becoming more and more vocal, trying to reign in Netanyahu. We don’t control other countries.

We don't have to support Israel and give it money.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:1) Do you want your children or grandchildren to inherit a democracy?

2) Do you want to enable Putin to run over the Baltics like Hitler?

3) Biden is becoming more and more vocal, trying to reign in Netanyahu. We don’t control other countries.

We don't have to support Israel and give it money.

Why do you care more about Palestinians than Americans?

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Anonymous wrote:Biden was also a staunch supporter of the invasion of Iraq. How did that turn out?

There is a growing list of places that were unquestionably better off when Trump was president:

Israel/Palestine
Ukraine
Afghanistan
Yemen
Our southern border

Not sure about Afghanistan with the Mother of all Bombs Trump exploded that probably helped the Taliban take over power in 2021 and lead to our humiliating withdrawal under Biden. A mother of all bombs (whatever that God forsaken thing even is-the first one we ever launched apparently ) certainly wouldn’t make one lean toward an America friendly government . He pushed them to Russia.

He certainly he didn’t help Yemen by giving weapons to the Saudis . He didn’t build any wall on the Southern border. If anything, the strict rules and ICE watchdogs led to a 4 year backlog for migrants during his term and during COVID crushing world economies that meant an even bigger sea of migrants pouring in now and it would’ve happened even if we had a Republican administration currently .

Inflation is also Trumps fault for spending money and printing money like it was going out of style .

Gaza is also his fault. His scammer son in law is childhood friends with Bibi and so the Trump admin let Bibi and Israel go haywire with the settlements, moving the embassy to Jerusalem, and just overall killings in the West Bank. Because the Us government didn’t provide the usual stick to Israel and instead Trump gave them a carrot, Netanyahu got power drunk : something Trump even acknowledges. Trumps free pass to Israel definitely led to 10/7 Especially coming from the frigid Obama years where Israel wouldn’t get away with half the things they did like the embassy, and the killing of Palestinian Americans so easily.

[Anonymous]

Netanyahu is a WEF depopulation globalist.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Open borders means a hard no for me. If Biden simply stopped the insanity at the border I’d bite for him.

He was willing to close the border, but the republican congress would not vote the bill. So you are not being truthful.

However I have considered not voting for him because his support of Israel.

Liar. Current Libs in power are in no way ´willing to close the borders’.

[Anonymous]

Is there a presidential candidate that doesn’t want to support Israel?

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Anonymous wrote:Open borders means a hard no for me. If Biden simply stopped the insanity at the border I’d bite for him.

He was willing to close the border, but the republican congress would not vote the bill. So you are not being truthful.

However I have considered not voting for him because his support of Israel.

Liar. Current Libs in power are in no way ´willing to close the borders’.

Wrong. Biden supports the border bill. Trump is the one that killed it. Trump wants border problems so he can try to use that to manipulate some votes. Like your vote apparently.

[Anonymous]

Do you think a Trump admin won't send money to Israel? Remember, Jews are now Republicans best friends because they hate Muslims more than they hate Jews.

And life for AMERICAN Palestinians and other Muslims is going to get worse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is there a presidential candidate that doesn’t want to support Israel?

Yes . What would Trump be doing right now?