Did not get into Georgetown or Notre Dame. Now what?

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Maybe smaller Jesuit or Holy Cross schools with the idea of easier transfer as a sophomore/junior?

Jesuit - Fairfield, Fordham, Creighton, Loyola MD or Chicago
Holy Cross - Portland, Stonehill, St. Edward’s, Kings

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Did not get into Georgetown or Notre Dame. Now what ?

Switch religions ?

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe smaller Jesuit or Holy Cross schools with the idea of easier transfer as a sophomore/junior?

Jesuit - Fairfield, Fordham, Creighton, Loyola MD or Chicago
Holy Cross - Portland, Stonehill, St. Edward’s, Kings

This is actually a really good point. There is an association of Jesuit colleges that seems to be active. The curriculum at Georgetown will have commonalities with the other 28 Jesuit schools in the US, and with hundreds worldwide. Going to another Jesuit school would also be a bonus if your son decides to try and transfer to GU.

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Duke, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Boston College, Villanova, Holy Cross, U Virginia, WashUStL, Wake Forest University, Tufts, SMU.

Several LACs offer ED 2.

Davidson College in North Carolina.

OP: It's difficult to refocus after having one's heart set on two outstanding schools, but disappointment is a part of life that often leads one to a better place.

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Anonymous wrote:The obvious: BC, Villanova, Santa Clara, safety Holy Cross. But you must have considered all these?

Holy Cross a safety? Hardly.

+1 Villanova is the safety on that list.

My 4.4/1520/500+ hours of community service kid (plus a million other ECs and such) got rejected from Villanova today. I wouldn't call it a safety.

Sorry to hear this, pp and op.

My college senior, after being rejected at Georgetown (my alma mater), went to St. Joe’s. There is a lot to be said for being a big fish in a little sea, rather than swimming with sharks.

There are many, many families with kids at both Villanova and SJU. Talk with them. My son has HS friends at Villanova and he’s even ridden the train home to DC with them on breaks.

The world is simply different today.[/b] I do wish they would limit the number of schools kids apply to, but I guess the schools might miss the cash and “selectivity” that comes with rejecting HS seniors.

[b]The number of schools applied to has nothing to do with getting rejected, let's say at Georgetown. There are only a certain number of admission spots.

It does. Kids are blasting applications everywhere. In the 1980s, 1990s--you would apply to 4-5 colleges. Now kids are applying to all 8 Ivies, every top 10 and most of the top 25. So now these schools have close to 50,000-75,000 applicants. It does matter.

Test optional is an other reason these kids are now applying to so many schools too (minus Gtown of couse which isn't TO). A kid that had a 1200 SAT (which was like a 1080 back in the late 80s) would not bother applying to any Ivies--even with a 4.0. Now kids just don't send the scores and VIOLA! you get huge numbers. The screening/cutoff isn't there.

It has adapted. With the deemphasized on test scores and other achievement metrics, the most accomplished applicants cannot be assumed to be the most deserving of admission. Rather than seeking students with the most distinguished academic records, a school might seek those who best represent the state from a demographic perspective or those that will benefit most from the curriculum.

Yeah, but I suspect that is changing as schools have learned that an A from Podunk HS is not the same as an A from other schools it may know better. Colleges and universities have had to invest millions in remedial classes and tutoring for “straight A” kids, TO, who were just passed through. It’s maddening. Then these kids, with excessive extra help, will graduate from top schools. Some will have flourished, learned how to study, worked hard and really be just as meritorious as the kids who went to top rated high schools and killed testing as well. But there will be others that just don’t measure up. That will become the employer’s problem. It’s really not fair. I expect to see more colleges and universities revoke TO, just as MIT did.

Don't make TO the boogeyman. Standardized testing isn’t all what it's purported to be. Only 40% or so are even submitting tests. And the ones claiming 1500+ scores? They are still getting rejected at top colleges. It's a lottery. Deal with it.

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Fordham is a good bet, OP.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is crushed. Trying to regroup. Ideas. Thoughts.

Forget Georgetown. Apply to St Mary’s across the street from Notre Dame. Do well and transfer to ND.

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Anonymous wrote:Duke, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Boston College, Villanova, Holy Cross, U Virginia, WashUStL, Wake Forest University, Tufts, SMU.

Several LACs offer ED 2.

Davidson College in North Carolina.

OP: It's difficult to refocus after having one's heart set on two outstanding schools, but disappointment is a part of life that often leads one to a better place.

Largely agree save Duke, Northwestern. Why?

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Anonymous wrote:The obvious: BC, Villanova, Santa Clara, safety Holy Cross. But you must have considered all these?

Holy Cross a safety? Hardly.

+1 Villanova is the safety on that list.

Villanova is not a safety. They have a 20% acceptance rate.

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Anonymous wrote:The obvious: BC, Villanova, Santa Clara, safety Holy Cross. But you must have considered all these?

Holy Cross a safety? Hardly.

+1 Villanova is the safety on that list.

My 4.4/1520/500+ hours of community service kid (plus a million other ECs and such) got rejected from Villanova today. I wouldn't call it a safety.

Public school

Non Catholic?

Public school. We are Catholic, but I don't think it really came through in the application. He was not an altar boy or anything like that.

He'll move on and already has some good choices but it was a disappointment. Not least because a kid with far inferior stats (but legacy) was admitted and the kid & parents have been blowing up social media about it.

What is wrong with people on here? Why do you feel the need to tear down this other kid? It's unkind and unnecessary. And not terribly consistent with Catholic values.

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Anonymous wrote:The obvious: BC, Villanova, Santa Clara, safety Holy Cross. But you must have considered all these?

Holy Cross a safety? Hardly.

+1 Villanova is the safety on that list.

Villanova is not a safety. They have a 20% acceptance rate.

True. St. Joe’s would be a safety for someone who thinks they want Villanova.

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Anonymous wrote:The obvious: BC, Villanova, Santa Clara, safety Holy Cross. But you must have considered all these?

Holy Cross a safety? Hardly.

My kid is at a Jesuit high school where lots of kids go on to these colleges. Holy Cross accepts 100% of the kids who applied. The scattergram is literally filled with green circles. So that's what I based my recommendation on. Villanova is a much harder admit. Of course, I don't know OP's kid's info.

Are you guys talking about Holy Cross in Indiana near Notre Dame or College of the Holy Cross in Mass? The one in Mass is pretty hard to get into these days. The one in Indiana is not.

The one in Indiana has a guaranteed transfer program with ND.

But that guaranteed transfer program - the Gateway Program - is offered only to ND applicants. An applicant cannot apply to Holy Cross for the Gateway Program. https://admissions.nd.edu/gateway-program/overview/

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Just move on

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Anonymous wrote:Michigan State, Indiana, Syracuse,
Reaches - UVA & UNC Chapel Hill

Those aren't very Catholic...

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Anonymous wrote:We toured Georgetown last Spring. Did the big group conference in the hall and then broke into groups for the campus tour.

My DS was literally 1 of 6 cis white males out of the entire group of about 100 prospects. The vast majority of the others were Asian and Indian males. Girls were barely represented.

He didn't even apply. He is high stats, his mom is an undegrad and grad school alum, and his grandfather taught there for two decades.

It isn't what it used to be.

Georgetown is also no longer Catholic for the most part.