2024 US News rankings

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Anonymous wrote:Thoughts about W&M dropping?

It’s the most expensive public college in the nation for in state students. 60k for OOS as a public with minimal OOS aid. And it’s not particularly diverse or socially mobile (I mean, #280 in social mobility for a public). And it doesn’t have a lot of pell grant kids. IOW, it may be public, but it’s still a rich kids school (or UMC DCUM school). Wonky rich kids from wealthier areas of VA. But, affluent all the same. It was never going to do well under the new DEI formulation.

It’s ranked 6th in undergrad teaching, which is what I care about.

—parent of a WM kid.

But colleges have no say in how many Pell grant kids they take. That is determined after admissions. USNWR needs to change that criterion because it rewards states with poorer populations like Ca over more Econ friendly states like VA

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How does DCUM feel about Chicago being out of the top 10 in all major US rankings now (USNWR, WSJ, Forbes)? It has been a magnet for DC area students, especially from particular private schools where a number of kids were applying ED2.

Does it make applying ED2 to Hopkins looks a little better now?

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Anonymous wrote:UC Davis is very hot. I get that the DCUM crowd isn't aware, but it's a very good school.

Now that’s a mystery. I’m from so Cal. You didn’t go there unless you had no other options

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Anonymous wrote:How does DCUM feel about Chicago being out of the top 10 in all major US rankings now (USNWR, WSJ, Forbes)? It has been a magnet for DC area students, especially from particular private schools where a number of kids were applying ED2.

Does it make applying ED2 to Hopkins looks a little better now?

Ranking changes do not change actual prestige. The tail does not wag the dog. US News is getting sillier and sillier.

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Anonymous wrote:UC Davis is very hot. I get that the DCUM crowd isn't aware, but it's a very good school.

Someone is apparently very triggered that their kid at Emory might get their finance jobs taken from Davis students.

Except that Davis students won't be swooping in to take internships from Emory students due to US News rankings changes. The ranking has gotten further and further from reflecting prestige in the employment world.

I thought that’s what the WSJ rankings attempted to capture. Not sure how either school did on that. I know Babson did well.

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Anonymous wrote:UC Davis is very hot. I get that the DCUM crowd isn't aware, but it's a very good school.

Someone is apparently very triggered that their kid at Emory might get their finance jobs taken from Davis students.

What a joke!

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Anonymous wrote:How does DCUM feel about Chicago being out of the top 10 in all major US rankings now (USNWR, WSJ, Forbes)? It has been a magnet for DC area students, especially from particular private schools where a number of kids were applying ED2.

Does it make applying ED2 to Hopkins looks a little better now?

Chicago and Hopkins are still equivalent to me. We all know the rankings will change again in 12 months.

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Anonymous wrote:Thoughts about W&M dropping?

It’s the most expensive public college in the nation for in state students. 60k for OOS as a public with minimal OOS aid. And it’s not particularly diverse or socially mobile (I mean, #280 in social mobility for a public). And it doesn’t have a lot of pell grant kids. IOW, it may be public, but it’s still a rich kids school (or UMC DCUM school). Wonky rich kids from wealthier areas of VA. But, affluent all the same. It was never going to do well under the new DEI formulation.

It’s ranked 6th in undergrad teaching, which is what I care about.

—parent of a WM kid.

DP. I think it's been falling in desirability for a very long time and the rankings are starting to reflect that.

I strongly disagree and think W&M is a great value (I have no affiliation with it). It’s getting unfairly assess because of usnwr’s focus on Pell grants, which the va universities have no control over in admissions

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Anonymous wrote:How does DCUM feel about Chicago being out of the top 10 in all major US rankings now (USNWR, WSJ, Forbes)? It has been a magnet for DC area students, especially from particular private schools where a number of kids were applying ED2.

Does it make applying ED2 to Hopkins looks a little better now?

Ranking changes do not change actual prestige. The tail does not wag the dog. US News is getting sillier and sillier.

Maybe not among the Ivies - but of course the rankings affect the perceived prestige of all the others.

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There have to be some happy Cornell alums around (Andy Bernard is messaging his friends). They are typically not the lowest Ivy in rankings beyond USNWR and they slid in well above Dartmouth here too.

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Anonymous wrote:UC Davis is very hot. I get that the DCUM crowd isn't aware, but it's a very good school.

Now that’s a mystery. I’m from so Cal. You didn’t go there unless you had no other options

you mean back in our day? yeah. but in last 10 years, it's totally different.

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Anonymous wrote:There have to be some happy Cornell alums around (Andy Bernard is messaging his friends). They are typically not the lowest Ivy in rankings beyond USNWR and they slid in well above Dartmouth here too.

I'm so over Dartmouth so this makes me happy. I just dont like the smug dean of admissions there and his podcast. So, yeah, I'm projecting

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UC Davis is very hot. I get that the DCUM crowd isn't aware, but it's a very good school.

Someone is apparently very triggered that their kid at Emory might get their finance jobs taken from Davis students.

Except that Davis students won't be swooping in to take internships from Emory students due to US News rankings changes. The ranking has gotten further and further from reflecting prestige in the employment world.

I thought that’s what the WSJ rankings attempted to capture. Not sure how either school did on that. I know Babson did well.

WSj was a fraudulent ranking exercise to make you click on it. It was based only on ROI. If you look at college as only a means to an end, i.e.., a trade school for stem then it’s worth what it is printed in.

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Anonymous wrote:How does DCUM feel about Chicago being out of the top 10 in all major US rankings now (USNWR, WSJ, Forbes)? It has been a magnet for DC area students, especially from particular private schools where a number of kids were applying ED2.

Does it make applying ED2 to Hopkins looks a little better now?

Chicago and Hopkins are still equivalent to me. We all know the rankings will change again in 12 months.

A lot of Chicago people drank the USNWR Kool Aid though and have been thinking of Stanford as a real peer rather than Hopkins.

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Anonymous wrote:LAC rankings out as well. Service academies all rose, general moderate shuffling among the others but maybe no giant leaps or drops.

Actually I just noticed one – Soka dropped fairly far. That shows that US News is maybe valuing endowments less this time around.

Also, right now they have Washington & Lee at both 11 and 21!

Nobody cares about SLACs

I do, so go suck a big one

Sounds like SLACs have prepared you well for life.

Lol!