up and coming schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My neighbor is staff at a popular, local, private uni.
They just had a “Come to Jesus” mtg about 20% of student body is failing to thrive. In others words, they can’t hack college. It seems to stem from TO admissions and how not everyone is cut out for college.

I just had this same conversation!
That they need to bring back standardized tests b/c they have found that there is so much grade inflation that students really have not mastered basic aspects of academics for them to be successful in college.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My neighbor is staff at a popular, local, private uni.
They just had a “Come to Jesus” mtg about 20% of student body is failing to thrive. In others words, they can’t hack college. It seems to stem from TO admissions and how not everyone is cut out for college.

This seems suss. I teach at a uni with students who struggle. The problem is writing skills, not testing. Your post reads like cheap propaganda.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My neighbor is staff at a popular, local, private uni.
They just had a “Come to Jesus” mtg about 20% of student body is failing to thrive. In others words, they can’t hack college. It seems to stem from TO admissions and how not everyone is cut out for college.

I just had this same conversation!
That they need to bring back standardized tests b/c they have found that there is so much grade inflation that students really have not mastered basic aspects of academics for them to be successful in college.

No, they need research and writing skills preliminary courses. Testing doesn't measure that.

So tired of the testing lobby on this board. Test well? Great. Submit that. You do you, but don't try to force everyone else on your narrow track. Testing, while it may give some insight, doesn't measure student potential.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Minnesota. It’s the next big rolling admissions school. And they actually want DMV students.

It’s funny, just asked my sister in MN about Minnesota and she thinks it is a fairly depressing college experience. Urban campus that is somewhat broken up with lots of commuters.

I get that kids don’t want to go to college near home, but her suburban HS seems to send way fewer kids nor is thought the same way as UMD for Bethesda/DC kids.

A lot of WI kids that don't get into UW Madison go to U MN because of in-state reciprocal tuition agreements. And the top Minnesota students are more likely to then go to UW Madison because it's also "in-state" but perceived as better and more fun. And some who don't get into Madison will even choose a different UW just to get away from home. But UMN is changing -- attracting more OOS beyond WI, and falling into the category of a flagship in an urban area that is becoming more popular. Immigration has made the state more diverse which opens up the range of people who think the city is a good fit for them. Usually locals are less alert to these kinds of shifts as they hold a dated view of their school based on their time there (e.g., GMU, UMD, UMBC).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My neighbor is staff at a popular, local, private uni.
They just had a “Come to Jesus” mtg about 20% of student body is failing to thrive. In others words, they can’t hack college. It seems to stem from TO admissions and how not everyone is cut out for college.

I just had this same conversation!
That they need to bring back standardized tests b/c they have found that there is so much grade inflation that students really have not mastered basic aspects of academics for them to be successful in college.

say the name or it didn’t happen. Some of the toughest schools to get into like a Harvard become easier than HS because once you are in they do all they can to help you graduate. Look I get it my kid kid scored well o. SAT and now with TO is harder to get into a Harvard esp unhooked and not a URM but geez no need to make up stories.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No school in a red state can be up and coming

Look at Florida. DeSantis removed the President and installed a nut case. UF is no longer a great University.

They are going to bring religious indoctrination and remove science who thinks these schools will stay good? No one with a brain.

UF is a top 30 school and hard to get into. They also ask for scores which I respect.

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Anonymous wrote:High point-This is a school that really prepares kids for actionable careers. A friend sent their kid there and loved their experience.

The glossy brochures & catalogs they send us endlessly look cultish. Can’t even recycle as they are covered in plastic.

What does cultish mean?

Perhaps I'm mistaken, but think I saw a clip where applicants gather in an auditorium and all find out simultaneously they have been admitted. And I thought "cult" when I saw it.

I think you are mistaken. A few people on this forum hate on High Point. I have no idea why. If we could have afforded it for ADHD DD we would have but it was just not doable for us (no merit; no financial aid). It's a superb school for kids who need extra supports. Force anyone who says anything negative about it to prove their point. They usually can't.

This is a backhanded insult.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My neighbor is staff at a popular, local, private uni.
They just had a “Come to Jesus” mtg about 20% of student body is failing to thrive. In others words, they can’t hack college. It seems to stem from TO admissions and how not everyone is cut out for college.

I just had this same conversation!
That they need to bring back standardized tests b/c they have found that there is so much grade inflation that students really have not mastered basic aspects of academics for them to be successful in college.

No, they need research and writing skills preliminary courses. Testing doesn't measure that.

So tired of the testing lobby on this board. Test well? Great. Submit that. You do you, but don't try to force everyone else on your narrow track. Testing, while it may give some insight, doesn't measure student potential.

I have a kid with great test scores who failed to thrive in college. I'm tired of "some kids just aren't cut out for college" or TO being offered as the reason college students are struggling. I wish I understood it completely, but some kids just changed during the pandemic. Kids are less connected and more anxious, which makes them less motivated. I don't think this is about test optional or kids not being cut out for college. I wish I knew how to fix the problem.

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Anonymous wrote:Would Jmu, Gmu, or VT be considered up an coming?

JMU and GMU yes.

Are they, though? They both seem kind of plateaued to me. I mean, they're both great options for what they are, but I don't see either currently evolving into a different-level place. Of the three, I'd say VT actually is the most likely "comer."

Agree with PP. JMU peaked in the early-mid 90's (acceptance rate was low 30%) and Tech was considered a safety in-state. The tide has turned and JMU is now considered the safety.

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I'm not hearing as much about Northeastern this year. Did it peak?

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Anonymous wrote:CU Boulder because of Prime!

He took them from last place in the Pac-12 to last place in the Pac-12 but with a lot of fancy jewelry.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My neighbor is staff at a popular, local, private uni.
They just had a “Come to Jesus” mtg about 20% of student body is failing to thrive. In others words, they can’t hack college. It seems to stem from TO admissions and how not everyone is cut out for college.

I just had this same conversation!
That they need to bring back standardized tests b/c they have found that there is so much grade inflation that students really have not mastered basic aspects of academics for them to be successful in college.

Neither the SAT nor ACT is an indicator for who is successful in college. Jesus. It's one test and is reflective of many factors.

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Anonymous wrote:People who are impressed with places like Wooster and Lawrence and Muhlenberg do not have experience with top 10-15 LACs. They are fine schools but they just do not provide the same experience.

I don't understand why you feel compelled to share this opinion, but it just makes you look like a horrendous snob who doesn't know much about American SLACs.

Why are you so mean-spirited? Why can only one truth exist in your fluffy little head at a time?

+ a million. But people like this cannot understand what a DBag they are saying stuff like this.

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Real life is not about college. It's actually not about degrees either. I mean it is if you wanted to get into a particular law/MBA/MD program but for the most part, even if you didn't graduate from the "best college" in these areas, you can actually still be damn successful and great at what you do.

Real life is about how well you do in your career (competence), how many people appreciate/like you (social/soft skills) and how well you are able to become visible/high profile in your industry (ambition).

NO college can measure this long term because people change over time and because no test can measure holistically, the total sum of a person.

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I wish our high school's profile included information about how there are no test corrections, etc. Some of the high schools now are really out there.