FBI HQ in PG!

[Anonymous]

Mount Rainier is great!

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Anonymous wrote:There will still be a smaller contingent in DC and Redstone Arsenal. In fact most of the functions moved in 10-15 years, if this actually happens will be more admin type, finance, IT. This will affect hiring.

No everyone won’t metro to Greenbelt. That’s wishful thinking. Even if everyone did people will just stay inside the building and then clog traffic in all directions. Infrastructure should have been part of the discussion.

Wait till DC gets into the fight about losing all these workers that were supposed to save the economy.

Yes Greenbelt will get an FBI building but it’s not going to be the entire FBI. Yes there will be a slight bump in housing values but the idea this is going to save Greenbelt. Ha that’s funny.

DC has the universities to employ the DC residents, for better or for worse.

But I do agree that Maryland needs a bridge or two, because I do not foresee current FBI employees moving to Maryland. The lack of bridges should tell you something about the mismanagement in Maryland.

Also, other PP - don't worry about interaction with Langley. Not an issue.

My suspicion is that MD will use the FBI site selection as a rationale to request federal transportation funds to cover the additional infrastructure costs. They did the same for the consolidation of Walter Reed at NAV Bethesda, but this is going to be significantly larger scale. A lot of articles coming out lately about budget shortfalls, including in the transportation trust fund because MD has decided to siphon those funds off to pay for the Purple Line.

Metro has floated the idea of a connection across the Potomac at the Wilson Bridge area. But to handle the increase in traffic, the Wilson Bridge will need expanding. That will cost $1b+. There's no way that Greenbelt is better economically than the Springfield site.

The "new" Wilson Bridge was built specifically to handle metro. I am seriously suprised to see this.

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Anonymous wrote:They should have made the location contingent on infrastructure improvements by Maryland. A new American Legion bridge, a new river crossing at route 28, and the continuation of 495 express lanes to 95.

I do wish Maryland invested more in realistic transportation. I moved from Fairfax co to MD and I'm so envious of all the added lanes to 495, 66, and 95 in VA. I frequently drive with my kids with me, so personally I love the HOT lanes.

The areas around tysons and the like 20 lanes of traffic is an absolute hellscape.

That is literally what I think ("omg this is HELL") every time I drive there, which fortunately I don't have to do very often. As a Marylander, I sincerely hope we're not going to emulate Virginia's example.

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Anonymous wrote:They should have made the location contingent on infrastructure improvements by Maryland. A new American Legion bridge, a new river crossing at route 28, and the continuation of 495 express lanes to 95.

I do wish Maryland invested more in realistic transportation. I moved from Fairfax co to MD and I'm so envious of all the added lanes to 495, 66, and 95 in VA. I frequently drive with my kids with me, so personally I love the HOT lanes.

The areas around tysons and the like 20 lanes of traffic is an absolute hellscape.

That is literally what I think ("omg this is HELL") every time I drive there, which fortunately I don't have to do very often. As a Marylander, I sincerely hope we're not going to emulate Virginia's example.

+1 I'm originally from SoCal, and that area reminds of the concrete jungles of LA, including their horrific traffic. No thanks. I get recruiters calling me for jobs in Tysons, and I immediately say, "No, thank you".

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Anonymous wrote:They should have made the location contingent on infrastructure improvements by Maryland. A new American Legion bridge, a new river crossing at route 28, and the continuation of 495 express lanes to 95.

I do wish Maryland invested more in realistic transportation. I moved from Fairfax co to MD and I'm so envious of all the added lanes to 495, 66, and 95 in VA. I frequently drive with my kids with me, so personally I love the HOT lanes.

The areas around tysons and the like 20 lanes of traffic is an absolute hellscape.

That is literally what I think ("omg this is HELL") every time I drive there, which fortunately I don't have to do very often. As a Marylander, I sincerely hope we're not going to emulate Virginia's example.

Yes. Jobs and economic development are bad things.

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Anonymous wrote:They should have made the location contingent on infrastructure improvements by Maryland. A new American Legion bridge, a new river crossing at route 28, and the continuation of 495 express lanes to 95.

I do wish Maryland invested more in realistic transportation. I moved from Fairfax co to MD and I'm so envious of all the added lanes to 495, 66, and 95 in VA. I frequently drive with my kids with me, so personally I love the HOT lanes.

The areas around tysons and the like 20 lanes of traffic is an absolute hellscape.

That is literally what I think ("omg this is HELL") every time I drive there, which fortunately I don't have to do very often. As a Marylander, I sincerely hope we're not going to emulate Virginia's example.

Yes. Jobs and economic development are bad things.

I'm the CA poster. Be careful what you wish for. Over development is not as great as you think. It leads to higher home prices and hellish commute for everyone. You may like high home prices as a seller, but not if you are trying to buy, especially for younger families. FBI agents tend to be younger (retirement age is like 55 or something). These folks aren't going to be able to afford a nice home on a government salary if the home prices are high.

I witnessed the unfettered grown in parts of CA, and it was not good. I'm glad I got out, even as the house I sold has pretty much doubled since I moved out 10 years ago. The little bungalow is now worth $2mil. Do you think FBI agents can afford that price for a tiny home?

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Anonymous wrote:Feel bad for the largely white FBI that won't be living in PG County

Why? They don't live in DC either, the current FBI location.

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Anonymous wrote:They should have made the location contingent on infrastructure improvements by Maryland. A new American Legion bridge, a new river crossing at route 28, and the continuation of 495 express lanes to 95.

I do wish Maryland invested more in realistic transportation. I moved from Fairfax co to MD and I'm so envious of all the added lanes to 495, 66, and 95 in VA. I frequently drive with my kids with me, so personally I love the HOT lanes.

The areas around tysons and the like 20 lanes of traffic is an absolute hellscape.

That is literally what I think ("omg this is HELL") every time I drive there, which fortunately I don't have to do very often. As a Marylander, I sincerely hope we're not going to emulate Virginia's example.

Yes. Jobs and economic development are bad things.

That depends, doesn't it? If you're the highway construction industry, then highway construction is great (until the project is over). It's terrible for almost everyone else, though. A huge net negative for society, the economy, and the environment.

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Anonymous wrote:They should have made the location contingent on infrastructure improvements by Maryland. A new American Legion bridge, a new river crossing at route 28, and the continuation of 495 express lanes to 95.

I do wish Maryland invested more in realistic transportation. I moved from Fairfax co to MD and I'm so envious of all the added lanes to 495, 66, and 95 in VA. I frequently drive with my kids with me, so personally I love the HOT lanes.

The areas around tysons and the like 20 lanes of traffic is an absolute hellscape.

That is literally what I think ("omg this is HELL") every time I drive there, which fortunately I don't have to do very often. As a Marylander, I sincerely hope we're not going to emulate Virginia's example.

Even on your best day, you'll not emulate Virginia's examples. Just facts.

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Anonymous wrote:They should have made the location contingent on infrastructure improvements by Maryland. A new American Legion bridge, a new river crossing at route 28, and the continuation of 495 express lanes to 95.

I do wish Maryland invested more in realistic transportation. I moved from Fairfax co to MD and I'm so envious of all the added lanes to 495, 66, and 95 in VA. I frequently drive with my kids with me, so personally I love the HOT lanes.

The areas around tysons and the like 20 lanes of traffic is an absolute hellscape.

That is literally what I think ("omg this is HELL") every time I drive there, which fortunately I don't have to do very often. As a Marylander, I sincerely hope we're not going to emulate Virginia's example.

Even on your best day, you'll not emulate Virginia's examples. Just facts.

ya'll voted for Youngkin. We don't ever want to emulate that.

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The Post's latest story, with FBI Director going public with his opposition, particularly criticism of a compromised process, is significant news. It is concerning that the GSA official who overruled the unanimous scoring of the site selection committee in favor of a Metro-owned site, had previously worked for Metro. The FBI move could become as big a headache for the Biden administration as it was under Trump (for different reasons).

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The FBI will never end up in PG. I promise you that. I can't say why.... but just watch.

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Anonymous wrote:Greenbelt is nice and if FBI staff don't want to live there Montgomery county and Anne Arundel county are nearby. Such drama queens on this board.

Perhaps the employees already own homes, have children in school, and/or spouses with their own commutes. “Just move to Anne Arundel” isn’t helpful.

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It's fine. The FBI has years to plot its revenge, by becoming the corruption proctologists for the PG County government and looking closely at the business affairs of every major contributor to Steny Hoyer and the current MD governor.

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Anonymous wrote:Greenbelt is nice and if FBI staff don't want to live there Montgomery county and Anne Arundel county are nearby. Such drama queens on this board.

Perhaps the employees already own homes, have children in school, and/or spouses with their own commutes. “Just move to Anne Arundel” isn’t helpful.

This is a move that is probably a decade away. That’s more than enough planning time for employees.