Are TJ college admissions a mess this year?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a parent of TJ senior and here is number I get so far:
3 Harvard
1 or 2 Yale
2 Princeton
4 or 5 MIT (all from REA)
1 S (maybe)
1 Columbia
2 Upenn

The real number maybe higher than this but definitely not much. Worst year in decade.

This is what I heard so far:

8 Harvard
6 Yale
9 Princeton
11 MIT
5 Stanford
8 Columbia
10 Upenn
18 Michigan
16 CMU
14 Chicago
15 Cornell

Added Michigan and some Virginia, California and North Carolina colleges.
Now the real destination numbers are out.
5 Harvard
1 Yale
4 Princeton
3 MIT
1 Stanford
1 Columbia
5 UPenn
10 Michigan
9 CMU
14 Chicago
7 Cornell
2 CIT
1 UCLA
2 UC Berkeley
6 Duke
7 UNC Chapel Hill

In Virginia,
44 UVA
24 William and Mary
23 VT
4 VCU
5 GMU

These figures are identical to those that appear in the senior issue of tjTODAY. The total number of students captured by tjTODAY is about 360 or so of the 459 graduates - essentially whoever responded to the Google Form. There are another hundred unaccounted for for whatever reason. So a fair number of those totals will be higher.

120 on the original list vs 50 on the current, with 99 missed students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a parent of TJ senior and here is number I get so far:
3 Harvard
1 or 2 Yale
2 Princeton
4 or 5 MIT (all from REA)
1 S (maybe)
1 Columbia
2 Upenn

The real number maybe higher than this but definitely not much. Worst year in decade.

This is what I heard so far:

8 Harvard
6 Yale
9 Princeton
11 MIT
5 Stanford
8 Columbia
10 Upenn
18 Michigan
16 CMU
14 Chicago
15 Cornell

Now the real destination numbers are out.
5 Harvard
3 MIT
4 Princeton
1 Yale
1 Stanford
1 Columbia
5 UPenn
9 CMU
14 Chicago
7 Cornell

One could be acceptances and the other is destinations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a parent of TJ senior and here is number I get so far:
3 Harvard
1 or 2 Yale
2 Princeton
4 or 5 MIT (all from REA)
1 S (maybe)
1 Columbia
2 Upenn

The real number maybe higher than this but definitely not much. Worst year in decade.

This is what I heard so far:

8 Harvard
6 Yale
9 Princeton
11 MIT
5 Stanford
8 Columbia
10 Upenn
18 Michigan
16 CMU
14 Chicago
15 Cornell

Now the real destination numbers are out.
5 Harvard
3 MIT
4 Princeton
1 Yale
1 Stanford
1 Columbia
5 UPenn
9 CMU
14 Chicago
7 Cornell

One could be acceptances and the other is destinations.

I would expect a lot better but guessing these stats will improve with the students admitted under the new process.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a parent of TJ senior and here is number I get so far:
3 Harvard
1 or 2 Yale
2 Princeton
4 or 5 MIT (all from REA)
1 S (maybe)
1 Columbia
2 Upenn

The real number maybe higher than this but definitely not much. Worst year in decade.

This is what I heard so far:

8 Harvard
6 Yale
9 Princeton
11 MIT
5 Stanford
8 Columbia
10 Upenn
18 Michigan
16 CMU
14 Chicago
15 Cornell

Now the real destination numbers are out.
5 Harvard
3 MIT
4 Princeton
1 Yale
1 Stanford
1 Columbia
5 UPenn
9 CMU
14 Chicago
7 Cornell

One could be acceptances and the other is destinations.

I would expect a lot better but guessing these stats will improve with the students admitted under the new process.

i think it will get worse....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a parent of TJ senior and here is number I get so far:
3 Harvard
1 or 2 Yale
2 Princeton
4 or 5 MIT (all from REA)
1 S (maybe)
1 Columbia
2 Upenn

The real number maybe higher than this but definitely not much. Worst year in decade.

This is what I heard so far:

8 Harvard
6 Yale
9 Princeton
11 MIT
5 Stanford
8 Columbia
10 Upenn
18 Michigan
16 CMU
14 Chicago
15 Cornell

Now the real destination numbers are out.
5 Harvard
3 MIT
4 Princeton
1 Yale
1 Stanford
1 Columbia
5 UPenn
9 CMU
14 Chicago
7 Cornell

One could be acceptances and the other is destinations.

I would expect a lot better but guessing these stats will improve with the students admitted under the new process.

i think it will get worse....

Here are the trends I expect:

1) More students admitted to elite schools - the Ivies, Stanford, Duke, MIT, Caltech. This is because TJ will finally have a strong core of excellent students from diverse backgrounds, rather than mostly excellent students from a single background.

2) More students remaining in-state. This is because, even though some schools will offer attractive financial aid packages to the increased number of low-income students, many parents will prefer to have them closer to home.

3) A few more students attending the local schools - GMU, JMU, VCU and the like. There is a slightly larger bottom end of the class now at TJ, and each of those schools has significantly enhanced their academic offerings in recent years. Especially GMU in cybersecurity - could easily see that being a VERY attractive option for TJ kids.

4) Fewer students attending second-tier out-of-state schools - UNC, UChicago, UCLA, Michigan, etc. The real cost of attendance at these schools is high enough that it will cause families to balk.

[Anonymous]

what is the difference between "a strong core of excellent students from diverse backgrounds" and "mostly excellent students from a single background"?

Anonymous wrote:

Here are the trends I expect:

1) More students admitted to elite schools - the Ivies, Stanford, Duke, MIT, Caltech. This is because TJ will finally have a strong core of excellent students from diverse backgrounds, rather than mostly excellent students from a single background.

2) More students remaining in-state. This is because, even though some schools will offer attractive financial aid packages to the increased number of low-income students, many parents will prefer to have them closer to home.

3) A few more students attending the local schools - GMU, JMU, VCU and the like. There is a slightly larger bottom end of the class now at TJ, and each of those schools has significantly enhanced their academic offerings in recent years. Especially GMU in cybersecurity - could easily see that being a VERY attractive option for TJ kids.

4) Fewer students attending second-tier out-of-state schools - UNC, UChicago, UCLA, Michigan, etc. The real cost of attendance at these schools is high enough that it will cause families to balk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a parent of TJ senior and here is number I get so far:
3 Harvard
1 or 2 Yale
2 Princeton
4 or 5 MIT (all from REA)
1 S (maybe)
1 Columbia
2 Upenn

The real number maybe higher than this but definitely not much. Worst year in decade.

This is what I heard so far:

8 Harvard
6 Yale
9 Princeton
11 MIT
5 Stanford
8 Columbia
10 Upenn
18 Michigan
16 CMU
14 Chicago
15 Cornell

Now the real destination numbers are out.
5 Harvard
3 MIT
4 Princeton
1 Yale
1 Stanford
1 Columbia
5 UPenn
9 CMU
14 Chicago
7 Cornell

One could be acceptances and the other is destinations.

I would expect a lot better but guessing these stats will improve with the students admitted under the new process.

Yes, the newer students may be less prepped for the QuantQ but seem to be doing so well. I suspect they will be one of the stronger classes in decades.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a parent of TJ senior and here is number I get so far:
3 Harvard
1 or 2 Yale
2 Princeton
4 or 5 MIT (all from REA)
1 S (maybe)
1 Columbia
2 Upenn

The real number maybe higher than this but definitely not much. Worst year in decade.

This is what I heard so far:

8 Harvard
6 Yale
9 Princeton
11 MIT
5 Stanford
8 Columbia
10 Upenn
18 Michigan
16 CMU
14 Chicago
15 Cornell

Now the real destination numbers are out.
5 Harvard
3 MIT
4 Princeton
1 Yale
1 Stanford
1 Columbia
5 UPenn
9 CMU
14 Chicago
7 Cornell

One could be acceptances and the other is destinations.

I would expect a lot better but guessing these stats will improve with the students admitted under the new process.

Yes, the newer students may be less prepped for the QuantQ but seem to be doing so well. I suspect they will be one of the stronger classes in decades.

Not sure what you definition of well is here, but you made up this observation based on nothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a parent of TJ senior and here is number I get so far:
3 Harvard
1 or 2 Yale
2 Princeton
4 or 5 MIT (all from REA)
1 S (maybe)
1 Columbia
2 Upenn

The real number maybe higher than this but definitely not much. Worst year in decade.

This is what I heard so far:

8 Harvard
6 Yale
9 Princeton
11 MIT
5 Stanford
8 Columbia
10 Upenn
18 Michigan
16 CMU
14 Chicago
15 Cornell

Added Michigan and some Virginia, California and North Carolina colleges.
Now the real destination numbers are out.
5 Harvard
1 Yale
4 Princeton
3 MIT
1 Stanford
1 Columbia
5 UPenn
10 Michigan
9 CMU
14 Chicago
7 Cornell
2 CIT
1 UCLA
2 UC Berkeley
6 Duke
7 UNC Chapel Hill

In Virginia,
44 UVA
24 William and Mary
23 VT
4 VCU
5 GMU

This is the actual number. Thanks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:what is the difference between "a strong core of excellent students from diverse backgrounds" and "mostly excellent students from a single background"?

Anonymous wrote:

Here are the trends I expect:

1) More students admitted to elite schools - the Ivies, Stanford, Duke, MIT, Caltech. This is because TJ will finally have a strong core of excellent students from diverse backgrounds, rather than mostly excellent students from a single background.

2) More students remaining in-state. This is because, even though some schools will offer attractive financial aid packages to the increased number of low-income students, many parents will prefer to have them closer to home.

3) A few more students attending the local schools - GMU, JMU, VCU and the like. There is a slightly larger bottom end of the class now at TJ, and each of those schools has significantly enhanced their academic offerings in recent years. Especially GMU in cybersecurity - could easily see that being a VERY attractive option for TJ kids.

4) Fewer students attending second-tier out-of-state schools - UNC, UChicago, UCLA, Michigan, etc. The real cost of attendance at these schools is high enough that it will cause families to balk.

The colleges want more racial diversity, and now they have a larger selection to choose from at TJ.

[Anonymous]

Did not the supreme court just reject race-based admission?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:what is the difference between "a strong core of excellent students from diverse backgrounds" and "mostly excellent students from a single background"?

Anonymous wrote:

Here are the trends I expect:

1) More students admitted to elite schools - the Ivies, Stanford, Duke, MIT, Caltech. This is because TJ will finally have a strong core of excellent students from diverse backgrounds, rather than mostly excellent students from a single background.

2) More students remaining in-state. This is because, even though some schools will offer attractive financial aid packages to the increased number of low-income students, many parents will prefer to have them closer to home.

3) A few more students attending the local schools - GMU, JMU, VCU and the like. There is a slightly larger bottom end of the class now at TJ, and each of those schools has significantly enhanced their academic offerings in recent years. Especially GMU in cybersecurity - could easily see that being a VERY attractive option for TJ kids.

4) Fewer students attending second-tier out-of-state schools - UNC, UChicago, UCLA, Michigan, etc. The real cost of attendance at these schools is high enough that it will cause families to balk.

The colleges want more racial diversity, and now they have a larger selection to choose from at TJ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did not the supreme court just reject race-based admission?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:what is the difference between "a strong core of excellent students from diverse backgrounds" and "mostly excellent students from a single background"?

Anonymous wrote:

Here are the trends I expect:

1) More students admitted to elite schools - the Ivies, Stanford, Duke, MIT, Caltech. This is because TJ will finally have a strong core of excellent students from diverse backgrounds, rather than mostly excellent students from a single background.

2) More students remaining in-state. This is because, even though some schools will offer attractive financial aid packages to the increased number of low-income students, many parents will prefer to have them closer to home.

3) A few more students attending the local schools - GMU, JMU, VCU and the like. There is a slightly larger bottom end of the class now at TJ, and each of those schools has significantly enhanced their academic offerings in recent years. Especially GMU in cybersecurity - could easily see that being a VERY attractive option for TJ kids.

4) Fewer students attending second-tier out-of-state schools - UNC, UChicago, UCLA, Michigan, etc. The real cost of attendance at these schools is high enough that it will cause families to balk.

The colleges want more racial diversity, and now they have a larger selection to choose from at TJ.

I am still puzzled as to why we treat Indians, Pakistanis, Japanese, Korean, Chinese, Vietnamese, Thai, Cambodians, etc. as a single racial group.

[Anonymous]

Then race-blind as ruled by the Supreme Court!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did not the supreme court just reject race-based admission?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:what is the difference between "a strong core of excellent students from diverse backgrounds" and "mostly excellent students from a single background"?

Anonymous wrote:

Here are the trends I expect:

1) More students admitted to elite schools - the Ivies, Stanford, Duke, MIT, Caltech. This is because TJ will finally have a strong core of excellent students from diverse backgrounds, rather than mostly excellent students from a single background.

2) More students remaining in-state. This is because, even though some schools will offer attractive financial aid packages to the increased number of low-income students, many parents will prefer to have them closer to home.

3) A few more students attending the local schools - GMU, JMU, VCU and the like. There is a slightly larger bottom end of the class now at TJ, and each of those schools has significantly enhanced their academic offerings in recent years. Especially GMU in cybersecurity - could easily see that being a VERY attractive option for TJ kids.

4) Fewer students attending second-tier out-of-state schools - UNC, UChicago, UCLA, Michigan, etc. The real cost of attendance at these schools is high enough that it will cause families to balk.

The colleges want more racial diversity, and now they have a larger selection to choose from at TJ.

I am still puzzled as to why we treat Indians, Pakistanis, Japanese, Korean, Chinese, Vietnamese, Thai, Cambodians, etc. as a single racial group.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a parent of TJ senior and here is number I get so far:
3 Harvard
1 or 2 Yale
2 Princeton
4 or 5 MIT (all from REA)
1 S (maybe)
1 Columbia
2 Upenn

The real number maybe higher than this but definitely not much. Worst year in decade.

This is what I heard so far:

8 Harvard
6 Yale
9 Princeton
11 MIT
5 Stanford
8 Columbia
10 Upenn
18 Michigan
16 CMU
14 Chicago
15 Cornell

Added Michigan and some Virginia, California and North Carolina colleges.
Now the real destination numbers are out.
5 Harvard
1 Yale
4 Princeton
3 MIT
1 Stanford
1 Columbia
5 UPenn
10 Michigan
9 CMU
14 Chicago
7 Cornell
2 CIT
1 UCLA
2 UC Berkeley
6 Duke
7 UNC Chapel Hill

In Virginia,
44 UVA
24 William and Mary
23 VT
4 VCU
5 GMU

This is the actual number. Thanks.

What about the other ~290 graduates? Are we to extrapolate for the remaining ~63 percent?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a parent of TJ senior and here is number I get so far:
3 Harvard
1 or 2 Yale
2 Princeton
4 or 5 MIT (all from REA)
1 S (maybe)
1 Columbia
2 Upenn

The real number maybe higher than this but definitely not much. Worst year in decade.

This is what I heard so far:

8 Harvard
6 Yale
9 Princeton
11 MIT
5 Stanford
8 Columbia
10 Upenn
18 Michigan
16 CMU
14 Chicago
15 Cornell

Added Michigan and some Virginia, California and North Carolina colleges.
Now the real destination numbers are out.
5 Harvard
1 Yale
4 Princeton
3 MIT
1 Stanford
1 Columbia
5 UPenn
10 Michigan
9 CMU
14 Chicago
7 Cornell
2 CIT
1 UCLA
2 UC Berkeley
6 Duke
7 UNC Chapel Hill

In Virginia,
44 UVA
24 William and Mary
23 VT
4 VCU
5 GMU

This is the actual number. Thanks.

There at least 2 Yale so this list is in doubt.