Trump full blown unamerican war monger

[Anonymous]

Do not vote for any Republican. Everyone of them is chickenshit. They all know how idiotic and insane Trump is but have no courage and no convictions.

Republican NATO hawks wave the white flag to Trump’s provocations
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/02/12/republican-nato-hawks-wave-white-flag-trumps-provocations/

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Anonymous wrote:Why doesn't isolationism work? We are a huge country with ample natural resources.

The rest of the world that cares whose ancestors owned a parcel of land thousands of years ago are the ones who can eff off.

Why? Because this isn't 1950. We don't have "ample" natural resources". The birthrate in this country is only as "high" as it is because of immigrants.

Isolationist strategies do not work in a modern world.

Why not? We can't grow our own food, invent our own tech, produce our own goods and pay our people fair wages to do so? Too many rich globalists will be harmed?

Go to the grocery store right now. Look at where most of the produce comes from, especially the fruit. A lot of it comes from MX or South America.

Certain minerals that are needed for manufacturing aren't readily available in the US.

I would love to pay people fair wages. Do you honestly think Rs are for decent wages? Or is that perhaps what Dems support?

Also, don't forget that Trump owns a lot of business overseas, and he hires foreign workers. Not to mention how much the Kushners have made from helping the Chinese to buy their way into our country. Trump married two foreign women, one of which used chain migration to bring her entire family, a family that were party of the communist party in a Soviet backed country. The Trumps are the epitome of globalists.

I'm not voting for Trump.

Maybe we eat less fruit. Maybe we trade for minerals we need. I'm sure we have things those countries want. You think Mexico or India won't trade with us if we pull back on NATO?

Why does any of that necessitate us providing military support for a huge portion of the world.

You're back tracking. You talked about Isolationism, not pulling out of NATO.

Isolationism means complete closed borders to people, and even if we want to trade with India or MX, they won't want to if we have an isolationist strategy.

Business 101: a company cannot remain stagnant, and without a growing market. What you are describing is like communism where every person has a job, and all goods are produced for the people to consume. Sounds great in theory; reality is never that simple.

Capitalism likes globalism.

Maybe we eat less fruit? Are you kidding? Most Americans already don't eat enough fruit, and you want it to get even more scarce? Are you wanting people to die early of heart disease?

Also, we shouldn't pull out of NATO because history has taught us that global instability does impact us. We cannot go back to isolationism. That ship has sailed.

We can be less globalized. It's not a binary choice. Capitalism without constraints has been great for the people at the top. It's hollowed out America's working and middle class.

We can vigorously protect our own borders without expanding the territory we are responsible for defending by protecting half of Europe.

We have a ton of farmland we've destroyed by growing monoculture crops no one uses while we import cheap produce from elsewhere.

Open your mind that the current system is not sustainable and overextended empires inevitably collapse.

How does protecting your borders have anything to do with globalisation? So you're saying you want to heavily subsidize production of local agriculture and impose tariffs on imported produce? Fine, but again what that have to do with security alliances and NATO?

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We can be less globalized. It's not a binary choice. Capitalism without constraints has been great for the people at the top. It's hollowed out America's working and middle class. which is why the democrats routinely support family owned farms rather than big agri-business and why the democrats support re-shoring manufacturing jobs

We can vigorously protect our own borders without expanding the territory we are responsible for defending by protecting half of Europe. history repeats itself...if the US isn't ensuring 'peace through strength' we will have more aggression in Europe and elsewhere around the world. If we turn our back on it, in the long term, it will harm our country as well

We have a ton of farmland we've destroyed by growing monoculture crops no one uses while we import cheap produce from elsewhere. which is why the EPA and US Dept of Ag have programs to combat this. The GOP routinely opposes these measures as "over regulatory"

Open your mind that the current system is not sustainable and overextended empires inevitably collapse.

Open your mind that sometimes people gaslight their voters into believing something that isn't true.

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Anonymous wrote:Why doesn't isolationism work? We are a huge country with ample natural resources.

The rest of the world that cares whose ancestors owned a parcel of land thousands of years ago are the ones who can eff off.

Why? Because this isn't 1950. We don't have "ample" natural resources". The birthrate in this country is only as "high" as it is because of immigrants.

Isolationist strategies do not work in a modern world.

Why not? We can't grow our own food, invent our own tech, produce our own goods and pay our people fair wages to do so? Too many rich globalists will be harmed?

Go to the grocery store right now. Look at where most of the produce comes from, especially the fruit. A lot of it comes from MX or South America.

Certain minerals that are needed for manufacturing aren't readily available in the US.

I would love to pay people fair wages. Do you honestly think Rs are for decent wages? Or is that perhaps what Dems support?

Also, don't forget that Trump owns a lot of business overseas, and he hires foreign workers. Not to mention how much the Kushners have made from helping the Chinese to buy their way into our country. Trump married two foreign women, one of which used chain migration to bring her entire family, a family that were party of the communist party in a Soviet backed country. The Trumps are the epitome of globalists.

I'm not voting for Trump.

Maybe we eat less fruit. Maybe we trade for minerals we need. I'm sure we have things those countries want. You think Mexico or India won't trade with us if we pull back on NATO?

Why does any of that necessitate us providing military support for a huge portion of the world.

You're back tracking. You talked about Isolationism, not pulling out of NATO.

Isolationism means complete closed borders to people, and even if we want to trade with India or MX, they won't want to if we have an isolationist strategy.

Business 101: a company cannot remain stagnant, and without a growing market. What you are describing is like communism where every person has a job, and all goods are produced for the people to consume. Sounds great in theory; reality is never that simple.

Capitalism likes globalism.

Maybe we eat less fruit? Are you kidding? Most Americans already don't eat enough fruit, and you want it to get even more scarce? Are you wanting people to die early of heart disease?

Also, we shouldn't pull out of NATO because history has taught us that global instability does impact us. We cannot go back to isolationism. That ship has sailed.

We can be less globalized. It's not a binary choice. Capitalism without constraints has been great for the people at the top. It's hollowed out America's working and middle class.

We can vigorously protect our own borders without expanding the territory we are responsible for defending by protecting half of Europe.

We have a ton of farmland we've destroyed by growing monoculture crops no one uses while we import cheap produce from elsewhere.

Open your mind that the current system is not sustainable and overextended empires inevitably collapse.

How does protecting your borders have anything to do with globalisation? So you're saying you want to heavily subsidize production of local agriculture and impose tariffs on imported produce? Fine, but again what that have to do with security alliances and NATO?

Right wing friendly posts, like the one to which you are replying, have gotten really weird. They’re all over the board and don’t say what they mean, they say things that could be understood a number of different ways, but they don’t actually say what they mean.

Trump has to do whatever Russia wants. And Russia wants more territory, hence the GOP will stand down when push comes to shove (even on the new aid bill). Thank god Biden is clever enough to get at least some aid to our allies. That Greece gambit remains my new favorite thing.

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it is humorous when you realize that an idiot like Trump is still competitive with the best the Democrats could put up.

He beat all of the Republicans soundly, despite being a rapist and having tried to overthrow our government.

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Anonymous wrote:Why doesn't isolationism work? We are a huge country with ample natural resources.

The rest of the world that cares whose ancestors owned a parcel of land thousands of years ago are the ones who can eff off.

Why? Because this isn't 1950. We don't have "ample" natural resources". The birthrate in this country is only as "high" as it is because of immigrants.

Isolationist strategies do not work in a modern world.

Why not? We can't grow our own food, invent our own tech, produce our own goods and pay our people fair wages to do so? Too many rich globalists will be harmed?

Go to the grocery store right now. Look at where most of the produce comes from, especially the fruit. A lot of it comes from MX or South America.

Certain minerals that are needed for manufacturing aren't readily available in the US.

I would love to pay people fair wages. Do you honestly think Rs are for decent wages? Or is that perhaps what Dems support?

Also, don't forget that Trump owns a lot of business overseas, and he hires foreign workers. Not to mention how much the Kushners have made from helping the Chinese to buy their way into our country. Trump married two foreign women, one of which used chain migration to bring her entire family, a family that were party of the communist party in a Soviet backed country. The Trumps are the epitome of globalists.

I'm not voting for Trump.

Maybe we eat less fruit. Maybe we trade for minerals we need. I'm sure we have things those countries want. You think Mexico or India won't trade with us if we pull back on NATO?

Why does any of that necessitate us providing military support for a huge portion of the world.

You're back tracking. You talked about Isolationism, not pulling out of NATO.

Isolationism means complete closed borders to people, and even if we want to trade with India or MX, they won't want to if we have an isolationist strategy.

Business 101: a company cannot remain stagnant, and without a growing market. What you are describing is like communism where every person has a job, and all goods are produced for the people to consume. Sounds great in theory; reality is never that simple.

Capitalism likes globalism.

Maybe we eat less fruit? Are you kidding? Most Americans already don't eat enough fruit, and you want it to get even more scarce? Are you wanting people to die early of heart disease?

Also, we shouldn't pull out of NATO because history has taught us that global instability does impact us. We cannot go back to isolationism. That ship has sailed.

We can be less globalized. It's not a binary choice. Capitalism without constraints has been great for the people at the top. It's hollowed out America's working and middle class.

We can vigorously protect our own borders without expanding the territory we are responsible for defending by protecting half of Europe.

We have a ton of farmland we've destroyed by growing monoculture crops no one uses while we import cheap produce from elsewhere.

Open your mind that the current system is not sustainable and overextended empires inevitably collapse.

How does protecting your borders have anything to do with globalisation? So you're saying you want to heavily subsidize production of local agriculture and impose tariffs on imported produce? Fine, but again what that have to do with security alliances and NATO?

You (or a prior poster) were the one who said MX and India won't want to trade with us for some reason if we stop being policeman of the world. I am responding to the argument that sending our military might around the world is necessary for our economic well-being and our safety.

We don't have to fund region conflicts on other continents to keep our citizens safe in our own country. We defend our own borders.

We can trade for fruit or minerals with other countries based on mutually beneficial terms.

The pullback in NATO ( or funds for Ukraine which isn't even in NATO) is because money isn't infinite. The pie doesn't always get bigger. Our priorities and our dollars should be invested in America.

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Isn’t trump the only American president to not start a war?

Asking for those of us in the back.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t trump the only American president to not start a war?

Asking for those of us in the back.

Tried to win the presidency with a coup. Failed miserably but he tried.

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I wonder if the Ukrainians have noticed that their country get invaded every time Joe Biden is in charge over here.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t trump the only American president to not start a war?

Asking for those of us in the back.

No need to start a war when you capitulate to warmongers like Putin.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t trump the only American president to not start a war?

Asking for those of us in the back.

Tried to win the presidency with a coup. Failed miserably but he tried.

I will understand how Biden got those votes at 3AM.
And the end of the day Trump got more votes than Obama, but of course the media will never talk about it. How many times did you hear that Trump got more votes than Obama?
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Biden got more votes than Obama too...More people voted. Biden got 6+ mil more votes than Trump.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder if the Ukrainians have noticed that their country get invaded every time Joe Biden is in charge over here.

Well, yea Putin and Trump are buddies, and Trump hates NATO since he doesn't believe in having allies, so Putin doesn't feel threatened when Trump is in power.

You're thinking that Putin didn't invade Ukraine because he was scared of Trump. No, that's not why. Putin is scared of NATO, and also knows that Trump dislikes Ukraine for not opening an investigation into Biden. Putin has nothing to fear from Trump.

Ukrainian leaders became enthusiastic about joining NATO in 2018. Zelensky, a NATO supporter, wins election 2019. Trump loses 2020, and Biden is more likely to support NATO and Ukraine, thus making Putin feel threatened by NATO (and Ukraine). Putin had to invade Ukraine before they joined NATO, otherwise, Russia would be up against NATO.

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/national-international/ukraine-wanted-to-join-natos-alliance-for-years-what-stopped-it/2813488/

Putin definitely knows that if Trump wins, the US won't be supporting Ukraine anymore. Game over.

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Anonymous wrote:Why doesn't isolationism work? We are a huge country with ample natural resources.

The rest of the world that cares whose ancestors owned a parcel of land thousands of years ago are the ones who can eff off.

Why? Because this isn't 1950. We don't have "ample" natural resources". The birthrate in this country is only as "high" as it is because of immigrants.

Isolationist strategies do not work in a modern world.

Why not? We can't grow our own food, invent our own tech, produce our own goods and pay our people fair wages to do so? Too many rich globalists will be harmed?

Go to the grocery store right now. Look at where most of the produce comes from, especially the fruit. A lot of it comes from MX or South America.

Certain minerals that are needed for manufacturing aren't readily available in the US.

I would love to pay people fair wages. Do you honestly think Rs are for decent wages? Or is that perhaps what Dems support?

Also, don't forget that Trump owns a lot of business overseas, and he hires foreign workers. Not to mention how much the Kushners have made from helping the Chinese to buy their way into our country. Trump married two foreign women, one of which used chain migration to bring her entire family, a family that were party of the communist party in a Soviet backed country. The Trumps are the epitome of globalists.

I'm not voting for Trump.

Maybe we eat less fruit. Maybe we trade for minerals we need. I'm sure we have things those countries want. You think Mexico or India won't trade with us if we pull back on NATO?

Why does any of that necessitate us providing military support for a huge portion of the world.

You're back tracking. You talked about Isolationism, not pulling out of NATO.

Isolationism means complete closed borders to people, and even if we want to trade with India or MX, they won't want to if we have an isolationist strategy.

Business 101: a company cannot remain stagnant, and without a growing market. What you are describing is like communism where every person has a job, and all goods are produced for the people to consume. Sounds great in theory; reality is never that simple.

Capitalism likes globalism.

Maybe we eat less fruit? Are you kidding? Most Americans already don't eat enough fruit, and you want it to get even more scarce? Are you wanting people to die early of heart disease?

Also, we shouldn't pull out of NATO because history has taught us that global instability does impact us. We cannot go back to isolationism. That ship has sailed.

We can be less globalized. It's not a binary choice. Capitalism without constraints has been great for the people at the top. It's hollowed out America's working and middle class.

We can vigorously protect our own borders without expanding the territory we are responsible for defending by protecting half of Europe.

We have a ton of farmland we've destroyed by growing monoculture crops no one uses while we import cheap produce from elsewhere.

Open your mind that the current system is not sustainable and overextended empires inevitably collapse.

How does protecting your borders have anything to do with globalisation? So you're saying you want to heavily subsidize production of local agriculture and impose tariffs on imported produce? Fine, but again what that have to do with security alliances and NATO?

You (or a prior poster) were the one who said MX and India won't want to trade with us for some reason if we stop being policeman of the world. I am responding to the argument that sending our military might around the world is necessary for our economic well-being and our safety.

We don't have to fund region conflicts on other continents to keep our citizens safe in our own country. We defend our own borders.

We can trade for fruit or minerals with other countries based on mutually beneficial terms.

The pullback in NATO ( or funds for Ukraine which isn't even in NATO) is because money isn't infinite. The pie doesn't always get bigger. Our priorities and our dollars should be invested in America.

The GOP says "invest in America" when these foreign spending bills come up. But then, when the domestic spending bills come up, the GOP opposes them. CHIPS, Infrastructure, you name it, the bills get passed by the Dems with little to no GOP support. So you can eff right off with that noise.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t trump the only American president to not start a war?

Asking for those of us in the back.

No need to start a war when you capitulate to warmongers like Putin.

+1

Russia sent troops into Donbas under Trump's watch and it was barely even covered, much less any outrage.

[Anonymous]

Just saw elsewhere on the Internet:

I did not sit through two hours of Red Dawn (1984) in a mall cineplex to have republicans today try and say “Russian aggression is good, actually”