Airplane noise concerns overblown?

[Anonymous]

A crop of houses for sale in the Palisades average 60+ days on the market. Some have fallen out of contract recently, some are pending, most sitting. May be instructive to see where this is heading. It’s definitely not falling off any cliff but may be a sign of an adjustment?

[Anonymous]

A house fell out of contract today.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you click on the the DCA Community Complaint Dashboard there’s a nice color-coded map of where people complain the most and why. It’s not exactly nothing to take the time to submit a complaint, so you can imagine people do it because it’s too much. DC noise really goes Palisades through the Wesley Heights, then the areas from there don’t have the noise issue. It also shows other areas planes affect that posters here highlighted in MoCo that you wouldn’t see on the other maps. You can also complain if you experience the plane noise which is very helpful to the community action.

https://www.flyreagan.com/about-airport/aircraft-noise-information/dca-reagan-national-complaint-dashboard

I remember this gas complaint cite. When nextgen rolled out in DCA we started using it since things got ridiculously frequent and noisy and low.
Then they “redid” the app so you couldn’t do many complaints. Fields wouldn’t carry over and there were limits per address or duration. So if you were woken up at 5:30am you could only do that but not once they were every 30 seconds at 8am or at 10pm or 11pm. They disallowed complaints yet mandated the date and time of the loudness.

[Anonymous]

*faa complaint site

[Anonymous]

That’s awful. Thank you so much for sharing — I heard it was a “pain to complain” but never realized to what extent.

[Anonymous]

Which of course implies the airplane concerns are NOT overblown, but under-blown (a word?)

[Anonymous]

Looks like it’s just airplane noise guy in his (her?) many avatars now.

[Anonymous]

I’m one of the people who posted but by no means the only one. 16:48 is not wrong though.

Can you switch up your tactics though? It’s getting old:
(1) Claim all true (and harrowing) accounts are hysterical lies
or neuroses of people suffering from hypersensitivity
(2) Claim (despite the evidence to the contrary) that it’s not that bad
(3) Attack “the one crazy”
(4) Claim “the lone crazy” is doing this because he hates the Palisades, he hates a person in the Palisades, can’t afford a house in the Palisades, got outbid, someone from the Palisades stole his girlfriend, he’s the crazy real estate guy 😳
(5) Go quiet when multiple true accounts keep rolling in
(6) Play dead and hope the thread goes away
(7) Drink too much wine and rinse and repeat

Just stop lying to people. Some are prospective buyers with little children. Let them make informed decisions. People will still buy places (one of the worst ones got plane noise went under contract recently) but they will not be cheated into it.

It’s bad, imo, really bad.

[Anonymous]

We bought a house in glen echo in the last year and have been very happy. Yes there are planes. But nobody cares.

[Anonymous]

It’s possible Glen Echo is better but I could never be so relaxed about the massive pollution I can’t see or the harmful noise levels (these are not disputed, it’s just what you think you hear that may vary).

According to the DOEE, the Palisades and Foxhall are by far the worst. (Georgetown Reservoir is in the middle of these areas and not in fact in Georgetown.)

“The old and new routes cross near the Georgetown Reservoir, where the noise exposure is greater to DC south of this point, and greater to parts of Arlington north of the Reservoir.”

[Anonymous]

There is one low flying plane per minute from/to DCA on average. Fact. That can’t not suck if you’re trying to live under it, and denialism will just delay any proper solutions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Great point (although not even in the same ballpark in frequency (I wish!) or noise and pollution levels). I would never live directly on a bus route or with a bus stop in front. In fact that’s a known price reduction factor.

Why are you always bringing up price? You want to sell your house for less?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look I think the MacArthur poster on the bottom of the page 5 said it all. I would make that post a mandatory contract addendum.

Have you sold your house yet? Do you really live in these neighborhood?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I don’t mean to upset you, but how can something be a non-issue when you need a white noise machine to
do something as essential as sleep every night? That sounds like a very big deal!

Is sleeping with a white noise machine bad? Genuinely asking because I’m curious. I know many people who do this every night (including my kids, to avoid being woken up by ambulance sirens.


What is your point? My son sleeps with a white noise machine every night, and we don't live near any traffic noise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It concerns me when it seems like it’s a necessity to be able to sleep and stay asleep. It’s one thing if I’m thinking ok I’m willing to ignore the health concerns and deal with constant noise and rattling, and I’ll take a risk on resale, but at least I’m getting a great discount on a house price. It’s another thing altogether when there’s no discount and I’m being told I’m crazy on top to think this could be a problem. No thanks.

Then move. Do you even drive/fly? Then you are part of the problem.