APS: Washington Liberty will be minimum 2700 students by 2025

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Reminder, ARL Tech has a waitlist. Since the new building is not finished yet, it can't absorb many more kids right now.

Once the new building is open, it will get a huge waitlist and the hate will start.
Images: https://www.apsva.us/engage/arlington-career-center-project/

It’s a 1500 person high school co-located with the vocational programs doing auto repair and hair styling. There won’t be any waitlist.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reminder, ARL Tech has a waitlist. Since the new building is not finished yet, it can't absorb many more kids right now.

Once the new building is open, it will get a huge waitlist and the hate will start.
Images: https://www.apsva.us/engage/arlington-career-center-project/

It’s a 1500 person high school co-located with the vocational programs doing auto repair and hair styling. There won’t be any waitlist.

Wall Street Journal published an article yesterday on the high demand for workers in the skilled trades. The pay and benefits for graduating high school seniors are more than what many white collar professionals make a decade into their careers. And no college debt.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reminder, ARL Tech has a waitlist. Since the new building is not finished yet, it can't absorb many more kids right now.

Once the new building is open, it will get a huge waitlist and the hate will start.
Images: https://www.apsva.us/engage/arlington-career-center-project/

It’s a 1500 person high school co-located with the vocational programs doing auto repair and hair styling. There won’t be any waitlist.

Wall Street Journal published an article yesterday on the high demand for workers in the skilled trades. The pay and benefits for graduating high school seniors are more than what many white collar professionals make a decade into their careers. And no college debt.

We can’t all become trades. Wages will rapidly depress and with fewer professionals there will be less demand.

Anyways, the parents of Arlington aren’t giving up on college anytime soon.

[Anonymous]

We'll see.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The thing that gets me is that bitter people whose kids didn't get into HB want to destroy it by closing it or changing it beyond recognition What good does that do for anyone? It doesn't help the kids who are there, and it also doesn't help the kids who didn't get in.

Arlington Tech is also really great. Are you against that too?

DP. I don't have kids at the high school level yet but this argument never sits right with me. The school system is set up with lottery options that many people perceive as "better." Personally, I think this is an unfair system but I would enter my kid in the lottery because this is the system we have. I can understand why people are annoyed when their kids don't get in and why they might wonder why it can't be bigger to give more kids that opportunity. If anything, people arguing against that idea in this environment seem like resource hoarders. This is a PUBLIC school system.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The thing that gets me is that bitter people whose kids didn't get into HB want to destroy it by closing it or changing it beyond recognition What good does that do for anyone? It doesn't help the kids who are there, and it also doesn't help the kids who didn't get in.

Arlington Tech is also really great. Are you against that too?

Increasing HBW to 1000 high school students and moving HBW MS to WMS is not destroying it beyond recognition. It just grows the size of the program in proportion to the growth at the other neighborhood high schools.

It would still be 1/3 the size of WL; radically small for our school system. Just make it as big as Arlington Tech hardly seems unreasonable.

You have no idea how HB works. Just stop. Sorry your kid didn't get in. Move on. Your kid will be okay.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The thing that gets me is that bitter people whose kids didn't get into HB want to destroy it by closing it or changing it beyond recognition What good does that do for anyone? It doesn't help the kids who are there, and it also doesn't help the kids who didn't get in.

Arlington Tech is also really great. Are you against that too?

DP. I don't have kids at the high school level yet but this argument never sits right with me. The school system is set up with lottery options that many people perceive as "better." Personally, I think this is an unfair system but I would enter my kid in the lottery because this is the system we have. I can understand why people are annoyed when their kids don't get in and why they might wonder why it can't be bigger to give more kids that opportunity. If anything, people arguing against that idea in this environment seem like resource hoarders. This is a PUBLIC school system.

I agree more kids should have these types of opportunities, but the answer isn't to destroy the programs we do have. The answer is to have more programs. HB really isn't right for a lot of kids, but other types of programs probably would be. So go advocate for more types of options.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The thing that gets me is that bitter people whose kids didn't get into HB want to destroy it by closing it or changing it beyond recognition What good does that do for anyone? It doesn't help the kids who are there, and it also doesn't help the kids who didn't get in.

Arlington Tech is also really great. Are you against that too?

DP. I don't have kids at the high school level yet but this argument never sits right with me. The school system is set up with lottery options that many people perceive as "better." Personally, I think this is an unfair system but I would enter my kid in the lottery because this is the system we have. I can understand why people are annoyed when their kids don't get in and why they might wonder why it can't be bigger to give more kids that opportunity. If anything, people arguing against that idea in this environment seem like resource hoarders. This is a PUBLIC school system.

I agree more kids should have these types of opportunities, but the answer isn't to destroy the programs we do have. The answer is to have more programs. HB really isn't right for a lot of kids, but other types of programs probably would be. So go advocate for more types of options.

But why would HB be destroyed if it were expanded a bit? This is just a theoretical question, I don't think APS will add more oe expanded options at this point.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The thing that gets me is that bitter people whose kids didn't get into HB want to destroy it by closing it or changing it beyond recognition What good does that do for anyone? It doesn't help the kids who are there, and it also doesn't help the kids who didn't get in.

Arlington Tech is also really great. Are you against that too?

DP. I don't have kids at the high school level yet but this argument never sits right with me. The school system is set up with lottery options that many people perceive as "better." Personally, I think this is an unfair system but I would enter my kid in the lottery because this is the system we have. I can understand why people are annoyed when their kids don't get in and why they might wonder why it can't be bigger to give more kids that opportunity. If anything, people arguing against that idea in this environment seem like resource hoarders. This is a PUBLIC school system.

I agree more kids should have these types of opportunities, but the answer isn't to destroy the programs we do have. The answer is to have more programs. HB really isn't right for a lot of kids, but other types of programs probably would be. So go advocate for more types of options.

But why would HB be destroyed if it were expanded a bit? This is just a theoretical question, I don't think APS will add more oe expanded options at this point.

DP. HB already expanded a little. Given the school’s self-directed philosophy that entails a lot of independence with less adult supervision, a large school program would not work out at all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The thing that gets me is that bitter people whose kids didn't get into HB want to destroy it by closing it or changing it beyond recognition What good does that do for anyone? It doesn't help the kids who are there, and it also doesn't help the kids who didn't get in.

Arlington Tech is also really great. Are you against that too?

DP. I don't have kids at the high school level yet but this argument never sits right with me. The school system is set up with lottery options that many people perceive as "better." Personally, I think this is an unfair system but I would enter my kid in the lottery because this is the system we have. I can understand why people are annoyed when their kids don't get in and why they might wonder why it can't be bigger to give more kids that opportunity. If anything, people arguing against that idea in this environment seem like resource hoarders. This is a PUBLIC school system.

I agree more kids should have these types of opportunities, but the answer isn't to destroy the programs we do have. The answer is to have more programs. HB really isn't right for a lot of kids, but other types of programs probably would be. So go advocate for more types of options.

But why would HB be destroyed if it were expanded a bit? This is just a theoretical question, I don't think APS will add more oe expanded options at this point.

DP. HB already expanded a little. Given the school’s self-directed philosophy that entails a lot of independence with less adult supervision, a large school program would not work out at all.

How much did expand ? In 2010 it has 600 students across 6-12; today it has 700, about 15% growth. Meanwhile WL went from 1800 to 2700 students, 50% growth. HB should be at least 900 students to be in step with the rest of Arlington high schools.

I’m so tired of hearing how the program DEPENDS on a small school size. How convenient.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The thing that gets me is that bitter people whose kids didn't get into HB want to destroy it by closing it or changing it beyond recognition What good does that do for anyone? It doesn't help the kids who are there, and it also doesn't help the kids who didn't get in.

Arlington Tech is also really great. Are you against that too?

DP. I don't have kids at the high school level yet but this argument never sits right with me. The school system is set up with lottery options that many people perceive as "better." Personally, I think this is an unfair system but I would enter my kid in the lottery because this is the system we have. I can understand why people are annoyed when their kids don't get in and why they might wonder why it can't be bigger to give more kids that opportunity. If anything, people arguing against that idea in this environment seem like resource hoarders. This is a PUBLIC school system.

I agree more kids should have these types of opportunities, but the answer isn't to destroy the programs we do have. The answer is to have more programs. HB really isn't right for a lot of kids, but other types of programs probably would be. So go advocate for more types of options.

But why would HB be destroyed if it were expanded a bit? This is just a theoretical question, I don't think APS will add more oe expanded options at this point.

DP. HB already expanded a little. Given the school’s self-directed philosophy that entails a lot of independence with less adult supervision, a large school program would not work out at all.

How much did expand ? In 2010 it has 600 students across 6-12; today it has 700, about 15% growth. Meanwhile WL went from 1800 to 2700 students, 50% growth. HB should be at least 900 students to be in step with the rest of Arlington high schools.

I’m so tired of hearing how the program DEPENDS on a small school size. How convenient.

Well the rest of us our tired of your whining and weird obsession with bashing a school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The thing that gets me is that bitter people whose kids didn't get into HB want to destroy it by closing it or changing it beyond recognition What good does that do for anyone? It doesn't help the kids who are there, and it also doesn't help the kids who didn't get in.

Arlington Tech is also really great. Are you against that too?

DP. I don't have kids at the high school level yet but this argument never sits right with me. The school system is set up with lottery options that many people perceive as "better." Personally, I think this is an unfair system but I would enter my kid in the lottery because this is the system we have. I can understand why people are annoyed when their kids don't get in and why they might wonder why it can't be bigger to give more kids that opportunity. If anything, people arguing against that idea in this environment seem like resource hoarders. This is a PUBLIC school system.

I agree more kids should have these types of opportunities, but the answer isn't to destroy the programs we do have. The answer is to have more programs. HB really isn't right for a lot of kids, but other types of programs probably would be. So go advocate for more types of options.

But why would HB be destroyed if it were expanded a bit? This is just a theoretical question, I don't think APS will add more oe expanded options at this point.

DP. HB already expanded a little. Given the school’s self-directed philosophy that entails a lot of independence with less adult supervision, a large school program would not work out at all.

How much did expand ? In 2010 it has 600 students across 6-12; today it has 700, about 15% growth. Meanwhile WL went from 1800 to 2700 students, 50% growth. HB should be at least 900 students to be in step with the rest of Arlington high schools.

I’m so tired of hearing how the program DEPENDS on a small school size. How convenient.

Well the rest of us our tired of your whining and weird obsession with bashing a school.

My obsession is my kids neighborhood school is way way too big for them, meanwhile a select few get a boutique experience. If HBW becam right sized it would absorb about 400 high school students and WL could be about the same size as YT.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The thing that gets me is that bitter people whose kids didn't get into HB want to destroy it by closing it or changing it beyond recognition What good does that do for anyone? It doesn't help the kids who are there, and it also doesn't help the kids who didn't get in.

Arlington Tech is also really great. Are you against that too?

DP. I don't have kids at the high school level yet but this argument never sits right with me. The school system is set up with lottery options that many people perceive as "better." Personally, I think this is an unfair system but I would enter my kid in the lottery because this is the system we have. I can understand why people are annoyed when their kids don't get in and why they might wonder why it can't be bigger to give more kids that opportunity. If anything, people arguing against that idea in this environment seem like resource hoarders. This is a PUBLIC school system.

I agree more kids should have these types of opportunities, but the answer isn't to destroy the programs we do have. The answer is to have more programs. HB really isn't right for a lot of kids, but other types of programs probably would be. So go advocate for more types of options.

But why would HB be destroyed if it were expanded a bit? This is just a theoretical question, I don't think APS will add more oe expanded options at this point.

DP. HB already expanded a little. Given the school’s self-directed philosophy that entails a lot of independence with less adult supervision, a large school program would not work out at all.

How much did expand ? In 2010 it has 600 students across 6-12; today it has 700, about 15% growth. Meanwhile WL went from 1800 to 2700 students, 50% growth. HB should be at least 900 students to be in step with the rest of Arlington high schools.

I’m so tired of hearing how the program DEPENDS on a small school size. How convenient.

Well the rest of us our tired of your whining and weird obsession with bashing a school.

By the way, I like how I brought numbers and facts detailing how the schools have both grown at disproportionate rates and you just say I am whining without any counter argument.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The thing that gets me is that bitter people whose kids didn't get into HB want to destroy it by closing it or changing it beyond recognition What good does that do for anyone? It doesn't help the kids who are there, and it also doesn't help the kids who didn't get in.

Arlington Tech is also really great. Are you against that too?

DP. I don't have kids at the high school level yet but this argument never sits right with me. The school system is set up with lottery options that many people perceive as "better." Personally, I think this is an unfair system but I would enter my kid in the lottery because this is the system we have. I can understand why people are annoyed when their kids don't get in and why they might wonder why it can't be bigger to give more kids that opportunity. If anything, people arguing against that idea in this environment seem like resource hoarders. This is a PUBLIC school system.

I agree more kids should have these types of opportunities, but the answer isn't to destroy the programs we do have. The answer is to have more programs. HB really isn't right for a lot of kids, but other types of programs probably would be. So go advocate for more types of options.

But why would HB be destroyed if it were expanded a bit? This is just a theoretical question, I don't think APS will add more oe expanded options at this point.

DP. HB already expanded a little. Given the school’s self-directed philosophy that entails a lot of independence with less adult supervision, a large school program would not work out at all.

How much did expand ? In 2010 it has 600 students across 6-12; today it has 700, about 15% growth. Meanwhile WL went from 1800 to 2700 students, 50% growth. HB should be at least 900 students to be in step with the rest of Arlington high schools.

I’m so tired of hearing how the program DEPENDS on a small school size. How convenient.

Well the rest of us our tired of your whining and weird obsession with bashing a school.

My obsession is my kids neighborhood school is way way too big for them, meanwhile a select few get a boutique experience. If HBW becam right sized it would absorb about 400 high school students and WL could be about the same size as YT.

I think there is a small handful of HB posters on these boards and they are all so tone-deaf. Your points are fair and a rational person would acknowledge that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The thing that gets me is that bitter people whose kids didn't get into HB want to destroy it by closing it or changing it beyond recognition What good does that do for anyone? It doesn't help the kids who are there, and it also doesn't help the kids who didn't get in.

Arlington Tech is also really great. Are you against that too?

DP. I don't have kids at the high school level yet but this argument never sits right with me. The school system is set up with lottery options that many people perceive as "better." Personally, I think this is an unfair system but I would enter my kid in the lottery because this is the system we have. I can understand why people are annoyed when their kids don't get in and why they might wonder why it can't be bigger to give more kids that opportunity. If anything, people arguing against that idea in this environment seem like resource hoarders. This is a PUBLIC school system.

I agree more kids should have these types of opportunities, but the answer isn't to destroy the programs we do have. The answer is to have more programs. HB really isn't right for a lot of kids, but other types of programs probably would be. So go advocate for more types of options.

But why would HB be destroyed if it were expanded a bit? This is just a theoretical question, I don't think APS will add more oe expanded options at this point.

DP. HB already expanded a little. Given the school’s self-directed philosophy that entails a lot of independence with less adult supervision, a large school program would not work out at all.

How much did expand ? In 2010 it has 600 students across 6-12; today it has 700, about 15% growth. Meanwhile WL went from 1800 to 2700 students, 50% growth. HB should be at least 900 students to be in step with the rest of Arlington high schools.

I’m so tired of hearing how the program DEPENDS on a small school size. How convenient.

Well the rest of us our tired of your whining and weird obsession with bashing a school.

My obsession is my kids neighborhood school is way way too big for them, meanwhile a select few get a boutique experience. If HBW becam right sized it would absorb about 400 high school students and WL could be about the same size as YT.

I think there is a small handful of HB posters on these boards and they are all so tone-deaf. Your points are fair and a rational person would acknowledge that.

There are also parents here who are fine with the 2600 student W-L and remember the neighborhood outreach and the involvement of the various PTAs in that discussion. Many of those elementary parents now have (or recently had) kids in high school (either W-L or Yorktown since a fair number of W-L neighborhoods were moved to Ytown in 2018).