Are we at the nascent stages of WWIII?

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Anonymous wrote:All I know is my MAGA family are all blaming Biden and I honesty don't understand what they think Trump would have or could have done? Other than hand over Ukraine to Russia, that is clear, and I guess they would have wanted that?

MAGA types here, what's your take?


You wouldn't have the problem with Trump in the first place. He's the boorish bully you hate, but when facing the Ayatollah, Hezbollah, Putin and Xi, that's the language they understand. I get you don't like strongmen.

They did not challenge him because he threatened and was unpredictable. The leader of North Korea says 'he has a button'. Trump retorts back, 'I do too, but mine is bigger. ' No problems after that.

Trump told the Iranians that if they responded to him killing Soleimani, he would bomb their ports and their military bases. No problems after that.

Russia took their cues from the failed withdrawal in Afghanistan and went right into Ukraine.

China - a very public story of Xi at the White House with a "beautiful chocolate cake" right as Trump OK'd missiles killing fighters in Syria. Go look it up.

You don't like strongmen. What have we got now, but turmoil everywhere? This was preventable.

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Anonymous wrote:All I know is my MAGA family are all blaming Biden and I honesty don't understand what they think Trump would have or could have done? Other than hand over Ukraine to Russia, that is clear, and I guess they would have wanted that?

MAGA types here, what's your take?


Ummm, yeah thats simple. None of this would have happened under Trump, thats what happens when you have a strong leader. Inflation wouldnt have spiked to levels we havent seen in 40 years, mortgages wouldnt be at 7.5 percent, and gas certainly wouldnt be over 4 dollars a gallon.

But those mean tweets about Rosie Odonnell


Erm, yes all of that would have happened, and probably worse because he would have tried to lower taxes further. I see you're out of touch with reality, nor the fact that the US management of post pandemic inflation has been better than other developed countries and jobless rate is the lowest in the past century.

So remind me what Trump would have done besides tweeting from the pooper with his boxes of classified docs?


Are we better off than we were in 2020?


DP. Actually yeah. We are definitely better off than in 2020. The country is back open. International and national travel is up. The GDP is greater. We are out of a 20. Year war albeit we seem to be heading into a new one. Housing is still strong. Unemployment is lower for all demographics. Stock market, 401k, pensions and IRA’s are steady. The protesting in the streets have been abated. Democracy seems to be winning over authoritarianism.


Is it truly better for every rung in society? Are homes more affordable for young people without parental help? Are blue-collar workers better off today? Can they raise a family above subsistence living? Has the middle class expanded?
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Anonymous wrote:Illegal immigration is very easy to fix. Send employers hiring undocumented workers to prison for a couple of years and fine them a large amount. Companies will stop hiring them. If there are no jobs, they will not come here.


Some of them aren’t coming for jobs but get sponsorships and social services from the city . Ask New Yorkers about the migrants who don’t work but somehow have scooters and IPhone 15’s
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Anonymous wrote:I’m starting to believe everyone is bored and just waiting breathlessly for disasters.


+1

And we've been hearing for years about how young men are so lost, can't find their place in the world, can't find jobs/partners, don't know what it means "to be a man" anymore. I'm certainly not hoping for any war, let alone a world-wide one, but it's not hard to see how a big war is both a natural consequence of that and a solution to it.
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War is inevitable. Prepare your children for combat roles.
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I feel like a lot hinges on Iran. I really wish the US and some allies could just get it over with and topple that regime. It's what Iranians want. If they could elect a secular government, it would change so much in that part of the world.


Ah, the arrogance of Americans. We always think we can just topple regimes like they’re a bunch of little kids.



Iranians have been trying to topple their own regime for decades. The rest of the world can help, and it would go a long way toward stabilizing a huge part of the world.


The Shah’s family would like to have a word.


the shah? umm the shah was a US puppet that was installed to keep Iranian oil cheap for British Petroleum. Iran had an elected parliamentary system that was dismantled by the USA, the actual beef with Israel is not religious, it was b/c Israel did the US a favor by supporting the Shah puppet regime that was a monarchy that was forced by the west on the Persians. It was in the interest f both turkey and Iran to have good ties with Israel, the turks actually managed to keep the good ties until the 2nd intifada when there was too much anti-israel sentiment that was harnessed by Erdogan. Anyways teh pahlavis have never been legitimate governors of Iran.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m starting to believe everyone is bored and just waiting breathlessly for disasters.


+1

And we've been hearing for years about how young men are so lost, can't find their place in the world, can't find jobs/partners, don't know what it means "to be a man" anymore. I'm certainly not hoping for any war, let alone a world-wide one, but it's not hard to see how a big war is both a natural consequence of that and a solution to it.


Right. But none would actually fight. They only cosplay. They’re the biggest whiners around.
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Anonymous wrote:Illegal immigration is very easy to fix. Send employers hiring undocumented workers to prison for a couple of years and fine them a large amount. Companies will stop hiring them. If there are no jobs, they will not come here.


You have to pair that with disincentives for people coming here.



They come here to work and earn money. No job, no money, no come. Very simple.
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Anonymous wrote:Maybe.
I feel like a lot hinges on Iran. I really wish the US and some allies could just get it over with and topple that regime. It's what Iranians want. If they could elect a secular government, it would change so much in that part of the world.


Ah, the arrogance of Americans. We always think we can just topple regimes like they’re a bunch of little kids.



Iranians have been trying to topple their own regime for decades. The rest of the world can help, and it would go a long way toward stabilizing a huge part of the world.


The Shah’s family would like to have a word.


the shah? umm the shah was a US puppet that was installed to keep Iranian oil cheap for British Petroleum. Iran had an elected parliamentary system that was dismantled by the USA, the actual beef with Israel is not religious, it was b/c Israel did the US a favor by supporting the Shah puppet regime that was a monarchy that was forced by the west on the Persians. It was in the interest f both turkey and Iran to have good ties with Israel, the turks actually managed to keep the good ties until the 2nd intifada when there was too much anti-israel sentiment that was harnessed by Erdogan. Anyways teh pahlavis have never been legitimate governors of Iran.


Ummm … if you look upthread, the poster was suggesting we do something (eg, install someone) … kinda like the shah. We all know that didn’t work and some of us personally know people who were there when the shah’s regime fell.
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Anonymous wrote:All I know is my MAGA family are all blaming Biden and I honesty don't understand what they think Trump would have or could have done? Other than hand over Ukraine to Russia, that is clear, and I guess they would have wanted that?

MAGA types here, what's your take?


Ummm, yeah thats simple. None of this would have happened under Trump, thats what happens when you have a strong leader. Inflation wouldnt have spiked to levels we havent seen in 40 years, mortgages wouldnt be at 7.5 percent, and gas certainly wouldnt be over 4 dollars a gallon.

But those mean tweets about Rosie Odonnell


Erm, yes all of that would have happened, and probably worse because he would have tried to lower taxes further. I see you're out of touch with reality, nor the fact that the US management of post pandemic inflation has been better than other developed countries and jobless rate is the lowest in the past century.

So remind me what Trump would have done besides tweeting from the pooper with his boxes of classified docs?


Are we better off than we were in 2020?


DP. Actually yeah. We are definitely better off than in 2020. The country is back open. International and national travel is up. The GDP is greater. We are out of a 20. Year war albeit we seem to be heading into a new one. Housing is still strong. Unemployment is lower for all demographics. Stock market, 401k, pensions and IRA’s are steady. The protesting in the streets have been abated. Democracy seems to be winning over authoritarianism.


Interesting take. Inflation hurting everyone, crime up, wide open southern border, education system broken, etc, would say the bad news outweighs the good news by at least a 2 to 1 margin.
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Anonymous wrote:All I know is my MAGA family are all blaming Biden and I honesty don't understand what they think Trump would have or could have done? Other than hand over Ukraine to Russia, that is clear, and I guess they would have wanted that?

MAGA types here, what's your take?


Ummm, yeah thats simple. None of this would have happened under Trump, thats what happens when you have a strong leader. Inflation wouldnt have spiked to levels we havent seen in 40 years, mortgages wouldnt be at 7.5 percent, and gas certainly wouldnt be over 4 dollars a gallon.

But those mean tweets about Rosie Odonnell


Erm, yes all of that would have happened, and probably worse because he would have tried to lower taxes further. I see you're out of touch with reality, nor the fact that the US management of post pandemic inflation has been better than other developed countries and jobless rate is the lowest in the past century.

So remind me what Trump would have done besides tweeting from the pooper with his boxes of classified docs?


Are we better off than we were in 2020?


DP. Actually yeah. We are definitely better off than in 2020. The country is back open. International and national travel is up. The GDP is greater. We are out of a 20. Year war albeit we seem to be heading into a new one. Housing is still strong. Unemployment is lower for all demographics. Stock market, 401k, pensions and IRA’s are steady. The protesting in the streets have been abated. Democracy seems to be winning over authoritarianism.


Interesting take. Inflation hurting everyone, crime up, wide open southern border, education system broken, etc, would say the bad news outweighs the good news by at least a 2 to 1 margin.


No, we have to ignore all those things. Keep up with the approved narrative.
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Anonymous wrote:All I know is my MAGA family are all blaming Biden and I honesty don't understand what they think Trump would have or could have done? Other than hand over Ukraine to Russia, that is clear, and I guess they would have wanted that?

MAGA types here, what's your take?


Ummm, yeah thats simple. None of this would have happened under Trump, thats what happens when you have a strong leader. Inflation wouldnt have spiked to levels we havent seen in 40 years, mortgages wouldnt be at 7.5 percent, and gas certainly wouldnt be over 4 dollars a gallon.

But those mean tweets about Rosie Odonnell


Erm, yes all of that would have happened, and probably worse because he would have tried to lower taxes further. I see you're out of touch with reality, nor the fact that the US management of post pandemic inflation has been better than other developed countries and jobless rate is the lowest in the past century.

So remind me what Trump would have done besides tweeting from the pooper with his boxes of classified docs?


Are we better off than we were in 2020?


DP. Actually yeah. We are definitely better off than in 2020. The country is back open. International and national travel is up. The GDP is greater. We are out of a 20. Year war albeit we seem to be heading into a new one. Housing is still strong. Unemployment is lower for all demographics. Stock market, 401k, pensions and IRA’s are steady. The protesting in the streets have been abated. Democracy seems to be winning over authoritarianism.


Is it truly better for every rung in society? Are homes more affordable for young people without parental help? Are blue-collar workers better off today? Can they raise a family above subsistence living? Has the middle class expanded?


Never, in the history of the world, and even less America, has there been equality among the varying rungs of society. Stop with your nonsensical ramblings.
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Anonymous wrote:All I know is my MAGA family are all blaming Biden and I honesty don't understand what they think Trump would have or could have done? Other than hand over Ukraine to Russia, that is clear, and I guess they would have wanted that?

MAGA types here, what's your take?


Ummm, yeah thats simple. None of this would have happened under Trump, thats what happens when you have a strong leader. Inflation wouldnt have spiked to levels we havent seen in 40 years, mortgages wouldnt be at 7.5 percent, and gas certainly wouldnt be over 4 dollars a gallon.

But those mean tweets about Rosie Odonnell


Erm, yes all of that would have happened, and probably worse because he would have tried to lower taxes further. I see you're out of touch with reality, nor the fact that the US management of post pandemic inflation has been better than other developed countries and jobless rate is the lowest in the past century.

So remind me what Trump would have done besides tweeting from the pooper with his boxes of classified docs?


Are we better off than we were in 2020?


DP. Actually yeah. We are definitely better off than in 2020. The country is back open. International and national travel is up. The GDP is greater. We are out of a 20. Year war albeit we seem to be heading into a new one. Housing is still strong. Unemployment is lower for all demographics. Stock market, 401k, pensions and IRA’s are steady. The protesting in the streets have been abated. Democracy seems to be winning over authoritarianism.


Interesting take. Inflation hurting everyone, crime up, wide open southern border, education system broken, etc, would say the bad news outweighs the good news by at least a 2 to 1 margin.


That border has been opened sense well before Reagan gave the first amnesty because there were too many illegal immigrants to round up and deport. Nothing's changed since then except more coverage. Once he gave that amnesty, more and more have been arriving each and every year.

What is different about the education system than what was happening in 2017. I mean the MLM heiress Devos is gone and her biases against IEP and the students who required them.

Crime is cyclical. It was bad in 2017. I will never forget the colleague who was robbed at gunpoint by a bunch of pre-teenage girls. Crime did not just start in 2021, and if you think so you've been an ostrich with her head in the sand. Pull the Washington Post archives and read how bad crime was pre-2021. It was bad then and it is still bad today.

Inflation is not hurting everyone. You must be mighty young and have not lived through 18% mortgage rates and 25% credit card rates. The last ten plus years the government was giving money away and everybody thought the money would always be free. Unfortunately, people living on fixed income and retirement bonds suffered because of lack of growth with less than 1% interest on their savings.
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Anonymous wrote:All I know is my MAGA family are all blaming Biden and I honesty don't understand what they think Trump would have or could have done? Other than hand over Ukraine to Russia, that is clear, and I guess they would have wanted that?

MAGA types here, what's your take?


Ummm, yeah thats simple. None of this would have happened under Trump, thats what happens when you have a strong leader. Inflation wouldnt have spiked to levels we havent seen in 40 years, mortgages wouldnt be at 7.5 percent, and gas certainly wouldnt be over 4 dollars a gallon.

But those mean tweets about Rosie Odonnell


Erm, yes all of that would have happened, and probably worse because he would have tried to lower taxes further. I see you're out of touch with reality, nor the fact that the US management of post pandemic inflation has been better than other developed countries and jobless rate is the lowest in the past century.

So remind me what Trump would have done besides tweeting from the pooper with his boxes of classified docs?


Are we better off than we were in 2020?


DP. Actually yeah. We are definitely better off than in 2020. The country is back open. International and national travel is up. The GDP is greater. We are out of a 20. Year war albeit we seem to be heading into a new one. Housing is still strong. Unemployment is lower for all demographics. Stock market, 401k, pensions and IRA’s are steady. The protesting in the streets have been abated. Democracy seems to be winning over authoritarianism.


Interesting take. Inflation hurting everyone, crime up, wide open southern border, education system broken, etc, would say the bad news outweighs the good news by at least a 2 to 1 margin.


No, we have to ignore all those things. Keep up with the approved narrative.


No, you don't have to ignore. You just don't need to lie and exxagerrate.
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US just gave China a redline on Philippines after a near collision. US warned them to back-off. China is pushing the limits to see what will be the USA's breaking point. And yes China does have a navy. Hm, too many fronts at one time.
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