why is mrs still a thing

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I expect that none of the anti Mrs. glad have ever described another woman as hysterical.


Why not?


Hysterical’s earliest meaning was “of, relating to, or characterized by hysteria,” and while we now think of hysteria as irrational panic, it was, for centuries, a medical diagnosis. Hysteria comes from the Greek hysterikós, which means “suffering in the womb.”

So, yeah, the ancient Greeks believed that when a woman was behaving irrationally—or in a way that they considered to be irrational—it was because her uterus was literally wandering around her body causing trouble. (The belief that the uterus was a free-floating organ persisted into the late Middle Ages.) A number of ailments and attitudes were blamed on hysteria, including nervousness, fainting, irritability, anxiety, boldness or outspokenness, sexual desire, and—no joke—the suffragist movement.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher and they call me everything. Mrs. Last Ms. Last Miss Last or just Miss. The only ones I’m not okay with are Mx or just my first name.


What is “Mx” ?


It’s a dumb new thing related to all the non-binary nonsense. Like Xe/Xer pronouns or Latinx.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I thought the whole point was that people could be called or addressed as they liked. Now they need to justify it to you?

You are giving the same vibes as the feminists who are all about "choice" but hate nonstop on SAHMs.


I’m a SAHM and I hate the whole Mrs. Thing. I especially hate when women go by their husband’s first name after, too…”Mrs. John Smith.”


I love the anonymity of Mrs John Smith. And that it's acceptable to be that anonymous as a woman-- men have no equivalent way to obscure their identity.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher and they call me everything. Mrs. Last Ms. Last Miss Last or just Miss. The only ones I’m not okay with are Mx or just my first name.


What is “Mx” ?


It's pronounced like the racial slur "micks." Why they chose a racial slur as the new way to signal a progressive gender identity, I cannot say.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher and they call me everything. Mrs. Last Ms. Last Miss Last or just Miss. The only ones I’m not okay with are Mx or just my first name.


What is “Mx” ?


It's pronounced like the racial slur "micks." Why they chose a racial slur as the new way to signal a progressive gender identity, I cannot say.


OMG. I am sooo over this nonsense. And the whole LatinX thing seems universally hated in the Latino community.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher and they call me everything. Mrs. Last Ms. Last Miss Last or just Miss. The only ones I’m not okay with are Mx or just my first name.


What is “Mx” ?


It's pronounced like the racial slur "micks." Why they chose a racial slur as the new way to signal a progressive gender identity, I cannot say.


Why are married men called "Missed her"? It makes no sense?!

Next year in third grade you'll learn about homophones.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I thought the whole point was that people could be called or addressed as they liked. Now they need to justify it to you?

You are giving the same vibes as the feminists who are all about "choice" but hate nonstop on SAHMs.


I’m a SAHM and I hate the whole Mrs. Thing. I especially hate when women go by their husband’s first name after, too…”Mrs. John Smith.”


I love the anonymity of Mrs John Smith. And that it's acceptable to be that anonymous as a woman-- men have no equivalent way to obscure their identity.



Mr Jane Jones, or Mr Jones for short.

Or make up a name.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm noticing at both my kids schools several teachers (including ones in their 30s and 40s) go by mrs. x. I personally can't fathom why someone would pick that over Ms. Is it some pride in communicating you're married? Just a preference for tradition? It's just so strange to me when we have Ms. to cover all women like we have Mr. to cover all men.

So if YOU prefer to be called mrs x.....why?


Because my last name sounds better with Mrs.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher and they call me everything. Mrs. Last Ms. Last Miss Last or just Miss. The only ones I’m not okay with are Mx or just my first name.


What is “Mx” ?


It's pronounced like the racial slur "micks." Why they chose a racial slur as the new way to signal a progressive gender identity, I cannot say.


Why are married men called "Missed her"? It makes no sense?!

Next year in third grade you'll learn about homophones.



But "missed her" isn't offensive.

A more analogous word would be "harassment." I'm old enough to remember the Anita Hill hearing when this became controversial because it sounded like "her a$$ meant." So for a while it became fashionable to call it "hair-ess-ment."

In either case, both Mister and Harrassment are established words. Mx is a neologism (newspeak) so they literally invented a title that sounds like a slur against Irish people. Bizarre. I have to wonder if this is all just an elaborate game to see how far people can be pushed into self-debasement. Next thing you know, the popular salutation will be "namaste, donkey-face" and everyone will nod back in dutiful compliance.
Anonymous
But why do we even need mr or ms? How about we ditch them both and just call people by their names?
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get it, but then I’m an ardent feminist whose entire life has been focused around the consequences of male violence - first in a family of origin ‘led’ by a raging violent alcoholic bully and later in various adult roles as DV advocate, legal aid attorney , public defender and prosecutor working in the trenches with lives mired in the consequences of male violence.

I’ve been wanting to change my surname for many years now. I haven’t and won’t get married, and I don’t want to die with the name of the man who first abused me and my mother and siblings.

Any ideas for how an adult woman should choose a new surname? I’ve considered choosing a surname from family history, but I recognize that there is a high probability by that method I will choose the name of somebody’s else’s abuser.

Any ideas, let me know!




Your mom’s maiden name would work, no?


No, that name belongs to the man who abused my grandmother into fleeing her home and family and laid the ground work for my mother’s acceptance of my father’s abuse.

I briefly considered my grandmother’s maiden name, but while I never knew my great grandfather I can assume that he was quite possibly also a misogynist whose treatment of my great grandmother and grandmother led to my grandmother’s acceptant of her husband’s abuse for two decades. See it’s an endless cycle.

I appreciate the idea of honoring someone I’ve admired by choosing her name. But going that route could end me up with the name of another abuser - many of the women I’ve admired in my life were driven to their accomplishments as a reaction to toxic patriarchy at the micro or macro level.

It’s a conundrum for sure.


So my thought is you have completely re-branded the name of your abuser with your courage and success.
Its now been changed to a name with honor.
And like Jackie Chan said to the victorious kid at the end of Karate Kid movie sequel - "You Won".
Have you considered this?

I'm the guy who suggested choosing a name honoring someone you admire.


This is a very nice sentiment, and it is nice to hear from a good guy.

I still hate my father’s name because it’s difficult to pronounce and a name you can make a joke of, so I was bullied over it for years in school which is another reason it’s been my desire to offload it for decades. Getting stuck with a crap name from a crap dude is just unfair lol. I had really hoped to meet a good guy and take his name, but oh well.

I’ll figure something out.


Your crap father is not the actual origin of your surname. One person does not taint an entire family or their name.


She wasn't responding to you jerk.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:But why do we even need mr or ms? How about we ditch them both and just call people by their names?


Most languages have a formal tense, and we don't. So we use salutations and titles to indicate formality.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I agree, OP, Mrs. is awful and should be erased from the lexicon. Women who want equality for women should unanimously support one social title for women.


Oh, wait. Now so we DO get to dictate how someone refers to themselves? So we feel like we can now mid-title someone who feels strongly that they want to be known as “Mrs.” because we don’t care for that title? Got it. So glad we can rely on you to tell us when this is okay.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’m noticing that married millennials and young women prefer to be called Mrs. They also are more likely to take their husband’s last name.

I’m Feb X and my generation uses Ms. way more often! We also tend to keep our maiden names especially if we are well-educated and UMC.


Well, I'm Gen X, well-educated and UMC and go by Mrs. So what.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Mrs. is still a thing for the same reason why the patriarchy and misogyny are still things. A lot of women prefer to be men’s property.
Women outnumber men and plenty of men are feminists. If even 75% of women wanted equal rights, we’d have them.


Yes! Mrs. is the possessive form, as in “belongs to”, of Mr. So yes, while by all means anyone can be referred to as they would like, why any woman would choose to be referred to as the possession of their spouse is beyond me.


The women like PP are the women that communicate with all their actions that men aren't needed for a happy life, but then wonder why their sons are struggling...
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