How to get around teen freezing Life 360

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Anonymous wrote:How about telling your kid that if they do that again, they lose their phone for a week.

This.

I would. Plus they are grounded. And second time is a month. Plus they are grounded. Third time, for three months. Plus they are grounded.

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Anonymous wrote:How about telling your kid that if they do that again, they lose their phone for a week.

This.

I would. Plus they are grounded. And second time is a month. Plus they are grounded. Third time, for three months. Plus they are grounded.

These responses are so unhelpful. Some situations are way beyond grounding and some kids don't respect "grounding." Judge parents of these kids for not being perfect parents to "let it get to this point" but it certainly doesn't help fix a situation they are now actively trying to fix.

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I know parents that NEVER take their kid’s phones away. We are talking grades, drugs, sneaking out, drinking, talking back etc… and that iPhone will be in their kids hand each day.

Rationalize that they need to have it to keep in contact and locations. But this thread has shown that locations can be frozen easily and that sometimes the loss of connections to the bad influences (esp if they don’t go to your school) will help in the long run.

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Anonymous wrote:I know parents that NEVER take their kid’s phones away. We are talking grades, drugs, sneaking out, drinking, talking back etc… and that iPhone will be in their kids hand each day.

Rationalize that they need to have it to keep in contact and locations. But this thread has shown that locations can be frozen easily and that sometimes the loss of connections to the bad influences (esp if they don’t go to your school) will help in the long run.

We know parents like that too. It’s so frustrating because of course our teens compare them and oh well

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Anonymous wrote:I just trust my kids. If they haven’t given me a reason to think they are misbehaving, I trust them. I don’t track them.

I am the OP. I have lost trust in my 15yr old when I sensed something was off and did a deep dive on their phone. That is the problem. So when they got their phone back after 2 weeks, of course I am going to track them, which we always had as a family and I rarely looked at. But it sounds like kids are hacking life 360 to sneak out, leave school for lunch, staying after school, etc… so I just wanted to be one up on it. They also get around ring cameras.

They can already not do sleepovers and to the person that said check their bed at 3am every night, thank you. Caught again last night after coming home at 11:00pm, even when life 360 said they were home. So punished and loss of phone again.

And for those judging. I am trying. We live in a normal 4 person two parent home and my 17yr old is nothing like this. We are pretty flexible and never helicopterish. This is a new friend group and it’s been hell since Sept.

Op this is more than a phone problem.
1. Get kid in therapy.
2. Change kids school or homeschool. 3. No more of that friends group. Escort kid to all activities. Enroll kid in sport/hobby/skill at least three nights a week. Quit your job if you have to.

This is the critical drug/alcohol period. Your kid needs you. Yes they will hate you. In ten years they will thank you.

OP here

They are in therapy and on a new medication as of a month ago

Trying to get them away from the friend group but they are also in their school

I can’t switch schools. It wouldn’t matter.

They are in a club sport that starts Jan until July so hopeful that will help. Will be with team a lot.

I hate taking away phone but it’s what needed to happen.

I work from home PT. I am the driver almost all the time. The biggest thing was taking away sleepovers.

Thanks for the suggestions - honestly.

You don’t even have to take the phone. Just disconnect the service. Turn it off. Period.

Most kids get burner phones

Not if they don't have jobs.

How do kids vape, do drugs, drink, eat out at locations, shop etc….

Teens have ways to get money

Most teens are not thieves. So if they don't work, they are getting the money from their parents or grandparents. I can assure you my unemployed teens don't have enough money for burner phones. And if they did, they'd blow it on Lululemon and Sephora instead anyway.

You can get a good burner for $50

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I don’t know why my teens don’t do this stuff. I don’t think it’s superior parenting. Just luck I guess. I have other forms of bad luck, but so far not this.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know why my teens don’t do this stuff. I don’t think it’s superior parenting. Just luck I guess. I have other forms of bad luck, but so far not this.

I really hope it is good luck for you.

But I will point out that ALL parents think that their kids don't do this stuff, unless or until they get caught. I'm not saying your kids do it. I'm saying you just can't be sure.

I say this as a parent who has no reason to believe her kids do this stuff, and as someone who absolutely DID do this stuff as a teen and never got caught.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know why my teens don’t do this stuff. I don’t think it’s superior parenting. Just luck I guess. I have other forms of bad luck, but so far not this.

I really hope it is good luck for you.

But I will point out that ALL parents think that their kids don't do this stuff, unless or until they get caught. I'm not saying your kids do it. I'm saying you just can't be sure.

I say this as a parent who has no reason to believe her kids do this stuff, and as someone who absolutely DID do this stuff as a teen and never got caught.

Maybe. But the “crowds” that do this stuff are a little too cool for my kids, even though they are acquaintance-type friends with them. And thanks to social media nowadays, everyone knows who is in the drinking groups.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know why my teens don’t do this stuff. I don’t think it’s superior parenting. Just luck I guess. I have other forms of bad luck, but so far not this.

I really hope it is good luck for you.

But I will point out that ALL parents think that their kids don't do this stuff, unless or until they get caught. I'm not saying your kids do it. I'm saying you just can't be sure.

I say this as a parent who has no reason to believe her kids do this stuff, and as someone who absolutely DID do this stuff as a teen and never got caught.

Maybe. But the “crowds” that do this stuff are a little too cool for my kids, even though they are acquaintance-type friends with them. And thanks to social media nowadays, everyone knows who is in the drinking groups.

I am curious how you know who the drinking groups are? You are saying ppl post tik toks and ig posts of under age drinking?

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know why my teens don’t do this stuff. I don’t think it’s superior parenting. Just luck I guess. I have other forms of bad luck, but so far not this.

I really hope it is good luck for you.

But I will point out that ALL parents think that their kids don't do this stuff, unless or until they get caught. I'm not saying your kids do it. I'm saying you just can't be sure.

I say this as a parent who has no reason to believe her kids do this stuff, and as someone who absolutely DID do this stuff as a teen and never got caught.

Maybe. But the “crowds” that do this stuff are a little too cool for my kids, even though they are acquaintance-type friends with them. And thanks to social media nowadays, everyone knows who is in the drinking groups.

I am curious how you know who the drinking groups are? You are saying ppl post tik toks and ig posts of under age drinking?

Yes, they post on social media with solo cups or drinks in cuzies. Also, my kids know kids who do go to the parties and tell them who was there and who was the drunkest. There are also videos of people being drunk. Plus the kids brag about the drinking - it’s not cool if people don’t know you do it! Nothing is a secret. Nothing.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know why my teens don’t do this stuff. I don’t think it’s superior parenting. Just luck I guess. I have other forms of bad luck, but so far not this.

I really hope it is good luck for you.

But I will point out that ALL parents think that their kids don't do this stuff, unless or until they get caught. I'm not saying your kids do it. I'm saying you just can't be sure.

I say this as a parent who has no reason to believe her kids do this stuff, and as someone who absolutely DID do this stuff as a teen and never got caught.

Maybe. But the “crowds” that do this stuff are a little too cool for my kids, even though they are acquaintance-type friends with them. And thanks to social media nowadays, everyone knows who is in the drinking groups.

I am curious how you know who the drinking groups are? You are saying ppl post tik toks and ig posts of under age drinking?

Yes, they post on social media with solo cups or drinks in cuzies. Also, my kids know kids who do go to the parties and tell them who was there and who was the drunkest. There are also videos of people being drunk. Plus the kids brag about the drinking - it’s not cool if people don’t know you do it! Nothing is a secret. Nothing.

I would really caution against concluding that the group of kids that are openly public about their drinking are the ONLY kids drinking (or doing drugs).

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know why my teens don’t do this stuff. I don’t think it’s superior parenting. Just luck I guess. I have other forms of bad luck, but so far not this.

I really hope it is good luck for you.

But I will point out that ALL parents think that their kids don't do this stuff, unless or until they get caught. I'm not saying your kids do it. I'm saying you just can't be sure.

I say this as a parent who has no reason to believe her kids do this stuff, and as someone who absolutely DID do this stuff as a teen and never got caught.

Maybe. But the “crowds” that do this stuff are a little too cool for my kids, even though they are acquaintance-type friends with them. And thanks to social media nowadays, everyone knows who is in the drinking groups.

I am curious how you know who the drinking groups are? You are saying ppl post tik toks and ig posts of under age drinking?

Yes, they post on social media with solo cups or drinks in cuzies. Also, my kids know kids who do go to the parties and tell them who was there and who was the drunkest. There are also videos of people being drunk. Plus the kids brag about the drinking - it’s not cool if people don’t know you do it! Nothing is a secret. Nothing.

I would really caution against concluding that the group of kids that are openly public about their drinking are the ONLY kids drinking (or doing drugs).

My kid is 17 and not in the “drinking group” - he is friends with them, but doesn’t go to big drinking parties. He is almost always in bed by 10, is a serious athlete and a bit of a homebody. And yet…he admitted that the low key “hang outs” he does go to at friends houses or wandering around town sometimes include drinking beer in the woods. I am surprised - he doesn’t like beer, values his fitness, generally doesn’t break rules. I think pretty much all late teens are around drinking and drugs. Of course individuals may choose to abstain (wish that was my kid, but I don’t have those illusions anymore).

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know why my teens don’t do this stuff. I don’t think it’s superior parenting. Just luck I guess. I have other forms of bad luck, but so far not this.

I think there are kids born with better impulse control and better foresight about the consequences of actions. Others simply have to learn everything the hard way and are more prone to boundary pushing and limits testing.

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Anonymous wrote:I just trust my kids. If they haven’t given me a reason to think they are misbehaving, I trust them. I don’t track them.

I am the OP. I have lost trust in my 15yr old when I sensed something was off and did a deep dive on their phone. That is the problem. So when they got their phone back after 2 weeks, of course I am going to track them, which we always had as a family and I rarely looked at. But it sounds like kids are hacking life 360 to sneak out, leave school for lunch, staying after school, etc… so I just wanted to be one up on it. They also get around ring cameras.

They can already not do sleepovers and to the person that said check their bed at 3am every night, thank you. Caught again last night after coming home at 11:00pm, even when life 360 said they were home. So punished and loss of phone again.

And for those judging. I am trying. We live in a normal 4 person two parent home and my 17yr old is nothing like this. We are pretty flexible and never helicopterish. This is a new friend group and it’s been hell since Sept.

Op this is more than a phone problem.
1. Get kid in therapy.
2. Change kids school or homeschool. 3. No more of that friends group. Escort kid to all activities. Enroll kid in sport/hobby/skill at least three nights a week. Quit your job if you have to.

This is the critical drug/alcohol period. Your kid needs you. Yes they will hate you. In ten years they will thank you.

OP here

They are in therapy and on a new medication as of a month ago

Trying to get them away from the friend group but they are also in their school

I can’t switch schools. It wouldn’t matter.

They are in a club sport that starts Jan until July so hopeful that will help. Will be with team a lot.

I hate taking away phone but it’s what needed to happen.

I work from home PT. I am the driver almost all the time. The biggest thing was taking away sleepovers.

Thanks for the suggestions - honestly.

You don’t even have to take the phone. Just disconnect the service. Turn it off. Period.

Most kids get burner phones

Most kids like whose kids. They may have a burner phone and their phone location will be on as long as I pay the phone bill.

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Anonymous wrote:I just trust my kids. If they haven’t given me a reason to think they are misbehaving, I trust them. I don’t track them.

I am the OP. I have lost trust in my 15yr old when I sensed something was off and did a deep dive on their phone. That is the problem. So when they got their phone back after 2 weeks, of course I am going to track them, which we always had as a family and I rarely looked at. But it sounds like kids are hacking life 360 to sneak out, leave school for lunch, staying after school, etc… so I just wanted to be one up on it. They also get around ring cameras.

They can already not do sleepovers and to the person that said check their bed at 3am every night, thank you. Caught again last night after coming home at 11:00pm, even when life 360 said they were home. So punished and loss of phone again.

And for those judging. I am trying. We live in a normal 4 person two parent home and my 17yr old is nothing like this. We are pretty flexible and never helicopterish. This is a new friend group and it’s been hell since Sept.

Op this is more than a phone problem.
1. Get kid in therapy.
2. Change kids school or homeschool. 3. No more of that friends group. Escort kid to all activities. Enroll kid in sport/hobby/skill at least three nights a week. Quit your job if you have to.

This is the critical drug/alcohol period. Your kid needs you. Yes they will hate you. In ten years they will thank you.

OP here

They are in therapy and on a new medication as of a month ago

Trying to get them away from the friend group but they are also in their school

I can’t switch schools. It wouldn’t matter.

They are in a club sport that starts Jan until July so hopeful that will help. Will be with team a lot.

I hate taking away phone but it’s what needed to happen.

I work from home PT. I am the driver almost all the time. The biggest thing was taking away sleepovers.

Thanks for the suggestions - honestly.

You don’t even have to take the phone. Just disconnect the service. Turn it off. Period.

Most kids get burner phones

Most kids like whose kids. They may have a burner phone and their phone location will be on as long as I pay the phone bill.

Oh you are so clueless lol