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Anonymous wrote:The problem is that extreme examples are used now to gain support for the bill, but once passed, it allows banning books that aren’t extreme and just represent views Youngkin doesn’t like.


Exactly. That’s the problem with putting books like Gender Queer and This Book is Gay in school libraries. If parents can’t trust their schools to keep this material out of their schools, they will ask their lawmakers to do it. And that creates bad law. It shouldn’t be happening, but the people defending this material have created the opening.


Agreed. I support free speech but I don’t support the government providing sexually explicit material to children.


"I support free speech but" = "I don't support free speech"



I suggest you educate yourself. I support protected speech as currently defined by the Supreme Court which includes many exceptions including threats, defamation, selling state secrets, and obscenity.



So, obscenity. Are you saying that (for example) a Pulitzer-Prize-winning novel appeals to prurient interest and is patently offensive lacks serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value, and therefore Governor Youngkin should be able to ban it? That's certainly an interesting point of view.


Of course not you halfwit. Youngkin nor any other politician should not be able to ban books. Youngkin is not banning the book, nor is he banning adults providing sexually explicit books to their children. He is banning the use of taxpayer dollars to provide sexually explicit content to children in public schools.

Why are you so invested in the state funds being used to provide sexual content to other people children?


"Providing sexual content to other people's children" is a super weird way to describe having books in school libraries.

If you dislike Gender Queer, here's what you can do: don't read it. Libraries are full of books you haven't read. This can be another one.


And no one is stopping you from reading genderqueer to your children.


I noticed that you failed to explain why you are fighting so hard to have schools provide sexual content to other people’s kids. Why is that?


Why would I read Gender Queer to my children? My children can read it for themselves, if they want to. Or not, if they don't. Why are you afraid of your children having access to the book Gender Queer in their school library?


This sentiment is very frightening and sad. These poor children.

This is about not exposing children to very graphic sex.

I will start asking parents before play dates if they give kids sexually graphic books or endorse them. I need to screen for creepers. I don't want my child near your house.


Any kid in HS with a phone will have access to much MUCH more sexual content than these books. The kids who would take the effort to physically go to the library and check these books out are the kids who need these books. Hearing another LGTBQ experience can be validating.


Why do kids need sex manuals?


Teens might have questions about logistics that are maybe not covered in FLE.


"Logistics?" Why do they need information about "logistics?"


Have you ever had trouble working through your own sexuality or gender?

Have you ever come out?

Have you ever had gay sex?

1) It's helpful to have those things normalized.
2) Some tips might actually be helpful.


Normalizing teens having gay sex, or any kind of sex, is not something that schools should be doing.
If you want your teen to have sex, gay or otherwise, go for it.
Let's have our schools teach English, mathematics, history, science, etc.


Our schools already teach sex ed.

Most teens have sex. Pretending that they don't doesn't help anyone. Family Life/sex ed, and other resources such as high school library books, help kids with that path.

No one is forcing kids to have sex. But if they're having sex they should have resources available to them.



Sex ed is one thing. But, if that includes techniques and "toys" used during sex, that is wrong.
Schools should NOT condone sex by teens. Sex ed should include the ramifications of sex - pregnancy, venereal disease, etc. - but should not be promoting any kind of sex acts.
The resources available to them should not be how to do it.
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Sex ed is one thing. But, if that includes techniques and "toys" used during sex, that is wrong.
Schools should NOT condone sex by teens. Sex ed should include the ramifications of sex - pregnancy, venereal disease, etc. - but should not be promoting any kind of sex acts.
The resources available to them should not be how to do it.


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Anonymous wrote:The problem is that extreme examples are used now to gain support for the bill, but once passed, it allows banning books that aren’t extreme and just represent views Youngkin doesn’t like.


Exactly. That’s the problem with putting books like Gender Queer and This Book is Gay in school libraries. If parents can’t trust their schools to keep this material out of their schools, they will ask their lawmakers to do it. And that creates bad law. It shouldn’t be happening, but the people defending this material have created the opening.


Agreed. I support free speech but I don’t support the government providing sexually explicit material to children.


"I support free speech but" = "I don't support free speech"



I suggest you educate yourself. I support protected speech as currently defined by the Supreme Court which includes many exceptions including threats, defamation, selling state secrets, and obscenity.



So, obscenity. Are you saying that (for example) a Pulitzer-Prize-winning novel appeals to prurient interest and is patently offensive lacks serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value, and therefore Governor Youngkin should be able to ban it? That's certainly an interesting point of view.


Of course not you halfwit. Youngkin nor any other politician should not be able to ban books. Youngkin is not banning the book, nor is he banning adults providing sexually explicit books to their children. He is banning the use of taxpayer dollars to provide sexually explicit content to children in public schools.

Why are you so invested in the state funds being used to provide sexual content to other people children?


"Providing sexual content to other people's children" is a super weird way to describe having books in school libraries.

If you dislike Gender Queer, here's what you can do: don't read it. Libraries are full of books you haven't read. This can be another one.


And no one is stopping you from reading genderqueer to your children.


I noticed that you failed to explain why you are fighting so hard to have schools provide sexual content to other people’s kids. Why is that?


Why would I read Gender Queer to my children? My children can read it for themselves, if they want to. Or not, if they don't. Why are you afraid of your children having access to the book Gender Queer in their school library?


This sentiment is very frightening and sad. These poor children.

This is about not exposing children to very graphic sex.

I will start asking parents before play dates if they give kids sexually graphic books or endorse them. I need to screen for creepers. I don't want my child near your house.


Any kid in HS with a phone will have access to much MUCH more sexual content than these books. The kids who would take the effort to physically go to the library and check these books out are the kids who need these books. Hearing another LGTBQ experience can be validating.


Why do kids need sex manuals?


Teens might have questions about logistics that are maybe not covered in FLE.


No, kids don’t need logistics about how to use butt toys. They also don’t need public school instruction or materials regarding the use of other sex toys or techniques or fetishes. They do need information about STD’s, pregnancy, and how to avoid those.


It's not "public school instruction". These are books available to teens who are interested in a high school library.

You think the books are about butt plugs and fetishes? You should read them before spouting off your ignorance.


It sounds like you didn’t read them, actually.
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Just stop religious freaks.

No school is pushing teens to have sex.

Learn science it is called hormones humans have these we are programed to have sex.

Your kids are going to have sex. You will not stop them.

However you religious sex freaks will have grandchildren like Boebert's kid having sex with a 14 year old.

So keep your minds out of the gutter and stop banning books.

You don't want to read books good for you. No library should have books removed, It is not your job to tell my kid or any other kid what to read.

Dumbing down of VA Republcians are stupid.
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Anonymous wrote:The problem is that extreme examples are used now to gain support for the bill, but once passed, it allows banning books that aren’t extreme and just represent views Youngkin doesn’t like.


Exactly. That’s the problem with putting books like Gender Queer and This Book is Gay in school libraries. If parents can’t trust their schools to keep this material out of their schools, they will ask their lawmakers to do it. And that creates bad law. It shouldn’t be happening, but the people defending this material have created the opening.


Agreed. I support free speech but I don’t support the government providing sexually explicit material to children.


"I support free speech but" = "I don't support free speech"



I suggest you educate yourself. I support protected speech as currently defined by the Supreme Court which includes many exceptions including threats, defamation, selling state secrets, and obscenity.



So, obscenity. Are you saying that (for example) a Pulitzer-Prize-winning novel appeals to prurient interest and is patently offensive lacks serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value, and therefore Governor Youngkin should be able to ban it? That's certainly an interesting point of view.


Of course not you halfwit. Youngkin nor any other politician should not be able to ban books. Youngkin is not banning the book, nor is he banning adults providing sexually explicit books to their children. He is banning the use of taxpayer dollars to provide sexually explicit content to children in public schools.

Why are you so invested in the state funds being used to provide sexual content to other people children?


"Providing sexual content to other people's children" is a super weird way to describe having books in school libraries.

If you dislike Gender Queer, here's what you can do: don't read it. Libraries are full of books you haven't read. This can be another one.


And no one is stopping you from reading genderqueer to your children.


I noticed that you failed to explain why you are fighting so hard to have schools provide sexual content to other people’s kids. Why is that?


Why would I read Gender Queer to my children? My children can read it for themselves, if they want to. Or not, if they don't. Why are you afraid of your children having access to the book Gender Queer in their school library?


This sentiment is very frightening and sad. These poor children.

This is about not exposing children to very graphic sex.

I will start asking parents before play dates if they give kids sexually graphic books or endorse them. I need to screen for creepers. I don't want my child near your house.


Any kid in HS with a phone will have access to much MUCH more sexual content than these books. The kids who would take the effort to physically go to the library and check these books out are the kids who need these books. Hearing another LGTBQ experience can be validating.


Why do kids need sex manuals?


Teens might have questions about logistics that are maybe not covered in FLE.


No, kids don’t need logistics about how to use butt toys. They also don’t need public school instruction or materials regarding the use of other sex toys or techniques or fetishes. They do need information about STD’s, pregnancy, and how to avoid those.


It's not "public school instruction". These are books available to teens who are interested in a high school library.

You think the books are about butt plugs and fetishes? You should read them before spouting off your ignorance.

The “teen” book Let’s Talk About It does in fact have sex instructions, including graphic instructions for using butt toys and for manually stimulating your own anus or a friend’s “hungry heinie”. If it makes you uncomfortable, and it sounds like it does, you probably don’t want your kid to read it. You should really try and educate yourself about what we’re talking about.
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Graph depictions of how to how have anal sex is not ok for school children at school. Sorry, OP.

If you choose to instruct your children about that, it can certainly be done in your home. No one cares.


No one is banning books.
However, parents do not want porn in public school libraries.
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Anonymous wrote:The problem is that extreme examples are used now to gain support for the bill, but once passed, it allows banning books that aren’t extreme and just represent views Youngkin doesn’t like.


Exactly. That’s the problem with putting books like Gender Queer and This Book is Gay in school libraries. If parents can’t trust their schools to keep this material out of their schools, they will ask their lawmakers to do it. And that creates bad law. It shouldn’t be happening, but the people defending this material have created the opening.


Agreed. I support free speech but I don’t support the government providing sexually explicit material to children.


"I support free speech but" = "I don't support free speech"



I suggest you educate yourself. I support protected speech as currently defined by the Supreme Court which includes many exceptions including threats, defamation, selling state secrets, and obscenity.



So, obscenity. Are you saying that (for example) a Pulitzer-Prize-winning novel appeals to prurient interest and is patently offensive lacks serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value, and therefore Governor Youngkin should be able to ban it? That's certainly an interesting point of view.


Of course not you halfwit. Youngkin nor any other politician should not be able to ban books. Youngkin is not banning the book, nor is he banning adults providing sexually explicit books to their children. He is banning the use of taxpayer dollars to provide sexually explicit content to children in public schools.

Why are you so invested in the state funds being used to provide sexual content to other people children?


"Providing sexual content to other people's children" is a super weird way to describe having books in school libraries.

If you dislike Gender Queer, here's what you can do: don't read it. Libraries are full of books you haven't read. This can be another one.


And no one is stopping you from reading genderqueer to your children.


I noticed that you failed to explain why you are fighting so hard to have schools provide sexual content to other people’s kids. Why is that?


Why would I read Gender Queer to my children? My children can read it for themselves, if they want to. Or not, if they don't. Why are you afraid of your children having access to the book Gender Queer in their school library?


This sentiment is very frightening and sad. These poor children.

This is about not exposing children to very graphic sex.

I will start asking parents before play dates if they give kids sexually graphic books or endorse them. I need to screen for creepers. I don't want my child near your house.


Any kid in HS with a phone will have access to much MUCH more sexual content than these books. The kids who would take the effort to physically go to the library and check these books out are the kids who need these books. Hearing another LGTBQ experience can be validating.


Why do kids need sex manuals?


Teens might have questions about logistics that are maybe not covered in FLE.


No, kids don’t need logistics about how to use butt toys. They also don’t need public school instruction or materials regarding the use of other sex toys or techniques or fetishes. They do need information about STD’s, pregnancy, and how to avoid those.


It's not "public school instruction". These are books available to teens who are interested in a high school library.

You think the books are about butt plugs and fetishes? You should read them before spouting off your ignorance.


It sounds like you didn’t read them, actually.


You clearly missed the main message of the books. It’s not sex toys.

Go reread them.
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Anonymous wrote:The problem is that extreme examples are used now to gain support for the bill, but once passed, it allows banning books that aren’t extreme and just represent views Youngkin doesn’t like.


Exactly. That’s the problem with putting books like Gender Queer and This Book is Gay in school libraries. If parents can’t trust their schools to keep this material out of their schools, they will ask their lawmakers to do it. And that creates bad law. It shouldn’t be happening, but the people defending this material have created the opening.


Agreed. I support free speech but I don’t support the government providing sexually explicit material to children.


"I support free speech but" = "I don't support free speech"



I suggest you educate yourself. I support protected speech as currently defined by the Supreme Court which includes many exceptions including threats, defamation, selling state secrets, and obscenity.



So, obscenity. Are you saying that (for example) a Pulitzer-Prize-winning novel appeals to prurient interest and is patently offensive lacks serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value, and therefore Governor Youngkin should be able to ban it? That's certainly an interesting point of view.


Of course not you halfwit. Youngkin nor any other politician should not be able to ban books. Youngkin is not banning the book, nor is he banning adults providing sexually explicit books to their children. He is banning the use of taxpayer dollars to provide sexually explicit content to children in public schools.

Why are you so invested in the state funds being used to provide sexual content to other people children?


"Providing sexual content to other people's children" is a super weird way to describe having books in school libraries.

If you dislike Gender Queer, here's what you can do: don't read it. Libraries are full of books you haven't read. This can be another one.


And no one is stopping you from reading genderqueer to your children.


I noticed that you failed to explain why you are fighting so hard to have schools provide sexual content to other people’s kids. Why is that?


Why would I read Gender Queer to my children? My children can read it for themselves, if they want to. Or not, if they don't. Why are you afraid of your children having access to the book Gender Queer in their school library?


This sentiment is very frightening and sad. These poor children.

This is about not exposing children to very graphic sex.

I will start asking parents before play dates if they give kids sexually graphic books or endorse them. I need to screen for creepers. I don't want my child near your house.


Any kid in HS with a phone will have access to much MUCH more sexual content than these books. The kids who would take the effort to physically go to the library and check these books out are the kids who need these books. Hearing another LGTBQ experience can be validating.


Why do kids need sex manuals?


Teens might have questions about logistics that are maybe not covered in FLE.


No, kids don’t need logistics about how to use butt toys. They also don’t need public school instruction or materials regarding the use of other sex toys or techniques or fetishes. They do need information about STD’s, pregnancy, and how to avoid those.


It's not "public school instruction". These are books available to teens who are interested in a high school library.

You think the books are about butt plugs and fetishes? You should read them before spouting off your ignorance.
The “teen” book Let’s Talk About It does in fact have sex instructions, including graphic instructions for using butt toys and for manually stimulating your own anus or a friend’s “hungry heinie”. If it makes you uncomfortable, and it sounds like it does, you probably don’t want your kid to read it. You should really try and educate yourself about what we’re talking about.


You are missing the main message of the books, including this one. It’s not sex toys.

Go re-read them.
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Anonymous wrote:
Graph depictions of how to how have anal sex is not ok for school children at school. Sorry, OP.

If you choose to instruct your children about that, it can certainly be done in your home. No one cares.


No one is banning books.
However, parents do not want porn in public school libraries.


None of these books are porn.
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Just stop religious freaks.

No school is pushing teens to have sex.

Learn science it is called hormones humans have these we are programed to have sex.

Your kids are going to have sex. You will not stop them.

However you religious sex freaks will have grandchildren like Boebert's kid having sex with a 14 year old.

So keep your minds out of the gutter and stop banning books.

You don't want to read books good for you. No library should have books removed, It is not your job to tell my kid or any other kid what to read.

Dumbing down of VA Republcians are stupid.


+1

They are books in HS libraries. No one is forcing your teenager to read them. And your teen has access to much much worse on their phone.
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Anonymous wrote:The problem is that extreme examples are used now to gain support for the bill, but once passed, it allows banning books that aren’t extreme and just represent views Youngkin doesn’t like.


Exactly. That’s the problem with putting books like Gender Queer and This Book is Gay in school libraries. If parents can’t trust their schools to keep this material out of their schools, they will ask their lawmakers to do it. And that creates bad law. It shouldn’t be happening, but the people defending this material have created the opening.


Agreed. I support free speech but I don’t support the government providing sexually explicit material to children.


"I support free speech but" = "I don't support free speech"



I suggest you educate yourself. I support protected speech as currently defined by the Supreme Court which includes many exceptions including threats, defamation, selling state secrets, and obscenity.



So, obscenity. Are you saying that (for example) a Pulitzer-Prize-winning novel appeals to prurient interest and is patently offensive lacks serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value, and therefore Governor Youngkin should be able to ban it? That's certainly an interesting point of view.


Of course not you halfwit. Youngkin nor any other politician should not be able to ban books. Youngkin is not banning the book, nor is he banning adults providing sexually explicit books to their children. He is banning the use of taxpayer dollars to provide sexually explicit content to children in public schools.

Why are you so invested in the state funds being used to provide sexual content to other people children?


"Providing sexual content to other people's children" is a super weird way to describe having books in school libraries.

If you dislike Gender Queer, here's what you can do: don't read it. Libraries are full of books you haven't read. This can be another one.


And no one is stopping you from reading genderqueer to your children.


I noticed that you failed to explain why you are fighting so hard to have schools provide sexual content to other people’s kids. Why is that?


Why would I read Gender Queer to my children? My children can read it for themselves, if they want to. Or not, if they don't. Why are you afraid of your children having access to the book Gender Queer in their school library?


This sentiment is very frightening and sad. These poor children.

This is about not exposing children to very graphic sex.

I will start asking parents before play dates if they give kids sexually graphic books or endorse them. I need to screen for creepers. I don't want my child near your house.


Any kid in HS with a phone will have access to much MUCH more sexual content than these books. The kids who would take the effort to physically go to the library and check these books out are the kids who need these books. Hearing another LGTBQ experience can be validating.


Why do kids need sex manuals?


Teens might have questions about logistics that are maybe not covered in FLE.


No, kids don’t need logistics about how to use butt toys. They also don’t need public school instruction or materials regarding the use of other sex toys or techniques or fetishes. They do need information about STD’s, pregnancy, and how to avoid those.


It's not "public school instruction". These are books available to teens who are interested in a high school library.

You think the books are about butt plugs and fetishes? You should read them before spouting off your ignorance.
The “teen” book Let’s Talk About It does in fact have sex instructions, including graphic instructions for using butt toys and for manually stimulating your own anus or a friend’s “hungry heinie”. If it makes you uncomfortable, and it sounds like it does, you probably don’t want your kid to read it. You should really try and educate yourself about what we’re talking about.


You are missing the main message of the books, including this one. It’s not sex toys.

Go re-read them.


NP
If they mention sex toys, I don’t care what the main message is.
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Anonymous wrote:The problem is that extreme examples are used now to gain support for the bill, but once passed, it allows banning books that aren’t extreme and just represent views Youngkin doesn’t like.


Exactly. That’s the problem with putting books like Gender Queer and This Book is Gay in school libraries. If parents can’t trust their schools to keep this material out of their schools, they will ask their lawmakers to do it. And that creates bad law. It shouldn’t be happening, but the people defending this material have created the opening.


Agreed. I support free speech but I don’t support the government providing sexually explicit material to children.


"I support free speech but" = "I don't support free speech"



I suggest you educate yourself. I support protected speech as currently defined by the Supreme Court which includes many exceptions including threats, defamation, selling state secrets, and obscenity.



So, obscenity. Are you saying that (for example) a Pulitzer-Prize-winning novel appeals to prurient interest and is patently offensive lacks serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value, and therefore Governor Youngkin should be able to ban it? That's certainly an interesting point of view.


Of course not you halfwit. Youngkin nor any other politician should not be able to ban books. Youngkin is not banning the book, nor is he banning adults providing sexually explicit books to their children. He is banning the use of taxpayer dollars to provide sexually explicit content to children in public schools.

Why are you so invested in the state funds being used to provide sexual content to other people children?


"Providing sexual content to other people's children" is a super weird way to describe having books in school libraries.

If you dislike Gender Queer, here's what you can do: don't read it. Libraries are full of books you haven't read. This can be another one.


And no one is stopping you from reading genderqueer to your children.


I noticed that you failed to explain why you are fighting so hard to have schools provide sexual content to other people’s kids. Why is that?


Why would I read Gender Queer to my children? My children can read it for themselves, if they want to. Or not, if they don't. Why are you afraid of your children having access to the book Gender Queer in their school library?


This sentiment is very frightening and sad. These poor children.

This is about not exposing children to very graphic sex.

I will start asking parents before play dates if they give kids sexually graphic books or endorse them. I need to screen for creepers. I don't want my child near your house.


Any kid in HS with a phone will have access to much MUCH more sexual content than these books. The kids who would take the effort to physically go to the library and check these books out are the kids who need these books. Hearing another LGTBQ experience can be validating.


Why do kids need sex manuals?


Teens might have questions about logistics that are maybe not covered in FLE.


No, kids don’t need logistics about how to use butt toys. They also don’t need public school instruction or materials regarding the use of other sex toys or techniques or fetishes. They do need information about STD’s, pregnancy, and how to avoid those.


There are STD risks with gay sex. And explaining how something works is neither "instruction" nor encouragement.

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Anonymous wrote:The problem is that extreme examples are used now to gain support for the bill, but once passed, it allows banning books that aren’t extreme and just represent views Youngkin doesn’t like.


Exactly. That’s the problem with putting books like Gender Queer and This Book is Gay in school libraries. If parents can’t trust their schools to keep this material out of their schools, they will ask their lawmakers to do it. And that creates bad law. It shouldn’t be happening, but the people defending this material have created the opening.


Agreed. I support free speech but I don’t support the government providing sexually explicit material to children.


"I support free speech but" = "I don't support free speech"



I suggest you educate yourself. I support protected speech as currently defined by the Supreme Court which includes many exceptions including threats, defamation, selling state secrets, and obscenity.



So, obscenity. Are you saying that (for example) a Pulitzer-Prize-winning novel appeals to prurient interest and is patently offensive lacks serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value, and therefore Governor Youngkin should be able to ban it? That's certainly an interesting point of view.


Of course not you halfwit. Youngkin nor any other politician should not be able to ban books. Youngkin is not banning the book, nor is he banning adults providing sexually explicit books to their children. He is banning the use of taxpayer dollars to provide sexually explicit content to children in public schools.

Why are you so invested in the state funds being used to provide sexual content to other people children?


"Providing sexual content to other people's children" is a super weird way to describe having books in school libraries.

If you dislike Gender Queer, here's what you can do: don't read it. Libraries are full of books you haven't read. This can be another one.


And no one is stopping you from reading genderqueer to your children.


I noticed that you failed to explain why you are fighting so hard to have schools provide sexual content to other people’s kids. Why is that?


Why would I read Gender Queer to my children? My children can read it for themselves, if they want to. Or not, if they don't. Why are you afraid of your children having access to the book Gender Queer in their school library?


This sentiment is very frightening and sad. These poor children.

This is about not exposing children to very graphic sex.

I will start asking parents before play dates if they give kids sexually graphic books or endorse them. I need to screen for creepers. I don't want my child near your house.


Any kid in HS with a phone will have access to much MUCH more sexual content than these books. The kids who would take the effort to physically go to the library and check these books out are the kids who need these books. Hearing another LGTBQ experience can be validating.


Why do kids need sex manuals?


Teens might have questions about logistics that are maybe not covered in FLE.


"Logistics?" Why do they need information about "logistics?"


Have you ever had trouble working through your own sexuality or gender?

Have you ever come out?

Have you ever had gay sex?

1) It's helpful to have those things normalized.
2) Some tips might actually be helpful.


Normalizing teens having gay sex, or any kind of sex, is not something that schools should be doing.
If you want your teen to have sex, gay or otherwise, go for it.
Let's have our schools teach English, mathematics, history, science, etc.


See, that's where you're completely wrong. Your opinion about this isn't valid. In fact, it's your invalid opinion that completely validates WHY schools need to intervene in this area, otherwise they're getting their (misinformation) or no information from people like you. And then you end up with your 17 yo son knocking up his 15 yo girlfriend and you're forced to go out and profess that this disaster is a blessing for your family.
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Anonymous wrote:The problem is that extreme examples are used now to gain support for the bill, but once passed, it allows banning books that aren’t extreme and just represent views Youngkin doesn’t like.


Exactly. That’s the problem with putting books like Gender Queer and This Book is Gay in school libraries. If parents can’t trust their schools to keep this material out of their schools, they will ask their lawmakers to do it. And that creates bad law. It shouldn’t be happening, but the people defending this material have created the opening.


Agreed. I support free speech but I don’t support the government providing sexually explicit material to children.


"I support free speech but" = "I don't support free speech"



I suggest you educate yourself. I support protected speech as currently defined by the Supreme Court which includes many exceptions including threats, defamation, selling state secrets, and obscenity.



So, obscenity. Are you saying that (for example) a Pulitzer-Prize-winning novel appeals to prurient interest and is patently offensive lacks serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value, and therefore Governor Youngkin should be able to ban it? That's certainly an interesting point of view.


Of course not you halfwit. Youngkin nor any other politician should not be able to ban books. Youngkin is not banning the book, nor is he banning adults providing sexually explicit books to their children. He is banning the use of taxpayer dollars to provide sexually explicit content to children in public schools.

Why are you so invested in the state funds being used to provide sexual content to other people children?


"Providing sexual content to other people's children" is a super weird way to describe having books in school libraries.

If you dislike Gender Queer, here's what you can do: don't read it. Libraries are full of books you haven't read. This can be another one.


And no one is stopping you from reading genderqueer to your children.


I noticed that you failed to explain why you are fighting so hard to have schools provide sexual content to other people’s kids. Why is that?


Why would I read Gender Queer to my children? My children can read it for themselves, if they want to. Or not, if they don't. Why are you afraid of your children having access to the book Gender Queer in their school library?


This sentiment is very frightening and sad. These poor children.

This is about not exposing children to very graphic sex.

I will start asking parents before play dates if they give kids sexually graphic books or endorse them. I need to screen for creepers. I don't want my child near your house.


Any kid in HS with a phone will have access to much MUCH more sexual content than these books. The kids who would take the effort to physically go to the library and check these books out are the kids who need these books. Hearing another LGTBQ experience can be validating.


Why do kids need sex manuals?


Teens might have questions about logistics that are maybe not covered in FLE.


"Logistics?" Why do they need information about "logistics?"


So they do it right and don't hurt themselves. Or cause harm to others. This isn't hard. Try to keep up.
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Anonymous wrote:The problem is that extreme examples are used now to gain support for the bill, but once passed, it allows banning books that aren’t extreme and just represent views Youngkin doesn’t like.


Exactly. That’s the problem with putting books like Gender Queer and This Book is Gay in school libraries. If parents can’t trust their schools to keep this material out of their schools, they will ask their lawmakers to do it. And that creates bad law. It shouldn’t be happening, but the people defending this material have created the opening.


Agreed. I support free speech but I don’t support the government providing sexually explicit material to children.


"I support free speech but" = "I don't support free speech"



I suggest you educate yourself. I support protected speech as currently defined by the Supreme Court which includes many exceptions including threats, defamation, selling state secrets, and obscenity.



So, obscenity. Are you saying that (for example) a Pulitzer-Prize-winning novel appeals to prurient interest and is patently offensive lacks serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value, and therefore Governor Youngkin should be able to ban it? That's certainly an interesting point of view.


Of course not you halfwit. Youngkin nor any other politician should not be able to ban books. Youngkin is not banning the book, nor is he banning adults providing sexually explicit books to their children. He is banning the use of taxpayer dollars to provide sexually explicit content to children in public schools.

Why are you so invested in the state funds being used to provide sexual content to other people children?


"Providing sexual content to other people's children" is a super weird way to describe having books in school libraries.

If you dislike Gender Queer, here's what you can do: don't read it. Libraries are full of books you haven't read. This can be another one.


And no one is stopping you from reading genderqueer to your children.


I noticed that you failed to explain why you are fighting so hard to have schools provide sexual content to other people’s kids. Why is that?


Why would I read Gender Queer to my children? My children can read it for themselves, if they want to. Or not, if they don't. Why are you afraid of your children having access to the book Gender Queer in their school library?


This sentiment is very frightening and sad. These poor children.

This is about not exposing children to very graphic sex.

I will start asking parents before play dates if they give kids sexually graphic books or endorse them. I need to screen for creepers. I don't want my child near your house.


Any kid in HS with a phone will have access to much MUCH more sexual content than these books. The kids who would take the effort to physically go to the library and check these books out are the kids who need these books. Hearing another LGTBQ experience can be validating.


Why do kids need sex manuals?


Teens might have questions about logistics that are maybe not covered in FLE.


No, kids don’t need logistics about how to use butt toys. They also don’t need public school instruction or materials regarding the use of other sex toys or techniques or fetishes. They do need information about STD’s, pregnancy, and how to avoid those.


It's not "public school instruction". These are books available to teens who are interested in a high school library.

You think the books are about butt plugs and fetishes? You should read them before spouting off your ignorance.
The “teen” book Let’s Talk About It does in fact have sex instructions, including graphic instructions for using butt toys and for manually stimulating your own anus or a friend’s “hungry heinie”. If it makes you uncomfortable, and it sounds like it does, you probably don’t want your kid to read it. You should really try and educate yourself about what we’re talking about.


You are missing the main message of the books, including this one. It’s not sex toys.

Go re-read them.


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If they mention sex toys, I don’t care what the main message is.


Why? What’s wrong with sex toys?
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