APS overdose at Wakefield

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This article shows how good kids get wrapped up in this. It may not be the dealer at their school, it may be someone online. They may buy some multiple pills and some are real (or not dangerous) and some are deadly. It's like playing with a half loaded gun.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/11/30/fentanyl-fake-pills-social-media/

"From there, investigators were able to piece together the lethal transaction, which was arranged on Snapchat. The dealer, Virgil Bordner, had sold Zach two, maybe three pills that were supposed to be Percocet. The one that killed him was likely the second one he took."

Are they really "good kids" if they're buying drugs illegally? I feel for those and their families whose mistake led to death because the pill was laced with fentanyl....but we have to keep in mind, the kid CHOSE to buy drugs and CHOSE to take them. No one is shoving these pills down their throat at gunpoint.

You have to stop the kids from wanting to do this. No border measure, SRO in the bathroom, is going to solve the problem.

I think what "good kids" means that can't be explicitly stated is well-off white kids from stable homes.

You put a photo of a smiling white mom, dad, and teen in front of a stranger and a photo of a smiling black mom, dad, and teen in front of them and ask them to pick which kid is a drug user, they will pick the black teen most of the time.

My nephew was addicted to Oxy then Heroin and ODd several times. If you put him in a lineup, no one would pick him as the drug addict. Except he was. He got a sports injury and got addicted to his pain pills. Then when he couldn't get those, he moved on to heroin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This article shows how good kids get wrapped up in this. It may not be the dealer at their school, it may be someone online. They may buy some multiple pills and some are real (or not dangerous) and some are deadly. It's like playing with a half loaded gun.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/11/30/fentanyl-fake-pills-social-media/

"From there, investigators were able to piece together the lethal transaction, which was arranged on Snapchat. The dealer, Virgil Bordner, had sold Zach two, maybe three pills that were supposed to be Percocet. The one that killed him was likely the second one he took."

Are they really "good kids" if they're buying drugs illegally? I feel for those and their families whose mistake led to death because the pill was laced with fentanyl....but we have to keep in mind, the kid CHOSE to buy drugs and CHOSE to take them. No one is shoving these pills down their throat at gunpoint.

You have to stop the kids from wanting to do this. No border measure, SRO in the bathroom, is going to solve the problem.

I think what "good kids" means that can't be explicitly stated is well-off white kids from stable homes.

You put a photo of a smiling white mom, dad, and teen in front of a stranger and a photo of a smiling black mom, dad, and teen in front of them and ask them to pick which kid is a drug user, they will pick the black teen most of the time.

My nephew was addicted to Oxy then Heroin and ODd several times. If you put him in a lineup, no one would pick him as the drug addict. Except he was. He got a sports injury and got addicted to his pain pills. Then when he couldn't get those, he moved on to heroin.

kids in various countries and of various ethnicities and races took pills in HS--the difference is that when Gen X was in HS there were no fentanyl laced pills....you also didnt need straight As for a good college,,,,you didnt need to finish a top 10 percent major to move out of your parents house after college...you didnt have to worry about pics of you without clothes travelling the world wide web......many things were better back then...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This article shows how good kids get wrapped up in this. It may not be the dealer at their school, it may be someone online. They may buy some multiple pills and some are real (or not dangerous) and some are deadly. It's like playing with a half loaded gun.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/11/30/fentanyl-fake-pills-social-media/

"From there, investigators were able to piece together the lethal transaction, which was arranged on Snapchat. The dealer, Virgil Bordner, had sold Zach two, maybe three pills that were supposed to be Percocet. The one that killed him was likely the second one he took."

Are they really "good kids" if they're buying drugs illegally? I feel for those and their families whose mistake led to death because the pill was laced with fentanyl....but we have to keep in mind, the kid CHOSE to buy drugs and CHOSE to take them. No one is shoving these pills down their throat at gunpoint.

You have to stop the kids from wanting to do this. No border measure, SRO in the bathroom, is going to solve the problem.

Teens can be dumb. They don’t have fully developed critical thinking and they are very influenced by peer pressure. Drugs have always been around in high schools but now they are much more lethal. I wouldn’t label kids “good” or “bad”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This article shows how good kids get wrapped up in this. It may not be the dealer at their school, it may be someone online. They may buy some multiple pills and some are real (or not dangerous) and some are deadly. It's like playing with a half loaded gun.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/11/30/fentanyl-fake-pills-social-media/

"From there, investigators were able to piece together the lethal transaction, which was arranged on Snapchat. The dealer, Virgil Bordner, had sold Zach two, maybe three pills that were supposed to be Percocet. The one that killed him was likely the second one he took."

Are they really "good kids" if they're buying drugs illegally? I feel for those and their families whose mistake led to death because the pill was laced with fentanyl....but we have to keep in mind, the kid CHOSE to buy drugs and CHOSE to take them. No one is shoving these pills down their throat at gunpoint.

You have to stop the kids from wanting to do this. No border measure, SRO in the bathroom, is going to solve the problem.

Teens can be dumb. They don’t have fully developed critical thinking and they are very influenced by peer pressure. Drugs have always been around in high schools but now they are much more lethal. I wouldn’t label kids “good” or “bad”.

Exactly. Some kids make bad decisions, but they aren't "bad".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems to be quite a bit of fentanyl laced percocets in our local schools. Wakefield today, Culpeper last week, Justice right before that. And I’m sure others that I just haven’t read about but have happened

Meridian FCCPS has had one as well.

Huh? My kid goes there and I haven't heard anything about this. An overdose at Meridian?

About a year ago. Fatal.

[Anonymous]

The student seems to have passed away. There is a GoFundMe for funeral expenses.

[Anonymous]

So damn horrible!

If you want to support the family:
https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-my-family-raise-money-for-my-cousins-funeral?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems to be quite a bit of fentanyl laced percocets in our local schools. Wakefield today, Culpeper last week, Justice right before that. And I’m sure others that I just haven’t read about but have happened

Meridian FCCPS has had one as well.

Huh? My kid goes there and I haven't heard anything about this. An overdose at Meridian?

About a year ago. Fatal.

NP and this is the first I’m hearing of this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So damn horrible!

If you want to support the family:
https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-my-family-raise-money-for-my-cousins-funeral?

Very sad if he did die.

Doesn’t $15k seem high for a funeral? Would that include medical bills?

[Anonymous]

My mom's was $11k and she already had a plot. So no, not high, especially around here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This article shows how good kids get wrapped up in this. It may not be the dealer at their school, it may be someone online. They may buy some multiple pills and some are real (or not dangerous) and some are deadly. It's like playing with a half loaded gun.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/11/30/fentanyl-fake-pills-social-media/

"From there, investigators were able to piece together the lethal transaction, which was arranged on Snapchat. The dealer, Virgil Bordner, had sold Zach two, maybe three pills that were supposed to be Percocet. The one that killed him was likely the second one he took."

Are they really "good kids" if they're buying drugs illegally? I feel for those and their families whose mistake led to death because the pill was laced with fentanyl....but we have to keep in mind, the kid CHOSE to buy drugs and CHOSE to take them. No one is shoving these pills down their throat at gunpoint.

You have to stop the kids from wanting to do this. No border measure, SRO in the bathroom, is going to solve the problem.

I think what "good kids" means that can't be explicitly stated is well-off white kids from stable homes.

You put a photo of a smiling white mom, dad, and teen in front of a stranger and a photo of a smiling black mom, dad, and teen in front of them and ask them to pick which kid is a drug user, they will pick the black teen most of the time.

My nephew was addicted to Oxy then Heroin and ODd several times. If you put him in a lineup, no one would pick him as the drug addict. Except he was. He got a sports injury and got addicted to his pain pills. Then when he couldn't get those, he moved on to heroin.

I’m white. And I’d pick the white kid every tune.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The student seems to have passed away. There is a GoFundMe for funeral expenses.

Noooooo. I had been holding out hope for a recovery. This is so damn heartbreaking. Please teenagers, wake up to the dangerous of taking pills. Just one can literally cost your life.

[Anonymous]

I was listening to the police monitor that someone posted about the incident today. And at dissmissal there was ANOTHER call for paramedics because of an overdose.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was listening to the police monitor that someone posted about the incident today. And at dissmissal there was ANOTHER call for paramedics because of an overdose.

I did hear there was a medical response at dismissal and ArlNow confirmed, but they didn't say it was an overdose! That was said on the scanner??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The student seems to have passed away. There is a GoFundMe for funeral expenses.

Noooooo. I had been holding out hope for a recovery. This is so damn heartbreaking. Please teenagers, wake up to the dangerous of taking pills. Just one can literally cost your life.

I can't imagine the agony his parents are going through right now.

It's also terrifying to think that just one wrong decision can end a life like that.