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I fully support kids watching porn or whatever they want to do on their own time. I do not restrict my kids' technology use. I also keep an open dialog with them about dating and sex (if they want to talk about it - not compelled). I see no reason why books about graphic sexual maneuvers need to be in school libraries.
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Graph depictions of how to how have anal sex is not ok for school children at school. Sorry, OP.

If you choose to instruct your children about that, it can certainly be done in your home. No one cares.


I dispute your premise. This doesn’t exist in school materials and you know it.


DP. So you clearly haven't bothered to watch the video that was put out with actual pictures from these books, found in school libraries.


EXACTLY. There’s NOTHING ok about graphic depictions of sex.

Some people here apparently have an inappropriate agenda.


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The gaslighting here is so typical. Apparently, if we don't want our kids exposed to inappropriate sexual material, there is something wrong with US. But nothing wrong with those who insist their kids SHOULD be exposed to it. What a joke. No wonder no one takes LW extremists seriously.


There *is* something very “wrong” with you. Because this isn’t about graphic materials, and you know it. No wonder no one takes right wing nut jobs seriously— you all hate America and all its values. We saw that plainly on Jan. 6 and you continue to pursue your fascist impulses while crying “who will think of the children.” You are revolting. I would like you to get out of my country. America: Love it or leave it. You obviously hate it, so leave.
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Anonymous wrote:I fully support kids watching porn or whatever they want to do on their own time. I do not restrict my kids' technology use. I also keep an open dialog with them about dating and sex (if they want to talk about it - not compelled). I see no reason why books about graphic sexual maneuvers need to be in school libraries.


They … aren’t.

And most of this is aimed at things like “Heather has two mommies.”
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Anonymous wrote:I fully support kids watching porn or whatever they want to do on their own time. I do not restrict my kids' technology use. I also keep an open dialog with them about dating and sex (if they want to talk about it - not compelled). I see no reason why books about graphic sexual maneuvers need to be in school libraries.
genderqueer literally depicts pederasty
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Anonymous wrote:I fully support kids watching porn or whatever they want to do on their own time. I do not restrict my kids' technology use. I also keep an open dialog with them about dating and sex (if they want to talk about it - not compelled). I see no reason why books about graphic sexual maneuvers need to be in school libraries.


They … aren’t.

And most of this is aimed at things like “Heather has two mommies.”
false. The book genderqueer at the forefront of this literally has an image of a naked adult male with an erection touching a boy’s penis. Why do you want this anywhere let alone in school?
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Anonymous wrote:The problem is that extreme examples are used now to gain support for the bill, but once passed, it allows banning books that aren’t extreme and just represent views Youngkin doesn’t like.


Exactly. That’s the problem with putting books like Gender Queer and This Book is Gay in school libraries. If parents can’t trust their schools to keep this material out of their schools, they will ask their lawmakers to do it. And that creates bad law. It shouldn’t be happening, but the people defending this material have created the opening.


Agreed. I support free speech but I don’t support the government providing sexually explicit material to children.


"I support free speech but" = "I don't support free speech"



I suggest you educate yourself. I support protected speech as currently defined by the Supreme Court which includes many exceptions including threats, defamation, selling state secrets, and obscenity.



They can ask their parents. Just like they have been told to do for 100's of years.


So, obscenity. Are you saying that (for example) a Pulitzer-Prize-winning novel appeals to prurient interest and is patently offensive lacks serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value, and therefore Governor Youngkin should be able to ban it? That's certainly an interesting point of view.


Of course not you halfwit. Youngkin nor any other politician should not be able to ban books. Youngkin is not banning the book, nor is he banning adults providing sexually explicit books to their children. He is banning the use of taxpayer dollars to provide sexually explicit content to children in public schools.

Why are you so invested in the state funds being used to provide sexual content to other people children?


"Providing sexual content to other people's children" is a super weird way to describe having books in school libraries.

If you dislike Gender Queer, here's what you can do: don't read it. Libraries are full of books you haven't read. This can be another one.


And no one is stopping you from reading genderqueer to your children.


I noticed that you failed to explain why you are fighting so hard to have schools provide sexual content to other people’s kids. Why is that?


Why would I read Gender Queer to my children? My children can read it for themselves, if they want to. Or not, if they don't. Why are you afraid of your children having access to the book Gender Queer in their school library?


This sentiment is very frightening and sad. These poor children.

This is about not exposing children to very graphic sex.

I will start asking parents before play dates if they give kids sexually graphic books or endorse them. I need to screen for creepers. I don't want my child near your house.


Any kid in HS with a phone will have access to much MUCH more sexual content than these books. The kids who would take the effort to physically go to the library and check these books out are the kids who need these books. Hearing another LGTBQ experience can be validating.


Why do kids need sex manuals?


Teens might have questions about logistics that are maybe not covered in FLE.
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Graph depictions of how to how have anal sex is not ok for school children at school. Sorry, OP.

If you choose to instruct your children about that, it can certainly be done in your home. No one cares.


I dispute your premise. This doesn’t exist in school materials and you know it.


DP. So you clearly haven't bothered to watch the video that was put out with actual pictures from these books, found in school libraries.


EXACTLY. There’s NOTHING ok about graphic depictions of sex.

Some people here apparently have an inappropriate agenda.


+100
The gaslighting here is so typical. Apparently, if we don't want our kids exposed to inappropriate sexual material, there is something wrong with US. But nothing wrong with those who insist their kids SHOULD be exposed to it. What a joke. No wonder no one takes LW extremists seriously.


There *is* something very “wrong” with you. Because this isn’t about graphic materials, and you know it. No wonder no one takes right wing nut jobs seriously— you all hate America and all its values. We saw that plainly on Jan. 6 and you continue to pursue your fascist impulses while crying “who will think of the children.” You are revolting. I would like you to get out of my country. America: Love it or leave it. You obviously hate it, so leave.


You may want to get out of your bubble occasionally.
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Anonymous wrote:I fully support kids watching porn or whatever they want to do on their own time. I do not restrict my kids' technology use. I also keep an open dialog with them about dating and sex (if they want to talk about it - not compelled). I see no reason why books about graphic sexual maneuvers need to be in school libraries.


They … aren’t.

And most of this is aimed at things like “Heather has two mommies.”
false. The book genderqueer at the forefront of this literally has an image of a naked adult male with an erection touching a boy’s penis. Why do you want this anywhere let alone in school?


Here are some excerpts from Gender Queer, which we can all look at. This is the book you want to ban.

https://redgoldsparkspress.com/projects/6926504
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Anonymous wrote:I fully support kids watching porn or whatever they want to do on their own time. I do not restrict my kids' technology use. I also keep an open dialog with them about dating and sex (if they want to talk about it - not compelled). I see no reason why books about graphic sexual maneuvers need to be in school libraries.


They … aren’t.

And most of this is aimed at things like “Heather has two mommies.”
false. The book genderqueer at the forefront of this literally has an image of a naked adult male with an erection touching a boy’s penis. Why do you want this anywhere let alone in school?


Huh? That isn't in Gender Queer...

Your news source is crap.
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Anonymous wrote:I fully support kids watching porn or whatever they want to do on their own time. I do not restrict my kids' technology use. I also keep an open dialog with them about dating and sex (if they want to talk about it - not compelled). I see no reason why books about graphic sexual maneuvers need to be in school libraries.
genderqueer literally depicts pederasty


It literally does not depict that.

Stop spreading lies.
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Anonymous wrote:The problem is that extreme examples are used now to gain support for the bill, but once passed, it allows banning books that aren’t extreme and just represent views Youngkin doesn’t like.


Exactly. That’s the problem with putting books like Gender Queer and This Book is Gay in school libraries. If parents can’t trust their schools to keep this material out of their schools, they will ask their lawmakers to do it. And that creates bad law. It shouldn’t be happening, but the people defending this material have created the opening.


Agreed. I support free speech but I don’t support the government providing sexually explicit material to children.


"I support free speech but" = "I don't support free speech"



I suggest you educate yourself. I support protected speech as currently defined by the Supreme Court which includes many exceptions including threats, defamation, selling state secrets, and obscenity.



So, obscenity. Are you saying that (for example) a Pulitzer-Prize-winning novel appeals to prurient interest and is patently offensive lacks serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value, and therefore Governor Youngkin should be able to ban it? That's certainly an interesting point of view.


Of course not you halfwit. Youngkin nor any other politician should not be able to ban books. Youngkin is not banning the book, nor is he banning adults providing sexually explicit books to their children. He is banning the use of taxpayer dollars to provide sexually explicit content to children in public schools.

Why are you so invested in the state funds being used to provide sexual content to other people children?


"Providing sexual content to other people's children" is a super weird way to describe having books in school libraries.

If you dislike Gender Queer, here's what you can do: don't read it. Libraries are full of books you haven't read. This can be another one.


And no one is stopping you from reading genderqueer to your children.


I noticed that you failed to explain why you are fighting so hard to have schools provide sexual content to other people’s kids. Why is that?


Why would I read Gender Queer to my children? My children can read it for themselves, if they want to. Or not, if they don't. Why are you afraid of your children having access to the book Gender Queer in their school library?


This sentiment is very frightening and sad. These poor children.

This is about not exposing children to very graphic sex.

I will start asking parents before play dates if they give kids sexually graphic books or endorse them. I need to screen for creepers. I don't want my child near your house.


Any kid in HS with a phone will have access to much MUCH more sexual content than these books. The kids who would take the effort to physically go to the library and check these books out are the kids who need these books. Hearing another LGTBQ experience can be validating.


Why do kids need sex manuals?


Teens might have questions about logistics that are maybe not covered in FLE.


"Logistics?" Why do they need information about "logistics?"


Have you ever had trouble working through your own sexuality or gender?

Have you ever come out?

Have you ever had gay sex?

1) It's helpful to have those things normalized.
2) Some tips might actually be helpful.
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Anonymous wrote:The problem is that extreme examples are used now to gain support for the bill, but once passed, it allows banning books that aren’t extreme and just represent views Youngkin doesn’t like.


Exactly. That’s the problem with putting books like Gender Queer and This Book is Gay in school libraries. If parents can’t trust their schools to keep this material out of their schools, they will ask their lawmakers to do it. And that creates bad law. It shouldn’t be happening, but the people defending this material have created the opening.


Agreed. I support free speech but I don’t support the government providing sexually explicit material to children.


"I support free speech but" = "I don't support free speech"



I suggest you educate yourself. I support protected speech as currently defined by the Supreme Court which includes many exceptions including threats, defamation, selling state secrets, and obscenity.



So, obscenity. Are you saying that (for example) a Pulitzer-Prize-winning novel appeals to prurient interest and is patently offensive lacks serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value, and therefore Governor Youngkin should be able to ban it? That's certainly an interesting point of view.


Of course not you halfwit. Youngkin nor any other politician should not be able to ban books. Youngkin is not banning the book, nor is he banning adults providing sexually explicit books to their children. He is banning the use of taxpayer dollars to provide sexually explicit content to children in public schools.

Why are you so invested in the state funds being used to provide sexual content to other people children?


"Providing sexual content to other people's children" is a super weird way to describe having books in school libraries.

If you dislike Gender Queer, here's what you can do: don't read it. Libraries are full of books you haven't read. This can be another one.


And no one is stopping you from reading genderqueer to your children.


I noticed that you failed to explain why you are fighting so hard to have schools provide sexual content to other people’s kids. Why is that?


Why would I read Gender Queer to my children? My children can read it for themselves, if they want to. Or not, if they don't. Why are you afraid of your children having access to the book Gender Queer in their school library?


This sentiment is very frightening and sad. These poor children.

This is about not exposing children to very graphic sex.

I will start asking parents before play dates if they give kids sexually graphic books or endorse them. I need to screen for creepers. I don't want my child near your house.


Any kid in HS with a phone will have access to much MUCH more sexual content than these books. The kids who would take the effort to physically go to the library and check these books out are the kids who need these books. Hearing another LGTBQ experience can be validating.


Why do kids need sex manuals?


Teens might have questions about logistics that are maybe not covered in FLE.


No, kids don’t need logistics about how to use butt toys. They also don’t need public school instruction or materials regarding the use of other sex toys or techniques or fetishes. They do need information about STD’s, pregnancy, and how to avoid those.
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Anonymous wrote:The problem is that extreme examples are used now to gain support for the bill, but once passed, it allows banning books that aren’t extreme and just represent views Youngkin doesn’t like.


Exactly. That’s the problem with putting books like Gender Queer and This Book is Gay in school libraries. If parents can’t trust their schools to keep this material out of their schools, they will ask their lawmakers to do it. And that creates bad law. It shouldn’t be happening, but the people defending this material have created the opening.


Agreed. I support free speech but I don’t support the government providing sexually explicit material to children.


"I support free speech but" = "I don't support free speech"



I suggest you educate yourself. I support protected speech as currently defined by the Supreme Court which includes many exceptions including threats, defamation, selling state secrets, and obscenity.



So, obscenity. Are you saying that (for example) a Pulitzer-Prize-winning novel appeals to prurient interest and is patently offensive lacks serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value, and therefore Governor Youngkin should be able to ban it? That's certainly an interesting point of view.


Of course not you halfwit. Youngkin nor any other politician should not be able to ban books. Youngkin is not banning the book, nor is he banning adults providing sexually explicit books to their children. He is banning the use of taxpayer dollars to provide sexually explicit content to children in public schools.

Why are you so invested in the state funds being used to provide sexual content to other people children?


"Providing sexual content to other people's children" is a super weird way to describe having books in school libraries.

If you dislike Gender Queer, here's what you can do: don't read it. Libraries are full of books you haven't read. This can be another one.


And no one is stopping you from reading genderqueer to your children.


I noticed that you failed to explain why you are fighting so hard to have schools provide sexual content to other people’s kids. Why is that?


Why would I read Gender Queer to my children? My children can read it for themselves, if they want to. Or not, if they don't. Why are you afraid of your children having access to the book Gender Queer in their school library?


This sentiment is very frightening and sad. These poor children.

This is about not exposing children to very graphic sex.

I will start asking parents before play dates if they give kids sexually graphic books or endorse them. I need to screen for creepers. I don't want my child near your house.


Any kid in HS with a phone will have access to much MUCH more sexual content than these books. The kids who would take the effort to physically go to the library and check these books out are the kids who need these books. Hearing another LGTBQ experience can be validating.


Why do kids need sex manuals?


Teens might have questions about logistics that are maybe not covered in FLE.


"Logistics?" Why do they need information about "logistics?"


Have you ever had trouble working through your own sexuality or gender?

Have you ever come out?

Have you ever had gay sex?

1) It's helpful to have those things normalized.
2) Some tips might actually be helpful.


Normalizing teens having gay sex, or any kind of sex, is not something that schools should be doing.
If you want your teen to have sex, gay or otherwise, go for it.
Let's have our schools teach English, mathematics, history, science, etc.
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Anonymous wrote:The problem is that extreme examples are used now to gain support for the bill, but once passed, it allows banning books that aren’t extreme and just represent views Youngkin doesn’t like.


Exactly. That’s the problem with putting books like Gender Queer and This Book is Gay in school libraries. If parents can’t trust their schools to keep this material out of their schools, they will ask their lawmakers to do it. And that creates bad law. It shouldn’t be happening, but the people defending this material have created the opening.


Agreed. I support free speech but I don’t support the government providing sexually explicit material to children.


"I support free speech but" = "I don't support free speech"



I suggest you educate yourself. I support protected speech as currently defined by the Supreme Court which includes many exceptions including threats, defamation, selling state secrets, and obscenity.



So, obscenity. Are you saying that (for example) a Pulitzer-Prize-winning novel appeals to prurient interest and is patently offensive lacks serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value, and therefore Governor Youngkin should be able to ban it? That's certainly an interesting point of view.


Of course not you halfwit. Youngkin nor any other politician should not be able to ban books. Youngkin is not banning the book, nor is he banning adults providing sexually explicit books to their children. He is banning the use of taxpayer dollars to provide sexually explicit content to children in public schools.

Why are you so invested in the state funds being used to provide sexual content to other people children?


"Providing sexual content to other people's children" is a super weird way to describe having books in school libraries.

If you dislike Gender Queer, here's what you can do: don't read it. Libraries are full of books you haven't read. This can be another one.


And no one is stopping you from reading genderqueer to your children.


I noticed that you failed to explain why you are fighting so hard to have schools provide sexual content to other people’s kids. Why is that?


Why would I read Gender Queer to my children? My children can read it for themselves, if they want to. Or not, if they don't. Why are you afraid of your children having access to the book Gender Queer in their school library?


This sentiment is very frightening and sad. These poor children.

This is about not exposing children to very graphic sex.

I will start asking parents before play dates if they give kids sexually graphic books or endorse them. I need to screen for creepers. I don't want my child near your house.


Any kid in HS with a phone will have access to much MUCH more sexual content than these books. The kids who would take the effort to physically go to the library and check these books out are the kids who need these books. Hearing another LGTBQ experience can be validating.


Why do kids need sex manuals?


Teens might have questions about logistics that are maybe not covered in FLE.


"Logistics?" Why do they need information about "logistics?"


Have you ever had trouble working through your own sexuality or gender?

Have you ever come out?

Have you ever had gay sex?

1) It's helpful to have those things normalized.
2) Some tips might actually be helpful.


Normalizing teens having gay sex, or any kind of sex, is not something that schools should be doing.
If you want your teen to have sex, gay or otherwise, go for it.
Let's have our schools teach English, mathematics, history, science, etc.


Our schools already teach sex ed.

Most teens have sex. Pretending that they don't doesn't help anyone. Family Life/sex ed, and other resources such as high school library books, help kids with that path.

No one is forcing kids to have sex. But if they're having sex they should have resources available to them.

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Anonymous wrote:The problem is that extreme examples are used now to gain support for the bill, but once passed, it allows banning books that aren’t extreme and just represent views Youngkin doesn’t like.


Exactly. That’s the problem with putting books like Gender Queer and This Book is Gay in school libraries. If parents can’t trust their schools to keep this material out of their schools, they will ask their lawmakers to do it. And that creates bad law. It shouldn’t be happening, but the people defending this material have created the opening.


Agreed. I support free speech but I don’t support the government providing sexually explicit material to children.


"I support free speech but" = "I don't support free speech"



I suggest you educate yourself. I support protected speech as currently defined by the Supreme Court which includes many exceptions including threats, defamation, selling state secrets, and obscenity.



So, obscenity. Are you saying that (for example) a Pulitzer-Prize-winning novel appeals to prurient interest and is patently offensive lacks serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value, and therefore Governor Youngkin should be able to ban it? That's certainly an interesting point of view.


Of course not you halfwit. Youngkin nor any other politician should not be able to ban books. Youngkin is not banning the book, nor is he banning adults providing sexually explicit books to their children. He is banning the use of taxpayer dollars to provide sexually explicit content to children in public schools.

Why are you so invested in the state funds being used to provide sexual content to other people children?


"Providing sexual content to other people's children" is a super weird way to describe having books in school libraries.

If you dislike Gender Queer, here's what you can do: don't read it. Libraries are full of books you haven't read. This can be another one.


And no one is stopping you from reading genderqueer to your children.


I noticed that you failed to explain why you are fighting so hard to have schools provide sexual content to other people’s kids. Why is that?


Why would I read Gender Queer to my children? My children can read it for themselves, if they want to. Or not, if they don't. Why are you afraid of your children having access to the book Gender Queer in their school library?


This sentiment is very frightening and sad. These poor children.

This is about not exposing children to very graphic sex.

I will start asking parents before play dates if they give kids sexually graphic books or endorse them. I need to screen for creepers. I don't want my child near your house.


Any kid in HS with a phone will have access to much MUCH more sexual content than these books. The kids who would take the effort to physically go to the library and check these books out are the kids who need these books. Hearing another LGTBQ experience can be validating.


Why do kids need sex manuals?


Teens might have questions about logistics that are maybe not covered in FLE.


No, kids don’t need logistics about how to use butt toys. They also don’t need public school instruction or materials regarding the use of other sex toys or techniques or fetishes. They do need information about STD’s, pregnancy, and how to avoid those.


It's not "public school instruction". These are books available to teens who are interested in a high school library.

You think the books are about butt plugs and fetishes? You should read them before spouting off your ignorance.
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