APS: Washington Liberty will be minimum 2700 students by 2025

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Anonymous wrote:I have a kid at tech and the building will fill. There are currently 200 kids on the waitlist for AT and they will get in for 10th if they want.

My kid loves it. They are very "popular" and also loves learning through doing. The teachers are all very engaged and have chosen to be part of a new experiment. When the new building opens, it will fill. I think the focus on sports teams is a false flag.

I asked about the other co-located programs and he said that the student bodies don't mix. If only they'd get a hair-cut during school hours.

why APS hides its waitlist, I'll never know. https://www.apsva.us/school-transfer-data/

Exactly. I do think Arlington Tech will fill when the campus is complete. If not immediately, within two or three years after it’s finished. However, I do hope the program will be open to all students, even English language learners. Ideally the program would attract a diverse cross section of the Arlington demographic and not become another HB.

I am not a parent of an English language learner but am curious if it's true that it's "not open" to English language learners. I ask b/c it's a public school and has to provide access, doesn't it? Also, math is math and engineering is engineering meaning ESL status isn't a negative. Anyway, it's a great school and I hope they support ESL students and if they don't -- figure that part out quickly.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a kid at tech and the building will fill. There are currently 200 kids on the waitlist for AT and they will get in for 10th if they want.

My kid loves it. They are very "popular" and also loves learning through doing. The teachers are all very engaged and have chosen to be part of a new experiment. When the new building opens, it will fill. I think the focus on sports teams is a false flag.

I asked about the other co-located programs and he said that the student bodies don't mix. If only they'd get a hair-cut during school hours.

why APS hides its waitlist, I'll never know. https://www.apsva.us/school-transfer-data/

Exactly. I do think Arlington Tech will fill when the campus is complete. If not immediately, within two or three years after it’s finished. However, I do hope the program will be open to all students, even English language learners. Ideally the program would attract a diverse cross section of the Arlington demographic and not become another HB.

I am not a parent of an English language learner but am curious if it's true that it's "not open" to English language learners. I ask b/c it's a public school and has to provide access, doesn't it? Also, math is math and engineering is engineering meaning ESL status isn't a negative. Anyway, it's a great school and I hope they support ESL students and if they don't -- figure that part out quickly.

I think the implication was HBW is not open to ESL learners.

I can’t find the ESL %, but I do know it has the lowest FARMS rate of any high school or hs program

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/sites/57/2024/01/FREE-REDUCED-DECEMBER-2023.pdf

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HB has a specific program for ESL learners, so no that's just plain wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:HB has a specific program for ESL learners, so no that's just plain wrong.

I mean it makes the motions for supporting ESL, but the proof is in the pudding.

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Anonymous wrote:HB has a specific program for ESL learners, so no that's just plain wrong.

I mean it makes the motions for supporting ESL, but the proof is in the pudding.

I think it’s a special program that complements HB, but English Learners don’t enter the lottery for HB admission like typical families.

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Anonymous wrote:HB has a specific program for ESL learners, so no that's just plain wrong.

I mean it makes the motions for supporting ESL, but the proof is in the pudding.

I think it’s a special program that complements HB, but English Learners don’t enter the lottery for HB admission like typical families.

So there is limited quote for ESL at HBW?

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*quota?

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I thought the poster was referring to ESL support at Tech; not HB.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought the poster was referring to ESL support at Tech; not HB.

PP alluded to HBW much lower ESL than other Arlington high schools and programs, as well as the special process that funnels them out of the mainstream lottery.

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Anonymous wrote:I think for the Arlington Tech Program alone, roughly 1500 to 1800 students? Maybe more? Essentially it will be the size of a small high school. And APS saves a ton of money since, as a specialized Governor’s Academy program and not a comprehensive high school, it will require no new pool or football stadium, etc.

Is it lumped into career center in transfers report? It’s going jump over 1000?? Is there a huge waitlist?

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/sites/57/2024/10/2023-2024-Student-Transfer-Report.pdf

Enrollment shows the breakdown:

Arlington Tech 412. (Wakefield 155, W-L 126, Yorktown 131)

Which is pretty evenly split among the comprehensive HSs. It’s my understanding that kids who are 100+ on the waitlist routinely get into AT. So is there demand for 1500 seats?

Not right now. But when people see the amazing labs, brand new facilities, and National merit finalists they will be banging at the door, even if it means they have to give up sports.

I can’t quite tell if this is sarcasm. But they don’t have to give up sports anyway; they can play with their home school.

This is the part where AT and HB don't always relieve pressure at the 3 main high schools. They still can go take spots on sports teams, in orchestras or plays, in some classes. Rather than considering them programs, they should be schools. Choosing to go there means you take what they have and miss out on what's not there.

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Anonymous wrote:HB has a specific program for ESL learners, so no that's just plain wrong.

I mean it makes the motions for supporting ESL, but the proof is in the pudding.

I think it’s a special program that complements HB, but English Learners don’t enter the lottery for HB admission like typical families.

So there is limited quote for ESL at HBW?

No not at all. It's a special program for ESL that co exists with HB. I don't think they enter through the HB lottery.

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Anonymous wrote:HB has a specific program for ESL learners, so no that's just plain wrong.

I mean it makes the motions for supporting ESL, but the proof is in the pudding.

How do you know it just makes the motions when you literally didn't even know they had this program until just now?

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Anonymous wrote:I think for the Arlington Tech Program alone, roughly 1500 to 1800 students? Maybe more? Essentially it will be the size of a small high school. And APS saves a ton of money since, as a specialized Governor’s Academy program and not a comprehensive high school, it will require no new pool or football stadium, etc.

Is it lumped into career center in transfers report? It’s going jump over 1000?? Is there a huge waitlist?

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/sites/57/2024/10/2023-2024-Student-Transfer-Report.pdf

Enrollment shows the breakdown:

Arlington Tech 412. (Wakefield 155, W-L 126, Yorktown 131)

Which is pretty evenly split among the comprehensive HSs. It’s my understanding that kids who are 100+ on the waitlist routinely get into AT. So is there demand for 1500 seats?

Not right now. But when people see the amazing labs, brand new facilities, and National merit finalists they will be banging at the door, even if it means they have to give up sports.

I can’t quite tell if this is sarcasm. But they don’t have to give up sports anyway; they can play with their home school.

This is the part where AT and HB don't always relieve pressure at the 3 main high schools. They still can go take spots on sports teams, in orchestras or plays, in some classes. Rather than considering them programs, they should be schools. Choosing to go there means you take what they have and miss out on what's not there.

AT and HB students can be in the orchestra, plays or take classes at their home schools? Really?

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Anonymous wrote:I thought the poster was referring to ESL support at Tech; not HB.

PP alluded to HBW much lower ESL than other Arlington high schools and programs, as well as the special process that funnels them out of the mainstream lottery.

what special process to funnel them out? they can enter the regular lottery.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think for the Arlington Tech Program alone, roughly 1500 to 1800 students? Maybe more? Essentially it will be the size of a small high school. And APS saves a ton of money since, as a specialized Governor’s Academy program and not a comprehensive high school, it will require no new pool or football stadium, etc.

Is it lumped into career center in transfers report? It’s going jump over 1000?? Is there a huge waitlist?

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/sites/57/2024/10/2023-2024-Student-Transfer-Report.pdf

Enrollment shows the breakdown:

Arlington Tech 412. (Wakefield 155, W-L 126, Yorktown 131)

Which is pretty evenly split among the comprehensive HSs. It’s my understanding that kids who are 100+ on the waitlist routinely get into AT. So is there demand for 1500 seats?

Not right now. But when people see the amazing labs, brand new facilities, and National merit finalists they will be banging at the door, even if it means they have to give up sports.

I can’t quite tell if this is sarcasm. But they don’t have to give up sports anyway; they can play with their home school.

This is the part where AT and HB don't always relieve pressure at the 3 main high schools. They still can go take spots on sports teams, in orchestras or plays, in some classes. Rather than considering them programs, they should be schools. Choosing to go there means you take what they have and miss out on what's not there.

AT and HB students can be in the orchestra, plays or take classes at their home schools? Really?

DP. Of course. HB and AT students are officially students of their home high schools. They could even go back for a class if not offered at HB for example.